Turning a Les Paul's thick D shaped neck into a smaller Stratocaster's C shape

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Jamie Surette

Jamie Surette

5 жыл бұрын

Jamie John sands away and re-profiles a Gibson Les Paul's neck into a thinner profile

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@Quantumface
@Quantumface 2 жыл бұрын
Every day that a Les Paul neck is cured is a good day haha.
@richardbelleau
@richardbelleau Жыл бұрын
Very nice work....a labour of love
@montag4516
@montag4516 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your work. I can only guess that the owner is thrilled after the transformation, they're probobly playing it right now.
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. And you are correct -He really wasn't playing it before, and now plays it a lot more due to the right feel. Made to be played !!!
@flamedmahoganytable9749
@flamedmahoganytable9749 Жыл бұрын
⁠​⁠@@feliceconte123 if you go through the gibson custom shop, the thinnest you can get is the V3 neck. IIRC its pretty close dimension wise. I’ve also seen some les paul standard 60’s that reach the oval C specs. You’re probably still gonna have more shoulder but you just gotta look around.
@DS-nw4eq
@DS-nw4eq Жыл бұрын
Ugh… questioning the owners judgement. Find another guitar, don’t ruin that one. They make different models, lol.
@andtothewestamerica
@andtothewestamerica 4 жыл бұрын
Really nice. I just got bought a neck from someone that had every spec I was looking for but is 0.9, where my other guitars are more like 0.86. It's only finished with tru oil so I wasn't too intimidated but, still, it's inspiring to see someone come out with such a beautiful result.
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you !!
@raychavezmt
@raychavezmt 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, looks great
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Thanks!!!
@jimilee8979
@jimilee8979 2 жыл бұрын
WOW Excellent job............. Thanks for Sharing...............you are Blessed....
@tomsexton4880
@tomsexton4880 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Thank you for the lesson , I appreciate your craftsmanship.
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks and you're welcome !
@nickangelica
@nickangelica 2 жыл бұрын
agreed.
@tomsexton4880
@tomsexton4880 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job. Thank you for sharing.
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome !
@sporkcrx
@sporkcrx 4 жыл бұрын
Looks great. I have an epi explorer that kills my hand so I’m going to try this
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck with it!!!! Stewmac now sells templates like the ones I made, of various makes and models.www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/Tools_by_Job/Tools_for_Necks_and_Fingerboards/Neck_Shaping_Templates_for_Electric_Guitar.html
@johnyblamounth9142
@johnyblamounth9142 3 жыл бұрын
Good job mate
@AdamStephenTaylor
@AdamStephenTaylor Жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce Жыл бұрын
Thanks For watching !
@sonysoni5079
@sonysoni5079 8 ай бұрын
Hi. Great and very informative video! Thank you so much .
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 8 ай бұрын
You're welcome !
@dannythemedic
@dannythemedic 2 жыл бұрын
thanks, I got a new epi SG custom, and the neck feels weird, but I love the front! LOL gonna be doing this
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck with it ! Thanks for watching !
@carlosclaptrix
@carlosclaptrix Жыл бұрын
Great! I love slim necks like Ibanez Wizards. So I sanded down a Harley Benton and a Kramer Assault. But I have still to go a little more on them.
@86TDC
@86TDC Жыл бұрын
How did this turn out? I have a Kramer SM1 that I wanna sand down too.
@scottconnors8419
@scottconnors8419 4 жыл бұрын
look mom no scarf joint.haha..what grit did you start w the long fabric paper???my necks black on guitar so hoping maples okay underneath,but I wanna go for it..looks nice great job..
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
Hi thanks....I started with 120 grit of P grade paper. So if you see the letter P, that means the grit is very even and you'll likely pay a bit more for it.
@larrycortner6321
@larrycortner6321 Жыл бұрын
Nice job ! I just bought a new accoustic and it's hard to play clean with the big ass neck . So I'm going to try to make it like my strat neck .I had a strat once that had a hard to play neck and took a sander too it .
@Archtops
@Archtops 2 жыл бұрын
Great job! Liked and subbed!
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much !!!
