Fallout Lore: The Fiends - Fallout's Most Disturbing Raiders

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nvRanger

nvRanger

11 ай бұрын

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Fallout Lore: I wanted to delve in to my favorite raider group in the Fallout universe, the Fiends. I would love to see this faction further expanded upon and played with under the Vegas setting. I think it fits so well to have to group of that can explore the topic of addiction, and while this game doesn't quite execute this perfectly, an attempt at something more nuanced than the standard raider was attempted and worth inspecting.
I hope you enjoyed or gained something from the video, feel free to add or critique below.

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@nvRanger
@nvRanger 11 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bJyTjMaExtGannk.html Gabor Mate on Addiction
@colddaze6680
@colddaze6680 6 ай бұрын
You went all out here. Not only into Fiends lore but how and why people become addicted. In depth a.f. you went above and beyond into sharing an understanding as to who and why the Fiends are the way they are ,which basically relates to the sad ugly truth and to why so many become junkies in real life. As someone who has had experience with this ,had some friends who also did ,even an ex gf. I have to give you an extra 👋👋👋 for the effort you put in here. Finely detailed lore vid on more than one angle ,well done.
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 6 ай бұрын
@@colddaze6680 Glad you enjoyed it, the kind words mean a lot. Not all will understand the content, but I hoped to bridge that gap just a bit if possible. interesting how real life exerpience shapes how we percieve video games and what we are able to gather from them.
@colddaze6680
@colddaze6680 6 ай бұрын
@@nvRanger True, as much sci fi ,fantasy as there is in Fallout. There are also deeper reflections of real life in it. From junkies to Joshua Graham. Why it resonates with so many on so many levels. It's truly a unique game and verse I think.
@theunguy8988
@theunguy8988 2 ай бұрын
Don't know how a Crack head can build a army and yet know how to use power armor and get laser weapons and drug at a desert
@concept5631
@concept5631 2 ай бұрын
​@@nvRanger What map software did you use for showing the factions in the video?
@mahomy1000
@mahomy1000 11 ай бұрын
I have seen dozens of fallout youtubers, ive sat through years of content, listening over and over. But i have never watched a video that got me to think about the world of fallout the way you do. the way you tie in game lore with real life historical and scientific events and information, even including a speech on drugs not ment for fallout originally, but fits perfectly with the setting.....very well done. If there was an NCR version of the Storyteller that state events like he was describing an event or problem (vs telling a thrilling story about it) it would be you. It felt like I was A trooper being warned on what Med-X can do to me before I slam it into my arm.
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, it motivates me to keep at it. The series as a whole draws so much from real life, not that other games don't, but the way Fallout uses history to tell a story set in the future is fascinating. Relatable and familiar despite being set hundreds of years away in an alternate universe where the apocalypse has come and gone.
@robbiemurda2213
@robbiemurda2213 3 ай бұрын
That intro was very relatable only an addict can save themselves it takes a lot of will power and compromise to get clean
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 3 ай бұрын
absolutely, I would add a purpose to get clean as well. Light at the end of the tunnel
@ifarded4986
@ifarded4986 2 ай бұрын
Yes it was. I was an acholic for about 8 years. I'll make 3 years sober in November and finding a reason to quit was harder than quitting itself.
@sunny_froyo
@sunny_froyo Ай бұрын
Not really, all it takes is the true desire to stop. It's not a disease, it's people having weak minds.
@OwenDePascal
@OwenDePascal 12 күн бұрын
​@sunny_froyo gtfo you clearly have no experience with addiction or know anybody who or has been addicted so keep quiet bitch
@matiasyannuzzi9655
@matiasyannuzzi9655 2 ай бұрын
Damn, that last quote hit like a ton of bricks.
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 2 ай бұрын
His speech almost felt like poetry. Expert in the subject matter combined with extreme passion.
@kitkazer
@kitkazer 11 ай бұрын
Super interesting once again. If unchecked the fiends would become a huge force to deal with. If they do have children, they would basically breed an army of emotionless husks willing to do anything for that "warm hug" they never received naturally.
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 11 ай бұрын
That is a frightening aspect to consider. Many children born addicted to substances, likely with minimal parenting. It’s a wonder they survive day to day let alone be the threat they are.
