Studebaker was the first car I drove around the farm by myself.

Seriously? Is that possible? I thought that only happened on Seinfeld with George in the background of his Boss’s family picture.😂. Where (time) in the video is your Dad’s car?

I still ride the system for fun (I call it taking a long walk with assistance). You have to pick your times. The system also had a reputation for packing them in back in my day (the eighties -- that's when they initially talked about a Downtown Relief Line to deal with the humungous crowds at Bloor-Yonge), and we had our fair share of rowdy drunks and teens in those days (wasn't nice to share a car with them). We tend to forget the distressing stuff in the past, while being confronted with it in the present. I think the fact is, there's been good and bad things about this city for as long as it has been a city.

Same here! Remember in the late 80's when a red train would pull in, I thought: "Oh no, here we go". They were breaking down big time and you never knew what would happen on the ride!

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@#1 DILLIGAF, exactly what freedoms do you think that your grandchildren or any other child has 'lost'?🙄

​@@Neville60001 I think #1 DILLIGAF is referring to the more relaxed feeling of Toronto in that era vis-a-vis today:- it was a gritty industrial city but quite informal without thousands of immigrants pouring in every day without end and causing a huge amount of hectic congestion and giving the place an unpleasant "edginess". This was also before the era of subsidized university education so the city was not over-run with swarms of third-rate university graduates inflicting "wokist" attitudes on everyone and staying busy telling everyone else what not to do. You can still find that old relaxed social milieu in "unfashionable" small cities such as Peterborough, North Bay, Sudbury, Sault Ste Marie, Thunder Bay etc. It was like riding the streetcars in the old days on a summer day with open windows:- the cars were fairly empty at the outer ends of their routes and felt relaxed but going through the center of the city they would often become packed "to the hilt" with a more strained social feeling and not so pleasant:- the best part of going "downtown" in that era was usually coming back but now it's like the whole of Toronto has become one big overcrowded and unpleasant "downtown":- who needs it? 😔

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Because it was the 70s, and although the TTC was committed to retaining its streetcars (abandoning its streetcar abandonment policy in 1972), the Metro Roads department was not. They basically vetoed the decision to keep the streetcars. You can read more about this here: transittoronto.ca/streetcar/4114.shtml

Hi, those old routes did not make economic sense anymore because the city has grown so hugely since they were inaugurated. This is a living working city in a state of constant evolution and it cannot be a big live-in museum where nothing changes:- progress marches on and we must march with it or else we stagnate and die. You might want to keep your old baby clothes in a drawer somewhere but you would look and feel very silly and uncomfortable trying to actually wear them and diapers all your life and cities are the same.

@@evemarie1605, the city still needs lines like these to relieve the pressure on the bus routes and subway lines-in fact, the Mount Pleasant line could've been kept and turned into a light rail line that ran all of the way from St. Clair station to where Mount Pleasant ends in the northeast of the city. Getting rid of this line was short-sighted thinking on the city's and provience's parts.

​@@Neville60001 Hi, tell you what:- let's do a big transit census of Toronto and find out how each household travels about and tabulate the results to see who goes where and how and use that to plan public transit scientifically instead of whimsically. However I was actually in my twenties at that time and the farebox told the tale quite clearly:- ridership on that route was declining while the streetcars and tracks were aging and they could not justify continuing this route as a streetcar route although they did convert it to a trolley coach route. The same issues killed the Rogers route at the same time which was also converted to trolley coaches. The old TTC (pre-1954) used to publish little yearbooks ("Wheels of Progress") which actually described how the original Mt Pleasant route triggered a real-estate boom along Mt Pleasant Rd but over 50+ years the affluent residents converted to private cars and stopped using the public transit. Today, due to the preference of young downtown workers to use public transit, you could actually justify running Mt Pleasant buses down Jarvis into downtown to provide a direct no-transfer ride but this type of logic filters into the TTC "mind" only very, very, very slowly so doing a transit census every 5 to 10 years would be a good idea for transit planning. I see others making similar calls to restore ancient streetcar routes such as Dovercourt-McCaul but that's not going to happen:- we can't live in the past.

​ @transittoronto Ah yes, the era of Sam Cass, Toronto's very own version of Robert Moses, who objected to pedestrians, sidewalks, buses and streetcars, bicycles, and businesses on his so-called "traffic arterials":- he wanted to convert streets like Bloor and Dundas, etc into freeways without regard to the various functions those streets actually performed:- he was also known as "Cass the Ass (h*le) for very good reasons:- good riddance to him and all those of his ilk! 🙁

Do a search on "Kingston Road" in this channel. Richard Glaze had a number of films of Kingston Road streetcars and some Kingston Road buses from the late 1960s and 1970s.

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