these will always be used. I am 78 years old and I used stoves made from cans when I was cub scout and still make my own
@pedroclaro7822 Жыл бұрын
Ah an experienced fella! Any thing better than the IKEA utensil drainer stove?
@sitdwnandhngon5 жыл бұрын
These stoves work much better with a pretty tight initial load and a top down ignition. Doing it that way you should have enough fuel to boil two cups without having to constantly feed it.
@BradMitchellPhoto5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip.
@OoavastoO5 жыл бұрын
They also work much better if you're not continually removing the pot and/or lid lol
@stanlindert63323 жыл бұрын
I’m with you. I always put a few thin dry sticks on the top ,and I drip candle wax on a bit of paper for a wick under that. The bottom is a couple of hands of pellets. Middle is chopped up mill ends.. these things are not for my survival or anything.. it’s for my enjoyment.
@Bojang_Bugami323 жыл бұрын
You can cook a small meal for two campers.
@leonschmidt73 жыл бұрын
I agree, look up stratified downdraft gasifier. The holes in the bottom of the burn chamber aren’t to let primary air up to the fire. They are to let partially combusted gases to get sucked down and then mix with secondary are going up the sides.
@aaizner8473 жыл бұрын
I don't have a spare 25 mins to wait for an answer I already have. Twig stoves are completely practical. I've been using them for about 5 years now, and love them. A bunch of my friends, having seen me use them on rafting, camping, and hunting trips, have also bought them. Not only are they great for cooking food in pots and on pans, but if you can find or make a little grill to slap on top of them, you can grill thin slices of meat like carne asada. Unless you're going to the desert or some other place where you can't gather twigs, definitely get one (or two); you won't be sorry.
@BradMitchellPhoto3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'm loving mine for canoeing and sea kayaking trips.
@wdvest8333 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@davfree9732 Жыл бұрын
I made a rocket stove out of tins and was pleasantly surprised by how good they are. I generate quite a bit of wood from falling twigs and branches, so a way to turn them into a useful fuel to cook would be great. Also the ashes will do my gardens beds some good.
@LivingroomTV-me9oz Жыл бұрын
“Unless you’re going to the desert…”. Well, I’d say you need it MORE in the desert: with wood being harder to come by, the twig stove makes more efficient use of what little wood you DO find, versus just burning the odd twig in an open camp fire.
@aaizner847 Жыл бұрын
@@LivingroomTV-me9oz you don't have one, do you..?
@MrMann7034 жыл бұрын
I always tell my son to think about the “what if’s”, that’s where this stove has another advantage, if on a trip and something happens that keeps you in the bush longer than expected you won’t run out of fuel
@BradMitchellPhoto4 жыл бұрын
Yep. This stove could keep you going pretty much indefinitely.
@grahambyrne87149 ай бұрын
matchies or lighter mmmmmmmmm
@MrMann7039 ай бұрын
@@grahambyrne8714 flint and steel, Ferro rod or bow drill hmmmm
@OoavastoO5 жыл бұрын
I'm personally not a fan of the JetBoil system or any other stove that requires the 1 use, disposable fuel canisters for a number of reasons. 1. Extra weight and pack space needed to carry canisters, (you'll need multiple for extended hikes/camps); 2. After depleting the fuel, you now have to pack the empty canisters back out again and dispose of them properly, (which again, takes up space in your pack, albeit you CAN crush them down to take up less room but that runs the risk of a puncture, potentially causing a spill of residual fuel), and; 3. IMO, they just create unnecessary waste. As far as I know they can't be refilled or recycled, (someone please correct me if I'm wrong), which I think most of us would agree, is just not a desirable outcome. They are, no doubt, extremely convenient but like most things made for convenience, that doesn't necessarily mean it's better. Again, just my opinion.
@BradMitchellPhoto5 жыл бұрын
Hi BigRed BikeRider. I agree that the canisters are not ideal from re-usability point-of-view. But they are recyclable. I use the Jetboil Crunchit tool (bit.ly/309vMOh) to puncture visible holes in my empty canisters and then put them into my mixed-materials recycling bin for bi-weekly curb-side pickup. It is important that the holes be visible or the recycling center may worry whether the canister is empty or not. Visible holes make it clear that there is no safety hazard for them to process the canister. I make lots of holes around all sides of the canister so that they are easily noticed from any angle. Still, using white gas in re-usable fuel bottles would be even better from material usage point-of-view.
@MrDanAng13 жыл бұрын
You can buy valves to refill the canisters, but this is only so you can re-use a small canister. If you buy a 100 g canister, you can refill it 5 times from a 450 g canister, thus saving several small containers in favour for one big. Although, of course, this only work for shorter trips, for prolonged trips you still have to carry the big canisters! There is a special tool you can screw on the top of empty canisters to punch a series of holes around the top side of the canister, then you can recycle it as metal. But as mentioned, the holes must be visible so there is no doubt they can't be pressurized. And when puncturing them, there is always some left over gas, so don't do it indoors!
@OoavastoO3 жыл бұрын
@@MrDanAng1 Thanks Daniel. I didn't realize you can refill the smaller ones or that they were recyclable. I learned something new today! 😁👍
@MrDanAng13 жыл бұрын
@@OoavastoO Just type "gas canister refill valve" on Amazon, Ebay, AliExpress or similar sites and you'll find them. There is some with a handle so you can stop the gas flow between the canisters before removing the valve again, I recommend those, those without will always spill some gas, best case scenario, worst case scenario, you can lose all gas in one of the canisters!
@assistantscoutmastercole99034 жыл бұрын
Always a good idea to carry solid fuel tablets to mitigate situations where wood is too wet or if there is a fire ban
@standunitedorfall18632 жыл бұрын
There are some videos using wood pellets, and they work very well. A cotton ball with vaseline is an easy starter.
@crazysquirrel94252 жыл бұрын
Fire straws
@MrRocque2 жыл бұрын
wood is never 'too wet' if you know a few things: wood is rarely wet on the inside if split (don't need to use twigs all the time), don't use floor litter or even horz. branches, vertical doesn't allow water to 'sit' and soak in, collect branches from under cover. Better yet, cut down standing dead wood and split it into small enough pieces (and use the stove properly by stacking wood vertically and fill the entire chamber, light from the top and you don't have to keep adding 'wet' fuel)
@crazysquirrel94252 жыл бұрын
@@MrRocque I have found many times that wood can be too wet to use. Ran a wood burning heater for years. What I thought was dry seasoned wood started sizzling out the cut ends when the wood was heated. All my wood came from the local yard waste. Stack the wood vertically like to form a Swedish Candle of sorts?