@striker8961
@striker8961 18 күн бұрын
When I met Motor-Runner I was like aww shit this guy is actually smart enough to know he needs to keep his people outside of Westside so he settled the Vault. A small thing but it shows he isn’t just a chemmed up murderer, he is, but he’s a cold, ruthless, analytical manipulator. He speaks so calmly. Just made me think about what terrors he could unleash if left unchecked by the greater powers of the mojave.
@finleybond99
@finleybond99 3 ай бұрын
As a fallout connoisseur, theses lore vids are the best on KZfaq in my opinion
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 3 ай бұрын
that is a cool ass thing for you say. Thank you
@concept5631
@concept5631 2 ай бұрын
Yeah its pretty good.
@gyr0zeppeliii507
@gyr0zeppeliii507 2 ай бұрын
What I find funny is groups like the fiends are basically begging to be in the legion, as seen by the end slides, even though they have an extreme dependency on Chems something the legion hates
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 2 ай бұрын
Yes the Legion will eradicate them if given the chance. No way they’d even both integrating them.
@XerouEffect13
@XerouEffect13 3 ай бұрын
i didnt realise this till now. but vault 3 and 33 were not much different between each other. except for 33 32 and 31 being connected.
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 3 ай бұрын
You mean with raiders invading?
@XerouEffect13
@XerouEffect13 3 ай бұрын
@@nvRanger lol that too. even tho the raiders that invade 33 claim to be ncr... looks like raiders to me not ncr
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 3 ай бұрын
Is that confirmed? I have heard theories that Moldaver hired raiders. I doubt NCR raised citizens would fail to eat with a fork and knife or not know that they shouldn’t drink water from a blender like the 33 raiders in ep 1.
@ryceprecision1924
@ryceprecision1924 2 ай бұрын
Me, playing an NCR build to the Fiends: ABSOLUTELY NO QUARTER
@ananteshesha5788
@ananteshesha5788 Ай бұрын
Cook cook canonically uses mentats, so hes also the most enlightened one
@nvRanger
@nvRanger Ай бұрын
Good point
@paladinezrah4874
@paladinezrah4874 Ай бұрын
This was a fucking fantastic video! As a heroin addict with 10 years clean, this video hit home for me. Please continue to make awesome Fallout New Vegas lore videos. 👍
@nvRanger
@nvRanger Ай бұрын
Appreciate you and congrats on 10 years 🙏
@rootin222
@rootin222 Ай бұрын
This is the most intense analysis of a fallout faction you should do Powder Gangers next
@nvRanger
@nvRanger Ай бұрын
Definitely have an idea for that one. Powder gangers are interesting.
@liaratsoni8556
@liaratsoni8556 5 ай бұрын
Excellent Video!
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 5 ай бұрын
thank you 🙏
@adrianaslund8605
@adrianaslund8605 3 ай бұрын
Chasing the Scream is a great book about addiction. It's abit of a personal favorite. And an interview with Gabor Mate is indeed featured quite abit in it.
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 3 ай бұрын
Awesome, I’ll have to check it out.
@kekero540
@kekero540 2 ай бұрын
The fiends and groups like them’s existence are the only real justification the legion can muster for their conquest
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps, Idk if it justifies it tbh. The NCR or House could probably deal with them if there wasn’t so much else going on in the region.
@kekero540
@kekero540 2 ай бұрын
@@nvRanger true, but that’s 1 justification. Against the NCRs many more reasonable ones.
@concept5631
@concept5631 2 ай бұрын
​@@kekero540 Even then, if the NCR actually cared about the Mojave the raiders (Legion included) in the region wouldn't exist. The Legion is putting 110% to win at Hoover Dam. Most of California doesn't know or care about it.
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 11 ай бұрын
In what way can games develop upon their raider factions going forward to make them more interesting? How can we make some of the tired gameplay loops more compelling?