@ManfredElsingBielefeld
@ManfredElsingBielefeld 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice,man!Would you can do this for my guitar too???No,joke!I did it by myselfe in 3 sessions and the result is more then i expected,wonderful!I did this on a Harley Benton Aeolus Bengal Flame,and now it´s so much better than before!Without the lack!Nice C-profile and a very nice design;eingeleimter Hals: gerösteter Riegelahorn!!!It looks and feels fantastic!
@bkul44
@bkul44 5 жыл бұрын
great job
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 5 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@scottconnors8419
@scottconnors8419 4 жыл бұрын
what about the binding?did you tape it? and does it blend in w out lip on the outer sides by binding?**it looks like it has binding this guitar?***I just got a sweet deal $36 vintage brand Les Paul ,necks way fat n I'd like to shave her down as your found,tough to do certain useful chords w it being too wide n chunky..but my binding has a aged look n I don't wanna fudge up the curb appeal, any ideas,best $36 guitar I ever had,put mini humbuckers,cts pits good caps 50,s wired,n put $30 set Grover mini tuners I like better than big tulip knobs n faux Jade always despised them tuners klusons I guess ..I've done this on few guitars but never bound neck..I didn't catch ehat oil your using(type wise)..I like bare wood necks,once your hand oils do the polishing n really gets very fast for leads..nice vid thanks reply be helpful..winter project yes. .
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't tape it but I was careful in this area. If your binding is white and has aged nicely then you don't want to sand it. If you do then Stewmac.com sells a "Straw" stain that looks good when ageing white binding.
@Bearschoice
@Bearschoice 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there. I’ve got a “vintage” fender strat reissue with a “thick C” neck profile. How much might this service cost near me? I want it to play like my other strat. Thanks
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 3 жыл бұрын
took me 5-6 hours (X whatever your guy charges per hour)
@edigabrieli7864
@edigabrieli7864 3 жыл бұрын
How much a job like that cost? Thanks!
@benjaminubayyed1865
@benjaminubayyed1865 Жыл бұрын
I really want to do this exact thing to my LP. But I had a bad refret once so i'm terrified to have someone do this because other than the neck being too fat I love how it plays.
@vladimirpoutine7522
@vladimirpoutine7522 Жыл бұрын
If it's a Gibson then the resale value should be fine. Maybe sell it for a Classic?
@cugir321
@cugir321 4 жыл бұрын
I have a FG710-s yamaha that sounds incredible but has terrible D type neck....shoulders are uncomfortable. Neck is very thin with sharp shoulders. I'm a little worried that even if I just take a bit off the shoulders I may make the neck less stable....it's thin. I want to just round them a little.
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
These are handy www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/Tools_by_Job/Tools_for_Necks_and_Fingerboards/Neck_Shaping_Templates_for_Electric_Guitar.html - and may help with your decision.
@blues4jesus
@blues4jesus 2 ай бұрын
So I have a Slash Epiphone Firebird that the neck is D shaped, It felt fine when I played it to buy it but the longer I played it I started getting thumb pain, its the shoulders on the D shape of the neck. I could do the same as you do on it correct? Except what would you recommend for getting past the poly coat? ( I know patience and sanding) I wouldn't think using any chemicals as that would mess up the binding, Did you use grain filler on the neck or just applied the True Oil?
@Stratisfied22
@Stratisfied22 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice work that came out looking very nice. Did you only use sand paper the entire time to take away material?
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks -Yes only sandpaper, with the exception of a card scraper on the finish, in spots, but otherwise only sandpaper.
@Stratisfied22
@Stratisfied22 4 жыл бұрын
Jamie Surette Thanks for the response I appreciate it.. I just put together a Strat kit and the neck is too meaty for me and this helps a lot. Take care bud.
@mcgreen0
@mcgreen0 4 жыл бұрын
I would love mine done but I can not do that
@abstract0014
@abstract0014 9 ай бұрын
How difficult/easy would you say this job was? I am thinking of doing a overhaul on my epiphone les paul as my preferences have changed so one of the changes I want to do is make the neck less fat and more like a strat or my jackson.