@MrRocque2 жыл бұрын
@@crazysquirrel9425 kind of, yes. The intent of on end stoking is to allow as much fuel as possible. If you've seen the wood pellet vids with these stoves, there's no need for huge air flow up through the fuel. So cramming it with fuel is just more burn time. But it's important not to cover the jets. Can easily have a burn last for half an hour with a decent fuel load, no maintenance. More with hard woods.
@harrypierce12982 жыл бұрын
Also as an almost free fire starter, I use dryer lint or cotton balls saturated with Vaseline. Waterproof if saturated, lights instantly, and a cotton ball lasts about 3 min.
@JJthename557 ай бұрын
Me too
@stephenanderson23184 жыл бұрын
It really comes down to most a personal desire, so that being said, You never know what kind of emergency situation may come up when you least expect it. Not a favorite thing to think about, but any good hiker or backpacker would always prepare for the worst, but aim for the best is my way of thinking. Once fuel runs out you will still have to survive by eating what ever you can find. This is where there becomes no doubt that the twig stove would be the best way to go. Even If you stored some twigs in a freezer bag to keep them dry in an emergency situation you are packing in and out a much lighter load. I like to think out of the box to be safe.
@GreyRock1004 жыл бұрын
From the ashes of civilization rises the mighty twig stove.
@vreese33504 жыл бұрын
I'm not a camper, I wanted it for just as you said to be available in emergency situation. I'm not able to store fuel thought you can find twigs just about anywhere. Looking forward to learning to properly use it. Thanks for the video
@ensignj32427 ай бұрын
That’s why I want a twig stove-severe emergency. I live in AZ desert and can always find twigs. I’m not worried about burn bans in SHTF situations. And besides, someone already mentioned burn bans dont usually include contained fire. But I’m torn between a gasified twig stove and a Kelly kettle. Will a gasified hold up as well in a storm as a K Kettle?
@Mrandy88954 жыл бұрын
Once you learn how to use it correctly it will be far better. Load it. Light it from the top. And DON'T have the fuel above the top holes as you did. This way it will gasify almost immediately. As so produce twice the burn heat.
@davidvaughn77522 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@thebarkingmouse5 ай бұрын
I just don't use the bottom cup & pack the whole thing from top to bottom & have enough set aside to fill it a second time & start it from the bottom. Then I put my pot full of water on top & set up the tent, prepare the rest of my food. Within 20 minutes I have a liter of water at a rolling boil & a good bed of coals to throw more fuel on if I wish.
@WIZ-IN-PA4 жыл бұрын
Most burn bans refer to open fires (campfires). Twig stove use is a contained fire which is usually permitted during burn bans, at least here in Pennsylvania. Twig stoves do not scar up the landscape like campfires. Most people do not "leave no trace" when it comes to campfires. And most importantly, Twig stove are supposed to be packed tight with twigs vertically, (below the air vent holes) and then lit from the top with a piece of tinder (birch bark, fatwood, etc.). You will find it is most efficient when burned this way.
@jeschinstad3 жыл бұрын
Here in Norway, the law is very simple. Between April 15th and September 15th, there are no accidents with fire in the woods, so you can light all the fires you want as long as it's obviously safe, but if you somehow lose control, it's arson. That's fifteen years and full economic responsibility.
@tonyperone32424 жыл бұрын
I use a hand sanitizer to light the wood. I dab some on a twig light it off and place it in the middle just bellow the top of the twig bundle. Works and no scorched fingers. Wood stoves tend to be seasonal and what is ironic is that the time when they would work best is usually when the fire bans start popping up. It may be a good idea to bring an alcohol stove or ans Esbit in case a fire ban pops up unexpectedly or wet weather happens. Enjoyed.
@pedroclaro7822 Жыл бұрын
You can be perfectly safe with these even during fire bans provided you take the right precautions. Camp well off sight and use only dry wood which still some the least. Clear out the area around the stove and have sons disposable water at the ready, or predig some dirt to cover up the fire. This is far safer than most alcohol stoves which aren’t even banned in some cases.
@jeffhodge73335 жыл бұрын
You first load the stove with twigs and bark in the upright position, Once the stove is fully loaded, you light it from the top.
@davidboskett55814 жыл бұрын
Best results are obtained if the twigs are laid horizontally Most people dont seem to understand -it is not the actual wood that burns but the gas given off when the wood is heated
@BosisofSweden4 жыл бұрын
@@davidboskett5581 That was my thought too. Is it a good idea to cut the sticks into 1/2-1 inch pieces, fill the burn chamber and then light the fire?
@Funkteon2 жыл бұрын
This is an absolute wives tale that continues to be told on these wood gasifier stove videos - You ALWAYS light fires from below the fuel source unless it's alcohol. I have this stove and the large Toaks wood stove, and I always light the sticks from below using a BBQ fire lighting cube...
@joelabella7502 жыл бұрын
Stoves like this are quite handy portable less than a pound to lug around in your backpack and you virtually have an unlimited supply of fuel as far as your eyes can when you look around. I'm a huge fan of stoves like this preferably the ones that's convertible to multi-fuel use like the Firebox series of woodstoves that also doubles as a alcohol and canister gas fuelled stove.
@pedroclaro7822 Жыл бұрын
You can use this with an alcohol stove. Here's what I do: If there's no wood then use the alcohol stove. If wood is wet then prefil the stove and dry it off by placing the alcohol stove on the bottom with just a little fuel. Then just light it from the top with a some kindling as usual. If it's just damp, not wet (light rain) i can usually light it as usual by lighting it from the top with smaller twigs, or split sticks. I've gotten 40 minutes burn out of these nifty little stoves. It packs down nicely ad if you choose your pots well it can nestle inside. While it's cooling down I place some kindling and smaller twigs inside so it gets extremely dry and easy to light next time round.
@melissahoffman4687 Жыл бұрын
Yes, you can use an alcohol burner. The wood gas stove will make a great wind screen.
@larryblevins30314 жыл бұрын
The one thing that is never addressed in these comparison tests is waste, The propane stove canisters are either as trash on the way or end up in a landfill. I will admit that they are far more efficient and convenient. A wood stove leaves nothing but ash,which do you think is the more eco-friendly?
@Skully317 Жыл бұрын
Folding twig stoves make for an excellent back up to your gas stoves, and they're light weight too!
@byatesperla Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your unbiased review. Not to nitpick, but a small correction. You are actually using Common Witch's Hair Lichen (Alectoria sarmentosa) and not a Moss as a fire starter. I also live in the PNW and have been a Forester for the past 50 years, and have used local natural products in the bush for many campfires. Mosses have a higher water content than Lichens, and the Common Witch's Hair Lichen also known as Old Man's Beard dries out as it hangs from mostly conifer trees. Good review overall.