@jrex0522
@jrex0522 11 ай бұрын
Allowing the player to delve deeper into the raiders as both an overarching faction and as people (not entirely dissimilar to nuka world but on a larger, 'faction' wide scale) might be an interesting way to do it. Perhaps the PC could even, with enough karma (karma should be a thing in every fallout game as well imo) and or/standing with that group to rehabilitate or drive them further down to being more like fiends. It could also make for exceptionally interesting companion possibilities - Cait comes to mind as an example and she was never a fully fledged raider, though she lived with them. To apply my idea to fallout 4, it could be that initially you get a few starving and desperate raiders pop up who try to kill you initially, but surrender (and actually surrender, to play on the meme) if you get them low enough, or maybe one surrenders if the other dies, etc. And as a last ditch effort they could promise to do X (probably do guard work, or scavenging) for you. From there, you can direct them to whatever settlement you want Initially, regular settlers would be wary at best or passively hostile at worst (an NPC avoids them or a vendor actively refuses to trade with them), and that can either lead to the raider staying the same (possibly planning to kill you and some of the npcs that are passively hostile) or slowly integrating more if you intervene enough, and keep the raider from being ostracized from the rest by expectation Furthermore, interactions between former raiders and new arrivals might be an interesting way to speed the process up or drastically slow it down, depending on various factors
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 11 ай бұрын
@@jrex0522 Love that idea, honestly fantastic. Having the ability to grow or lessen the raider presence based on your playthrough in an RPG would be captivating. Especially if you could join the Fiends, growing them makes sense, and joining the Followers of the Apocalypse makes rehabbing them fitting as well. The bounty hunter types can still go after the leaders and kill them.
@colddaze6680
@colddaze6680 6 ай бұрын
A juicy question. As end of the day I'm more outlaw ,gang type. Than obedient soldier that follows any n all orders 24/7. Far more likely to join and pledge allegiance to the Khans or Ashur's Army than BoS or NCR. Even though I've had characters in all. Cause love Fallout. Well far as NV, I've seen there is at least one mod that fully fleshes out both Vipers and Jackals. With very authentic lore friendly applications. Basically cut content that pressed for time devs left out, not by choice so much. Vipers lore is interesting a.f to me. Official lore (and the mod) has them in bone armour , they make bows out of bone and arrows, and poison the arrows tips with viper venom. Bone spears , machetes ,along with regular weapons ,guns to tackle other raiders or NCR ,Legion etc. Snake skins hold the bone armour together I think. So much more interesting than what was in vanilla game. I'm sure you have basic knowledge of Viper origins and lore of the giant mutated vipers in the pit that the tribal cult evolved around etc. I'd think it would be cool a.f if the player could just live as a Viper if they chose for whole game. Join for good ,changing whole main questline, focused on Vipers alone in a new main quest line,with added bunch of side quests ( hunting ,gathering for tribe and Viper shaman leader), ( some one else becomes the main protagonist ), or be born into tribe from start would be even more interesting. Growing up with Viper parents ,showing every and all tribal customs , traits and rites in the process. Growing up in the tribe, like you grow up in the vault in 3 ,except far more in depth ,and way more over time. Where you are allowed , to literally physically grow, gain experience/ XP through tribal rites, and encouraged to hone and expand your learned skills - RPG evolution elements. A proper RPG experience, more like F1 & 2 again, but in cool 3D first and third person format ,gameplay like FNV still. Jackals are more chaotic. Tribal ,but not as evolved as Vipers far as I can tell. Their tribe revolves around basic raiding, cannibalism of victims and dressing in furs and skins of jackals far as I can tell? They like wearing jackal hoods, same like Vulpes wears. Still in the NV raiders mod they are way more lore friendly than vanilla game. And would be interesting to do a character play through. Both tribes are raider gang tribes from F1 and 2 yeah ? For Khan's , same again, be born into , grow and evolve your character from child in tribe into full warrior. Work way up ranks. To be trusted soldier and friends with Regis and Papa Khan. Do all kinds of side quests for them from recon, intell to hunt and gather. Earn your credit, reputation - karma, with Khan's on how many hunting kills you bring home for tribe, how many geckos, big horners you bring home ( Khan's appreciation is measured by amount of meat ,furs skins bones harvested off each kill. And how dangerous each species is. You would also get a " bravery points " ladder,. go after fire geckos , big horner bulls, cazadors ( for Jack n Diane to create anti venom for the tribe?) and death claws enough times and you would say get a elite hunter status among the Khans? Including extra weapons, better re enforced leather jacket (like a elite Khan's leathers set , for their best hunters and soldiers). armoured Khan's helmet which you could craft- mod in-game with extra padding from kills ,skins n furs etc ,better more high powered rifles, a.p ammo, hollow points , explosive ammo for bigger game and tougher enemies etc, at the Khans gun shop / arsenal. For Ashur's Army, same again. Join for life, or be born into , grow slower and more in depth and evolve full RPG style. Work way up ranks , or stay a long range recon , intell gatherer ,food and other supplies gatherer. Capture slaves , ( enlist or defeat ,capture smaller raider gangs instead of innocents, ( get em to surrender somehow ,or have option to talk - talk them into joining Pitt raiders etc) . Do like a BoS thing from F4 ,where you can offer smaller farmers ,share croppers protection from Ashur's Army, or crops will be taken by force and or they will be taken into slavery. I could go on forever, ideas this way and that. But yeah hopefully answers the question you asked at least some what if I interpreted the question right? You were just meaning raider, tribal factions in Fallout yeah ?
