WTTC: Zhang Jike-Wang Liqin

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World Table Tennis Championships,08 May 2011 - 15 May 2011, Rotterdam, NED. Men's Singles Quarterfinal.

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@maultasche668 7 жыл бұрын

Today with the plastic balls matches like this aren't possible anymore. The ralleys were so beautiful and now... serve, flip, point ralley finished. Sad.

@MCee97 5 жыл бұрын

This don’t make sense, with the new ball the game is slower making more rallies...

@andyzhaott 5 жыл бұрын

Miles Chan It bounces higher, so it’s easier to flip kill.

@pedrovoss862 Жыл бұрын

Players have adapted to it, the long rallies have not been uncommon

@cenktekin7175 Жыл бұрын

agree, long forehand to forehand rallies less today

@reinaldopessoa2603 11 ай бұрын

That's because the style of play has changed they play closer to the table and force backhand rallies. Back then it was automatic that you step back after first stroke.

@riley1160 10 жыл бұрын

Zhang may have been a bit cocky before. But now he is much more calm and less arrogant. Most young players when they win their big opens express their feelings majorly and Zhang was no exception. Zhang isn't what his reputation seems like in this video. Despite the fact that he played exceptionally well

@Detherocable 9 жыл бұрын

Zhnag Jike's serve demolished Wang Liqin!!

@fernandoxislas 7 жыл бұрын

Du bist richtig... WL konnte nicht mehr angreifen... Schade.

@zerotalent191 4 жыл бұрын

@@fernandoxislas Nix schade

@lazydog5065 2 жыл бұрын

Man I wish today's top players showed at least a fraction of the emotion that Zhang Jike showed back then. Harimoto celebrates a lot of his points but he kinda overdoes it a bit and I think he does it more for the mental game.

@user-wg8ys7dk6f Жыл бұрын

この頃の声出してるzhang jike好き笑

@TheVampB 4 жыл бұрын

It boggles mind to think what even more of a legend Wang would have been if his backhand were just a little bit more "modern"

@charliebaines5365 4 жыл бұрын

TheVampB Yeah it’s a shame. He has a godly forehand though!

@TheVampB 4 жыл бұрын

@@charliebaines5365 Godly is the word!

@charliebaines5365 4 жыл бұрын

TheVampB Have you seen the fade forehand he did against timo ball where it swerved like crazy

@TheVampB 4 жыл бұрын

@@charliebaines5365 The one that spinned outwards? That shot is part of the table tennis history now.

@charliebaines5365 4 жыл бұрын

TheVampB Yh that’s the one! It was insane!

@gdounito 8 жыл бұрын

at the 4th set and after zjk literally crushed wang liqin . the reverse serve and fast bh topspins were a huge pain for wang

@fortitude1208 4 ай бұрын

Yep… but thats about age and condition.. first 3 sets all are equal, or Wang Liqin dominating.. but after you can see he just make errors.. if WLQ was in his prime he would literary sweep ZJK

@Kevin-zl3ci 5 жыл бұрын

Jike in this tournament best the last 2 world champions in his first wttc, something which haven't been done before, while I do think Ma Long is greater, he didn't take his opportunities the first time, which is what I really think made Jike so likeable

@benthekeeshond545 5 жыл бұрын

Kevin, Poor Ma Long being young and ran into his nemesis. If not, the Great Ma Long may have won 5 or 6 WTTC Singles. Ma Long usually came out on top against Zhang Jike.

@Kevin-zl3ci 4 жыл бұрын

@@benthekeeshond545 yes that is very true, but it's the same with Wang Hao, had he gotten his finals he would have been a triple grand slam, we can't say what if I ly what happened

@pham1020 3 жыл бұрын

@@benthekeeshond545 Both are great players and Ma Long regards ZJK as his sporting idol. ZJK was mentally strong for big stage and was undefeated at major stage from his first WTTC until his lost to Fang Bo in 2015 WTTC. That is incredible for a player who was only going through the maturation stage of his game. Ma Long on the other hand needed more time to mentally mature. And would ML win the WTTC back then if he didn't play Wang Hao? I'm not so sure. Even when he didn't play Wang Hao in 2014 World Cup, he still lost to ZJK. I don't think ML would beat ZJK at world stage back then if he doesn't have the confident he has now.