@fbuffy284 жыл бұрын
Have used this stove in extreme conditions aka snow storm with mixed results. The foil on the bottom allows the stove to produce more heat and keeps incoming air slightly drier that can drastically effect overall stove performance. Also required is a windscreen as these type of stoves don’t produce the higher heat of the gas or propane stoves making boiling difficult or impossible under cold snowing and windy conditions without one. As mentioned in your video under snow storm conditions it is difficult to obtain dry fuel which also can effect performance. There is little control of how much heat either on or off with little ability to simmer. Lastly these stove no matter how clean the burn will dirty the bottom of your pot and the stove itsellf which makes a mess in your pack when hiking to next place. Like the ability to boil unlimited amounts of water as long as fuel is available but might be inclined to just make a small campfire instead if under cold conditions for heat and morale purposes. Fun to use but with its limitations. Good video.
@davidvaughn77522 жыл бұрын
So, Wipe off your pots and pans before stowing in your pack... sounds rather basic to me. My Boundless Voyage titanium pot and frying pan set comes with a mesh carrying sack which the stove happens to fit in and isolates the soot from the packs contents, but then I always wash my cooking utensils before stowing. So far, I haven't been 'limited' by this great tool and does not prevent the use of a traditional fire.
@MeetMeOutside2 жыл бұрын
@@davidvaughn7752 I agree, there really isn’t any limitations with these stoves. There only limited by the lazy or unskilled user.👍
@robertjones68804 жыл бұрын
boiled in 7 minutes, good thing it wan't 8 because that would ruin my 3 day camping trip.
@garywheeler20554 жыл бұрын
robert jones 🤣
@vinnyavalanche4 жыл бұрын
robert jones 3 day trip then I’m bringing my 27series Trangia
@doyrayburn26684 жыл бұрын
And removing it from the fire 35 times lol.
@TravisOG643 жыл бұрын
😄 Everyone’s in a damn hurry.
@asdfjkhasdf4 жыл бұрын
I have one similar to this. In rainy weather I use it as alcohol stove with a small bowl inside to hold the alcohol. I also sometimes use the alcohol to light it by propping it up on rocks and putting alcohol bowl under it.
@xenaguy014 жыл бұрын
1) 19:22 Gee, so I guess my Boy Scout training was correct. Clear a three foot circle around your camp fire before building it. Fire causes forest fires. 2) Too bad you didn't do a bit of research on how to use the gasifier stove. This is not a hobo stove, it should not be loaded and lit like a hobo stove. You load the burn chamber vertically, packed fairly full, nothing higher than a half inch below the gasification jets. Then you put your tinder on top, and top-light it, so it burns from the top down. Properly loaded and fired, you should not need to tend the fire, as with a hobo stove. And properly loaded and lighted, the gasification takes place sooner, giving a completely smokeless fire after about the first two minutes.
@xenaguy014 жыл бұрын
@ The burning twigs heat up the inner wall, which heats the air between the inner and outer walls. This hot air rises, and exits through the jet holes in the top of the burn chamber. This hot air mixes with the smoke and other gases at the top of the burn chamber. This makes for a nearly smokeless fire. As the heated air rises in the column between the inner and outer walls, fresh cool air enters through the large vent holes in the bottom. Thus, there is a constant stream of fresh air rising as it heats, to mix at the top of the burn chamber. If the vent holes in the bottom of the burn chamber are sized correctly (small), the wood will burn slowly, while giving a lot of smokeless heat because of the secondary burn at the top.
@xenaguy014 жыл бұрын
@ The burning wood gives off smoke and other gasses. They rise with the heat of the fire to the top of the burn chamber. Fresh air comes in through the large holes in the bottom of the outer wall, and rises to exit the double wall at the top. This fresh air mixes with the unburned smoke and makes the fire smokeless.
@tombrandt81372 жыл бұрын
Once you get used to using this gasifier stove, loaded with some hardwood sticks, and started from the top as designed, it will be way more efficient. Plus, choosing a small wood fire over a gas one is the better choice for out door camping. It doesn't start fires on the ground, just set it on a rock or foil. Great stove; love it.
@bbjagaa4 жыл бұрын
A load of wood pellets last at least an hour
@1xayekim4 жыл бұрын
Ive used both and often use both. Late Spring - Summer - Fall I usually just bring canister propane pocket rocket knock off that Ive had for years. Late Fall - Winter - Early Spring- I usually bring a fold down steel stove and a small canister propane with the pocket rocket knock off thing. Nothing beats the warmth you can get out of those dinky little wood burning stoves right outside your tent or in your floorless tent or tarp shelter... Its more or less a comfort item at that point but well worth the weight imo.
@lapicker10105 жыл бұрын
As you seemed to be discovering towards the end, it works a better if you keep your twigs shorter.
@TomTapping2 жыл бұрын
I always carry a Trangia alcohol burner packed inside my Tomshoo wood gas stove and a bottle of meths/alcohol. Then, if dry wood is hard/impossibe to find, the Trangia burner works exceptionally well inside the wood gas stove's burn chamber with the wood fuel basket inverted to raise the height of the Trangia inside the stove. I have a 40 year old Primus backpacking gas burner which is efficient and fairly controllable, but to be honest I prefer the wood stove these days. Teamed with a Trangia burner for use when wood is very wet and hard to light makes my ideal stoves combination. (you can also burn solid fuel tabs in the Tomshoo and just about every other portable wood gas stove.)
@robertshirley16722 жыл бұрын
I agree that if primarily relying on a bio fuel stove, that carrying an alcohol stove and meths should be mandatory. Too many times when fuel may be poor quality/wet, or it may start raining just when you are due to start the burn. Maybe some morning you have to break camp early and don’t have the time to enjoy your biofuel cooking experience. With an alcohol stove setup cooking can be under a tarp or in a tent’s vestibule. Also there is nothing to clean before packing .
@enzowarren98325 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a lixada twig stove. It’s not expensive, but it works for me. With my Stanley cook pot I can make noodles, bake bannock, and make hot chocolate. With a tiny grill grate that straps to my haversack I can lay it on top of the stove and grill small steaks and some veggies. I don’t think it’s really “practical” since I only take it out when I’m specifically hiking out to have a nice breakfast or lunch in the woods. On overnighters and multi-day trips I don’t take any stoves, just cold foods that don’t need cooking. That is what seems “practical” to me. I think having a stove while in the woods is almost always a novelty moreso than a practicality.
