Jonas Kaufmann (Calaf) and Asmik Grigorian (Turandot) perform in Claus Guth's production of Turandot at the Wiener Staatsoper, conducted by Marco Armiliato. December 2023 Filmed by ORF
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@haraldgeiger59362 ай бұрын
Asmik is a incredible!
@natalijaargenta9594 ай бұрын
I saw Asmik Grigorian sing the role in Palermo where they set the opera in the space age.....it was truly hideous staging except for her magnificent performance. This set is equally grotesque in a different way. I hate these modern avant-garde directors ruining the beauty by their art gallery staging. I want to see epic sets as well as hear the singers. Such a tragedy.
@haraldgeiger59362 ай бұрын
Could not agree more.
@pitrescatorce162 ай бұрын
Lots of us are the same opinion.
@paoladatodi86262 ай бұрын
@@pitrescatorce16 grottesco per esempio con quei pupazzi, ma la recitazione, la regia mimica mi pare efficace. E'in chiave psicanalitica, Vienna la patria di Freud...i gesti di lei sono quelli di chi pian piano si libera dall'inibizione. Magari l'ultimissima scena non convince: hanno fretta, più lei (una volta disinibita...) che lui di ehm ehm..., senza tante cerimonie? o addirittura rinunciano al potere e vanno a vivere da persone comuni (ciò che darebbe luogo a nuovi problemi di Stato...)?
@michaelacuna7252Ай бұрын
I agree but I saw Netbreko at the Statsoper lin a space production. She was fine but her costumes worked against her. Dumb.
@user-vu3qv1wq7qАй бұрын
I went to the Staatsoper last night & found the production convincing & Grigorian was magnificent - the audience was delighted.
@user-gl3zk1dd3z4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing. I saw this twice at our beloved Staatsoper. She knocked it out of the park, if you like her. Yes, the staging and his form, but I really enjoyed it. And nice to see here. Thank you again.
@aliciasarramida6 ай бұрын
Wonderful!!! thank you for sharing ♥
@ingridtschirge66356 ай бұрын
Einfach nur wunderschön
@eugeniocattaneo25555 ай бұрын
Ascoltiamo con gli occhi chiusi...
@AnaLuiza-rl9eeАй бұрын
Exatamente 😢
@71559611 күн бұрын
Beautifully sung and acted! Excellent!!
@Dylonely42Ай бұрын
Astonishing duet !
@etienneprinsloo67995 ай бұрын
We were there, it was fantastic, enjoyed every second of the performance.
THATS A GREAT SCENE FRom TURANDOT SI WUDERFULL TENOR VOICE WOW ❤🙏🏻regard from DANMARK 🇩🇰
@PostinawayАй бұрын
Y'all haters are full of it! This is fantastic! ❤
@carinfoce96416 ай бұрын
Most enjoyable! Thanks!
@user-ec2wi8qd3s3 ай бұрын
I do not agree. Jonas is still one of the best. He has some better days. Nothing to do with his age...he has health problems and had to cancel many concerts...
@evakiseleva85702 ай бұрын
!!!
@evakiseleva85702 ай бұрын
Thank you for this opinion! Totally agree! The is one of the most fantastic timbres ever and tecnically very equipped but you need to catch him in his healthy days
@brunopicaude30925 ай бұрын
Encore une scénographie qui va s'ajouter à la liste des horreurs qui ne cesse plus de s'allonger.
@marioarkus69305 ай бұрын
La scénographie et toute la conception scénique.
@AndreEssen5 ай бұрын
@@marioarkus6930 ich kann noch die Inszenierung von Kosky in Amsterdam hinzufügen, wo ich mich wirklich geärgter habe, soviel Geld ausgegeben zu haben. Die Komplette Bühne war nur nach vorne nicht abgeschlossen, dementsprechend laut war es bei den Chören! Je peux aussi ajouter la production de Kosky à Amsterdam, où j'étais vraiment ennuyé d'avoir dépensé autant d'argent. La scène entière n'était pas fermée au public, donc les chœurs étaient bruyants !
