Twilight Sleep: The Horrifying Way In Which Early 20th Century Women Gave Birth

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Today I Found Out

Today I Found Out

2 жыл бұрын

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@TodayIFoundOut
@TodayIFoundOut 2 жыл бұрын
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@picolete
@picolete 2 жыл бұрын
One of the treatments from Keeps uses Finesteride, one should always consult with a doctor and get some blood testing before using that and one month later to see if its producing hormonal problems
@neilfox9854
@neilfox9854 2 жыл бұрын
Male pattern baldness, the affliction of the lesser man. Yes, I heard that on this channel.
@blakemtg47
@blakemtg47 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite is the baby centrifuge
@darrenswails
@darrenswails 2 жыл бұрын
I like that he goes right in to the ad so I waste no time hitting ⏩⏩⏩⏩⏩⏩⏩⏩⏩⏩⏩⏩
@Mrs_B
@Mrs_B 2 жыл бұрын
Bald is hot 🤓🤩
@lisaheisey6168
@lisaheisey6168 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother gave birth to my mom, aunt, & uncle while being in her words "knocked out cold" and she apparently loved it. She said, "Who would want to be awake, for something like that? I went to sleep, and when I woke up, they handed me my baby all clean and wrapped in a blanket."
@taylorbug9
@taylorbug9 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao your grandma is my kinda lady.
@pmberkeley
@pmberkeley 2 жыл бұрын
She doesn't know what she was missing though.
@pansprayers
@pansprayers 2 жыл бұрын
@@pmberkeley pretty sure that she didn't care. I loved being knocked out for my youngest. Doesn't matter, though. As long as mom and baby are safe and healthy, that's what counts.
@lisaheisey6168
@lisaheisey6168 2 жыл бұрын
@@pmberkeley She knew. She worked in the maternity ward of a hospital. Lol
@pmberkeley
@pmberkeley 2 жыл бұрын
@@pansprayers define safe and healthy...
@Kahsimiah
@Kahsimiah 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, so if I understand this right: it was initially a good method for the time, if done correctly and scientifically accurate. But then it was hyped so hard, the new "experts" didn't have the time to care about the patients and were sloppy, so they ruined it for everyone.
@EskChan19
@EskChan19 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. When done right it was a great method, but as usual, quacks wanted to make a quick buck with it so ruined it for everyone.
@johnkeck
@johnkeck 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like there were also side effects of the technique even when done right: the increase in postpartum depression, etc.
@audreymuzingo933
@audreymuzingo933 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnkeck I don't know about an overall increase. The narration just described one woman's personal account, and one nurse's opinion. And without remembering the trauma of pain and fear, it's possible that some women escaped PPD that they would have otherwise experienced, may have even caused a net DECREASE in it. But for those who were troubled by the disbelief that they'd given birth, well they couldn't have the other parent or any other family members in the room like they can nowadays, who could personally assure them that they witnessed it, even videotape it.
@matthewheathcock
@matthewheathcock 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the real world lol
@GreyAcumen
@GreyAcumen 2 жыл бұрын
Something that can work well when administered properly, and not as a mass handwaving for all of society? Something needing several years to understand the full ramifications of? Something that isn't being applied scientifically because the ignorant masses are too busy having opinions about it? Something where the negative side effects aren't necessarily physically apparent but manifest in other manners that we didn't even realize was important to human development and psyche? I'm not going to say anything, but... I think people have figured out which station this train of thought is heading towards.
@seattlegrrlie
@seattlegrrlie 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, women don't actually care if you have a full head of hair. We care if you treat us right.
@Cheeseisboss
@Cheeseisboss 2 жыл бұрын
Tell that to my bald single friend lol
@susanrobinson910
@susanrobinson910 2 жыл бұрын
GodHasAbandonedUs Got their number? 😊
@Bambisgf77
@Bambisgf77 2 жыл бұрын
YES! 👍🏻
@darquequeen2323
@darquequeen2323 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I think bald guys are hot, actually. 👍🏼
@meumnomen
@meumnomen 2 жыл бұрын
I love my bald boyfriend
@jerrylim6722
@jerrylim6722 2 жыл бұрын
imagine trying to counter argue your mum's statement of "I don't remember giving birth to a disappointment" but she suddenly pulls out her medicals records of Twilight Sleep.
@katherinetutschek4757
@katherinetutschek4757 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@whydoidothis74
@whydoidothis74 2 жыл бұрын
PLS
@bronminett4042
@bronminett4042 2 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂 thank u I needed that
@LunarEleven
@LunarEleven 2 жыл бұрын
😆 plausible denial!
