"But as most mathematicians could tell you, two is not the only number"

Ok, seriously, ADHD guy here, just wanted to say thank you! Really! ^^ You have no idea how much those doodles help me keep focus for some reason. xD I learn more and faster here than what I have in 14 years of classical training. So thank you! ^^

"Swing is triplets" How dare you

My favorite example is the opening of Stravinsky's Petrouchka in which the foundation is established in 3/4 but the melody joins in 7/8 and 8/8, squeezed into the same amount of time as 3/4, with triplet figures nested in the tuplets.

Love the subtle shout out to Zappa when you said "these rhythms even make Steve Vai cringe!"

Didn't expect the Mandelbrot set and Feynman diagrams in a music theory video,

Did no one else catch the tuplets all the way down joke? He even slipped a turtle in. That was great!

groups of two can actually be called duplets. Now you know.

7/16 is my favorite signature and 7 against 8. Very fun.

With sufficient practice, polyrhythms can be played by feel.

And to make music complete, we *need* tuplets based on : tau, phi, e and i.

I want to add a few things to this. First, I think there's a lot more to say about rhythmic ratios. An N-tuplet Mth note means to play N notes in the same time as 2 Mth notes would take up (though for N>=6 we tend to use a smaller division in writing). However, if you wanted to play 7 notes in the space of 5 eighth notes, you can't write that as a simple tuple. You would have to write it as 7 eighth notes, bracketed with 7:5 notated. This can be done with any two numbers and really opens up the options of complex rhythms. They can even be nested rhythmic ratios played in polyrhythm with other nested rhythmic ratios -- see Brian Ferneyhough. Also, while you mention that any number except 2 can be a tuplet, even 2 can be a tuplet. It's actually quite (relatively?) common to see eighth note duples/duplets in 6/8 and other compound meters. It's essentially the reverse of a triplet, and the analog to the sextuplet is the quadruplet. In simple meters like 4/4 these don't make any sense, but the same can be said about triplets in compound time. Last, I just want to point out that percussionists are responsible for playing all of these things (and the thousands of other complex rhythmic ideas). A percussionist with a Bachelor's degree will probably have been tested on playing a 3:4:5 polyrhythm on a drumset at some point, while nested tuplets and polyrhythms like 5:4 and 7:8 are routine -- there's simply not a college level snare drum piece that doesn't involve some of this. Great video, just wanted to fill up some of the gaps from a percussionists perspective.

Fantastic video, I always come back to it.

It's always nice when I find an "insta-sub" channel, where I hit the button before the video has finished the intro ✌️😊

Amazing work with this video, I hope people understand and appreciate the time and effort you put in your videos. Thanks!

I remember watching these back in high school and loving them... now that I'm brushing up on music theory in college, I ran across the channel again. Feels good to see an old friend after so long :)

This is like the most comprehensive guide to nested tuplets like EVER.. 11/10 man, nice work

Exceptional! Both in presentation choice and instructional quality. Earned a sub with this vid!

This was really great... In fact the best short description on "rhythm" I ever seen... I would love some song examples, where and how they have been used... But also I think a 5 min video is pretty optimal so you would not have had time for it. I will go looking for some eksembles.

Steve Vai and Rick Beato somehow brought me here. Fantastic video which explains really complex concepts so well!

One of the best videos I've seen on this. Nice job!!

“Tuplets all the way down” *draws a turtle* Bravo~!

Ooh the Sibelius concerto has a really cool quintuplet run

Thanks for this video, if seen these in sheet music but I never really understood them. This is a piece of the puzzle I've finally seen explained. Now to grasp it and either gain more from studying sheet music or applying it to my own work is the trick. Thanks again I love your channel =^)

that's an elegant video explains pretty much everything about rhythm.

I keep catching this, with people saying that jazz swing is just triplet eighths without the middle beat. But that's not true. Swung eighths can be ahead or behind that, depending on the speed. This can be heavy swing, which sounds almost like dotted eighth sixteenth, or light swing, which sounds close to straight eighth notes. Plus, I like to consider the concept of swung tuplets, which may sound like bad tuplets, but are really just adding a grove to notes. But that's just a personal theory. And that's without getting into rubato tuplets, which only really mean "play these notes in this time, and don't worry if they're actually even." Chopin uses them a lot.

"Swing is triplets" *Shawn Crowder would like to access your location*

This video just saved me so much unnecessary mathful stress

Have you any clips that talk about slip jigs? I have a great flamenco/jazz percussionist friend who is fascinated by complex timings, polyrhythms, etc. in all sorts of genres. We jam happily and often when we are in the same city as he likes my compositions with creative timings and I greatly appreciate his ability to 'get' my stuff and colour it so gracefully. He taught me a traditional Irish rhythm called a slip jig and I have had fun with it on the rare occasions I sit in at an Irish jam when they give me the chance to call a tune. I'd enjoy learning more about their possibilities in modern music.

Would like to see more about how to notate higher-order tuplets unambiguously and consistently.

Thanks!

If you are interested in grand use of Polyrhyhms and Tuplets you might want to check out Conlon Nancarrows studies for Player Piano, which are totally brillant and mindboggling and they influenced both Zappa and Ligeti. These complex Rhythms are all over Zappa's music specially since the Uncle Meat album and Ligetis Etudes for Piano and his Piano Concerto has a lot of those wonderful things.