@dimitrifortounis47875 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of my lixada folding stove too. Really pleasant to use and pretty easy to use well. Think it all boils down to preference or choice though a definite boost getting a nice hot meal after a long day on the trail.
@enzowarren98325 жыл бұрын
dimitri fortounis I agree. Nothing better than comforting food when you’re exhausted and away from home.
@wanderingcalamity3604 жыл бұрын
Stoves are good for when fires are not viable for whatever reason. Is hot food really necessary? No. You could subsist entirely on trail mix, but God, would that suck.
@davidvaughn77522 жыл бұрын
They are designed to burn from the top down. You will get better results by vertically stacking thicker wood up to the point of the secondary holes working from the outside of the combustion chamber to the middle. Leave enough room to make a nest of kindling in the middle and you will have great results. My stove - is almost exactly the same as yours - and It takes care of all my cooking needs when in the field since it fits in my pack with little trouble, it is efficient, light (under a pound), and extremely convenient. I mostly heat water but also have a two-piece titanium pot and frying pan set that are just the right size to put the stove in along with a few spices when I strike camp. Fire safety is the same as traditional fire. Yes there are holes in the ash box, yes there are cinders that can fall through... that is a reality if one chooses to use these types of fireboxes. If you don't want to burn your deck down, dont build a fire on it.
@contention100 Жыл бұрын
Very Practical. Compact, easy to use, and Fuel is everywhere.. I bought one as a survival tool for the Back country. I never thought it may actually come in Handy for an Economic depression.
@elgrandefleau73593 ай бұрын
I have to agree that gas stoves are more practical, but twig stoves have ONE advantage that gas can't rival with, extreme cold. Most gas canisters can't function at -10 celsius, and even the best and most expensive ones that are meant to work in the cold can't handle more than -30 at the absolute best, while twigs will burn at any temeprature so long that it's dry enough that you can find decent wood, even wind is not really and issue since they're usually closed so the fire isn't blown out (well unless you're in the middle of a storm but if you're actually trying to light anything in the middle of a tornado instead of seeking shelkter then I think it's a you issue rather than the stove's fault).
@KLRCoop4 жыл бұрын
i am not sure about that particular configuration but others similar allow you to nest a small Alcohol stove in the body so you have a dual fuel stove. Some of them also come with a alcohol cup so you dont even need a penny stove.
@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget you can get a folding twig stove that pretty much packed down to the side of a birthday card, so there's a lot of space saving there.
@cuttnhorse20135 жыл бұрын
But you would have never ending fuel, compared to fuel burners which would have to be refueled after a few days.
@ButchCassidyAndSundanceKid Жыл бұрын
When you did the weight-in of all 3 types of stoves, you were comparing apple and orange, the Jetboil already has a container you can cook and boil food in whereas with the alcohol and twig stoves, you've to bring other paraphernalia such as frying or sauce pans. By the way, I paid my twig gasifier stove for $11 and I've been using it for over 3 years, never regretted it. For me, it's the best cooking stove in the wild.
@BradMitchellPhoto Жыл бұрын
Good point. Makes the twig stove solution even heavier. Still, I enjoy the quiet operation of the twig stove for canoeing, kayaking and car camping, where weight isn't an issue.
@peetsnort Жыл бұрын
I think a copper sleeve that fits over your cooking pot would eliminate the soot problem. An identical pot made of pure copper would also bring the heat up the sides of the cooking container. Then when cooked you just slide out the clean pot and use it as your clean eating plate /pot /pan
@gary7vn2 жыл бұрын
I can see these being useful on longer trips as a secondary/backup stove. When I wake up I want a coffee. Fast. Nothing will do that better than propane or white gas.
@gary7vn2 жыл бұрын
I should add that using one of these makes your pots/pans truly filthy. Gas does not do that.
@BradMitchellPhoto2 жыл бұрын
It is hard to beat something like a Jetboil for speed. But I do prefer to ALSO bring a twig stove on canoeing and sea kayaking trips. I think a twig stove would also be great for lowland forest backpacking, but most of my backpacking is in alpine or subalpine mountains, where I prefer to leave the twigs right where they are (and fires are often banned in these areas). Happy camping!
@mannihh52745 ай бұрын
One of the best stove designs ever - no need to carry any fuel. The secondary burn does not only give a cleaner burn, it saves a lot of fuel too. In my experience you just need around half the amount of wood. To my knowledge, a fire-ban prohibits the use of all stoves, that provide an open flame, so no advantage with white spirit or propane burners either. Most of your twigs are way too big for this stove - to work properly, the top air vents have to be above the fuel. The proper way to operate these stoves is to fill them tightly to the top air vents and fire them up from above - should have read the manual first or watched some of the hundreds of YT-videos that are out there. If everything is wet, a spoonful of wood pellets put on top before igniting would help - that's the smart thing about upside-down fires, the actual flame dries out the next top layer of wood by its radiant heat, but doesn't produce enough steam to effect the burn. You can always cut some bigger dead limbs and split them in quarts, the dry inside will readily catch, just need a bit more kindling than usual (not, if you're using fatwood for kindling). Why do you bother with the boil time, what do you achieve in those 3-5 minutes you can save with one of the other stoves? And why do you bother about cooling time? If you are in such a hurry, toss it in a creek or pond to cool instantly (try that with one of the other stoves and see what happens). Notice: if a wood gasifier stove produces gray or black smoke after 30 seconds in, you didn't operate it the way it should be ! IMHO not a fair comparison.
@zoltanvonsomogyi72724 жыл бұрын
You have no idea how to use a wood gassifier stove. Pack it with wood first, don't cover the gas holes with fuel, put tinder on top and then light it. Also, no soot if you wait for gasses to start burning before cooking. No smoke will be your clue that it's working right. Poorly done comparison, friend.
@Sagittarius-A-Star4 жыл бұрын
Thanks.Saved me 24 minutes and 47 seconds of my lifetime.
@CJ-tx5hg4 жыл бұрын
Wait- I have this stove and struggle to keep it burning (unless I use bone-dry store bought shims!) So you're saying put the "bigger" twigs on the bottom and the lighter "tinder"/moss etc on TOP of the twigs??? And by 'gas holes" do you mean the holes along the top rim that shoot out the secondary-burn flames?
@Sagittarius-A-Star4 жыл бұрын
@@CJ-tx5hg He is right. In this way the smoke is also burnt - like in a rocket stove.
@zoltanvonsomogyi72724 жыл бұрын
@@CJ-tx5hg yes! Don't start the fire from the bottom up. These light from the top down! And yes, don't cover those holes along the top. You will see jets of flame coming out of those holes when it's well lit. Try it!