@wanderinghistorian
@wanderinghistorian 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother gave birth to my dad under Twilight Sleep. She said she literally can't remember giving birth to him. She said, "I went to the hospital and came home with a baby. I don't remember how it happened."
@slcRN1971
@slcRN1971 2 жыл бұрын
😔😕
@melanietoth1376
@melanietoth1376 2 жыл бұрын
I've had a child. This sounds lovely
@yyg4632
@yyg4632 2 жыл бұрын
@@slcRN1971 its not sad lol
@sandyclaws5247
@sandyclaws5247 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds amazing actually 🥴
@karentucker2161
@karentucker2161 2 жыл бұрын
Dang, I don't mind the epidural but I couldn't imagine not being able to be conscious enough to experience having a child and see him or her when they come out.
@Xiassen
@Xiassen 2 жыл бұрын
This puts the trope of babies being switched at birth or stolen and replaced with a monster in perspective.
@DaWhiteWolffie
@DaWhiteWolffie 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap I hadn't even thought of that!
@Sattori_hikes
@Sattori_hikes 2 жыл бұрын
My grandma had 6 kids this way pretty sure she had issues bonding. Her words were they hand you this baby and tell you its yours..
@skyhightabby
@skyhightabby 2 жыл бұрын
The most terrifying concept of those tales is the situation where the parents, intent that it was not truly their child but a replacement being, treat them differently or terribly and in enough instances even kill them, with hopes of either stopping the monster or freeing for receipt the child they had or were meant to have.
@acanimatics906
@acanimatics906 2 жыл бұрын
@Sarah Hamilton Yes and as a neurodivergent person those teriffy me. I'm glad I wasnt born in the past. My 'older Millenial' parents already tried to pray the "hold of unholy beings" of of me and to uncorrupt my soul. My mom made me drink holy water and stuff. Like I'm autistic mom not the spawn of Satan. Neither your crystals nor your praying and Facebook diets will "fix" me. Therapy would help greatly though so consider it maybe. Don't even want to imagine how much I would have suffered in the past. Nope.
@rosiehawtrey
@rosiehawtrey 2 жыл бұрын
@Sarah Hamilton Ah those lovely people exposing "different" or unwanted babies for the fairies in the UK and Europe.. Notably portrayed in "Outlander" or "How to be Suicidal in Scotland: The Series". The dozy daughter Brianna, cute, but thicker than a yard of lard and all the survival instincts of a lemming on Ben Nevis. Hmm, winter in the Highlands and your supplies are some sarnies and a penknife. For the love of God girl, you've broken your ankle - have ye not heard of a walking stick...? Or those nice civilised Romans washing babies in wine (alcohol + baby can induce seizures). The highlight are some of the South American tribes - living in deserts like the Atacama, so nasty an area they didn't give kids names until they were 3 years old - and it's got worse since then...
@cynhanrahan4012
@cynhanrahan4012 2 жыл бұрын
While giving birth to me, my mother was anesthetized to "twilight sleep" to the point where she passed out and couldn't push. I was dragged out of her with the use of forceps slightly above my temples. It squished my skull so well that there is no new born picture of me. That was 1959. I still have scars inside my hairline that every hairdresser ever has commented on. So my first head injury happened during birth.
@slcRN1971
@slcRN1971 2 жыл бұрын
YIKES‼️ In the 1970s where I gave birth (and later worked for a few months), the use of scopolamine ‘twilight sleep’ was still used. Having seen the effects that it had on both the laboring women and on the newborns........ I refused to let them give it to me. It makes me wonder if they had used ‘mid-forceps’ to deliver you!? No longer used now (at least as far as I know), those type forceps could result in injuries both to the mother as well as the newborn!!
@audreysark4061
@audreysark4061 2 жыл бұрын
YES! I have newborn pictures but my head is shaped like a peanut! 😆😬 I'm told that the 1st thing my father said was, "What's wrong with it's head?" (Luckily my skull became more or less normal shaped!)
@sarahv7816
@sarahv7816 2 жыл бұрын
My mom had almost the exact same experience while giving birth to one of my brothers, and he also suffered head damage from the use of forceps and has permanent mild brain damage. Absolutely barbaric to thing so many babies and mothers endured this.
@audreysark4061
@audreysark4061 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarahv7816 That's awful! I'm so sorry.
@janicesullivan8942
@janicesullivan8942 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, there is a patch of my scalp that was damaged from forceps.
@kahlzun
@kahlzun 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, sounds like the issue was less the procedure as opposed to the procedure being not done right
@user-et6cr6qd8v
@user-et6cr6qd8v 2 жыл бұрын
german doctor: lets make this right to help ze patient american doctor: money money
@juliacatherine2524
@juliacatherine2524 2 жыл бұрын
It sounded like they were being pressured into it by the women of the time. Money probably was a factor, but the popularity of it increasing so rapidly and the lack of time to get proper training also seemed to play a role. That’s why it’s a good rule to wait and get more information before jumping onto a hype train.
