Orangemen are Irishmen, who in order to be thought of as Englishmen , march dressed as Scotsmen in honour of a Dutchman.

The difference is St Patrick's day isn't for a sectarian hate group.

3:30 "Catholics are welcome" as someone in the background is parading past with a UVF flag 😂

Using st Patrick’s day as an excuse for sectarian marches is wild

The “you have st Patrick’s day” comparison is hilarious. The Irish flag is banned by most councils from being displayed in the parade. The parade is made up of community organisations (schools, youth clubs etc), Disney characters, Chinese dragons, Spanish dancers. It also lasts a single day. However, orange parades are year round. The UVF, UDA, Union Jack flags displayed on lampposts all year round. The parade is made up of the orange order that, still to this day is openly sectarian and misogynistic. The parade is full of Union jacks and British symbols. The bonfires are plastered in Irish flags, Irish symbols, pictures of Catholic politicians, sectarian slogans. The ones that aren’t covered in flags are still health hazards and houses have to be hosed down in case they melt. St Patrick’s day and the twelfth are not even remotely similar. It’s hilarious than you can build bonfires with 0 council objection but to build an Irish language school it has to under go consultation in case it “upsets the locals” or causes offence. You cant even have a bilingual sign without them throwing a fit. This country is a joke

If it’s a day that both sides can enjoy why is it that most bonfires have anti catholic effigies on top off them just be honest it is and always will be an anti catholic event

we don't burn english flags on st patrick's day...

Something nobody mentioned - another reason most Catholics don't show up is because you're watching a bunch of middle aged men in suits walk about to the sound of drums and screeching flutes. Its like a worse version of a funeral

Imagine your personality and life being all about obsessing over a king who wasn't even born in UK or Ireland.

Every Catholic I have met has been wonderful and very polite. Irish Catholics are truly amazing people.

St Patricks day is a party. The 12th is about celebrating oppression and division.

"We're loyal protestants"- a man who's never seen the inside of a church

Not Catholic or Protestant but a former resident of Glasgow. My overwhelming feeling about the Orange marches from my experience was of an excuse to stir up sectarian hatred that expanded to racial attacks too. My mates and I would be targeted for being out not wearing orange or blue clothes or Rangers tops and then I would be yelled at, threatened and called the N word. Similarly I knew to expect crap when I had to walk past an orange lodge or a Rangers pub. Not to say all rangers fans or even orangemen are the same but there’s bad vibes to the whole thing and I find it completely false equivalency to compare a saints day who btw is the patron of the entire island of Ireland to a celebration of sectarian domination

These events tagged blindly as "this is a Protestant parade" and "that is a Catholic parade" without really understanding the meaning and history behind anything. I grew up in the Protestant community in Belfast. As I grew up and broadened my horizons I realised that Catholics generally have a better grasp of what's behind their history and culture than Protestants do. Making reference to St. Patrick is fairly meaningless. St. Patrick predates any existence of Catholicism or Protestantism so it's a valid celebration for everyone in theory.

The irony of telling people they need to move forward beyond previous conflicts while celebrating the battle of the boyne.

@5:53 “Catholics are still holding onto the past” From a man who is celebrating something that happened over 300 years ago.

Celebrating a gay European defeating an English King! What's not to like?

The hilarious thing is that as far as people from Britain are concerned, if you come from the island of ireland, north or south they consider you irish. They don't give a rats ass if your catholic or protestant.

Paddys day is like celebrating xmas, boyne day is like celebrating the iraq war

It’s only about bigotry. It might give Protestants some meaning and purpose, but it ultimately stems from bigotry and hatred. It’s a free society that allows these marches to continue so unfortunately I think nothing will change.

English bloke hasn’t a clue .

Watched about 15 seconds and switched over. These people are tragic.

2:03 The proud Scottish loyalist who hasn't realised the Queen has died

Videos like this are good for exposing what we have had to put up with here for so long.

its real hate ,

It's really pathetic that these sorts of Marches still go on. It was hundreds of years ago. Move on.

