Yeah my experience has been the exact opposite. Don’t get me wrong, there are a shit ton of things I love about turkey, it’s culture, history, art, food etc etc. and I have Turkish friends. but doing business with them has been such a pain. They are impatient and even rude if you don’t pay them immediately (several times I bought from Turkish store online and they canceled my purchase because I didn’t pay as it was something like 3am in the morning and I didn’t immediately receive their link to pay so I decided to you know, go to sleep and pay when I wake up. And when I complained, they said (and I’m quoting): “nobody waits to pay for more than two hours, I hope you are awake now!”, no joke, they are THIS rude if anything is even slightest in their inconvenience) they are angry at you if you ask too many questions about their item (if for example you want a money back guarantee regarding authenticity of materials, because of the hassle in returns which usually is not possible, at least without losing a shit ton of your money), and they will flat out refuse to take any responsibilities if anything goes wrong on their end (if they promised to make you certain things then told you sorry they actually can’t). Basically, they are all smiles and friendliness when they get your money in their pockets as fast as possible, but it’s all a front. They are not honest people by a long shot, certainly not comparing to most Europeans and Americans, I had better experiences with Chinese and Indians in fact than Turkish businessmen, and I LIKE stuff from turkey! What a shame.

S SN QN um...where has turkey said they are proud of their history regarding slavery? They are proud of their accomplishments, in creating a wealthy and vast empire during a time when virtually everybody was trying to do that. I happen to know Turks are very aware of all the dark side of their past. Just for example watch their series magnificent century, the most popular series regarding their greatest sultan-suleiman the magnificent. It was the most popular series for a reason-it showed both the good and bad side and all of its consequences of the Ottoman Empire and its accomplishments. The west is actually too beta from this perspective. No other country apologizes for past crimes when virtually all powerful nations are doing it. Japan is not apologizing for the Nanking massacre, nobody bats an eye, South Africa is not apologizing for its white genocide, nobody cares. The only reason why we even care about black slavery or the Jewish genocide, is that these subjects have been shoved in our faces. Otherwise we be all moved on. The attitude would be: yeah okay that was a bad idea, now let’s move on, which is literally what everywhere else except the west is doing. And that will be the undoing of the west. It’s time they learn to stand up for themselves

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Catherine Duncan hi how r u? do u like to see my collection of rugs?

Thank you. I enjoyed making it.

Thank you so much for sharing your experience, Norman. I'm encouraged to hear you have good memories and a beautiful carpet.

Because Persian carpets are the real deal, the original shit and not some low quality ugly shit from Anatolia. "Turkish carpet" wtf is that?

​​​@@marmary5555 The oldest carpet in the world is the Pazirik carpet found in the Ural Altai mountains. The best and oldest carpets are Turkish carpets. It is the Turks who ruled Iran for 1000 years. Don't be jealous stupid😂

@@marmary5555check 25:36 Hereke Turkish is the best you will get in the world just a magic carpet

The best thing is to go to a few different shops and let them answer all your questions. I do love the deep reds of the Turkmen rugs.

Silk rugs are expensive, but they won't trigger your allergies. I am allergic to wool but the Turkish rugs I own (wool on wool) do not bother me. I can't wear wool but having it hanging on the wall or walking on it does not bother me.

Anyone who is familiar with natural fibers can easily tell the difference between wool and silk fibers - even though there is a lot of variation in the quality available in both natural fibers (probably more variation exists in wool, from different types, breeds, regions, how managed, weather, how processed, etc). You cannot carry a lab with you, but Yocom-McColl Testing Laboratories in Colo, USA can test the fiber for you. Othewise, train your eye and hand - look closely and handle many different natural fibers from different sources, processed and dyed using different methods, and you will soon be able to tell silk from wool, even the finer wools, with no problem. You can visit fiber festivals, aka sheep& wool festivals, or shops that cater to the discriminating fiber artist, handspinners, weavers, etc (not chain shops) and see and handle different fibers and different grades of wool, etc.