@user-wp6kt2ky2i
@user-wp6kt2ky2i Ай бұрын
Finally, the Fiends getting the credit they deserve.
@nvRanger
@nvRanger Ай бұрын
Wish we could see them fleshed out even more.
@AlexRoivas
@AlexRoivas Ай бұрын
Thought this would be a lore video. Turned into a horror drug psa. Very nice
@nvRanger
@nvRanger Ай бұрын
Lmao
@725k9
@725k9 Ай бұрын
Great video!
@nvRanger
@nvRanger Ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@Analog_Mind47
@Analog_Mind47 3 ай бұрын
How'd they get all their energy weapons? They also don't seem to be capable of maintaining them so they must have a large stockpile or an unknown supplier (but, their presence literally benefits nobody, so whom would that be?)
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 3 ай бұрын
Their presence does benefit the Khans and Legion TEMPORARILY because of the NCR. There is kind of a debate here. It seems that they might have energy weapons as a result of a development mistake. The other argument is that the Legion supplies them with those via the Van Graffs. There’s a mission centered around this where the Legion is exposed for buying energy weapons from them, but the legion does not use energy weapons. I like the latter possibility.
@kekkoinen
@kekkoinen 3 ай бұрын
​@@nvRanger while it makes sense for the Van Graffs to sell to the legion, I dont think they'd want their guns in the hands of the fiends, because selling weapons (through a middleman, but still) to a group that would undoubtedly rob your caravans doesn't seem like a very good deal
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 3 ай бұрын
Fair, but perhaps they did not know the arrangement the Legion had.
@rootin222
@rootin222 Ай бұрын
@@nvRangeror them intercepting the omertà cache of weapons should explain it
@Lightning_Strike
@Lightning_Strike 2 ай бұрын
The world map that shows fallout locations over real ones is sick. Where do you find it
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 2 ай бұрын
Sorry for the wait. www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en_US&mid=1puuQVpbfh4ofYflJxJPB6iul6JQ&ll=39.63153139886184%2C-84.77711362140184&z=6
@Kleineralsdulil
@Kleineralsdulil 2 ай бұрын
did you use cyberpunk soundtrack around 14 minutes?? man of culture
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 2 ай бұрын
yessir, one of the best soundtracks, game, movie tv, doesn't matter
@llyy2133
@llyy2133 11 ай бұрын
next video family guy?
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 11 ай бұрын
give me an essay on why Family guy?
@llyy2133
@llyy2133 11 ай бұрын
@@nvRangerfirst of all you neglected full fiend territory stretching to Repconn, and two important named fiends Daniel and Zapp. And three previous fiend leaders killed by little buster
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 11 ай бұрын
@@llyy2133 first of all there's some thin meat not worth biting in to there tbh. The neon sign could be cool but they're not lit up in game. Perhaps if in execution the zapps sign walls they made were lit up that would add to their trippy existence all doped up surrounded by neon, but i appreciate the honest response.
@llyy2133
@llyy2133 11 ай бұрын
@@nvRangerjust saying if you want full coverage then previous leaders killed for bounties and other less significant leaders is important. Along with the true range of territory
@0utc4stBMXsk8
@0utc4stBMXsk8 3 ай бұрын
What armor mod are you using here?
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 3 ай бұрын
Armor mod? What point of the video are you referring to?
@0utc4stBMXsk8
@0utc4stBMXsk8 2 ай бұрын
@MalpaisRanger the armor that cook cook is wearing
@The3LetterAgency
@The3LetterAgency 2 ай бұрын
Whats the map you're using?