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 9 ай бұрын
Quite easy if you have the right measuring tools. Here are some templates you could buy of common shapes.www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/tools-by-job/tools-for-necks-and-fingerboards/neck-shaping-templates-for-electric-guitar/. Stewmac also sells lacquers, so if your neck is Mahogany you would pore fill first, but if it's maple you could spray right from an aerosol can, some of which are tinted. If you heat the can in a bath of hot water before spraying it will spray like a dream. Good luck ! www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/supplies/finishing-supplies/colors-and-tints-and-stains/colortone-tinted-aerosol-guitar-lacquer/
@bobaldo2339
@bobaldo2339 5 жыл бұрын
With all that sanding, how do you manage not to remove the side position markers (dots)?
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 5 жыл бұрын
Not much sanding at all happens on the sides ,so the position markers remain safe. Good question and an important concern though.
@rferguson3
@rferguson3 Ай бұрын
Side markers are almost always, at least a heavy 1/8” - 1/4”, this you’d basically have to sand too much before it’d even present itself as a problem.
@yourcodenameiskevin
@yourcodenameiskevin 2 ай бұрын
Would a neck or headstock repair prevent one from sanding down their guitar’s neck exactly as you did here? I don’t have any info on the repair but based on what I can see it doesn’t look like the repair/repaired crack extends to any portion of the neck; mostly on the headstock and the area where the head meets the neck that you did some fine tuning on. Thanks.
@timbeaulac7968
@timbeaulac7968 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work. I'm considering getting this done to a Dean ML with a bit of a baseball bat for a neck. Does sanding it down like this change integrity of the neck? ie. being more susceptible to temperature change/ needing neck adjustments more often? -Thanks.
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
The integrity of the neck shouldn't change with this kind of alteration as we are keeping the size of a Strat in this case. If you go too thin then it's a chance you take . I can't help but think the tone will change slightly from a thicker neck to a thinner neck. Your last question is a really good one - one I would like to know the answer myself. My guess is that it would need more frequent adjustment ,if it's just a wooden neck and truss rod, but if it's reinforced with titanium or carbon fibre, they don't require truss rod adjustments that often. If you get it done you should write back in time and let me know the differences. Thanks and good luck!!!
@timbeaulac7968
@timbeaulac7968 4 жыл бұрын
Jamie Surette thanks for the response. If I get it done I will let you know what I find.
@johndiaz1024
@johndiaz1024 Жыл бұрын
How much might someone expect a service like this to cost?
@Socializedbyantisocials
@Socializedbyantisocials 8 ай бұрын
Hi, can I use mineral oil to finish a neck? Thank you
@rook2759
@rook2759 Жыл бұрын
I love this. Would this affect the structural integrity of the neck, making it more prone to the dreaded Gibson headstock snap?
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce Жыл бұрын
Not enough material is removed from that area in this case......but it's still as prone as ever for this headstock snap. I have a Gibson eds1275 from 1982 that has the neck volutes .They don't get in the way and they really reinforce this area of the neck/headstock. I wonder if most people didn't like them or it added to much time/cost in the manufacturing?
@rook2759
@rook2759 Жыл бұрын
@@Barringtonjohnbruce I would much rather have the Volutes as an insurance policy on my investment. I couldn't care less about how the back of the guitar neck looks. I bet you are right, fussy customers probably shelved that feature. Keep making great videos!
@jaymolinaro5836
@jaymolinaro5836 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jamie, where do you think I could send my Les Paul to get this done? Do you have a shop?
@michaelhanson7735
@michaelhanson7735 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, have a 84 Gibson custom that I would love for him to do my les Paul just like he did with that one, neck looked sweet!
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 2 жыл бұрын
I'm mostly a hobbyist in an area flooded with musicians, so I keep busy locally here in Nova Scotia. Maybe a face book search on a guitar site in your area would get you testimonials, on some of the most trusted luthiers. Good luck and thanks for watching.
@jduncanm3golf
@jduncanm3golf 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and nice work. What are your thoughts on converting it to a thin "D" shape by just standing the center flag and leaving the shoulders pretty much as is?
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks . That would be fine as long as you are careful. Stewmac sells templates that are helpful if you find one in the dimensions that you want.www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/Tools_by_Job/Tools_for_Necks_and_Fingerboards/Neck_Shaping_Templates_for_Electric_Guitar.html
@jduncanm3golf
@jduncanm3golf 4 жыл бұрын
@@Barringtonjohnbruce thanks. What oil did you use to finish and seal it?