@user-zv5yo9vt5t 6 жыл бұрын

missing 2011 jhang ji ke

@TigerAlert 10 жыл бұрын

Wang liqin loose like 6 points with zhang jike serve

@gdounito 10 жыл бұрын

dont hate the player hate the game zjk clearly played better than wlq in this game and deserved to win. everything else is plain theory

@yts8719 4 жыл бұрын

Sad to see ZJK not playing anymore.

@agbajesamad9675 3 жыл бұрын

Has he finally quit? Or he has not recovered from his injury?

@km-lr7wj Жыл бұрын

@@agbajesamad9675 Nah he's done, his back got really bad.

@musicforlifeofficial709 8 жыл бұрын

Wangliquin has troupe with ZJk serve

@andresrossi9 4 жыл бұрын

Prime wang liqin would have won this one. Still very hard, but would have

@pham1020 4 жыл бұрын

"may have" not "would have" lol. ZJK is still a more complete player even when you compare him to prime Wang Liqin.

@cenktekin7175 Жыл бұрын

@@pham1020 ZJK is more complete but WLQ was true killer in prime and i think he could win in this game ZJK 10 years younger and he born to this era (speed glue ban era), in the contrary WLQ was trying to adjust his play to this era after 30 when plastic balls appeared and ZJK could not adjust game and retired (maybe he was lazy to adjust)

@kenji2787 4 ай бұрын

Nah. Looks like a bad match up for Wang. He’s got no backhand playing against someone who is too consistent on backhand, without the weakness in his forehand. I bet ZJK would’ve gotten more wins regardless of era.

@kenji2787 4 ай бұрын

@CrAzzyWak 8 жыл бұрын

5:17 lol

@ttCrawsaive 5 жыл бұрын

Crazy Match !

@dfn58 9 жыл бұрын

why did zhang show us his shoes?

@Kevin-zl3ci 6 жыл бұрын

dfn58 not sure but i think it was sponser

@jacksontan1360 5 жыл бұрын

Got his name on it

@user-cr2gi8hv7x 2 жыл бұрын

жан жике лучший теннисист в истории

@olaniyi570 10 жыл бұрын

Not a big Chinese player fan period, but I prefer Wang's generation of players any day. During some points of the match It almost looked to me like Wang deliberately threw the match.

@pawoon 9 жыл бұрын

Why not a big Chinese player fan? They're not white?

@olaniyi570 9 жыл бұрын

My comments have nothing to do with race or national only style of play and attitude of some players. I have nothing against chinese people as people.

@mindrover777 Жыл бұрын

Could be that some politics is involved

@dickn.ormous1064 10 ай бұрын

I think you haven't watched WLQ enough.A reverse serve to his forehand and a good bh would do the trick against WLQ, that's how Schlager beat him.

@fortitude1208 9 күн бұрын

He was just past his prime and he cant competw in 4 sets.. he player first 2-3 good and later have even a serve miss.. he was old

@firdauscoke2759 Жыл бұрын

Qobiltu...aamiin

@Galimah 4 жыл бұрын

i am not gonna spoil the winner but the guy in black t-shirt won the whole tourament

@qilin6634 4 жыл бұрын

8:12

@josephgarrett3075 8 жыл бұрын

If only this was in 2000-2009, Liqin would've annihilated Jike.

@gdounito 8 жыл бұрын

+Joseph Garrett you cant tell for sure. they are players with different techniques. ma long xu xin wang hao zhang jike and other chinese youngsters have much more complete technique than wang liqin. wang almost never topspin with BH but has very steady block and spinny flick. he also dont have bh banana receive like the new players but his FH is very good. so its hard to say if he would beat any of them convincignly. after all zhang jike is the only player in history to win a world champ in his first participation

@benthekeeshond545 5 жыл бұрын

@@CL-sc8ou Kong Linghui played like a sissy. Maybe a little better than the all-time sissy, Teng Yi. Have you seen Jiang Jia Liang or Guo Yue Hua? From the female side, Cao Yan Hua. They played the genuine TT, not the modified 40mm ball game.