@Chaotic_Enigma4 жыл бұрын
I got my stove a few years ago (and learned the proper way) so coming back to YT tonight I'm surprised some are still using them incorrectly. Oh well lol
@kuzinit2374 Жыл бұрын
They are practical, and also good to put a alcohol stove in or use charcoal instead of twigs
@ahorseman4ever13 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your video, infact enough with this video to earn a subscription. Something to look at is the Kelly kettles especially if canoeing or kayaking. Boils water incredibly fast. I have built my own wood gasifier stoves and the most important thing I've learned is fuel management. Smaller chunks of wood is optimal. In wet conditions I baton sticks with my knife and only use the center of the stick eliminating all the wet wood. Good video. Can't wait to watch your other videos.
@wallytaggart26124 жыл бұрын
For cook kit fanboys or peeps looking for options I have a similar cheap gasifier stove nests perfectly in a tomshoo 1600ml (@1300ml w/o frypan just lid) and you can fit a fancy feast stove and 2-3 oz of alcohol as a back up in it. An absolute complete cook set for less than the jetboil or the msr and could be four season like the msr...fits better than my solo.
@joshnagenmurugiah45313 жыл бұрын
I would suggest campers bring both twig and gas stoves.
@donmoroz55023 жыл бұрын
One idea is to cut a round shape from a dollar store frying pan spatter shield to fit inside the twig stove fire pot. Keeps ashes and embers in the pot and allows air in for combustion. Might weigh 10 grams or less. .
@thebarkingmouse5 ай бұрын
I to cold weather camping all the time. I carry a few esbit tablets and fatwood pieces. Then wet wood is no issue. Fill the stove with small twigs on the bottom up to inch diameter at the top, put the esbit tablet or fatwood under the stove & light it. It will dry out the twigs plenty quick & the rest will go. You can find plenty of fatwood in any pihe forest. Or after cooking, you can dry more twigs for your next camp, and pack the dry tinder with you.
@davebloggs2 жыл бұрын
well the first thing to note is you did not load the stick stove correctly. try standing all the sticks up on end and make sure they dont cover the top holes then light it from the top you will be amazed how well it burns and how quick it boils water, these burn from the top down not bottom up. I run mine on wood pellets they are amazing. as for worrying about the forest floor you can either pre wet the soil or find a none combustable surface. they dont run out of fuel like white gas stoves they dont make tons of empty gas cans that can not be refilled etc, I have the ohuhu version and its always in my pack fits nicely inside my cooking pots like a glove and weighs next to nothing. The oxygen for the fire comes from the top, the holes along the bottom allow air in and up the sides for the gasification process . used correctly these things are amazing . There is a time and place for each kind of stove but hyou would be hard pressed to get me to switch from the Ohuhu. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j6uZda-A062qj2w.html
@friarrodneyburnap43363 жыл бұрын
There is a learning curve with these but once. you put in the time they're wonderful....
@BradMitchellPhoto3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting.
@johngoodin344510 ай бұрын
One thing I love about the wood gas stoves is it really doesn’t matter if it’s wood burning or not. Any combustible material that can burn can be easily used. That includes wood pellets and some brands of dry dog food. The nice thing about using wood pellets and dry dog food is that they can also be packed away fairly easily so they don’t get wet that easily. Put some small quantities into a small dry bag or other container that can be used to store stuff away in a dry environment. I mean a 50 pound bag of dry dog food will go a long way in a wood gas type of stove.
@harrypierce12982 жыл бұрын
You can pack a zip lock bag of wood pellets for wet conditions. I'm uncertain if you could use pellets in a open fire ban area as it is similar to a bbq grill but I'd confirm with the park service. There aren't any embers to float away, but embers will fall thru the ash pan. Regardless I always put some heavy duty foil underneath it, or as shown in video, I have made a small stainless steel disc that fits inside the bottom and sits 3/8" off the ground held up by 2 tiny aluminum rods made from an old gun cleaning rod that slips in thru the vent holes at the bottom.
@gerryleddy54124 жыл бұрын
likes to hear himself talk and hasn't a clue about the principle of the top lit stove , but he sure loves the sound of his own voice. hope no one pays too much attention to this video
@Justintheinsane9 ай бұрын
I love cooking with my twig stove. I always keep a small baggie of twigs and some lighter gel or fluid.
@dimitrifortounis47875 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of my lixada folding stove too. I've also got a trangia that fits the lixada and is an exceptional backup combo. The trangia is also great for when you want to be quick and avoid drawing attention (no smoke). Think as a light weight and compact stove set up on a solo hike/trek they do actually work very well. Add in my lixada titanium cup/pot and its a solid light set up that works well for me. Cooking for more than 1 at a time though is a bit ambitious for obvious reasons. It should however definitely be more efficient than cooking with an open fire (depending on skill level). As far as a gimmick is concerned, on the fence with that one as it is an effective stove. I'd say it is a choice to bring one and decide to cook on the trail at all . Provided you are mindful of its purpose and limitations it will serve you well.
@madmarshman Жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of twig stoves, but to be fair to the jetboils weight, is that it includes a large pot/cup to cook/boil in. 👍
@geraldpeasley58345 жыл бұрын
What about solid fuel or alcohol fuel as a backup?
@stanlindert63323 жыл бұрын
What I love about my wood gas stove is it’s small and with a few bricks I can set up a safe fireplace and it’s tea, s’mores , enjoyment, whenever.... as long as there’s no strong winds,and use dry wood. It’s good thing to have in the kit.
@BradMitchellPhoto3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Easy to set up, and much quieter and more enjoyable than white gas stove. I stick with white gas or propane for mountain backpacking, but am enjoying my gasifier twig stove for kayak and canoe camping.
@thebarkingmouse5 ай бұрын
Been using the heck out if mine. I don't care that it takes a bit longer to boil water. By the time I'm doing that I'm either done for the day or packing up for the morning.
@russelllieser42264 жыл бұрын
Most states on fire bans include your other stoves.
@danielkutcher57044 жыл бұрын
A TOTAL ban on stoves? Never heard of such a thing. Open fires, yes, wood stoves, yes, alcohol stoves, yes, but ALL stoves, not yet!
@tornadokat4 жыл бұрын
Not true. Fire bans are common during the summer especially in western states but they rarely, although they will in extreme conditions, include liquid or gas stoves. The issue is embers from wood fires catching nearby vegetation on fire. They are also banned in some areas where the wood supply is limited due to limited natural growth or over harvesting by campers over decades.