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
@@jduncanm3golf www.stewmac.com/Materials_and_Supplies/Finishing_Supplies/Finishes_and_Solvents/Tried_and_True_Original_Wood_Finish.html
@Stormcloakvictory
@Stormcloakvictory 5 жыл бұрын
I kinda want this on my lp too now xp
@lifegoeson2183
@lifegoeson2183 3 жыл бұрын
Well get it done then 😊
@silverjaw138
@silverjaw138 3 күн бұрын
Great job! Where could one find those neck profile cards you were using? I’m about to do this very thing to my Les Paul Junior.
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 3 күн бұрын
www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/hand-tools/marking-and-measuring/32523-stainless-steel-tracing-profile-gauge?item=44K1402 Something like this could help. Stew ac makes templates of classic guitars-www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/tools-by-job/tools-for-necks-and-fingerboards/neck-shaping-templates-for-electric-guitar/
@axslinger99
@axslinger99 3 ай бұрын
Great video. I just had this done to a Harley Benton LP style guitar. My hands just never fit with the fat LP neck. What was that finish oil you put on?
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 3 ай бұрын
www.triedandtruewoodfinish.com/products/original-wood-finish/
@axslinger99
@axslinger99 3 ай бұрын
@@Barringtonjohnbruce Thank you!
@WillKellyHardKnocksGtrs
@WillKellyHardKnocksGtrs 4 жыл бұрын
Buy a Cabinet maker's gauge to check the profile of the neck in progress. You can take a perfect snapshot of the profile at any fret, compare it to your templates, and be a whole lot more accurate and quicker. They're not expensive ........
@cforchange1
@cforchange1 4 жыл бұрын
How does that work? Interested to know.
@josipbalic3403
@josipbalic3403 4 жыл бұрын
Is posible to add more wood to sanded guitar neck? To make it thicker.
@keithadams812
@keithadams812 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there some kind of a epoxy type bondo
@rferguson3
@rferguson3 Ай бұрын
Lmao. Nope
@ivanpavlov4223
@ivanpavlov4223 6 ай бұрын
is there a change in the sound after the procedure?
@MrDracolucassos
@MrDracolucassos Жыл бұрын
The only scary thing for me- if you hit truss rod groove. I seen it few times. Do you have any "trick" to not fail here?
@heyg7819
@heyg7819 4 ай бұрын
Did it on a cheap Jackson and just filled it with saw dust and CA glue. If I did that on a nice guitar I would be heartbroken.
@tonymarinelli7304
@tonymarinelli7304 Жыл бұрын
Aside from the two oil applications, how long did the sanding and shaping process take? Thanks
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce Жыл бұрын
It's been a while , but I likely sanded and checked the profile for a 3 hour period. Certainly didn't want to go too fast with this. Thanks for watching.
@tonymarinelli7304
@tonymarinelli7304 Жыл бұрын
@@Barringtonjohnbruce Thank you!!!!
@Saber-2
@Saber-2 4 жыл бұрын
The necks on Gibson's/Epiphone with that wide shoulder instead of rounded neck makes the neck feel unnatural for me. However I do own an Epi SL which is the cheapest les paul available and the neck feels great! haha..Its more similar to my ESP/cheap strat.
@user-lv7ph7hs7l
@user-lv7ph7hs7l 3 ай бұрын
50s vs 60s neck. Plenty of Epis and Gibsons have 60s necks those are great. 50s is... authentic. But not great to play.
@user-lv7ph7hs7l
@user-lv7ph7hs7l 3 ай бұрын
I have an ESP Les Paul and it's nearly identical neck profile to my 60s neck Gibson.
@ryankelsey9646
@ryankelsey9646 4 жыл бұрын
Where's your contact info? I've got an Epiphone Les Paul 100 that has a tree trunk neck that needs to become a Hendrix sized neck. I've only got my Dean Strat HSS knockoff and my Jay Turser Knockoff SG in the meantime until I can get it sanded down.
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
I'm in south west Nova Scotia
@sustainablelife1st
@sustainablelife1st 2 жыл бұрын
Can this be done on an acoustic with a rod in the neck? I bought a brand new Taylor online and the seller is ripping me off on the return ($500 restock) so I'm either going to sell it or modify it.
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 2 жыл бұрын
Yes !Use callipers and neck templates and you'll be fine.