Politics of it aside I fucking hate the orange lodge march in my town. They get pissed, trash the place, soil themselves and stink up the trains.

It's interesting how they say "the Catholics have St. Patrick's Day". St. Patrick brought Christianity to Ireland 1000 years before the Reformation, long before Protestantism existed - he brought the religious beliefs to the island for all Christians. Then again, this is all about sectarianism and bigotry and nothing really to do with religion, as such.

The Orange in the Republic's Flag represents the Protestants, so celebrating Irish Protestantism is part of Irishness.

I'm sure we Irish can get past the parades just fine. Burning the Irish flag, pictures of republican public servants etc is a wee bit of a turn off getting behind the 12th. So some movement from both sides is needed

The Scottish man saying the Irish nationalists hold their own parades in Ireland - that's not the equivalent of him marching in N Ireland. A closer comparison would be if English Anglicans had their own order that excluded Presbyterians, and travelled en masse to Scotland every year to march in celebration of the defeat of the Scots at the Battle of Culloden

As a Catholic from Glasgow my thoughts are with the Catholic communities of Northern Ireland at this time of year.

I wonder how many of these peoples pin numbers are 1690.....

Let's not forget, that King Billy was a Queen.

Funny how these aren't called hate marches

"The still hold onto the past and that" says the Orange man celebrating 1690. Without a hint of irony too...

Hatred and intolerance can never be culture.😢

I’m from a Protestant background and I hate this display of sectarian hatred. The twelfth should not be a public holiday since over half of the population are not invited.

Why didn't you ask: "And where exactly is the Boyne?"

Still fighting the battles of 1690 because they haven't understood anything that's happened since then ! Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaww ! Primitives !

As a very young child I used to spend the 12th holiday at my grandparents house as my parents were always on a trip that week . They lived at 26 Clifton Street which was right in the middle of these parades and I can remember how the sense of fear and anxiety when these guys came buy. It was and always has been a demonstration of absolute superiority over the catholic community.

The woman saying "they play their Gaelic sports".. in their ancestral homeland! Do they ever stop to think how that would sound if it was some other place, eg Australia. "People from all over the world come.. " - if loads of people travelled to Australia to celebrate a historical victory over the Aborigines in a battle against the British forces - would that mean the Aboriginal community should "suck it up" too..

Celebrating hatred. That is their "culture".

The bonfires are the worse - local parks looking like rubbish tips for 3 or 4 months of the year.

The comparison to st Patricks day is wrong. St patricks day is a Christian holiday(1 day). Where as the 12th is a protestant day(marching season). If it was just one day people wouldnt have an issue. Buts all summer long.

Strange how prolonged hatred can lead to a permanent distortion of facial features.

Why dont they celebrate the 1798 rebellion where Catholic, Presbyterian and dissenter all fought together onnthe same side. That is a celebration we could all vome together and enjoy

As an English Catholic this blows my mind!

A culture without their own flag or their own national anthem 👌

Being English i cannot understand why there burn the irish flag,they will be living under it very soon

Bitter folk.

The Battle of the Boyne was fought on July 1st not the 12th. What many don´t know is that the victory was celebrated in the Vatican as the Pope supported the Anti-French Alliance led by William 111.

This is the reason Scotland isn't independent yet. Widespread stupidity.

I was born in 1994 and went to Queens university in Belfast and it was my first chance to make friends from the other community. They were the best mates I’ve ever had and I wish everyone could have the same opportunity that I had to do that. In a United Ireland I would stand up for the rights of the Protestant minority like I would do for any other minority because that’s my duty as a human being. Much love to my British and Irish brothers alike.

If they both came together they would realise they both being shafted by their own politicians and tensions are kept high between them purposely.

If Orange walks are their equivalent of St Patricks day, why do we in Scotland have 352 of these walks over a two month period??