@AzNpowangeFTW5 жыл бұрын
Another point you made is having a wind block, as the flame is very "soft". It will keep the flame directed onto the pot/pan for a more centralizing heat
@lindawebb31554 жыл бұрын
Oh... RE: Below We used more aluminum foil to connect the two sides at the top. Also used hardware cloth across the top, bent down at the edges to fit. That made a grill surface. Now that coffees are being packaged in foil sacks, it's hard to do a lot of the camp food recipes we used to use. (Remember rolling sets of two coffee cans back and forth to make ice cream in the heat of august?
@davidlaw233 Жыл бұрын
I have a few wood stoves of different types of and I've found them very good out in the field and use them as often as I can
@BradMitchellPhoto Жыл бұрын
Right on. I enjoy my little stove on sea kayaking, canoeing and car camping trips.
@antonius32334 ай бұрын
I use an alcohol stove and use a twig burners at the pot stand. Best of both worlds
@BradMitchellPhoto4 ай бұрын
Yep. A Solo alcohol burner fits perfectly in my twig stove.
@jeschinstad3 жыл бұрын
You can use these in wet weather, but you probably won't use twigs from the ground. Instead, you'll find a dry branch or tree dead standing and split it lenght wise, then saw off short pieces to get something similar to pellets. Also these kinds of stoves work best when fired top-down, because that gets the chimney effect going faster. Of course, since this burns wood gas, it's not as important that the wood is entirely dry to begin with since incomplete burn will be completed with the oxygen injection at the top.
@BradMitchellPhoto3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jo-Erlend. So maybe start with the driest wood you have available to get things going, then the wetter wood after that?
@Dydeeo3 жыл бұрын
This video was helpful to me without being too anal. I've read through the comments, and realize some people thought somewhat the opposite. My thinking is it's fine to be right on top of how to use something and benefit from that understanding. But, there's also the truth that not everybody does this and you got it to work anyway. That to me makes the stove more useful because it shows at least with dry wood, it is not that finicky. Good job on the video and keep going. I may subscribe also.
@BradMitchellPhoto3 жыл бұрын
Dydeeo: Thanks for watching and commenting. For me, the decision of twig stoves versus gas stoves really boils down to the style of camping I'm doing. I prefer twig when I'm going for a "Camping" trip (i.e. I'm hanging out in camp and prefer a quiet stove and the smell/sound of crackling wood fire). But I prefer gas when I'm going for a "Backpacking" or "Mountaineering" style trip, where weight and speed are critical (i.e. it is expected by the group that breakfasts will be quickly eaten so that we can quickly start banging out the day's miles or elevation gain). I was out sea kayaking last weekend (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZrF1pdab282xnqc.html) and took both. I cooked a boil-rice-in-water type dinner and pan-fried bannock bread on the twig stove. Then I used a Jetboil gas stove for a quick instant-oatmeal breakfast because I needed an early start to time the tides and currents. Two stoves are no problem when carried by sea kayak.
@thebarkingmouse5 ай бұрын
I always carry a lightweight cammed bypass pruner with me. Fiskars powegear 2. Makes cutting the tinder much easier.
@bzmudaifyd3 жыл бұрын
My left ear loved the video
@BradMitchellPhoto3 жыл бұрын
Hi Bitrazr. This is interesting. Someone else mentioned the "single ear" problem once a couple years ago. I replied at the time that I didn't hear this problem myself when I listen to the video on KZfaq. However, I just tested it again using headphone with TRS audio plug on Windows 10 PC, and everything sounds fine: audio in both ears. But on Android Samsung phone, I only hear audio in left ear. I got same result with earbuds having TRRS audio plug, as expected. But I can't explain the difference between PC/Windows and smartphone/Android. So then I dropped the original video file into a video editor and looked at the two audio channels in its audio editor. There are stereo audio wave forms for about first 55 seconds and for the last 25 seconds, but no audio in right channel in between. However, the video player still plays audio in both ears throughout the whole video! So looks like I messed up when making the video and didn't notice it since my PC was rendering audio in both ears. Frustrating! I will need to watch out for this in the future! Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Anyway, sorry about that.
@lindawebb31554 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of "fireplaces" we used to make in scouting when pre-made products like this were not so available. 5 lb can was the outside, with beer-can opener holes in the bottom. Then went inside an upside-down pie plate just above the bottom (lifted up with tightly compacted balls of aluminum foil). Once the sizing and lift on the pie plate were confirmed, the inner wall of the fireplace were accomplished either with a 2-lb coffee can or with multi-layers of heavy-duty aluminum foil with holes at the top. Firestarter dropped in the bottom (dryer lint or hair from my hairbrush were favorites) with twigs stacked around. The most fun was dropping in the match and clamping on the lid' Once thins got going, we could start using the cooking pots or our leaders' coffee cups. AAAHHH youth!!!
@BradMitchellPhoto4 жыл бұрын
We like to make fire starters by filling each cavity of a paper egg carton with dryer lint, and then drizzle some melting candle wax into it to stick it all together.
@brentlloyd79084 жыл бұрын
Before reviewing a stove at least learn to use it. These stoves are meant for a top-down burn, if done correctly you can boil a liter of water in 5-7 minutes from ignition (about 3-4 minutes from the time you put the pot on). Soot is only an issue if the fire isn't gasifying correctly. That said, the ash from this model is an issue, but easily corrected or prevented by several means.
@gregscountrycabinoutdoors73592 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of how the gasifier works, I have a Canway stove, I like it. 👍 I can't believe there are people out there that think that there is an inversion that takes place.
@BradMitchellPhoto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks👍. I really enjoy using my stove on canoe and sea kayak camping trips.
@j2male3733 жыл бұрын
Consider the Bushbuddy vs the Solo Stove vs Ohuhu & other knock-offs Solo Stove vs Ohuhu - www.sky-liners.com/solo-stove-vs-ohuhu/ Bushbuddy Stove vs Solo Stove - www.sky-liners.com/bushbuddy-vs-solo-stove/ The Bushbuddy stove has additional heat shielding on the bottom of the stove. This additional layer between the heat box and the ground helps to prevent scorching on wooden table surfaces.
@johnkozaczok37134 жыл бұрын
My problem is that after 5min. Or so, And everything seems to be going well, I add more twigs and the fire goes out and it just starts smoking like crazy and very difficult to get the flame up an running. I'm thinking if I create my own " fat wood" which is finger sized wood pieces soaked in melted wax, I will always have a flame. This will ensure that my new added twigs will have a chance to light, the gas will always be lit, no smoke, less carbon on my pans, as well as a more consistent heat for cooking. I'm even going to try to start with 1 piece of charcoal on the top and get that to light along with the twigs to keep the combustion temp high. I'm determined to get this down to estimate what to do for a pot of water or cook a pot of soup.