@sustainablelife1st
@sustainablelife1st 2 жыл бұрын
@@Barringtonjohnbruce thanks! I'm going to try it.
@FaOut
@FaOut 5 жыл бұрын
Isn`t his procedure dangerous for the Truss Rod?
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 5 жыл бұрын
Only if you take too much away to expose the truss rod. Otherwise the adjusting of the truss rod affects the topside (fingerboard) side of the Truss rod . Not the back of the neck side. Not too much should be taken away by the headstock either.
@doug941
@doug941 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Just the thing I was looking for! I used to own a Gibson Les Paul 1960 Classic in tobacco sunburst she was beautiful! She had a fall and broke her neck. I have a Les Paul Studio....it has more of a 50's style neck...kind of fat. Could I do something like this to make it more of a 1960's cut? Subscribed with the bell!
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce Жыл бұрын
Thanks ! You could use rasps and files , but here I show how good P grade sandpaper can do the job just fine. Stewmac Has templates of popular neck sizes now ,which could make this even easier. www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/tools-by-job/tools-for-necks-and-fingerboards/neck-shaping-templates-for-electric-guitar/. Good luck !
@JohnDaubSuperfan369
@JohnDaubSuperfan369 Жыл бұрын
It's funny and quite repulsive when old men assign genders to inanimate objects, I hope you didn't try to stick your knob in "her".
@leeholzmann1023
@leeholzmann1023 4 жыл бұрын
would it be very hard to put it back to d shape ?
@davekeating.
@davekeating. 4 жыл бұрын
Might be easier to "shrink" your hand ; )
@joshofofw945
@joshofofw945 2 жыл бұрын
Where u locate and HM u charge ?
@nunocorvelo1875
@nunocorvelo1875 Жыл бұрын
What grit you ise to remove the paint layer
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce Жыл бұрын
I believe I cautiously started with 120 P grade sandpaper
@robroufla
@robroufla 2 жыл бұрын
interesting, thanks!
@1RIB100
@1RIB100 4 жыл бұрын
What brand of oil did you use? Did it change the tone of the guitar?
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
www.stewmac.com/Materials_and_Supplies/Finishing_Supplies/Finishes_and_Solvents/Tried_and_True_Original_Wood_Finish.html. He hasn't mentioned a change in tone, but I can't help but think that a slightly smaller neck may sound a bit different than a thicker neck. I doubt the finish on the neck would have made a difference in the tone.
@Chckyrsix
@Chckyrsix 2 ай бұрын
If you want to change your tone, change your speakers.
@thomastucker5686
@thomastucker5686 Жыл бұрын
Making a Les Paul what it should have been in the first place.
@user-lv7ph7hs7l
@user-lv7ph7hs7l 3 ай бұрын
Ever tried a 60s Les Paul? It's like a shredder neck in comparison.
@thomastucker5686
@thomastucker5686 3 ай бұрын
@@user-lv7ph7hs7l 60s slim taper is still to chunky for my taste. I have been playing the hell out of a Schecter Solo II Blackjack. That neck is the thickest I can do. The Fender modern C profile suits me well also, though Fender fretwork is awful in my opinion. I know there are a couple good Fender necks out there, but they are hard to find. My friend has one such guitar. I have purchased 6 in the last two years and the last 3 I returned. I am thinking I might prefer the 24.75" scale length with jumbo frets. I'm always looking for the unicorn guitar that I can't put down. I am a drummer first.
@matouscervenka7248
@matouscervenka7248 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. But.. Is it safe? What about truss rod? Thanks
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 2 жыл бұрын
The truss rod is the utmost concern, but we really aren't sanding too deeply. As long as you keep measuring along the way.
@brian1749
@brian1749 4 жыл бұрын
Great job! It looks like it came off the assembly line, like that!
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind comment Brian !!!
@Westw00do
@Westw00do 4 жыл бұрын
Does it fuck.......
@coltoncowan9505
@coltoncowan9505 4 жыл бұрын
Do most guitar techs do this
@lydmo8287
@lydmo8287 Жыл бұрын
Where are you located and how much does this service cost?
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce Жыл бұрын
I'm in Nova Scotia Canada. As far as cost- It's 5-6 hours of work
@dongle1718
@dongle1718 2 жыл бұрын
Great! I worked it in my SG to V profile neck its sooo nice😍
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 2 жыл бұрын
So glad It worked out for you !