Like learning to distinguish between wool and silk, with a little practive, it is not difficult to tell the difference between a good rug and an exceptionally well-made one. Go to rug shops and look, look, look! Always look at the back. It is easy to tell at a glance if a rug is machine made, but looking at many, many rugs and carpets over time will educate your eye - especially if you have the chance to shop at a reputable dealer - they will have their rugs properly identified and appropriately priced.

BTW - it is more difficult for most people to tell the difference between chemical fibers, especially 'synthetic silk' aka 'Rayon' and similar fibers than it is to tell the difference between wool and silk. Keep in mind that carpet wools often have more luster than the wool commonly available for knitting. Many carpet wool breeds have longer wool, and most are coarser, though it may feel smoother to the fingertips (still, carpet wool is NOT generally suitable for garments!).

I've read some books mainly the one written by a British author on Persian carpets. The problem with these old books is the dearth of illustrations, and if there are photos, they're all black and white. I'm still looking for a youtuber who have both the knowledge and collection to showcase the visual qualities that a novice can quickly learn from. I've visited a lot of carpet shops, mainly run by Middle Easterners, and can say that 90% of them straight out lie to me about quality and origin. I'm not an expert but can now tell a quality rug from a mediocre rug from a mass produced synthetic rug. There is no standardization in pricing and no government body established to qualify the advertised claims of many dealers.

@@Justmyopinionlol You might want to read "Oriental Carpets: A Complete Guide" by Murray L. Island Jr. and III."

For sure. He started by saying you can’t get 100 dollars rugs? Yes you can! Small ones! Actually if you spend 10,000 that’s already a lot. Most large vintage ones range around 300-800 dollars. However if you buy new then obviously it will be about a bit more than twice that price, but still not this crazy price range he quoted. Buy them online, because then you can get a sense of the actual market and you won’t be ripped off so easily because on sites like eBay and Etsy there’s buyer protection, anything you use PayPal to pay also will have buyer protection so it’s much safer. People have to understand that carpets are an intricate part of a Muslim’s life, therefore it’s as common as chopsticks are in China. So lots of people make it which will drive the price down. It’s a common commodity, not something that’s considered a rare collectible or even necessarily luxury item. Some carpets are no doubt very expensive, but most of them are in fact very affordable. Don’t be fooled by the haggling and you’ll be fine.

Thank you for your kind and helpful comments. They show what a asset to society you really are, emphasis on the first three letters of asset.

Hummmmm, did I ever say anything about selling it? Noooo. What I said was, "I just what to know if it is really handmade, and if so, where it is from, and what it is worth." So if you can't help with any of that information, you might as well as stop the useless comments.

This is crazy. I know it is common to go on youtube and spew venom, but please stop doing it here. The judgment is not needed or helpful. Mirage790- Are you in Turkey? I'm sure someone here could tell verify the authenticity of your rug. I don't know how you can find out without someone seeing it in person. Sorry, I can't be of more help.

Emily, thank you for your suggestion. I realize someone has to see it in person to examine it properly but no I am not in Turkey.However, I found a reputable carpet dealer within a days drive that deals in these rugs. When I have the chance, I will take my rug to him to look at. From my online research I believe it is a Malayer probably from the early 20th century. I doubt it is older than that. I will be interested to bring it in and see what he has to say about it! Thank you for your information.

I have found that any rug dealer will give you a quick answer to those questions you are asking for free. If you want an appraisal, that will cost you. You can also look at most books on Oriental carpets and perhaps answer your questions, especially whether it is machine made or hand woven. You may find you are bitten by the bug and will soon spend more than your $30 to start your collection.

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You have to unframe the idea of nation states when it comes to art and craft.

+paul austin , never buy Persian Carpets and Rugs in an auction, usually the carpets that are ofered in an auction are of a poor quality, worn outs and in bad conditions, the ones that can´t be sold in a store, remember that only in Iran there are more than 10,000 cities, villeges or places that produce carpets,

Yet it is part of Iranic culture. Not Turkic. The Pazyrik carpets had Iranic Zoroastrian and Mithraic motifs & symbols, still widely used on Persian carpets. Just deal with it.