I'm a Catholic and have lived in the north my whole life. I am yet to meet a fellow Catholic who had attended any of these matches. To say it's a day for everyone is total nonsense.

This is why my family always books our holidays over the 12th

I'm a Catholic, and my opinion on the 12th is that it's a celebration of the continuation of Protestant rule in Ireland. A bit like, how as they argued, St. Patrick's Day commerates Catholicism reaching the island. But there is very much a limit. Celebrations of paramilitaries is a disgrace on the Protestant side as it is on the Catholic, as are bonfires that burn Catholic effegies or other instances of anti-Catholic sentiment. Verbal abuse, from what I've heard, is still very much present. An anecdote I heard recently was "Protestants are fine and we get along, then July 1st comes." Of course, it's wrong to stereotype and not all Protestants are like that, but there's definitely some that are. And I've seen other comments that the bonfires trash the place. That's just spitting on all parties involved, and an absolute disgrace. Clean up your shit.

Are the majority of unionists on benefits? The man from the Orange Order mentioned that there are less benefits in the Republic.

The hatred they spew shouldn’t be allowed on the streets

Some day the Orange Order can explain how they won the Battle of the Boyne.

St Patrick wasn’t an Irish man. Neither was king William. True Irish culture is the teachings and ancient knowledge and brehon laws of this ancient island. St Patrick was sent to rid Ireland of the Druids. Hence the story of the snakes.

That English fella is just exactly who you'd expect him to be, I bet he's part of a group called the "Footy Lads Cenotaph Freedom Stone Island Loyalist Nationalist Royalist Free Tommy Reform Brexit UKIP MAGA MBGA Constitution Magna Carta Crew..." Or something along those lines.

KKK

The English guy could not be any less knowledgeable!!

Ulster unionism is tragic really. Settlers who shouldve integrated into the land they arrived in 100s of years ago, but instead, in a vain attempt to remain triumphal and different, still celebrate the exploits of a....Dutch 😂..... monarch.

The Unionists want to be part of the UK but fought tooth and nail against same sex marriage and abortion rights. You can't have it both ways where you want to be in Britain but won't accept British social norms.

I'm looking forward to Sinn Féin representing the largest % of NI seats in Westminster 😊

There are still Orange lodges in Donegal who parade on the 12th so we Irish from the Republic just stoically look on in somewhat amusement, ah sure they will grow out of it. They are lost sheep most of them clawing on to a dark history that benefits nobody.

A bunch of people who - cannot speak English properly, define themselves by their "Britishness" - cannot keep the Presbyterian abstinence on alcohol but who get drunk define themselves as their hardline Protestantism - eat cheap, unhealthy takeaways for family days - play loud martial music in the presence of children. There is too much irony in all of this. No wonder your neighbours think that it is absurd.

The world celebrates St Patrick’s Day. Not sure what this is. 🇺🇸♥️🇮🇪

Please please change the rules. Orangemen are not allowed to attend the funeral, wedding etc of a Catholic.

I'm Scottish with a fair bit of Irish ancestry , also the original Scot's who gave Scotland it's name , were an Irish tribe from Ulster , so i regard Irish people as my kin!🇮🇪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

They're all fucking nuts

Basket Cases 😷🇮🇪🍀😷

Quite surprised at how many think reunification is on the horizon. Unthinkable 10 years ago.

REALLY? Comparing st Patrick's day, celebrating a saint versus celebrating a battle that took place in a foreign country? Showing everyone in the world that they are supreme! Well not anymore! Regardless of weather catholics feel intimidated or not, the majority of catholics would not attend an orange parade because of what they represent! The protestants being the majority and catholics being second class citizens. Well that is not the case anymore. The union is crumbling, dynasties dissolve, occupations end. Get used to the facts that the landscape is forever changing and it is only a matter of time before this country is reunified, an Ireland for all. Catholic, protestant and dissenter! 💚🇮🇪🤍🇮🇪🧡🇮🇪. GET THAT DOWN YER NECK!

