Tube Microphone Shootout: U67 vs sE RNT vs Mojave MA-1000 vs Lauten Eden

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Tube Microphone Shootout: U67 vs sE RNT vs Mojave MA-1000 vs Lauten Eden

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@jaynprods2 Жыл бұрын

FeMale voice : 1.leten 4:59 2.mojave 5:39 3. Se elec 6:19 4.U67 7:00 Male voice : 1.leten 7:42 2. Mojave 8:15 3. Se elec 8:49 4. U67 9:24

@dusty_wakeman 5 жыл бұрын

Jim - loved the shootout - thanks for including the MA-1000. FYI - for comparison to a U67, our MA-300 would be a closer fit. The MA-1000 is David Royer's take on a 251.

@Yossiamos 4 жыл бұрын

i think ma-300 could have been from this family mics too....

@RobLevel 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, thank you.

@timuryesa 2 жыл бұрын

I need a new vocal mic and now I’m standing between u87 and ma 1000. would u recommend me the ma 1000 for rnb and pop vocals or would u say the Neumann u87 is a safer Choice ?? It’s such a hard decision for me. Don’t wanna make a mistake with so much money…

@daverichardson8557 Жыл бұрын

@@timuryesa i have the ma 1000 u won’t regret it. I use it for R&B singers an rappers.

@HarvinderSingh-yy8th Жыл бұрын

Taken.

@JMAudioEditions 2 жыл бұрын

major 60hz hum in your intro recording - probably due to RCA and XLR's being used - I have no idea vut im sure you realized that - but thank you for such awesome mic recordings ! pristine!

@dannymurillo9667 Жыл бұрын

I thought the Neumann u67 had the smoothest and richest sound. It also felt the most in your face IMO. I own the MA 1000 and it’s an awesome mic.

@berdeauxlaveau6515 15 сағат бұрын

the u67 sounds amazing but i think the eden sounds like it will just cut through any mix i loved it

@Leo_Vulkan Жыл бұрын

MA1000 is my favorite, very upfront and natural sounding without any flaws or unnecessary hyped frequencies.

@aholder4471 2 жыл бұрын

I personally like whatever magic stardust Mojave is sprinkling in their microphones, but I will say, all of these mics are excellent but also pretty high end. Subtle differences down to taste and preferences. Tbh I hadn't even heard the RNT before and I quite liked it, but I just looked and it definitely has the price tag to go with it. I have used other less expensive SE mics and really loved them. But the same could be said for the Mojave. All of these mics here are getting into the more expensive category. They all have that in common. Also all of these manufacturers offer less expensive mics, and most even offer less expensive tube mics. I feel like this price range is getting into that expensive final 10% better territory but not Into the collector mythical expensive category. Once you get over a center threshold the price goes up more than the increase in the quality of the sound, to me at least. Great demo though. I could have dealt with hearing both processed and raw tracks as well.

@NikolausBrocke 3 жыл бұрын

For me this is obvious: the Mojave sounds the warmest and a little more compressed (not a valuation, just an observation). The SE RNT carves out the most details. Impressive. Keep in mind. You can adapt tonal adjustments e.g. for lows and highs easyly in the digital domain with an linear phase eq plugin without changing the character.

@skylisszthecolossus 4 жыл бұрын

Id go with the Eden because of the 3-in-1, price range, and it soothes the slight raspy tones.

@neal_laugman 5 жыл бұрын

I agree with your take. The U67 seemed to be more even throughout the range of both your performances. The Lauten definitely had an edge and the Neve was very clear. I thought your voice sounded better through the MA-1000, and the lady's (name?) through the Lauten or the Neve. With a voice like hers, my appreciation meter goes up with the crystal-like highs hence my choice of the 1)Lauten and 2) the SE RNT - but these are my subjective preferences. Also, I would like to compliment you on the fine quality of your video sir, and thank you..

@brianb4285 5 жыл бұрын

SE and MA 1000 was best on male vox. SE was best on female vox. The Lauten was to forward in the mids, especially on the female vox.

@purewaveaudio 5 жыл бұрын

Thank Neal!

@HarvinderSingh-yy8th Жыл бұрын

Buy all mics. Don't get cinfused.

@neal_laugman Жыл бұрын

@@HarvinderSingh-yy8th 😆

@drakewatkins2624 4 жыл бұрын

Wanna say that 386 was the best followed by the u67 more dark rather then bright also gives it that round low end vibe witch gives it a smooth tone

@ronedwards8239 4 жыл бұрын

Liked the air on the MA1000. Nothing is hyped in the mids. It may actually work better for more vocalists than the grainy knockoffs. I own a MA200 and it’s great for a baritone and airy vocals. It stacks vocals incredibly well.

