You just made me shed tears of joy. The RTR 200 I feel is the most value I could have drawn from south of 2 Lakh INR.

Thanks Shantanu!

Awesome! Glad you're enjoying your rides!

HI, What's the mileage you are getting?

@@pankajjahagirdar1278 I get around 33-34 kmpl. But I ride almost exclusively in very heavy city traffic.

Hows the service with global tvs?

@@skeet295 Excellent so far with the branch at mahalakshmi layout.

At 110 it was relaxed? What fuel efficiency are you getting?

@@motorinc 40 in city traffic, 45 on highways at 80 kmph avg speeds, touching 110 kmph at times, Since the bike is new, I havent yet pushed to cruise above 100 kmph,

Same here bro

​@@jikkubinoytsame here bro

I too chose Ronin because of solid build and sitting comfort. It's awesome till 80, above that its not enjoyable but leaves enough room on throttle for overtaking when needed. And yah its heavier that apache so gives good confidence on highway.

Soon! Thanks for the suggestion!

True.its already late..

​@@motorincI'm eagerly waiting.

​@@motorincit's time brotha

​@@motorincWaiting, pls do 😙

Wow! That's nearly a decade old.

There’s no hate. But TVS can most certainly do FAR better than this.

No he doesn't.. what he says is pin point correct. Ronin does feel a bit over done in the design department and feels a bit out of breath on highways. Below 100 the bike is charm and riding posture is also good and great for city commutes and also good for touring if you dont push it .

​Yes, I have RE Meteor 350(uncle-only owner) and Tvs Ronin. I love ronin in all aspects. But, it's not Tvs's best. They can do better. ​@@motorinc

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Do tell us what you decide!

Same with me, the placement of footpegs is a game changer. Ronin is more practical for City Roads. Haven't got one yet, still researching.

What did you go for?​@@potatoe_hooman

@@bikeridersuperior Ronin, it's an easy to ride/learn motorbike and perfect for someone starting and want to continue with a bike for some time. I have found lesser cc bikes tougher to manage. I have an emotional connect with Ronin, grown up watching Naruto and anime. Ronin feels like being a member of Akatsuki. 🥷 There are some issues you may face, like chain noise, or mirror adjustment (got fixed in first service)... There is still some tappet noise I get.. But I don't care about it. The ride quality overcomes it. Once you get your mirror adjusted, it boost your confidence alot. Better get it onn day one. The service guys are good here, but still they don't want to do major adjustments(tappet noise). As they know the outcome wont be perfect. That's what they say. Most importantly, this bike doesn't sell like hotcakes. Alway check the manufacturing date and month. Don't go buy old ones, as they do start to rust. Anything else I could help you with?

@@potatoe_hooman How is the rear suspension ??

If you mostly use it commutes at speeds less than 70kmph, it is a wonderful experience @jramjumarpatnaik2877. Once you cross that though...

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Oh good. We certainly don't want people to not make decisions for themselves.

Awesome!

Hi bro, footpegs are in more sportier side so during touring feel exausred at the end of day right??? I mean riding position is not comfortable ???

​@@shabbir7129placing foot on crash guard 🎉

Thanks for sharing @thedoubleendedcoder1174. Hope you're having a good time otherwise though!

Thank you!

But we must! If you watch our film on the Ronin (and elsewhere) we're trying to tell people that the RTR200 is the bike to get over the Ronin!

😅 No we really did try to see how they compared, in the most objective way possible.

Thanks for sharing your experience @anuragtiwari819.

No idea! Must be something you clicked 🤣

Ronin has no space to sit either

Thanks for the reco!

Thank you! Shumi says he would

Gixxer 250 starts at 2.34L on road, in my city, because of the ride connect variant. Idk if they're still selling the standard variant but they certainly didn't tell me of its existence when I went to Suzuki's showroom today, neither did their price sheet indicate it. Bummer.

@@adityyuh their web site has both options one with the old console and the new one which is 13 k costlier, this price difference comes down to 9 k or so in the case of SF250. Maybe it is a limited period offer.

Usually if the website lists it, it can at least be ordered. Insist. If you run into trouble email Shumi. shumi at motorinc dot com

Can do!

The beauty of the first bike is that _anything_ can work. Our suggestion is make a list of the bikes that you think will be nice to ride. Then go test ride as many of those as you can... and let's discuss afterwards?

It's an RS Taichi riding shoe we picked up in Thailand a while ago... we don't know its name

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Good that you have a bike you're enjoying JT! We did more than 200km on both and our conclusions aren't the same as yours. Which is totally okay -- the important thing is you have a bike that you're enjoying riding!

​@@motorinc You mean for long drive Ronin is not comfortable ???

Thanks for sharing your opinion! ❤️

Behind? You're watching a video from last month! Catch up with us! 😊

Can do!

As soon as we can!

As soon as we can!

A test ride of both should clarify that for you Siman!

You can thank him later!