Celebrating '"The battle of the Boyne"? Where Catholic mercenaries fought for William and Protestant rationalists fought against him on the side of Irish nationalism? Orangemen need to learn some history.

So, do these people not go out on St Patrick's Day?🍀

I could never get my head around the whole “it’s a catholic vs protestant issue”. It’s so clearly not about that

Sectarism. If we had this situation in another country the UK government would raise concerns but not here. Berlin Wall, is a wall of oppression but similar wall in NI is called a peace wall😢

The Scottish "loyalists" and the English football hooligan type really know the score when it comes to the Irish political scene 😂 All supporting the Ulster "loyalists" until somebody claps their hands and they'll be on the first boat back.

We want a rematch 🇮🇪

Happy Pride, lads and ladies. The little sashes and flutes are so cute. Good to see the older generations take part in pride events too. Holding the parades outside of pride month is a bit odd, but you do you. 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️❤🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈

Quite a few poorly educated people here starting with the interviewer. St Patricks day remembers Patrick (who was British btw) bringing Christianity to Ireland. All faiths enjoy and celebrate that. King Williams victory over King James is not Protestant Vs Catholic that is such a childish ill informed view of it. In truth it was the establishment of Civil Rights, Civil and Religious Liberties, modern day Democracy for EVERYONE. A defining moment in Western civilisation. Across NI many Catholics watch the parades, or choose to go about their everyday business. The mentality of hating upon the parade because it isn't your culture or identity is a backward mindset thankfully only held by a tiny minority. Catholics are of course welcome to watch the parades, and hopefully enjoy them. It's their choice if they want to come along and do so.

That Scottish guy frothing at the mouth grosses me out, so he does.

St Patrick's day isnt a fair comparison, one is a saint and the other event is literally about sectarianism. It is rooted in historical supremacy and has effigys of Catholics burnt. It isnt the same at all. If i showed up in a GAA shirt i could be attacked or get bother from others. If its so welcoming, i shouldn't have to think about what im wearing. I flew home revently in my lical teams jersey and my mum has me out on a jacket when i ran into a local shop in a protestant area as she was concerned. My driving instructor once made me change as we were to drive through a protestant area and she had previously had stiff thrown at her car. It isnt the same.

Mainland is the Republic of Ireland British are foreigners .... 🇮🇪

I've travelled all over the world and this place always amazes me that in a first world country that these cavemen exist, it's insane

'Nor s'rendah - and doon't tell me that there wor dinah- soors molliuns o' years agor when the woruld is only three thoosan' years ould'

As a protestant, everyone needs to calm down. If the 12th is bad, why isnt the 4th of july in the US? Also, some orange men i have to admit are very rude, but that doesn't mean they are all bad, it means some are good some are bad. Each side has its pros and cons

You do notice a blip in tourism to the Republic for these couple of days.

The guy in the joker hat is winged out 😂

8:15 Nice summary of why the Unionists, don't want Ireland united ... "they get more benefits the way things are".

The older generation in Northern Ireland like to live in a time warp, but thankfully, the younger generation are more forward thinking. The quicker the older generation clock-out, the better.

St Patricks Day: Celebrates a Saint and Irish culture by involving everyone from multiple communities and is celebrated across the world The 12th: Celebrates a Gay Dutch protestant king and his army killing catholics putting ireland under a tyranical and sectarian rule and is only celebrated by loyalists in NI and Scotland

An infestation of rabid hunnery

Comparing this to St Patrick’s day is pathetic. People on the “mainland” this is pure ignorance. The mainland is IRELAND not the UK. Going to GAA match you can be black, white, red and brown. You can be Muslim, Jew or whatever, we are there for the game not to talk about history or politics. This is a parade based on hate and bigotry, you need look no further to the bonfires with the tricolour and members of the rising. That chap from London should stay in London in a foreign city in a foreign country.

The Pope supported King Billy in 1690. Lol 😂😂😂😂