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Man just had one of those ‘what if I just drove off this cliff’ moments, but actually did it

"His blood alcohol level was above normal" Not above zero, mind you, just above normal. This is Britain in the 70's mind you. Zero would be dangerously below normal.

That's insane. Just imagine the entire fate of your life being changed, simply from picking which train you decide to step into that day. Gives me the creeps.

I can’t imagine how Hacksaw man felt after the rescue. Having those hands just shoot out at you. Like something out of a horror movie. Bet he had nightmares for weeks.

Imagine giving up your leg and your police career to save someone only for them to die anyway, poor woman.

Sounds like sleep deprivation to me. I see people being on autopilot all the time when they shouldn't be. Perhaps even an absent seizure, when you zone out uncontrollably.

note to self: always use the second to rearmost carriages on a train

the fact he did it previously is a big sign that he had some sort of condition that went unnoticed until the very last seconds of his life. Truly sad

He probably had a stroke, maybe a microsleep. I've had two micro sleeps while driving my bike, scary shit, if you feel tired, go for the side of the road and try to catch a breath. If feeling dizzy, it's better to call a friend that can come and pick you up.

Back of the train is for cool people anyways, y'all can fight over the front.

Imagine, 49 degrees celcius and all you see is blood, body parts and inner organs. Just red all over. All you hear is screams and people desperate for help. The rescuers are true heros in my eyes

My mothers boyfriend at the time was killed in the moorgate disaster. Strange to think neither me or my sister would probably exist if it never happened. Its effected my mother for life, shes always had issues with having to know where we are at all times and gets anxious whenever she doesnt hear from us for a while. I really hope it wasnt a suicide from the conductor, taking that many people with you would be a truly evil act no matter whats going on in your life at the time. RIP Kenneth its a shame what happened to you, but thank you for making my mother happy while you were here

Imagine the nightmares the rescueman would have of hands grabbing at him whenever he slept.

It’s weird how one vid he had me laughing and the next he has me sitting just like what the fuck.

He may have had a complex seizure. You can work autonomically during a complex seizure but not respond to stimuli. So for instance. You could apply consistent pressure to a gas peddle in a car while continuing to hold the steering wheel in place. However, if you need to turn to avoid an accident or stop at a traffic light, you wouldn't be able to do it because you are not fully there.

6:57 honestly, this terrifies me even more. what if there were still survivors who simply couldn’t make noise. they knew there was nothing they could do, and were left for dead.

Lesley Newson was a cousin of my grandfather. This story has always been known in my family, but I had no idea this was the incident in question, or that the crash was this severe. We didnt talk much about the details. My blood ran cold when I saw my name pop up. May we keep the victims forever in our memory.

My grandfather attended the crash (he was a policeman at the time). He said that some of the victims were little more than pools of blood. The carriages had concertinad so much that it’d crushed them into nothing. Horrible.

Something particularly horrific about this incident. That poor fireman who had hands grasping at him in pitch blackness must have been fucked up by that.

Thank you...there's about 5 KZfaqrs who are respectful and informative when discussing dark events. The rest do makeup and giggle while describing the horror families and loved ones of the victims have gone through. It's very appreciated.

Imagine being trapped in the wreckage unable to call for help. You listen for hours on end as crews rescue person after person, but not you. You hold onto the hope that they'll get to you eventually. Until you hear them making last calls for surviviors...

Heard that the driver was a D-day survivor and, like many soldiers of the period, could well have been suffering from untreated PTSD.

Another thing, that speaks against suicide, is, that the train, as all of the trains, had a guard in the back, where his place was next to the emergency brake. He would definitely notice the train not slowing down, and he was then supposed to pull the emergency brake. Had the guard that day done so, as was his job, the train wouldve stopped in time, and the crash would not have happened. However, the guard on duty had gotten bored, left his post, gone into the rear car, found himself a newspaper and sat down in the passenger car to read it. Yes, seriously. Completely against regulations. Had he been at his post, the crash would not have happened. Yet somehow, no blame was ever attached to him. But the point being, that Newson would have no way of knowing, that the guard wasnt at his post by the emergency brake. Hence, Newson would have every expectation, that if he tried to purposely run the train into the wall, he would fail, coz the guard would pull the emergency brake. Thats what really pisses me off with all the ppl going on about him as some mass murderer doing this on purpose. If he tried, it would never have worked, unless the guard wasnt, where he was supposed to be, and again, Newson had no way of knowing, the guard had left his station. That pretty much invalidates the suicide theory to me, even b4 all the other things that speak against it. Im with all the ppl believing in the absence seizure. All the fact points far more to that than to suicide.