@XPRT10R5 ай бұрын
It's quite impressive the way he manages to sound so throaty and so nasal at the same time.
@tg922775 ай бұрын
Both qualities fall under the same heading of "hardness", as Shakespeare would put it. It's pretty common to hear one accompanied by the other
@jefolson69892 ай бұрын
Haha, he could do with some forward placement, mask vibrations, whatever to brighten his voice and produce squillo. It seems to me his technique would be damaging and unsustainable. Muscular and confined to the mechanism plus some manufactured chest resonance. I have to commend him. Singing that way would quickly make hamburger out of most tenors.
@09lohengrin6 ай бұрын
Impressive!
@rosy33856 ай бұрын
Les voix sont belles évidemment mais quelle mise en scène minable !!! ça ne fait pas rêver une Turandot comme celle-ci dans une telle mise en scène !
@Culture_maven5 ай бұрын
I was dubious and saw it live and it worked. Whole thing was fabulous.
@PascalBrissaudАй бұрын
Turandot n’a rien qui doive faire “rêver”. Cette mise en scène, d’une rare profondeur psychologique, est aussi intelligente que sensible et cohérente.
@gamekilleuse918524 күн бұрын
@@PascalBrissaud évidemment ce n'est pas destiné à faire rêver ( comme tous les opéras de Puccini ) mais ce qu'elle veut dire , je suppose , c'est que c'est une mise en scène trop personnelle , qui neglige l'aspect de conte moral à l'origine de cet opus , tiré d'un conte asiatique . Rien d'étonnant, de nos jours, les metteurs en scène se mettant en scène d'abord. Dommageable dichotomie entre le talent des artistes et les caprices des metteurs en scene . ( Turandot est bien , mais j'en ai entendu une bien plus convaincante à l'opéra de Montpellier , ya 20 ans . Une voix de mezzo. qui prenait aux tripes )
@SilfredoSerrano5 ай бұрын
So, this is the original Alfano ending before it was sliced up.
@Yves_Ka5 ай бұрын
yes - however there are small omissions- At the end Turandot and Calaf should sing "Ertenita". There is a complete version here on YT: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h5ZpkteZqs2acXU.htmlsi=tii9gjlD_uPNyGQ8
@gonzalocuadra86575 ай бұрын
No, this is not the final escene by Alfano.
@Yves_Ka5 ай бұрын
@@gonzalocuadra8657 OK Wiseguy - so who do you think wrote the music???
@oscarjupither22945 ай бұрын
@@gonzalocuadra8657 Yes, it is the one and only original Alfano ending!
@vitanaumaviciene31752 ай бұрын
Labai nedėkinga yra Turandot bet kokiai solistei. Sunki tokia neaiškios pikčiurnos rolė, o ir partitūra tik balso drąskymas. Asmik atliko nuostabiai ir tarsi pateisino Turandot tokį šaltumą ir piktumą. Gaila, bet pasidžiaugti operos vizualu niekaip nepavyko.
@alessandrolombardi53394 ай бұрын
... and finally, after 100 years, the last enigma of Turandot has been solved ... finally well done!😅
@DucDeE4 ай бұрын
Do you mean the riddle of this cryptic production? Please tell me because I just can't solve it 😅
@foley325405Ай бұрын
I didn't know Ping, Pang and Pung had a cousin named Pong. Nice for him to drop in for the final scene.
@LubovKaretnikova3 ай бұрын
What a wonder!🎉❤ bravi!!!
@ilyeserzsebet29936 ай бұрын
Egyszerűen gyönyörű! Megható! Köszönöm!
@Olgaalwina5 ай бұрын
einfach enorme ....!
@filosoforvgsapereaude50203 ай бұрын
Esta ópera de Puccini pudo ser la mejor pero no la terminó. Gran obra
@SilfredoSerrano5 ай бұрын
Wait, which version of the finale is this? This doesn't sound like the standard. She's singing different notes...