Ronin Bike is good & nicelydesigned for both city & weekendson long tour...any one can give views on his personal paid interest

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I recently buy a Ronin and for me it is a gem... Basically every bike depends upon people's choice....each bike has its own abilities and Quality.....Apart from speedy Apache 200 if u are a slow cruiser go for Ronin.....it's just a wonderful machine with good road presence...u can simply cruise at 90-100km....

​@@vishnus2504how is Ronin and did you face any issues as of

Ronin is much simpler to ride and live with .. Hunter can be a good beginner bike too But it's not as comparatively easier to live with the Ronin

There’s no hate. But this is far below the level that TVS usually operates at. Should we lower our expectations?

@@motorincdesign is subjective and for many of us it looks rather good....

Ok! We’ve no problem with you disagreeing with us at all

Can do!

@@motorinc please do

@@motorinc add fz25 also to it

Depends. The RTR will feel more current. The NS will feel faster. 😊

We suggest you should watch more or his content and get to know him.

Would you wait for the answer? The new Himalayan should be here September or October and it will change things

@@motorinc but right now which one is better overall

​@@Sushant9763 you are comparing entirely two different segments. But Himalayan is much more capable than Apache ( I have one ) in every way. If you are buying a bike to only commute, Apache is better but if you wanna do long rides and a mix of everything go for Himalayan and yes do wait for the new version so you don't miss out good stuff

​​@@Sushant9763 if you are looking for outright performance apache would be the pick and quality levels are miles ahead of himalayan . But with its sheer offroading capabilities himalayan would be undoubtedly the best. ( note : about the current gen himalayan )

Let us know what you thought of each bike when you test rode @sahilhakani5220 and maybe we can help!

@@motorinc let me be as direct as possible 1. Apache 200- Great bike. Have to be on the gears alot. But that's a positive. Really fun and engaging to ride. Had a terrible experience in the showroom(I had to reach out to tvs on instagram before the showroom guys let me get a test ride). And for service 6-7 of my friends who own various tvs vehicles. All of em say it sucks. Which is a bit unnerving as a first time buyer 2. NS200- Extremely fun. Lovely chasis. Lovely engine. Everything responds to your inputs like a drop of a dime. Under braking I found it quite unstable and zero feedback from the levers. Maybe a skill issue.(Although none of the others feel unstable) Idk. Fit and finish could be better. 3. N250 - feels good while mid speed cruizing. Lovely engine. Stable. Lovely on the brakes. Stops on a dime. But the chasis reacts lathargically. End up slowing down an extra 20kph for the same twisty section to avoid understeer. The suspension is weirdly balanced. And slow 2nd gear riding makes it rock front and back like a seesaw alot. Annoying. MT15- Feels like a bike. It's responsive. Decent power. But revving it out everywhere is not possible and without the vva. It's slow af. Not fun. Feels like a commuter at best. Even a cb200x feels peppier. 🤣 Hunter - relaxed. Responsive enough. The chasis is well balanced with the engine. If the engine was faster. The chasis wouldn't keep up. And vice versa. But they match perfectly. The only bike in the budget that looks genuinely beautiful. Almost a cafe racer (I love the way it looks)(evokes strong feelings within ♥️😍😍) CB200X- comfortable. Agile. Fun to ride. Problems?- No rear abs. Makes me less confident is going all out. The stiff suspension doesn't help either. Feels too underpowered for the price. Xpulse- It was okayish on road. I stay close to intra and inter city highways and the Xpulse feels strained. I loved it on trails. But the 50km ride to reach them is pretty boring. So yeah. That's the opinion. Looking forward to your help

@@sahilhakani5220 1. Spot on. Service is the weakest link in the TVS story for sure 2. It feels like this is the motorcycle that impressed you the most of this lot. (NS200) 3. Don't buy one - you have made up your mind... it's obvious 4. Don't buy one - you have made up your mind... it's obvious 5. This seems to be your second option in the list. (Hunter) 6. Don't buy one - you have made up your mind... it's obvious 7. Don't buy one - you have made up your mind... it's obvious What do you think?

@@motorinc I think that narrows it down alot. Although. Would like a 3rd option as well. Maybe the NS400Z

We'll discuss the Z after you get a test ride?

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Hmm. Depends. MT and NS for performance. RTR for balance. N250 for city

Well if pillions are a priority @Farhan_049, then sure the Ronin is slightly better. Make sure to watch other FAQs of the Ronin to learn how to increase pillion comfort.

@@motorinc I fully agree with that. It's just _slightly_ better on the Ronin than the 200 4v! Both barely have enough space to fit women sitting sideways. The Mavrick and X440 are aces better in terms of that.

Don't @B13now. Take Shumi's opinions and do test ride on your own too if you're interested. That's what Shumi aims to make you do.

Thanks for letting us know @dkblaze9072. Thankfully, there are plenty other options in the segment that you can choose from. Good luck!

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Ok!

He doesn't like any product that fails to live up to its potential @pratap2851.

Oh? Tell us more? What's the issue and how common do you think it is?