@HarvinderSingh-yy8th Жыл бұрын

Mojave mics are great.

@officialWWM 10 ай бұрын

The best mic to use is the one you have! All of these mics are great.

@alexmarianoribeiro 4 жыл бұрын

Hard to choose but sE RNT. Its after mixing should offer the best result, Thanks Jim

@garyharrison8891 4 жыл бұрын

Alex Ribeiro I thought so too. It has a nice balance and detail. I think it would sound great through a 1073, Burl preamp that was being pushed a bit.

@BrianSladek 4 жыл бұрын

All of these are good TBH and would work great. I liked the RNT by SE because of the great clarity. I could see rolling off a bit off the high end or boosting the mids if needed.

@user-km9xm1qg8k 3 жыл бұрын

Eden sounds the cleanest and clearest.

@RobLevel 3 жыл бұрын

I agree.

@ndavies8 2 жыл бұрын

@@RobLevel it's a boss mic

@mr_zayjuan9369 28 күн бұрын

@@RobLevelfound you 😂

@billesposito2112 Жыл бұрын

I think it comes down to the persons voice . For me the MA-1000 works best . By far the softest . I have a hi voice that tends to sound harsh with most condensers before tweaking it in post. So the softer the better. But with the MA-1000. Magic! With just the bass roll off and I'm done . No bullshit. And I don't think many male singers would use it without the bass roll off. And not in context you really can't make an accurate decision . They're all incredible mics. Thanks , I enjoyed it.

@XolaniNaku 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this comparison. I've been waiting for it.

@purewaveaudio 4 жыл бұрын

Your welcome.

@belluccistudioz-lite2578 4 жыл бұрын

I liked the female sound of the female vocal on the 386 and the male vocal on both the RNT and the u67 but the u67 had just a slight edge over the RNT. Thanks for this shoot out.

@av3nger3 Жыл бұрын

The MA-1000 objectively captures the most detail at the transient level. It's not as musical as an Eden, but it is the most detailed of all these. Listen to the lip/mouth sounds of the singer. You can hear the air and the grinding of the lips like stroking a blown up balloon.

@Yossiamos 4 жыл бұрын

u67 is best mic on male vocal for mee... mojavi super clean sound i like the smooth and the ultra dynamic but i think less musical overall... i think u67 most balance on frequency response and stable dynamic like compression but free, also nice harmonics color ,very sweet on my opinion... every mic on this shootout video are very impressive - "A-list" for sure! thank you very pro shootout and very helpful.

@purewaveaudio 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

@who_is_dis 2 жыл бұрын

U67 sounded the most natural by FAR.

@mistermusicenterprise3148 Жыл бұрын

Mojave is the best sounding mic . Lauten is meeh. U67 is golden, SE is not bad. But the Mojave had it all. Great mic

@Regular-Person-Guy Жыл бұрын

I like the Mojave for the female, and the Lauten for the male. However, the U67 sounded good on both, just not the best on both, if that makes any sense. But we are talking very subtle differences here. I was surprised how much I didn't like the SE mic. I wanted to like it most because it bears the name of the King.

@HarvinderSingh-yy8th Жыл бұрын

Mind blowing review. Which of these mic do you prefer.

@rollowarlin8450 11 ай бұрын

Wow ! Testing the cream of the crop. Thanks plenty!.

@juniorvicepresidentofzimba4946 Жыл бұрын

For me it's the U67 all day, certainly not for the price, what a nightmare - purely for the sibilance. The others are already have sibilance at a level and tone that would be prohibit EQ, after compression/de-essing, I've found it gets nightmarishly processed. A (slightly) cheaper way to get achieve a workable sibilance is a U87 going into a bombastic tube pre. I have some old german tube pres that do an amazing job, but the WA-MPX is up to the task.

@georgesmith5005 4 жыл бұрын

I felt that the Eden 386 microphone did very well with this shootout you get three different mics in One mic I like that microphone

@garyharrison8891 4 жыл бұрын

Thru the headphones I liked the U67, thru the monitors I liked the RNT. It’s a bit pristine here, I bet it would shine through a pushed 1073.

@shnshn6871 5 ай бұрын

The real trick was convincing Tony Stewart to sing Chandlier for this video

@Slipsch 11 ай бұрын

The Lauten uses capsule that is of chinese origin, they are the only one allowed to use it but still, at this kind of price point, we expect the capsule to be made in house and handmade.

@andymacc 4 жыл бұрын

U67 just shines... use a Shure KSM32 on male vocals into a UA Valve Mic Pre & wondered if you've any thoughts on this?