@Yves_Ka5 ай бұрын
This is the original Alfano ending and not the Toscaninni edited version you most pobably know
@furrybear575 ай бұрын
@@Yves_Ka Call them Alfano I and Alfano II.....and I'll keep Alfano II
@bodiloto3 ай бұрын
Due voci poco adatte a questo repertorio, purtroppo. il vecchio
@karilamminpaa89875 ай бұрын
Unique in every way . Gratitudine !
@robertvandertoorn33065 ай бұрын
Enczenierung sieht aus ob man in Nord Korea ist
@delrimario5 ай бұрын
Muy buenos cantantes. La produccion y la Regie una mierda.
@josepacifico-mc9pr5 ай бұрын
Los cantantes PEOR que la producción
@sumiokuge4 ай бұрын
More dramatic, less operatic. I don't know whether I am excited at it or I am enjoying it, though I am satisfied. This stage may be something similar to the New Bayreuth of 1950s.
@AnaLuiza-rl9eeАй бұрын
Público é igrato ao criticar Jonas.. Ele já nos deu muito de si nos palcos...sem ele a ópera atual não tem sentido...
@fauredaniel574 ай бұрын
la hicieon con el mismo decorado de West Side Story, para ahorrar unos pesitos
@federicofielitz76736 ай бұрын
No conocía a Asmik Grigorian. Me encantó el el rol de Turandot y Jonas también.
@francescbartroli74855 ай бұрын
demasiado bajo para un PUCCINI.
@dgmelvin5 ай бұрын
Great singing and acting. I do hope that the odd stage design made more sense when seen in total. I found it quite distracting coming in at the end. But, what voices!
@nikashman57754 ай бұрын
I was amazing. The sets and costumes gave the sense of an oppressive regime, created by Turandot who was then trapped in it. Kaufmann's not the greatest actor, but I adore him. Grigorian was spectacular. And the score, just when you think it's getting a bit cacophonous you find tears pricking your eyes.
@user-pw7tn6js1x5 ай бұрын
Театр оперный должен не только радовать слух, заставлять переживать сюжет, но и давать определенные эмоции визуальные. В данном случае визуальные эмоции отрицательные, что накладывается и на восприятие всего остального действа. Очень жаль, что постановка вне времени, отсутствие соответствующих декораций и костюмов стали повсеместны в оперных театрах, лишая возможности погрузиться в определенную эпоху , связанную с сюжетом оперы. Этот спектакль именно такой и его не спасают даже знаменитые певцы.
@user-lk1zn5cm4z5 ай бұрын
this is NOT Turandot.
@Dylonely42Ай бұрын
6:44
@Dylonely42Ай бұрын
8:34
@ibnhazm5 ай бұрын
Creo que la pena de muerte debería establecerse temporalmente para algunos directores de escena.
@aci19705 ай бұрын
Y yo creo que la pena de muerte es por los comentarios exagerados en KZfaq. Como la hacemos? *Algunos commentan para no hacer otra cosa. Pena de muerte? En serio? Te parece que es algo apropiado de bromear?
@dianadainotto78174 ай бұрын
@@aci1970es en sentido figurado ☺
@aci19704 ай бұрын
@@dianadainotto7817 Como? No es en serio? Y yo que creía...🙄
@minodoraroman88643 ай бұрын
😂😂😂bravissimo.
@micky4fun2 ай бұрын
Being a progressive thinking individual, I find this to be an interesting re-interpretation of the famous opera. But, sorry, but I think I will stick to the more traditional versions of Turandot. P.S.: I am a great Jonas Kaufmann fan.
@kurtgarmaker37194 ай бұрын
Both are very good. But they should not be dinging this opera.. it tears the throat out. Callas sang this role often in the beginning and she did not like it and hoped that it would not ruin her voice . That's a big red stop sign . As a matter of fact tell me one Puccini opera ( and God knows I love him) that is good for your voice .
@music03264 ай бұрын
My favourite, Manon Lescaut :)
@gerontius36 ай бұрын
This is pretty wonderful. Asmik's acting is absolutely Oscar worthy (as usual). Kaufmann is also quite good though of course I imagine this with Asmik and Franco Corelli...................