@pham1020 3 жыл бұрын

Guess what? ZJK beat Wang Liqin in 2009 national league when he was only 19 yrs old. Take that, 19 yrs old ZJK beat prime Wang Liqin. No excuses lol

@pedrovoss7852 Жыл бұрын

No, Zhang Jike serve and backhand were the reasons he won

@dickn.ormous1064 Жыл бұрын

@@pedrovoss7852 Same reason why Schlager beat him in 2003.

@ryanchiang9587 2 жыл бұрын

abc超級大帥哥

@orionilian 3 жыл бұрын

Wang's forehand is incredible

@niming5983 4 жыл бұрын

王励勤可惜了。

@zulhamharahap8480 4 жыл бұрын

King off service ..king off backhand..zhang jike

@Koshiman 4 жыл бұрын

Zulham Harahap off your mouth

@deniz6365_ Жыл бұрын

07:50

@LeaLMartin 6 жыл бұрын

Ahí está Ariel Cocheri fiestero xD.

@yx6441 4 жыл бұрын

玫瑰五么...大力正手出界都是那么一点点，绝对是换板子的原因

@deniz6365_ Жыл бұрын

04:10

@olaniyi570 8 жыл бұрын

Wang is thinking Jike is a real Wang.

@Koshiman 4 жыл бұрын

. Stupid users who does not know English

@zzagzzang383 Жыл бұрын

03:11 05:51

@niming5983 6 жыл бұрын

前面王励勤如果3:1赢下，

@fortitude1208 7 ай бұрын

Prime Wang Liqin would literary destroy Zhang Jike

@cenktekin7175 Жыл бұрын

from 2001 to 2011, either wang liqin won or those who beat him won

@allen8698 4 жыл бұрын

王励勤反手加不了力，反手被压制了。

@citylidamj8898 4 жыл бұрын

Allen 技術不夠先進

@chrisnitsche42 4 жыл бұрын

i hate this german comment xD

@admin9707 9 жыл бұрын

i hate Zheng since this match not becauce of his shouting , everybody just did the same but his attitude

@ferrox_liberia6735 9 жыл бұрын

why you hate zhang ?

@olaniyi570 8 жыл бұрын

I agree. I've never liked him.

@lockwyn 6 жыл бұрын

Jike is no gentleman at the table, he is boring to watch.

@bisujin1685 5 жыл бұрын

that is why I really enjoy the moments when Ma Long destroyed him😂

@Kevin-zl3ci 4 жыл бұрын

I mean jike is a gentleman, when FZD fell during a rally they played he went over to make sure he was alright, never seen another player do that

@TheRafaelBond 5 жыл бұрын

This match was so bad... WLQ was in one of his worst ever matches

@mindrover777 Жыл бұрын

Way past his prime.

@watsonzou3059 10 жыл бұрын

still think Wang liqin is better than Zhang jike if they are same age player. Wang's forehand is No.1 in the world, he has a nickname of "Da li" in Chinese TT Team. BTW, Zhang jike's backhand is worse than younger player Fan zhengdong....

@watsonzou3059 10 жыл бұрын

***** No，even Chinese TT team coaches think Wang\s forehand is no.1 in the world. MALONG is also great but ...

@KYchiu402 10 жыл бұрын

Zhang is the big slam winner and he is famous with his crazy spin in backhand bro

@PingGSY 10 жыл бұрын

Zhang Jike is the fastest player of all time to win the grand Slam. I think thats pretty impressive. Wang Liquin won 3 World championship titles, Zhang already has two. You cannot say one player is better than the other if they were "the same age" because they have different playstyles. All you can say is that Zhang is superior to Wang Liquin at the time of the match, although Wang has now retired. He had a great career.

@watsonzou3059 9 жыл бұрын

PingGSY fair enough......

@PingGSY 9 жыл бұрын

***** Indeed he is, but that does not make him the "better player". Ma Long didn't play in the Olympics because he was injured, not because he wasn't good enough. The point is, it takes a lot of courage and mental strength to win a world championships (the biggest event of all). Ma Long hasn't managed to do this as of yet, let alone a grand slam. He has the technical ability, but for him to even have a chance of winning such events he must get over his fear of playing Chinese players in the WTTC, Wang Hao being his biggest rival.

@deniz6365_ Жыл бұрын

05:33

@deniz6365_ Жыл бұрын

06:19