@mistara1 2 жыл бұрын

U67 is the King. Other mics are too harsh. It is very clear also to non trained ear with the "s" sounds. They sound like big transient spikes in other 3 mic and very unpleasant. Only on Neumann they sound smooth and soft.

@HarvinderSingh-yy8th Жыл бұрын

That's right.

@TheRTM 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you need a gate in your chain… (hear that hum in the back ground?)

@ndavies8 Жыл бұрын

Is it me or does the Mojave sound more nasal than the rest? A true 251 is hardly ever nasal. Eden sounded awesome

@TheRTM 3 жыл бұрын

The Neumann and the Eden mics did a much better job of mitigating the sharp “s” sounds.

@mwdollar 4 ай бұрын

The 67 for me.

@MCAlvesPortugal 6 ай бұрын

Se Rnt is the best. Finish sound.

@darrylweller6143 5 жыл бұрын

Mojave 1000 sounded best

@keithferris9574 3 жыл бұрын

It sounds slightly scooped to me.

@Flippy2good 7 ай бұрын

Truly loved the Mojave the most. Suuuuper pleasant low end and high end compared to all. SE was my least favorite

@jinshuofeng6716 3 жыл бұрын

u67 yes

@jayg2551 5 ай бұрын

It’s a clear 2 horse race. U67 and Eden. Those who say the Mojave is better need to get their hearing checked 😂

@symdega 7 ай бұрын

To me, the RNT is a modern Marvel....

@dondino5190 3 жыл бұрын

The mics sound great… but why would y’all let her mess that song up like that

@HarvinderSingh-yy8th 6 ай бұрын

I prefer u67 vintage.

@christopherpederson1021 4 жыл бұрын

U67 is clearly the winner hear for both vocal performances. The rnt is pretty great too. The eden didn’t perform all that great.

@nathanaeldavenport2251 3 жыл бұрын

Well, that's HIGHLY subjective. It's been well demonstrated in many places that prevailing confirmation bias in pro audio leans heavily towards gear that is vintage and expensive. I love the 67 on many things, but not so much on vocals, and this test bears that out - at least for me. For the female voice, I prefer the RNT; for the male, the Mojave. Change the singer and/or room and my answers would likely change.

@imhaydenmelrose 2 жыл бұрын

That's interesting. I thought the Eden sounded the most like the U67. Weird you would have that opinion.

@who_is_dis 2 жыл бұрын

@@nathanaeldavenport2251 U67 sounds by far the most natural on vocals, but yeah, subjective

@yoyoboom Жыл бұрын

U67 sounds like a finished product, slightly compressed. The RNT is a close second.

@Bigbadbosman 2 жыл бұрын

Lauten Eden & the Se RTN stood out for me in both cases. If I had to pic one it would be the Lauten Eden hands down had the magic for me. Sad cuz I was really expecting the Vintage U67 to blow the rest away but it didn't even place. This is why you should keep doing these shootouts!😃🦧

@ndavies8 2 жыл бұрын

Me too

@gaboonschoolofmusic9848 10 ай бұрын

mohave 1000 is my favorite

@picsvids1741 3 жыл бұрын

U67

@OdinOfficialEmcee 3 жыл бұрын

For me, the MA1000 wins. Hands down

@dougwayne 3 жыл бұрын

MA 1000... No contest

@av3nger3 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree. That transient detail annihilates all the others.

@zaperfan Жыл бұрын

RNT sounds the best in detail to my ears

@tumaymusic1720 Жыл бұрын

i think ma1000 is winner, rnt is in the second place.

@PeterAlanA1234567890 4 жыл бұрын

U 67 is king s SE is second to my ears.

@grandfury5609 4 жыл бұрын

Should of blind folded her, obviously she loved the neumann also cuz she's all up in it's cardioid. Lol. I liked her on the Eden, personally. I own a ma-1000 and use my Atlantis frequently with a Daking and Avalon 737sp

@BUCKSHOTSTV 2 жыл бұрын

How do you like the sound of the ma-1000 into the Avalon? I’m between the 1000 or u87ai. I do VO work full time and was kind of concerned there would be too much tube sound from the 1000 into the Avalon

@grandfury5609 2 жыл бұрын

@@BUCKSHOTSTV the 1000 sounds dope! But I sold it, along w the u87. I do the same as you. Vox! You don't need a $3500 bro. 20 yrs ago yes! But now u can find mics in the $1k-$1500 range that sound better. Example I kept Lauten Atlantis and it is the superior mic to the two I just mentioned in my opinion. It sounds like u87 but has options as check it out on Sweetwater or KZfaq LAUTEN ATLANTIS You'll thank me later.