My father attended this incident. Blue watch Whitechapel fire station. He only ever spoke of it once. I had a bad car accident in my teens, and when my parents visited me in hospital not knowing if I was OK, my father saw me and told me that until that moment he'd relived some of his worst memories. Of incidents he'd attended and seen what can happen to people he saw it all again wondering if I was OK, then told me quite sternly never to worry him again. A true hero in my opinion and a great selfless man.

I was on a tube train with my wife a few days after this incident, An elderly lady opposite ,was wearing a full visor crash helmet. It would have been outrageously funny under different circumstances. But it served to underline the tragic aftermath of this terrible event.

I wrecked my first car because of this “microsleep” or dosing off. I was driving home late at night, and was getting sleepy. I decided I would pull over, park, and nap it off. The section of road I was driving on when I made my decision was a no parking area, so I watched out for any parked cars, because then that would mean there is parking now. I saw one, got in line behind it, and began to slow down, expecting to come to a stop right behind it, turn off the car, boom, nap and sleep. As I was slowing down I guess I just got too focused on finally being able to sleep, I just plowed right into the parked car, still doing like 30 mph, and I just remember coming to in a smokey wreck, pissed off cause I immediately knew what happened

As somebody who discovered a suicide I can tell you first hand that experiencing anything like that will change you psychologically. That part about the hands grabbing the guy is nightmare fuel.

Stories like these remind me how malleable we are and how much of a miracle it is that we're here for the time we are

3:30 Imagine being stuck in the third carriage post-crash and seeing that poster for life insurance mocking you

"The driver's cabin has been crushed to 6 inches" My phone's screen is about half an inch longer. Dang, that's compact as hell.

You know that video's gonna be a good one when you have to click the viewer discretion 3 times

"To a sweltering 49 degrees celsius" I live in Arizona, where it frequently reaches around that temperature range in the summer. So I can speak from experience in saying those kind of temperature conditions are downright hellish.

I give the driver the benefit of the doubt and believe he likely had a medical emergency. I've been working in fire/EMS 30 years and have more than once seen patients seize up in a way that would not have triggered a trains's dead man switch.

You know, I didn't find this particularly horrifying until you got to the part where the hands were reaching out of the carriage to grab the rescue worker. Just imagining that is terrifying, living it for both groups of people must have been even worse

Respect to the rescuers, what a terrible experience, and to carry on is amazing.

This was the first video I watched from this channel, and it lead me to believe that this channel was all darkness combined with crude humor - and I wasn't completely wrong, but there's a lot more to this channel that I've come to love. A video type for any mood you're in, between tales from the bottle and last moments.

The fact anyone can basically just stop functioning for so many different reasons at any point is terrifying. Lots of comments speculating that it could have been a stroke, a heart attack, micro sleep, sleep deprivation or a seizure and any of them could be right and could happen to someone while driving.

very sad, but from the description, the operator may have suffered a minor stroke weeks earlier, and the symptoms would have remained relatively difficult to diagnose, save for the over-run stops prior, and would have required a trained assessor to detect them

Love the narration. Perfect tone and demeanour for a serious documentary. Sometimes , narrators make it all about themselves but I liked the way this guy did it.

That story about the guy being grabbed by the hands of survivors in pitch darkness is the stuff of nightmares. Rescue workers all deserve more pay and benefits

It must have been appalling, as a rescuer, to encounter so many bodies entwined, some living, some dead, wondering how in the hell to start. I don't believe for a minute this was any kind of suicide attempt by the conductor. I do believe he suffered an unexpected medical crisis. I really enjoy your channel content and presentations. You could read a phone book and I'd listen! Glad to be here.

imagine being unable to talk when they called out for survivors

This reminds me of one (thankfully not a deadly incident) I've witnessed. On my way to a home bus (with a driving school sticker) crashed into a school fence that's next to a pretty busy sidewalk. The reason why this happened was that the driver had undiagnosed epilepsy and even though nobody was hurt apart from few bruises on the driver and instructor it was still pretty scary.