@user-ec2wi8qd3s3 ай бұрын
She does not have the voice of a "principessa di gelo"...
@lillacacchione24295 ай бұрын
Bravissimi 👏👏👏
@breizhmabroy5 ай бұрын
c pénible lui vraiment, tant à écouter que regarder. elle magnifique, effortless
@chantalbeckmann80225 ай бұрын
ce n' est pas un rôle pour lui....il faut réécouter P. Domingo et dans une mise en scène autrement plus enthousiasmante ( au Met )
@art76955 ай бұрын
Kaufmann is a great singer in german repertoire but in italian operas is voice doesn't match similar results. Grigorian is not Turandot (Caballé too has sung Turandot and my comment at that time was the same) but is one of the few great singers . Let's hope she doesn't destroy her voice with wrong repertoire. Grigorian, in any case, much better than Kaufmann .
@JamesPortoraro4 ай бұрын
I forgot to say "cheap"
@enricoluccarini36263 ай бұрын
Those two don't come cheap! Nor does the stage director.
@orientaldagger69205 ай бұрын
The music is terrible? This is Puccini? Sounds like Alban Berg.
@masonevans7794 ай бұрын
Funny you mention that… Puccini was slightly influenced by the second Vienense school, which Berg was part of. You can hear this influence during the first act of the opera with the use of atonality during the scene where all the spirits of the dead princes are trying to warn Calaf. Moreover, Turandot was premiered in 1924, around the same time as Wozzeck. With that being said, this is an edited version of the original Alfano ending (because Puccini died before finishing the score as I am sure you know) which is very theatrical compared to later Toscanini approved version.
@orientaldagger69204 ай бұрын
@@masonevans779 I suppose when you are dead no one can stop some other hack from finishing your work. It just sounds weird and doesn't follow Puccini's music. You go from Nessun Dorma to this? Come on.
@elizabethwallace7495Ай бұрын
Beautiful singing--weirdest stage production every imagined1
@vickiw33354 ай бұрын
What a hideous production. I love that Asmik is doing Butterfly but I think Turandot is not the right choice for her yet. She needs to protect her incredible gift. She is already adding heavier roles too soon IMHO. She is a great artist!!
@josecarrerastema86543 ай бұрын
Che regia orribile,ma perché?
@CarlosDIASPRO5 ай бұрын
Si no fuera por la música ésta opera hubiera fracasado,no entiendo quién es el ignorante que hizo ésta puesta,creo que si hubiera estado en el teatro me levanto y pido me devuelvan el importe de mi ticket, debería haber pena de muerte para los directores de escena, escenógrafo incluido.
@elisaalvarezbeca15495 ай бұрын
Awful production😢 good singers ,not so good for Jonas this Calaf. ❤
@ESilva-qv1uv5 ай бұрын
Awful production and singers far from their fach. Pity Asmin has decided to sing Turandot. Not for her. Jonas is throaty, with that voce ingolata. Not good, sorry to say that. I love both singers, though.
@coragazmen70734 ай бұрын
Terrible production,how could they modernize a beautiful opera like this,if it is not Jonas singing,it would be a flop,even Jonas looks like he is bewildered and asmik can sing but her acting is so so.I was thinking going to see it in June but coming from Canada would not be worth it.sorry I was waiting for Jonas as calaf but this production doesn’t suit him at all. 13:18
@user-ir8is3wy8tАй бұрын
А я поеду!😊
@GarethRickards4 ай бұрын
Horrible production, a soprano who should have been singing Liu, and a woeful Kaufmann, far past his sell-by date.
@enricoluccarini36263 ай бұрын
The Liu was Alagna's pretty little Russian wife.
@barbarachmielewska32333 ай бұрын
@@enricoluccarini3626 Aleksandra Kurzak is POLISH, not Russian!!!
@MsCollin112 ай бұрын
@@barbarachmielewska3233 she is not too good either.......
@t.alajosvarga61755 ай бұрын
Blödsinn!!