@Joshandjenaregoingcamping Жыл бұрын
I have a cheap clone and i love it
@BradMitchellPhoto Жыл бұрын
It's hard to go wrong at these prices for a gasifier stove that does the job.
@danielsingh94153 ай бұрын
Sometimes u can use it during a fire ban, with BBQ briquettes, and use ubiquitous hand sanitizer to start 😅
@therealchickentender3 жыл бұрын
As many have already piped up and said, I'm sorry to say there's a learning curve here - it isn't a steep one, but I use these all the time for my wife and I on many trips. They can work really great - I've several sizes - my fav is the original BushBuddy and a larger Solo Stove. But again, you've gotta get to know the stove.
@BradMitchellPhoto3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@whynottalklikeapirat2 ай бұрын
If you’re away for a month or more it can be a good way to stretch your ration of alcohol, spirits or whatever for a fuel burner, without having to make needlessly big fires and wasting time and energy on them all time. I just dont use twigs I try to get something a little more substantial going like a small swedish torch type of deal inside it. You still have to tend it but there’s usually a good 20-30 minutes of cooking in a fill or two depending on all the usual factors …
@devatwell3343 жыл бұрын
They were using tools like these way back in the day so cant go wrong. As long as there is wood ul get a fire going just need to adapt depending in weather
@dutchbeef892011 ай бұрын
I think the mistake made with these is this need to start cutting down standing dead wood and the processing of that wood with a an axe etc. when all you need is to pick up a bunch of twigs on your travels. There is many videos of people processing logs for a twig stove when they’re sat in amongst twigs and shrubs.
@sezmo4202 жыл бұрын
I love mine. Perfect for boiling up some water, heating a small meal, or for a little warmth. Top down burn, and they last a good while. Hard woods are best.
@BradMitchellPhoto2 жыл бұрын
I find them great too, for canoe and sea kayak trips. Not many hardwoods here in western Washington, unfortunately ... other than red alder in low to mid-elevations.
@tonyperone32425 жыл бұрын
In most southern states you could use a wood stove year round. Winters are almost snowless and wood is not scarce. Unless there has been a sustained downpour most woodlands will have some dry wood around. Even then if rain could be a problem you could buy wood pellets as a back up or just pick up some dry stuff before you leave. As you have pointed out it would not be feasible for deep winter where snow is melted for water and of course the extreme conditions.
@KnutFan4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review. I have tried both the biolite and the Ohuhu brands woodstove. I am not a heavily experienced camper but I much prefer the wood-burning stoves. Partly because they satisfy my inner pyromaniac. I also love not having to deal with the fuel. But your points here about being careful about fire hazards and camping in wetter climates are good ones.
@BradMitchellPhoto4 жыл бұрын
Betsy, is biolite the wood burning stove that also generates electricity for recharging devices? Was that electrical generation practically useful for you? I'm still preferring my cheapo twig stove on sea kayak and canoeing trips for quiet cooking and nice ambiance. But I generally use MSR "whisper"lite on about 3+ day backpack trips or JetBoil for 1 to 2 night backpack trips or even longer solo trips. Actually, a twig stove and JetBoil are nice combination for kayak/canoe/packraft camping where weight and volume are less critical.
@KnutFan4 жыл бұрын
@@BradMitchellPhoto Yes, the biolite does recharge devices. I did find it a LITTLE useful but it wasn't worth buying one (i was borrowing it) IMHO. I do not go out for long enough to need a recharge that often. Plus, the vehicle I was driving on my trip could also recharge. For my purposes, it it is a bit of overkill. I do imagine that for some people it could really come in handy. Plus, the biolite has an attachabie light that uses the the charge, so that is nice. It is pretty heavy, so not great for serious backpackers.
@BradMitchellPhoto4 жыл бұрын
@Betsy d Thank you Betsy. I couldn't see having such a stove fired up for a few hours every day to do any significant recharging of phone and camera batteries. I'll stick with solar charging for long wilderness trips bradmitchellphoto.com/blog/2020/04/29/solar-charge-your-photo-expedition-part-1
@KnutFan4 жыл бұрын
@@BradMitchellPhoto ah, thanks for the link to the solar charger. I'll check it out. I prefer that too. It took me 7 days w/ 2 meals per day to charge the biolite charger, then it was quite slow to charge my ipad. solar makes more sense to me
@KnutFan4 жыл бұрын
@@BradMitchellPhoto oops, that link doesn't work...
@wildernessman20224 жыл бұрын
Is use the dead limbs on the trees. As well as die standing wood it will work
@crazysquirrel94252 жыл бұрын
When you run out of other fuels, you can burn twigs for fuel and twigs are generally free. If your stove is a decent size for using twigs, you can make small Swedish Candles to use and those last fairly long. You may need a fire starter but those are light weight. Cotton balls in Vaseline, nail polish on cosmetic discs, fire straws, or a commercial fire 'puck' of sorts.
@MrRocque2 жыл бұрын
YET another 'misunderstanding' of what another KZfaqr 'thinks' he knows. These are NOT 'twig stoves' like a hobo stove or 'fire box' is. These are SUPPOSED to be filled with fuel then lit from the TOP and burn DOWN. Twig stoves are lit on the bottom and fed twigs through out the entire burn. INCORRECT videos like this (there are SOOO many on YT like this one) have actually caused manufacturers to 'concede' to these reviews and change the way the 'pot stand' is designed JUST to keep these ppl 'happy' (giving them a means to feed fuel into the top without removing the pot). This actually UNDERMINES one of the functions of the pot stand's original design: to direct the secondary burn to the center, focusing the heat. Way to go 'reviewers', ignorance wins again.
@billlyell83223 жыл бұрын
So you said twig stove weighs 500 for u limited days, the bottle burner about 150% for 2 or 3 days, the jetboil weighs 120% for about 4 days. I think I like unlimited use at lower weight over conscience of not feeding fire. Lol
@BradMitchellPhoto3 жыл бұрын
Hi Bill. I've been taking both the twig stove and Jetboil on canoeing and sea kayaking trips when, I am expecting decent weather. I find myself using the Jetboil for breakfast, when I can just hit that ignition switch and start packing up my stuff while waiting for boil ... no fussing with the twig stove. But twig stove is great for dinner, when it's nice to cook over a flame.
@angeurbain61299 ай бұрын
The answer is that twig stoves are very practical. I am even surprise that you ask the question.