@marx91
@marx91 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of oil did you use on the neck?
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 2 жыл бұрын
www.triedandtruewoodfinish.com/products/original-wood-finish/
@sauerkrautoneverything7807
@sauerkrautoneverything7807 3 жыл бұрын
I guess you're matching a set profile, but I feel that one would only need to sand the bottom half, behind the lowest strings? Also, that Les Paul's neck must be very thick because I don't remember Stratocasters having thin necks, been awhile though.
@bobsegar1242
@bobsegar1242 2 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely a thick LP neck here!
@Timanator
@Timanator 4 жыл бұрын
I do the same to most of my guitars :)
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
Cool -Thanks for watching!!!
@timkiely6790
@timkiely6790 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I've been wanting to try this for a long time. I'm wondering about the grain on a mahogany neck. Do you think there is a need for pore filling? In the video, the surface of the neck looks very smooth and consistent. Did the original pore filling go deep enough that the sanding didn't "re-expose" the grain? Thanks again!
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce Жыл бұрын
The original pore filling was sanded off .I would like it as smooth as possible if it were my guitar ,so pore filling is a great idea indeed.Thank you Tim !
@kellyp9438
@kellyp9438 Жыл бұрын
Cabinet File works best for this job. I shape necks all the time. Just quicker but otherwise you did a beautiful job
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce Жыл бұрын
Yes ....Great suggestion. Thank you for watching !
@fransboy2591
@fransboy2591 2 жыл бұрын
The job itself looks well executed but the guitar looks odd to me. I would have preferred if more transitional marks were done mimicking the wear the hand would do at the top and bottom of the neck.
@flamedmahoganytable9749
@flamedmahoganytable9749 Жыл бұрын
I agree, a good relic job would’ve gone a long way. Or like someone else said, stain the bare wood cherry red before applying finish
@michaelmenet2712
@michaelmenet2712 11 ай бұрын
How did you make those profiles? Thanks!
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 11 ай бұрын
you could use something like this against your favourite neck - www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/hand-tools/marking-and-measuring/32522-pvc-profile-gauge?item=03N0101. or just use the premade ones from stewmac -www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/tools-by-job/tools-for-necks-and-fingerboards/neck-shaping-templates-for-electric-guitar/
@michaelmenet2712
@michaelmenet2712 11 ай бұрын
@@Barringtonjohnbruce Thanks!!
@M5guitar1
@M5guitar1 2 жыл бұрын
I want to do the same on my Epiphone Casino coupe.
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 2 жыл бұрын
You got this ! Stew Mac sells profile templates . But a profile or contour gauge taken from your favourite guitar and some sandpaper and a calliper and you're well on your way to enjoying that guitar more than ever. On a side note, I think I would Like to add a Casino to my collection someday.
@dkpick
@dkpick 4 жыл бұрын
Good job! But, I would have refinished the whole back of the neck including the back of the head stock.
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks !!!
@danaparsons854
@danaparsons854 5 жыл бұрын
what would be the cost for that?
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 5 жыл бұрын
Could easily be a 5 hour + job, x whatever rate your guy charges.
@Estuardino71
@Estuardino71 4 жыл бұрын
@@Barringtonjohnbruce that is a low cost labor hour, cheers.
@floodgatestudios1825
@floodgatestudios1825 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jamie! I found this highly informative, and now I'm not as frightened at the idea of having my les Paul neck thinned out!
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for writing. Glad you found it informative!!!
@mothmanpowerbomb4757
@mothmanpowerbomb4757 4 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to sand the red finish of of my SG but I'm not sure what gade sand paper I should use just to remove the finish without accidentally misshapping the neck
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
Anything lower than 120 would be too rough. Use P Grade paper the grit on the P grade is more even. Good luck!!!
@mothmanpowerbomb4757
@mothmanpowerbomb4757 4 жыл бұрын
@@Barringtonjohnbruce I appreciate it. How else could I prevent from scratching or sanding the fret board? (I have a rose wood fretboard)
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
@@mothmanpowerbomb4757 Masking tape and caution will get the job done.
@keithclark486
@keithclark486 Жыл бұрын
I have done several like this, only takes 30 minutes or less.
