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Tung Yingchieh (1898-1961)

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Tung Yingchieh, founder of Tung Style Taichi. Tung Ying Chieh was a student of Yang Chenfu. He was the creator of Tung Style Taichi, and performs his slow set in both pieces of the footage. The first part was filmed in 1950 and the second was filmed in 1945.

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@shenhe6281
@shenhe6281 11 жыл бұрын
How can people dislike the number one student of Yang Chengfu?
@pranayama72
@pranayama72 17 жыл бұрын
That's the second part of the yang set. We want to see the first and the second!
@johanniels
@johanniels 14 жыл бұрын
@osamabinsmokin So if he does a movement in a controlled manner he cannot also do it in a fast way? The low speed is to build precision - as when you play an instrument, the best way to attain precise movements is by playing the sequence you whish to learn in a controlled manner; then you wont make any mistakes. If you try to attain full speed from the beginning, the probability of error is greater. Tai chi applied in combat would be full speed, the form is slow to ensure control.
@MasOlai
@MasOlai 15 жыл бұрын
To aim for quality in life and not quantity. So the best one can hope for, is to get to the point where it is the moment that matters. Then its real tai chi that is in practice.
@MasOlai
@MasOlai 15 жыл бұрын
I think the many healhtbenefits of tai chi is often misunderstood. All kinds of moderate activity has its healthbenefits. I think there is no proof that tai chi make ones life any longer compared to for example other ways of martial arts. But its softness and smoothness on the joints and muscles makes it an art that can be practice fully throughout ones life.
@Ryooken
@Ryooken 17 жыл бұрын
It's a matter of personalization. Many instructors take what they do well and make a form out of it. They do this to practice and hone their best moves and skills. After a while this is all they practice and in some cases this is what they pass on to their top students.
@user-uo2pj6sx5w
@user-uo2pj6sx5w Жыл бұрын
How could I know please where comes from the music?
@xxgmpxx
@xxgmpxx 15 жыл бұрын
I love this video!
@internalarts2
@internalarts2 14 жыл бұрын
one reason is to be able to pay very close attention to refining body structure, the better a stucture the more force one can take in and issue out.
@littlecannon
@littlecannon 18 жыл бұрын
Nice video.... there's hardly any difference betweeen his slow set and that of Chengfu's... or is he performing the Yang set here?
@Gieszkanne
@Gieszkanne 13 жыл бұрын
@Bangled Thanks interesting information. I think there is danger to dissipate energy but there are also internal masters who get old and external who dont. The system itself never can give you certainty to do the right thing.
@johanniels
@johanniels 14 жыл бұрын
@osamabinsmokin I haven't been able to find any tai chi practitioners in actual fights on video either, sadly - but to show how you apply tai chi at speed this is not necessarily the only way. many videos are on youtube with "tai chi applications" - the traditional way of adapting the movements of the form to different attacks and situations. These show how tai chi can be used effectively. Some are here: watch?v=tEbupVWZ6mk&feature=related be sure to watch it to the end
@Bangled
@Bangled 13 жыл бұрын
@Gieszkanne The longevity of Tai-Chi masters is small when compared to other martial artists. I read in a book, think it was "Tai Chi's Ancestors", that internal arts relax the body and open meridians but dissipate the energy. While external arts may obstruct the flow of energy but concentrate energy.
@reforest4fertility
@reforest4fertility 5 жыл бұрын
BS -- that cant be used as generalization. What around this you can say is easterners live longer than westerners, in good part due to Asians living in their legs, on and a part of the Earth, while Occidentals live aloof of Earth, high on furniture, be it on the toilet or just sitting around armchair travelers or couch potatos
@Bangled
@Bangled 11 жыл бұрын
Yes also Sun Jiayun, the daughter of Sun Lu Tang, lived 90 years. However I was thinking about the most famous Taijiquan masters, Yang Lu Chan, Yang Cheng Fu, Sun Lu Tang, Cheng Man-Ch'ing died in their 70s.
@Lorax505
@Lorax505 14 жыл бұрын
this is called the slow form or slow set, there is a faster form to this tai chi, the slow is just for developing precision and relaxation, thats why it's slow.
@benjimatt
@benjimatt 17 жыл бұрын
Tung Ying-Chieh was the teaching assistant of Yang Cheng-Fu. He is performing the second section of the Yang Long Form. Also I disagree with the "about this" video he is one of the only people to pass on the true yang cheng-fu long form, not the Tung form. As of now his student Chun Tin, (may be spelled incorrectly) is still teaching traditional Yang Long form in Hong Kong.
@johanniels
@johanniels 14 жыл бұрын
@osamabinsmokin And, as mentioned by others, there are also many fast tai chi forms. And if you are interested in understanding how it i possible to use tai chi as a practical combat system, there are many more videos showing applications (some of them probably better than the one i wrote you), and though they do not show actual combat, they can be used to understand how the movements can be utilised in combat. I'll have to agree with you that many practitioners have no clue about combat though
@hyoung888888
@hyoung888888 15 жыл бұрын
I read Tung's teacher died from a cold or virus because of his visit to Hong Kong. Let's ask his daughter, and grandchildren how Tung Ying Chieh died.
@taijispirit1
@taijispirit1 13 жыл бұрын
Many ask questions as to why so different from master to master. In Taijiquan as in writing there are principles. We learn how to write correctly the ABC's, but when it comes to signing your name, everyone has there own signature. Some are better than others and more legible, while other signatures turn in to scribble and hardly legible. The key to Taijiquan are the principles, not so much the form, yes form is important, but principles are vital. Master Tung Ying Chieh shows correct principles.
@kurukcr
@kurukcr 11 жыл бұрын
You can't say this. Actually there are several Grand Masters who reached more than 100 years old. As an example Grandmaster Wu Tu Nan lived 103 and Grandmaster Lu Zi Jian who passed away several months ago lived more than 115 years. The idea of Nei Jia Quan is to refine and control the flow of your Chi, if Chi gets "dissipated" we die...
@johanniels
@johanniels 14 жыл бұрын
@osamabinsmokin And, finally, this video /watch?v=kf44kawWBvY&feature=related , even though it is a bit commercialized, shows a guy who actually uses the concepts and movements of tai chi as a very potent self defence system, and the movements are shown at speed in the video. Again, be sure to watch it all. I promise this is the last part of my answer :P
@WonderWomann
@WonderWomann 17 жыл бұрын
Hes a well known disciple of Yang Cheng Fu right?
@jekylfoot
@jekylfoot 15 жыл бұрын
That is normal speed.... you can tell because @1:15 the bystander walks out of the view of the camera, and he seems to be moving at "normal" speed... Plus, .........this stuff is practiced slow.....
@Gieszkanne
@Gieszkanne 14 жыл бұрын
@pribadi8406 Yang Chengfu only gets 52 and Yang Banhou 55 ! The most Masters also Chen or Wu Style hardly get older than 70. While there are a lot of Weijia Masters in there 90ies with a better shape. That Taiji making old is a myth but maybe all famous styles are not the real taiji of the legends ? Who knows. Fact is that there are a lot of masters with good neijia skills and also those who practice with rounded back leaning forward. You wont get THE answer just yours ;)
@pranayama72
@pranayama72 17 жыл бұрын
the third!
@jekylfoot
@jekylfoot 15 жыл бұрын
Why? "tai chi" is practiced slowly......
@shenhe6281
@shenhe6281 11 жыл бұрын
Tung's Hsinyi and Bagua were not very authentic compared to those who only focused on Bagua.
@internalarts2
@internalarts2 14 жыл бұрын
find a decent tai chi practitioner and ask them to show you how....
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