Fragmented tuplets are the key behind "irrational" time signatures like x/3 (half-note triple gets the beat), x/5 (4th quintuple), x/6 (4th triple), x/12 (8th triple), and many others. Of course these time signatures mean nothing by themselves, but in context they can be used to notate metric modulations where writing a tempo change wouldbe cumbersome. A favorite of mine is alternating 3/4 and 5/6 bars - it's an uncomfortable not-quite-7/4 groove.

great vid :) i have noticed youve gained 5000 more subs since i last checked a little while ago. well done keep up great vids

Amazing rhythm tutorial, thank you. I need to slow the video down and practice these rhythms in my DAW 😅

I'm glad you defined polyrhythm and reassured me that I am not insane. For some reason, many people refer to "polyrhythms" or "polyrhythmic" as two different time signatures sharing the same beat occurring at the same time, e.g. 5/8 and 4/4. I thought that this was "polymeter," not "polyrhythm," and Wikipedia seems to agree with me, but I'm not sure why some people insist that it's the reverse. I mean, if 5/8 and 4/4 are meters, why would that be "polyrhythmic" and not "polymetric?" Are they thinking of metric modulation?

huh, i'm surprised you didn't mention even tuplets over odd amounts of space, like 4 notes over 3 eighth notes. It's probably the hardest one to count and also sounds the coolest to play in the context of more stable rhythms.

Quick question, is it a nested Tuplet when I (pianist, so talking two hands here) fit six nites (of certain value), within the boundary of two eighth? Or within two quarter for that matter, and the six notes within the envelope have the same length, is this some kind of tuplet? Now, if the left hand two notes are 8th, how should I notate the right hand six notes, also as 8th? Or as 16?

Which program did you use for the clicky metronome? I love the sound of it!

triplets may be the most common unless you are in my church orchestra then it is triplets quintuplets septuplets and 11-tuplets?

I love the sound of the metronome you used! The way it accents the beat and changed tones based on the strong or weak part of the beat was very helpful in feeling the beat/groove. May I ask what is the name of the metronome you used? Is there an Android app for it or PC software? Thanks in advance! Loved this video, keep up the great work my friend! 😊👍🎶

Sounds like Trap music. Easy to make crazy hi-hat rolls using tuplets , and thanks to Fruity Looos you don't need to understand what you are doing!! 😉

What is it called when I have a bar in 6/8 with 4 dotted eight notes working like 4/4 but it's still 6/8?

Cheeky Mandelbrot Set

Is there an app that can do this??? I mean nested tuplets.

Nice major triad polyrhythm, mang

I love this video, great work Cory, but the lack of "next" video in the description is stressful... If only KZfaq would allow you to watch through the vids of a channel in order without having to scroll through all of them each time!

But does it Djent?

Meter change is the real shizzz

Is there a mistake at about 2:00? I'd expect 8th note quintuplets to fit 5 "8th notes" into the space normally occupied by 2 8th notes. 5 notes squeezed into the space of 2 quarter notes are quarter note quintuplets, right?

I see a penguin diagram. Awesome!

Also in the world of metric applications everything is 4/4 Even to some further extents it becomes just pulses in different tempos... I.e. more freedom

Great video. Could you do a video on the melodic major scale (major scale b6)? I saw someone use it once and can't find any other lesson on the internet

Great video, didn't know this nomenclature of tuplets, thanks for sharing. Some music that makes uses of nested tuplets: Ferneyhough's quartets Frank Zappa's Black Pages

I've just caught up to your vids! Good job! Always wanted to find such material here on youtube! I guess you have a strong music theory background, what about the animating and sketching/scribling? :)

Great video :) But a hemiola is actually when you imply a different time signature without changing the real time signature. For example: play every second quarter note in 3/4 sounds like you're playing in 2/4.

Mandle brotset. Nice

Didnt Adam Neely talk about this in one of his videos. I forget. :P

Gedd octuplets

Composition challenge: write a piece in 41/32 time

.*Sees tuplets* .*sees nest* Oh boy

Why'd he draw the Mandelbrot set?

"not a composer issue" not sure if I agree. I guess if it's being done by computers then this is true, but writing stuff so it's easy to read should be a consideration imo.

Danny carey is the master at this

"Many songs are written in whats called *3/4* "

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If u want a good song with triplets. Look up schism by tool

So how about that polyrhythm 2 : √2

Reminds me of Vihart.

We must not let Dream Theatre know of this video…

what are the little characters you draw. looks like an elephant with shortened trunk, or is it a mouse, or... maybe just a fictional creature you made up? nonetheless humorous , I digress.. have you written any music we might like to hear? you seem to know a ton about theory. what instruments do you play.

So triplets can go w. any number, not just 3...

Tool does some great polyrhythm stuff.

THE BLACK PAGE

"That's not our problem" hahahah

"That's not our problem..." *Drummer commits suicide*

fantastic, except for the explanation of swing. Swing can move away from a beat in micro timing .

I'm watching this video bcz of an interview with Vai

huh

If you want some crazy tuplets check out this solo: i.imgur.com/auMEOTU.png

fully agree but cringed at _"jazz shuffle feel = triplets without middle note accented"_

you should sloww down a little bit

I hate to perform or even just read polyrhythms, especially in modern peices by young composers, who try to be orinigal and relevant, but instead create a disaster for the performers.

I don't consider Steve Vai a prog legend. There are many people who are much more appreciated in the prog world than him.

I'm a 16 year old pianist and I wrote a song using quintuplets

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