@xb00sted
@xb00sted 2 жыл бұрын
what oil did you use?
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 2 жыл бұрын
www.triedandtruewoodfinish.com/products/original-wood-finish/
@pebberbrown
@pebberbrown 3 жыл бұрын
"tried and true oil" is that tru oil?
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 3 жыл бұрын
Here is what I used - Thanks for watching !
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 3 жыл бұрын
www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/supplies/finishing-supplies/finishes-and-solvents/tried-and-true-original-wood-finish.html
@ladyblue001
@ladyblue001 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I am trying to do that to my LP, when you are using the wheels you add something like a white bar, what is it? . Minute 10:53 Thank you in advance.
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 3 жыл бұрын
www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/supplies/sanding-and-polishing/buffing-and-polishing/colortone-buffing-compounds.html. Thanks for watching !!!
@MrBLawson85
@MrBLawson85 4 жыл бұрын
werent you worried about going to far and exposing the truss rod?
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Thanks for watching. This is not unusually thin like a Petrucci model or anything, just a bit smaller. But one always feels a bit nervous when working on any guitar.
@MrBLawson85
@MrBLawson85 4 жыл бұрын
@@Barringtonjohnbruce i have an Epiphone LP I want to do this to, but I'm very afraid of going too far.
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrBLawson85 www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/tools-by-job/tools-for-necks-and-fingerboards/neck-shaping-templates-for-electric-guitar.html A call to stewmac might help. They sell these templates that will help you along. They also sell stains , and have a cherry stain that would match perfectly with this guitar ,but the owner wanted it natural. With your Epiphone be carefull of not removing too much at the nut /truss rod nut, area of the back of the neck. Again ,those templates, a caliper , and I used 120 Grit papers as to not be too aggressive ,and with some care you should be fine. Stewmac has experts that will help with your questions !!!
@MrBLawson85
@MrBLawson85 4 жыл бұрын
thank you man i really appreciate your response
@andreaskragh9464
@andreaskragh9464 4 жыл бұрын
@@Barringtonjohnbruce Hi Jamie, I have an Epiphone with at veneer on the body. Do you think I could do this to the whole back of the guitar (neck, headstock and body) without the veneer falling off or something? Greetings from Denmark
@lewisbeeman
@lewisbeeman 3 жыл бұрын
I am so glad to see someone do this. I have a Epiphone Les Paul Gold Top that I really like. But the one thing I dont like about it is the neck carve. I am a fender guy and Gibson and Epiphone necks tend to have fat shoulders which I am not a fan of. So, not I see this is something I can totally do myself. Looking forward to it. Thanks for sharing.
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching ! Good luck with it.
@herickvar8608
@herickvar8608 Жыл бұрын
Do you reshape the neck? I am in the same situation
@lewisbeeman
@lewisbeeman Жыл бұрын
@@herickvar8608 I actually ended up trading the guitar for a PRS Starla which I liked more.
@atelyeuh8919
@atelyeuh8919 Жыл бұрын
Wow
@geofftate6113
@geofftate6113 2 жыл бұрын
Jamie, great post!! Can I ask how you were sure you didn't sand through or near to the truss rod. That's what stops me doing the job on my ES339
@bobsegar1242
@bobsegar1242 2 жыл бұрын
No need to really go thinner there more than 1mm As Gibsons are 22mm all the way down, The fender is 21mm The truss rod is 1/8” (3mm) deep in a Gibson, So if you go a 16th” (1.5mm) you are 1.5mm safe… more potential for it to snap off. But it’ll work…
@richlaurich9997
@richlaurich9997 4 жыл бұрын
Mahogany neck? Looks like maple.
@michaelcantinieri7890
@michaelcantinieri7890 2 жыл бұрын
you could've put some red tint in that oil
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 2 жыл бұрын
Stewmac sells a cherry that would have matched perfectly, but my friend wanted the raw mahogany look.Thanks for watching !
@ctrockstar7168
@ctrockstar7168 4 жыл бұрын
That buffer damaged my hearing! lol
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
haha... I've since found out how I can lower the volume in different segments on I movies, so I'll be doing that in the future .Thanks for watching !!!
@WaleshiddenhistoryMD
@WaleshiddenhistoryMD 11 ай бұрын
If that's a genuine Gibson, that's one hell of a way to devalue it...