@javierrosell77824 ай бұрын
Bien Kauffman siempre tuvo problemas técnicos con su voz pero el público oyente no apreciaba esos errores que con el tiempo le traerían problemas con su voz y en esta ópera se le nota forzado y cansado y pierde la línea melódica de esta ópera y la soprano ni que hablar para esta obra la soprano tiene que tener un poco de fuerza y color de mezzosoprano pero hasta el coro se siente desgastado esta ópera bien conocida por su famosa aria Nessun Dorma es muy fuerte esta presentación no cubren buenos comentarios una puesta en escena que es una falta de respeto a los que aprecian el arte de la lírica mis respetos a sus comentarios esta es mi opinión pero no supera a la versión de Corelli y la Nilsson
@lz43p155 ай бұрын
Corelli Nilson per ora non raggiungibili specie x Kaufmann
@user-qv6sg6ku5v6 ай бұрын
Pressed and strangled voice. Just a constant squeeze. If Jonas Kaufmann had made his debut in Turandot earlier, he would have been a wonderful Calaf. Now he is too old for this role because his voice no longer has the clarity and brilliance it once did. What a pity !
@marinacaracciolo59406 ай бұрын
Eppure ha avuto un successo straordinario, un motivo ci sarà... Il suo è un Calaf maturo, la sua voce è bronzea, ancora e sempre mirabile. La sua resta una eccellente prestazione e interpretazione.
@minodoraroman88646 ай бұрын
Il publicco e spesso snob.
@ghislaineaerts23305 ай бұрын
Subliem
@ghislaineaerts23305 ай бұрын
Sublime vertolking Proficiat
@meisterwue5 ай бұрын
You are right about Mr Kaufmann.....more than right. And Mrs Grigorian is no real principessa di morte
@pitrescatorce162 ай бұрын
Puccini would be offended by such an awful setting!
@Shahrdad4 ай бұрын
I like her, but he just bellows.
@JamesPortoraro4 ай бұрын
Here we go with the stupid sets and idiotic costumes. Poor Puccini. Total lack of respect. Apparently designing awful "modern" sets guarantees success. Shame on Vienna
@thomasdahlen85335 ай бұрын
Terrible production and bad singers , Kaufmann and Grigorian are overestimated singes in these roles.Marton , Carreras and Riciarelli with Maazel were lovely to hear and see.Corelli and Nilsson , superstars between 1959 to 1973 are still best of singers in Turandot.This is Scheisse as they say i german.Who pays a lot of money for this ?
@ESilva-qv1uv5 ай бұрын
You are so right. I've made a similar comment.
@aci19705 ай бұрын
People who are not stuck in 20th century?
@kurtgarmaker37194 ай бұрын
Marton burned her voice out with this role. She did not have a good high C after this opera . So don't offer her up as a better singer than this singer in this video.
@josepacifico-mc9pr5 ай бұрын
DIOS MIO, PERO QUE ESPANTO!!!!!, empezando por los "" cantantes TERROFICAMENTE ESPANTOSOS, y lo demás, bueno, SIN PALABRAS!!!!!....
@Porn05Mouth5 ай бұрын
It absolutely SUCKS that Asmik and Jonas didn’t sing the descant at the end for the broadcast. I saw them live on 22 December where they DID sing it (as verified by house recording), and I nearly fell out of my seat because it was so thrilling. Was monumentally bummed to watch the broadcast only for them to stop singing completely after her “Il suo nome è amore.” At least audio exists I guess. Jonas was in much better voice on 22 December than on 16 December when this was broadcast, apparently. Asmik is a triumph in this role. Her acting is incomparable to any Turandot I’ve ever seen. Glad there’s a video (even if it’s not perfect).
@wuaaron8082 ай бұрын
barely adequate for Liu.
@Jjjjjjjm5 ай бұрын
Kaufmann is too old,how the hell is he going to sing Enzo in Gioconda with this voice.
@kurtgarmaker37194 ай бұрын
Gioconda is not Turandot. This opera should not be sung by any singer who cares about their voice
@theslof1Ай бұрын
Could some one please explain the staging? A blonde, ble eyed Chinese in a mini skirt, and who are those four masked creatures?