@billlyell83223 жыл бұрын
The stove is suppose to have a little multi use pan to help catch ash. But I bought a cheap metal ash tray to set the stove base over. It's light weight and just under the bottom edge of the lower holes.
@BradMitchellPhoto3 жыл бұрын
My cheapo stove didn't come with one. So I just use the aluminum sheet that came with my MSR stove. Heavy gauge aluminum foil wold work well, and can be wrapped around the stove and secured by a rubber band for easy transport.
@rwatson26094 жыл бұрын
Great video, you could use a better mic. One forgotten point is that the wood stove is actually more eco-friendly due to the fuel not needing to be trucked in or having any canister waste. The wood stove can also be a continuous heat source when it's cold outside and you just want to huddle around it. Though there will be suet on all of your cooking pots. That's not a lot of ash.
@BradMitchellPhoto4 жыл бұрын
Good points. Thanks! I am enjoying the atmosphere of the twig stove over any of the gas stoves. And I just got myself a new mic.
@rwatson26094 жыл бұрын
@@BradMitchellPhoto Thanks for the reply and I look forward to your next video.
@lapicker10102 ай бұрын
Practical? Wouldn’t leave home without one! Most of my twig stoves will also hold an alcohol burner (Trangia) quite well. Here’s a tip. If you want your gasifier type stove to gasify, never over fill it.
@user-ve9xw5zx3b4 ай бұрын
Which is better solo stove campfire or this one?
@tammiebroggins2 жыл бұрын
I just got one of the foldup ones . It's amazing
@BradMitchellPhoto2 жыл бұрын
Fold up would be so much more compact. But does it have hollow walls with the gasifier effect?
@tammiebroggins2 жыл бұрын
@@BradMitchellPhoto I don't know what that is. But it's cold out and it kept me warm lol
@ferlinternofsky44724 жыл бұрын
Try wood pellets they work 👍
@jayhouston16144 жыл бұрын
Much more practical then your little gas canisters and esbit tabs! Wood you can just find anywhere!
@crazysquirrel9425 Жыл бұрын
Baton some wood into mini sweedish candles to fit inside.Lasts a lot longer than twigs alone.
@BradMitchellPhoto Жыл бұрын
Something like half inch rounds into quarter inch wedges, or more like one inch rounds into half inch wedges?
@crazysquirrel9425 Жыл бұрын
@@BradMitchellPhoto It depends on what you are using the stove for and the space allowed for fuel. Bigger pieces burn longer. Smaller pieces burn hotter and faster.
@rronmar Жыл бұрын
Most all of these style stoves appear to me to have too much primary air(too many holes in the bottom of the burn chamber). They also burn better when you load some wood in first then start your fire on top of that…
@allanphelps2684 жыл бұрын
I have the Wild Stove, the original of this type of Wood Stove (from the U.K.). It can be persnicity to get going at times. When not wanting to fiddle with fire, I place my Esbit alcohol stove within just the bottom section of the wood stove. After discovering this combo, I never bring my white gas or isobutane stoves again. BTW, Esbit stoves are immediately snuffable, one the requirements during a fire ban.
@BradMitchellPhoto4 жыл бұрын
Yes, my Canway stove is very similar to one of the Wild stoves. If I assemble the inner chamber up-side-down, it then supports an alcohol stove just under a pot. This provides the option to burn wood or alcohol, both of which are so much quieter compared to a noisy white gas jet.
@FrankDorman-vi1ym8 ай бұрын
Carry stick stoves full of sticks and ready to go by prepacking them with dry wood.
@nothingtoseehere46844 жыл бұрын
air does not flow up the center once it is primed. That is also why you should light from top
@jeschinstad3 жыл бұрын
You should light from the top because it's less metal and air to heat, getting to the chimney effect sooner.
@nothingtoseehere46843 жыл бұрын
@@jeschinstad Huh? My stove burns on the bottom once primed and no flame rises up the center. The flames all come out the jets
@nothingtoseehere46843 жыл бұрын
@@jeschinstad dont take my word for it. This guy seems to have done a god amount of research.. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/la2BpJx0yNadpXk.html
@jeschinstad3 жыл бұрын
@@nothingtoseehere4684: I don't have to take a video for it either, because I know how it works. The reason why the flames shoot out of the oxygen holes, is that's where the oxygen is. It is always easier to lift a small amount than a large one, unless, you know.
@nothingtoseehere46843 жыл бұрын
@@jeschinstad you seem impervious to information. These guys at science direct could use a guy like you who just knows because he knows www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/updraft-gasifiers
@HALEdigitalARTS4 жыл бұрын
From a sustainability standpoint, you will always have fuel available, even if you have to keep it from getting wet by setting some aside ahead of time. Guessing the unit should last for years. But man, it seams like every wood burner out there soots up your pots. Suppose if you keep 'em separated, it won't get your other things dirty.
@xenaguy013 жыл бұрын
Properly loaded and burned, this type of wood stove will not make smoke or soot.
@glenparker2343 жыл бұрын
Also, smear dish soap on the bottom of the pan before cooking will take care of the soot problem if you start cooking before the fire settles down.
@Radoslaw7313 жыл бұрын
Lot of People dont know how to use wood gas stove
@totoroben Жыл бұрын
Not quite apples to apples if you're counting the cook pot for the jet boil. For fuel canisters, the amount of canister weight vs fuel contained goes down as you get larger containers, so if you need to bring two small, it's probably better to just go the next size up. Another suggestion, and take at your own risk, is refill the isobutane with butane from the Asian store. Downside is cold temp performance. Here's a reference for fuel canister weight vs canister weight, and even looking at alcohol stove option: 110 g isobutane canister 219 g full 109 g tare weight 100% of fuel weight 227 g isobutane canister 385 g full 158 tare weight 70% of fuel weight 450 g isobutane canister 652 g full 202 g tare weight 45% of fuel weight 465 g green propane canister 907 g full 442 g tare weight 95% of fuel weight 227 g butane "spray can" canister 335 g full 108 g tare weight 47% of fuel weight 227 grams alcohol fuel 257 grams full 30 gram tare weight 13% of fuel weight Penalty because alcohol is half as efficient per weight: 113 grams effective 257 grams full 30 gram tare weight Bottle is still 27% of fuel weight
@pjcardone1642 жыл бұрын
Try Wood pellets, they work great
@caniaccharlie10 ай бұрын
I have a couple twig stoves, a couple rocket engine cannister stoves, and a couple alcohol burners. I twig stoves are the most fun, alcohol stoves are a little better if I'm gonna be in a more populated area or trail and want the more stealthy approach. Then the mini rocket engines, I guess they're useful for doing what they are supposed to do, just noisy and no fun.