A guy I used to work with was with the London Fire Brigade and attended the Moorgate disaster - it traumatised him so badly it pretty much ended his career as a fire fighter 😔

As a Navy trained salvage diver in Vietnam, I can say that recovering bodies in zero visibility is a gut tightening experience. Being 80 to 90 feet underwater, if your regulator broke, you too were doomed with the dead. We picked 11 G.I.s out of one Huey. Thankfully all, somehow, were still inside. We didn't have to go groping for them in the immense blackness. I think about it nearly everyday, 50 years later. God bless these rescuers!

These rescuers don’t get enough credit. What incredible people

100% convinced he had an absence seizure. Would also explain the earlier misses in stops and he wouldn't know it happened. Absence seizures can go undetected for a long time.

Thank you for sharing this story.

My guess is an absence seizure. That was probably the cause of his previous platform overrun as well, except that time he snapped out of it more quickly. People who suffer them normally have no memory of it happening, so he might not even have been aware he'd started experiencing them. It's actually a type of epilepsy, except one in which you basically stop what you're doing and remain motionless (except for twitching and other small movements) rather than going into convulsions.

"The 3ft driver's cab has been crushed to 6 inches." Damn, dude turned into a pancake.

This is a good educational channel im glad I came across this. Keep up the good work man

Thanks dude for the straight up, to the point and detailed reporting! Your good at it. You tell the story as one like this should with respectful reverence in the retailing. So, many other "YT'rs try to do this but most of them tell the stories like paparazzo tabloids by making them funny or adding extra bit's to 'shock' you,(which usually has the opposite affect? Thanks and keep up the good work! I just subscribed! :)

Suicide can't be entirely dismissed, I guess, but the fact that driver was literally carrying the cash to go buy a car after work tends to push that idea aside. So, micro sleep or a zone out are kinda a dead heat for cause. As a driver and m/cycle rider I've experienced both even at motorway speeds. To suddenly snap awake on a bike doing 80+ is a truly fucking terrifying thing. Driving a tube train up and down through the sameness of an underground tunnel is one of the most monotonous things I can imagine. Tube drivers earn every penny they make and then some. I couldn't and wouldn't ever do it.

It’s hard to think of two words more horrific than “crush” and “telescope” when it comes to transportation accidents.

How terrifying! RIP to those lost in the tragedy.

Excellent video Thankyou

Very possible he had a coronary. A lot of people experience moments of dozing off doing simple things like hygiene, having conversation, or driving/operating vehicles days or even weeks prior to their MI.

Now imagine their last moments and what they were thinking

I can tell you if you’re suicidal not many people will notice this. I was suicidal for a time and nobody knew it except for me. It was a horrible time but you go on like everything is fine, you smile at others so they don’t see your pain. You always play the happy person so nobody notice it. Don’t expect a suicidal person to tell you what they thing. And if you’re suicidal it still takes time for you to really make that decision. It’s not like somebody gets suicidal thoughts and kills himself the next day it can take months even years. The only thing that kept me from suicide was the fact that I was scared to die in pain and the fact I would leave all the loved ones behind, I just imagined my parents and grandfather and friends standing at my funeral. Someone knocking on the door at home, my mom opens it and the men tells her that her son committed suicide. I just didn’t want to do this to my family and friends. They supported me all my live, all 16years of my life every years 365days, 24hours a day. At one time I was just doing my average day life, I ride my bike home from school and then I see a truck on the road and I randomly had that thought that this could be my death, I could have decided to kill me in that second. Another time I was standing in the kitchens making dinner with my parents, I was cutting onions and then another thought. I just saw that sharp knife and thought that I could kill myself right now, I could just cut open my throat or cut open blood vessels and bleed out on the spot, I could step myself in the chest any time and finally follow my thoughts. But just seeing my parents standing beside me stopped me and I started crying. My parents asked if everything was okay, I blamed it on the onions that I cried. Or at school when you’re at school and teachers start complaining about your lack in performance and just complain about any thing and you start playing with your scissors and you again have the same thought that you could kill yourself now and end all of this forever. And when a friend ask you if you’re okay you put that fake smile on and says „Of course I am okay, why wouldn’t I?“ And you just act like you’re find and enjoying life. You’ll most likely never notice a suicidal person until they die.

Qxir is underrated , love your stories and every video you make keep up the good work sir 🔥👍🏻

I once drove 30 miles through the Everglades with no memory of it. Probably the result of extreme sleep deprivation. Scary shit indeed.