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 2 ай бұрын
www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en_US&mid=1puuQVpbfh4ofYflJxJPB6iul6JQ&ll=39.63153139886184%2C-84.77711362140184&z=6
@The3LetterAgency
@The3LetterAgency 2 ай бұрын
@@nvRanger oh damn I didn't even know you could do that on Google maps. Thanks.
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 2 ай бұрын
@@The3LetterAgency me neither, I didn't make it, but I love me some maps
@vizalloteafilter
@vizalloteafilter 2 ай бұрын
do you happen to have hungarian ancestry? just asking because of your name :D
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 2 ай бұрын
Are you referring to Malpais? I do not, it’s in reference to the “Malpais” Legate Joshua Graham. What does it mean in Hungarian?
@jordanmagpiebullet7978
@jordanmagpiebullet7978 11 ай бұрын
Amazing video keep them coming and can I ask you something as will
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 11 ай бұрын
Appreciate it, ask away
@jordanmagpiebullet7978
@jordanmagpiebullet7978 11 ай бұрын
@@nvRanger one can I do re@ct to your videos on my channel and two I live in Alberta we have amazing drug rehab centres here
@jordanmagpiebulIet7978
@jordanmagpiebulIet7978 10 ай бұрын
@@nvRangerwhy do you hate your loyal family guy loving fans so much? Be honest.🧐
@boltlinked
@boltlinked 10 ай бұрын
@@jordanmagpiebulIet7978because he’s been having family problems at home and takes his pent up anger out on his fans. Pretty sad to see.
@llyy2133
@llyy2133 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@jordanmagpiebulIet7978normally people lash out when depressed
@tinaherr3856
@tinaherr3856 5 ай бұрын
Not going to lie, Fallout 76 did a much better version of the Fiends. From the Survivor Stories in the original release, to Becket and his questline with the Blood Eagles
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 5 ай бұрын
76 has Fiends?
@tinaherr3856
@tinaherr3856 5 ай бұрын
@@nvRanger I said a *version* of the Fiends. By version, I meant a group with a similar concept as the Fiends, but are not actually the same Fiends raider groups. The Blood Eagles in Fallout 76 are a group of raiders that are more brutal than other raiders, and they use a lot of chems, so much that some people don't full grasp reality anymore. It's actually part of their recruiting strategy. They torture people and forcefully give them chems in order to break them and make them dependent on the Blood Eagles, forcing them to join. (Though, they also just attract recruits due to their supply of chems, which draws normal people and pre-existing addicts alike. Getting out of the gang is very difficult, and is something covered in Beckett's questline. In fact, a lot more things are covered in said questline in more detail
@Smo555-
@Smo555- 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, no
@tinaherr3856
@tinaherr3856 3 ай бұрын
@@Smo555- are you actually going to give me an explanation on *why* you believe the Fiends are deeper and narratively complex? Or are you just hating on Fallout 76 for the sake of it? Because you can absolutely not like Fallout 76, it's your opinion. But if you are going to hate on someone's point simply because it doesn't hate on that same thing, that is going a bit beyond "It's just my opinion".
@cain1605
@cain1605 3 ай бұрын
​@@nvRangerNo.
@boltlinked
@boltlinked 11 ай бұрын
Oh really, the group of raiders that are deathly addicted to chems is a sad story???Stop it with these shallow NV analysis videos and go back to your core roots, the Griffin household.
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 11 ай бұрын
Wasn’t saying this once enough young man
@boltlinked
@boltlinked 10 ай бұрын
@@nvRangerwhat are you saying, you sound schizophrenic.
@RedRangerFan
@RedRangerFan 10 ай бұрын
Disgusting switch up on your family guy loving fans!!!!
@nvRanger
@nvRanger 10 ай бұрын
and what will you be doing about it @RedRangerFan huh? what kinda fan are you anyway. all you've done is complain your entire fandom, shameful
@colddaze6680
@colddaze6680 5 ай бұрын
@@nvRanger some guys just don't know how to communicate like a reasonable human being, and appreciate anything . Or are just that socially awkward. Or are just straight up miserable misanthropes all the time? Maybe says more about them ,than you man. 👍
@llyy2133
@llyy2133 4 ай бұрын
@@colddaze6680I graduated MIT top of my class and I think your a big idiot dude
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