Sure, silver is usually more fashionable than gold ;-) It’s like: I rather choose murano glass than actual natural crystal or diamond

The oldest carpet in the world is the Pazirik carpet found in the Ural Altai mountains. The best and oldest carpets are Turkish carpets. It is the Turks who ruled Iran for 1000 years.Persians are jealous😂

bullshit !

idiot Farhad, lol u look like a dirty car salesman , if I'm honest

@@NYorkin & @King Kong Both of you are clearly pretty clueless about the art of carpet weaving and carpets period. Even carpet sellers in Turkey *know* damn well that Persian (Iranian) carpets are the absolute most beautiful and have the highest quality and thus are the most expensive. Turks make Qelim/Kelim carpets which have absolutely no value in Iran and elsewhere . Qelim/Kelim is of cheap quality and doesn't have any real value. I mean both of you need a pair of glasses if you think Turkish Anatolian carpets look better than Persian carpets. Its like comparing a Chinese counterfeit to an original. Even the man in the video is contantsly saying that the carpets are from "Easten Anatolia " and that they are Kurdish. Newsflash: Kurds are Iranic peoples which makes them closest to Persians. Your ignorance is THAT comical *Go educate yourself*

Thank you for asking these insightful questions (I'll answer both comments here). * The shop I went to for this video is trustworthy. I had a great experience with them. In the end you are at the mercy of the salesman. If you don't feel like you can trust them, than walk away because you will get ripped off. I have heard horror stories although not in Cappadocia. Personally, I would avoid the big shops that receive all the tourist buses. They are looking for a certain kind of customer and have to deal with high commissions. * Source- the problem with going straight to the source is that the source is fading quickly. One part I left out of this video was the host telling me about how the art was becoming extinct. Less and less girls are learning the craft. You used to be able to go into the mountain villages and find amazing carpets in every home and now very few are left. It is not a requirement for getting married anymore among other changes in culture and economy. So, this means that these old carpet collectors/shops are the only places you can find these authentic homemade carpets. Of course, this means that the price/value will increase faster in the coming years. * In my experience it is not that difficult to differentiate silk and wool carpets. Maybe I have been deceived? I think the keys are being informed (what I have tried to do a little in this video), looking at lots of different carpets in different shops, and then finding a place you can trust (this will be more intuition than anything). Once you have picked one and paid for it, stop shopping and you won't have to deal with buyer's remorse! I hope this helps a bit. Let me know if you have more questions. Remember, in the end, if you are happy with your purchase, then you got a good deal; enjoy it (and don't let anyone ruin it for you).

Duke Dillard I am trying to buy a few pieces so I own several books dealing with carpets from various nations and the producing tribes in each one. Notably, Turkey, Tibet, India, Pakistan, and China all have their own books written by well established authors, mainly from the UK. With the more recent publications, esp. after 2000, I gained the valuable insight that many of the "new" carpets are actually much better made than the ones of vintage or even antique provenance. This is why Turkey (new techniques and return to vegetable dyes) and Tibet (new funding and an eager Chinese market) now have a good reputation for their products. So nearly all new carpets made after 2010 are commercial production, esp. the higher quality pieces, which are mainly "private commissions" with design inputs from the high end carpet dealers in America and Europe. What this is means is that "history/heritage" isn't really relevant anymore, since the best Persian weavers work in Pakistan and the best dyers and tanneries work in Turkey/Europe to supply the Turkish/Tibetian/Pakistani, etc weavers. The story of carpet is very similar the story of cigars, both luxury products subjected to the whims of politics and wars. I think I will only buy new pieces since in today's terms that ensures more authenticity and better investment. What I am still annoyed is the relative ease to which a dealer slices off several thousands on a high end carpet. They either got them for very cheap or I am overpaying.

Justmyopinionlol Very interesting. I did not know this and I am not sure it is true in Cappadocia with the local places turning out new carpets in workshop settings with mixed quality. I would take the older unique ones over the newer ones that I have seen. But I may be wrong. I am unclear on whether you are talking about shops in foreign countries or also in places like Cappadocia? I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge- very helpful.