I once had a microsleep incident while crossing a road in the middle of downtown. I was nearly run over by one car as another honked their horn and brought me back to reality. As enticing as conspiracy and malice is to entertain in incidents like this, it's just most likely to have been a medical emergency or even a minor medical incident. Minor incidents in the wrong place or time turn into major disasters.

I appreciate that you included so many photos from the time. Helps with context and the scale of it all.

How did I just now found you🥺💕💕💕💕 great channel

If witnesses say the driver was just staring straight as he passed, he may have zoned out or blacked out.

I've heard a theory that the approach to most of the stations on the line looked the same, but most of them being through stations. He would've only seen the run off tunnel at Moorgate, rather than a wall or barrier. Maybe through his tiredness he got confused and thought he was passing a through station. Strange incident, will never be solved. His poor wife regularly visited the platform at Moorgate for decades after

Thank you.🙏💔🕊️

I love your presentations dude.

It honestly surprises me that your channel is as “small” as it is. All of your videos are rather engaging and even your videos from years ago are more than watchable now. Keep it up and i’m certain your channel will be huge!

The bravery and dedication of those rescuers is simply breathtaking.

horrible. . . may God give comfort to these lost souls, as well as their loved ones. . .

imagine that somewhere out there, this man knows what happened exactly. RIP to him and everyone who lost their lives, sad for the injured and had to live through the trauma all their lives, plus the rescuers.

This story seems to have the same flavor that "Sucked out of a hole " one

Rescuers subjected to trauma become trauma survivors as well. A person witnessing someone being shot can become traumatized, even though they themselves were not shot. As for the survivors of the forward compartments, they will be forever emotionally altered. I was in a auto accident that flipped 5 times as a teenager. Still haunts me today, 50 yrs later.

Just at the beginning, the soundtrack plus the unsettling dialog of Qxir explaining how everything started, made this even more stomach turning, it surely was a horrific experience for those surviving, as for the ones that didn't, we can only hope they rest in peace now, I can't imagine the suffering of those who died once rescued.

I had to confirm to watch this video, and I still got an ad!

It's amazing what just 40mph can do, with enough inertia behind it.

The type of epilepsy I have would have the results as this train driver. It's also very hard to diagnose because during seizures, you continue to look as though you are functioning, even walking around and interacting with the environment, so the condition goes unnoticed for lifetimes... Unless you have a crash or something, or you know it runs in the family.

you have a good voice and presentation, so much better than the 'bots' other youtubers use.

This one makes my heart ache each time I hear about it

That guy who had the lights go out on him , went to the platform to recompose himself them went back in there , that is real dedication

You can't honestly say if someone is suicidal or not. Some people who commit suicide show absolutely NO signs of depression or wanting to end their lives.

My father worked on the train stop equipment for this. I remember him telling me the story of this tragedy when I was older.

God bless them all. Victims and rescuers

It’s really no fun picking through wreckage for “parts”.

Imagine if you were waiting at the station for a visiting loved one. You go from impatience to excitement at hearing the train arrive to confusion when it passes by. And finally horror and despair as the reality sinks in. All within a minute.

Ahhhh qxir.... A channel that never disappoints.

This is easily the scariest video you have ever published, I don't know what about this just terrifies me. But I'm freaked the f out.

I would put good money on a stroke or seizure. Part of the reason I say that, is grasping an object during a stroke/seizure is not uncommon, and would potentially explain how he held on to his controls and dead mans switch.

It’s actually scary seeing how he could have blacked out or had a stroke and he never really snapped back

I love your stories

Rest in peace everyone that sadly passed may you rest

The most concerning part is that there was no contigency to stop this, surely some kind of track instigated braking before the end of the line would be in order?

Imagine losing your leg and then the dude dies anyways. Could have cut him instead. But, hindsight is 20/20.

Imagine the horror that the reascuers had to experience. Cutting through twisted metal and limbs trying to reach the mangled bodies. They were constantly hearing the moaning of the dying and the smell of the dead bodies and the high temperature inside the tunnel made it even worse. What a nightmare.

the driver just bought his one ticket to hell. Took as many lives as he could with him

It’s so scary to think that since they checked if people were alive by calling out to them. If someone was unconscious or in a coma they would have left them to die.

I think he just started to completely disassociate. He probably just thought he was going to the next platform then the next then the next but he wasn’t. It happens, sometimes you might zone out and spill drink but this is worse.

i have never gone from a calm state to one of terror faster then when he first said the words "recovery efforts"