@jm4472
@jm4472 10 ай бұрын
Who cares ….. seems like the owner is an actual player and not a collector / reseller , so why would he care of it Lowers the value. He’s gonna keep the guitar for life.
@glenlapwing8468
@glenlapwing8468 Жыл бұрын
Some of those 70s les pauls had such thick necks, they were almost unplayable-very fatiguing if your on a long gig & is what kept me away from PRS guitars
@Amassari44
@Amassari44 4 жыл бұрын
should have atleast matched the stain
@dylanflanagan3806
@dylanflanagan3806 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you’re masking an Irish accent
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 4 жыл бұрын
My first language is French !! Thanks for watching !!!
@dylanflanagan3806
@dylanflanagan3806 4 жыл бұрын
Jamie Surette wow, sorry for the mixup.
@edvardhagerupgrieg724
@edvardhagerupgrieg724 Жыл бұрын
Comparison: 0:01 - 11:54
@chrish931
@chrish931 4 жыл бұрын
Seems to me the customer is just asking for his Les Paul to end up with a broken head stock. The head stocks on Les Paul's already seem to snap off with ease with the stock thick d shaped neck, the customer better never accidentally drop this guitar, even on carpet.
@robvoyles
@robvoyles 4 жыл бұрын
it's not because of the thickness Les pauls necks break off as often as they do, it's because of the backwards tilt and width of the headstock itself and it falling on it's back and not face.
@johnnypk1963
@johnnypk1963 4 жыл бұрын
I would agree. The last thing u ever want to do is remove any mass under the nut into the headstock. The angle of headstock matters (at 14degrees) b/c it puts more string tension stress at the nut where LPs tend to break. If u don’t like the neck don’t buy the guitar. Not to mention any resale value that LP had is GONE.
@floodgatestudios1825
@floodgatestudios1825 3 жыл бұрын
Peter Frampton would beg to differ, his black beauty had the neck thinned out, and the middle pick up was added after.... I sanded down my Les Paul neck because the thickness was giving me hand cramps, I love my Les Paul, if I can love it more with a slight alteration...I say...do it!
@kennyblackbird5674
@kennyblackbird5674 7 ай бұрын
I don't know.....
@gustavomillan6098
@gustavomillan6098 4 жыл бұрын
why dont you buy a guitar with a slimmer neck? this is painful to see
@mattflickinger8151
@mattflickinger8151 4 жыл бұрын
Gustavo Millan I have one that I love but the neck is just too fat compared to my others. It was an online order and I did not realize how much neck shape mattered. To me, I have so much history with that guitar, I would consider a new neck or thinning it up a bit
@msgesus4518
@msgesus4518 Жыл бұрын
This is a crime against humanity 🪦
@rjlchristie
@rjlchristie 10 ай бұрын
I hate C shaped necks, this made me weep. Just so you know.
@danielbarza8600
@danielbarza8600 7 ай бұрын
How do I say this in a nice way......here goes....this is a crime against humanity
@mark5150ty
@mark5150ty 4 жыл бұрын
You should have removed all the lacquer in my opinion off of the hill and the back of the headstock leaving only the black face of the headstock and the lacquer on the body itself the transition marks look cheap.
@morganpeline9822
@morganpeline9822 3 жыл бұрын
Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@race5050R1
@race5050R1 2 жыл бұрын
OMG and here I am trying to find fattest neck I can. Can’t stand skinny necks. My hands and fingers too big. I couldn’t finish watching. Good work tough for those that are interested in skinny necks. Thx.
@Guitar387
@Guitar387 3 жыл бұрын
Dodgy shaving down the neck it’s easy to hit the truss rod, then it’s only good for fire wood 🪵 😂😂
@fuglbird
@fuglbird 4 жыл бұрын
I would prefer to get a proper thick D shaped neck on my Stratocaster and remove some of the banjo sound. I would never ruin my Les Paul like that.
@michaeljustice124
@michaeljustice124 2 жыл бұрын
SACRILEGE!
@Barringtonjohnbruce
@Barringtonjohnbruce 2 жыл бұрын
I actually have to Agee. He bugged me for about a year and a half before I agreed to it.But you know ,he does play to a lot more now !Thanks for watching !
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