Turkey poor and underdeveloped. You serious!? Proportionally speaking they are more developed and rich than the USA.

If you bring that kind of arrogance and ignorace to Turkey you might get your ass handed to you instead of a carpet.

Turkish carpets' uniqeness is about knot technique. Only Turkish carpets have double knots. Persian carpets have single knot. Double knot is more durable.

The oldest carpet in the world is the Pazirik carpet found in the Ural Altai mountains. The best and oldest carpets are Turkish carpets. It is the Turks who ruled Iran for 1000 years.Persians are jealous😂

Türk halıları tamamen el ile dokunarak yapılır. İran halıları tek düğümlü iken Türk halıları çift düğümlüdür. Orta Asya, İran ve Anadolu'ya kadar Türklerle birlikte yaşayan bir sanattır. Bugün İran halılarının en yoğun olduğu Tebriz şehri tamamıyla Türktür. Güney Azerbaycan özerk bölgesi. Bunları öğrenin sonra konuşun aptal herifler 😂

@@Turanid.209Turan haklısın da hakaret etmeseydin sana like atacaktım

​@@efeefe9323Yav acayip can sıkıyorlar herşeyi sahiplenmekle. Düşün ki taaa Kazakistan'da bulunan dünyanın en eski halısı olan Pazırık halısına bile hemencecik İran halısı diyorlar. Ayrıca bu anasını sattığımın İran'ın da bir tek Farisiler de yaşamadı :)

Stupid ass idiot. Double knots are low quality in carpet weaving technique.

kittens😻 interesting. Please educate us what would be a superior weaving technique

@@luceafarul579 I am still waiting for sone lessons from kittens

No way

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The oldest carpet in the world is the Pazirik carpet found in the Ural Altai mountains. The best and oldest carpets are Turkish carpets. It is the Turks who ruled Iran for 1000 years.Persians are jealous😂

@@Turanid.209 Oh yesssss🤣 The Pazyrik carpet found in Russia is Turkish? Or turkey 🦃😂 Atatürk told Reza Shah that we Turks are forced to create a fake history and language. But not so much my son😁😎 Mohammad Raulallah was also a Turk?😁 Achaemenid and ancient Roman artifacts have been discovered in Turkey, are you Persian and Italian?😜 What is Ferdowsi? Was he also Turkish? Keep looking to falsify history Turkey's history making factory #fidevsi #şehname

@@Turanid.209 In addition, this carpet was discovered in Altai. What are you Turks doing in this region and West Asia? Shouldn't you be in Mongolia. Did you come for a sightseeing tour?😂 Ask your fathers, like ILBER ORTAILI, where Iran is, who are Iranians and how many thousands of years old they are. Your history in this region started from the Melazgerd war, which means almost seven hundred years ago😂 700 years 😂 I don't see a mention of Turkey and Turks in the meeting of the ten ancient civilizations of the world🤣 10 Oldest Country in the world 😁😜

​@@siavashtabrizjustiran4ever579 Stupid man Turks have a history of at least 4000 years. It is a nation living in the Altai mountains and Ötüken in Central Asia. Even our language is from the Ural-Altaic language family. The probability that the carpet found in the Ural Altai is a Persian carpet is zero. What are you Iranians looking for in the Ural Altai? We ruled Iran for more than 1000 years. You lived in our culture. Iranian civilization is a great civilization. As İlber Ortaylı said. But that doesn't mean everything is yours. We are a great nation that has established great states and kingdoms. Then we carried this culture to Anatolia. We have spread to large geographies. You couldn't leave Iran. Admit it slave 😁 By the way, more than half of the Mongolian army was Turkish. That Saka Turk who kicked you was also a Turk, Tomris Hatun 😁

​@@siavashtabrizjustiran4ever579 Even the city of Tabriz, where Iranian carpets are sold the most, is Turkish. completely Turks. Southern Azerbaijan. Do you understand ? let's cry somewhere else😭😂

Exactly!

Persian carpets are generally too old fashioned and stereotypically oriental designed. But there are some that are very beautiful. Turkish ones are more uniquely designed I would say.