@mintsolstice3535
@mintsolstice3535 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing has change....sadly.
@ltlredhen4177
@ltlredhen4177 2 жыл бұрын
That's because America has huge sanitation standards, alot of high tech equipment, Ridiculously expensive education to pay for unnecessary frivolities and design vs actual professional professors and people that LOVE to sue over Every. Little. Thing.
@cursedcancersurvivor
@cursedcancersurvivor 2 жыл бұрын
Is helping the patient involve the eugenics and ovens of ww2. Glass houses man, glass houses.
@user-et6cr6qd8v
@user-et6cr6qd8v 2 жыл бұрын
@@cursedcancersurvivor are you from england the country that invented conzentration camps? or from the usa wich starts wars cause of bananas and did lots of "reserch" on there own people? russia? fance? trust me you should not be talking about glas houses and let the past where it belongs in the past the past is a warning not more and not less
@AmandaGeyerSnobahr
@AmandaGeyerSnobahr 2 жыл бұрын
Hubby and I were fooling around for a decade without preventative measures. We thought somebody's plumbing was out of whack, since nothing happened. In 2003, we started looking into adopting, I got knocked up. I started making delivery plans by the third visit to the OB/GYN, and a major component was ALL THE DRUGS. Why should I suffer needless pain when there are proven methods, procedures, and pharmaceuticals to help me safely through the delivery of my child? What's the use of having access to modern technology? I never saw the needle that went into my spin for the epidural (I'm deathly afraid of needles, but I'm more scared of inescapable pain), but delivering my son, once hard labor started, took about an hour. At 8:08pm, my boy was existing in his own right, and he's a big ol' goofball today. "Natural" delivery is fine if one wants it. As long as everyone directly involved is on board with it, great. But if the pregnant one can safely access non-Stone Age methods of delivery, and wishes to utilize them, no one else has any call to deride their choices.
@JediLadyMisty
@JediLadyMisty 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard that if you’re trying for a baby you’re less likely to get pregnant but the second you stop trying is when you’re most likely to get pregnant.
@mmmmyeah1849
@mmmmyeah1849 2 жыл бұрын
He is as old as me😋🤣
@audreysark4061
@audreysark4061 2 жыл бұрын
Of course! Were I to give birth I would want all the painkilling drugs as well! No granola medicine for me. That's far different than the topic of this video, though.
@raimeyewens7518
@raimeyewens7518 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! I had 5 kids and I got a epidural with each one. I wouldn’t go to the dentist and have a tooth pulled without it being numb. So why would I have a human exit my vag without it being numb. To each their own. I prefer not being able to feel my perinium tearing.
@leeannjohnson1808
@leeannjohnson1808 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same feeling about pain, didn't bother with Lamaze (being asthmatic made breathing enough of a challenge!) so when my water broke and we got to the hospital, I pretty much said "Here's the vein, start the drip!" Luckily for me, they gave me Stadol until I was dilated enough for an epidural. I was dilated 2 cm at my last exam a week before my daughter was born.
@lenallon
@lenallon 2 жыл бұрын
When I was on placement as a midwifery student, we were at a home visit where we explain possible complications that can happen during birth and what interventions would be done in such cases. In the event that one of these complications did occur, the client would have an idea of what was happening. While we were talking, our client’s grandmother who had been listening in from the corner of the room, started to cry. She told us about how thankful she was that we were explaining everything to her granddaughter, and how she wished she could have given birth differently. She talked about being sedated, strapped down to a bed, with no explanations of what was happening to her. I’m familiar with more recent cases of obstetrical violence, but I had no idea the extent of it in the fairly recent past.
@ketnetty
@ketnetty 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately obstetric abuse still happens to this day, just different way. Doesn't take much search to find all the horror stories. Same for gyn exams. Women pain and emotional distress is still not taken seriously. Just look how iud and biopsies are treated. Husband stitch still happens to this day even if there are lower cases. And so on. It's one of the many many reasons why I don't want kids.
@lenallon
@lenallon 2 жыл бұрын
@@ketnetty Indeed. Many of my friends decided to go into midwifery because of their terrible birthing experiences. They realized there must be a better, respectful way to do it. When it comes to pap tests, for example, we had individual two one-hour sessions with a pelvic floor instructor. They taught us how to do pap tests using their own body. So they were able to give live back on what not to do. Most OBs first pap or vaginal exam is done on a patient, who most likely don’t tell them if they feel violated or hurt and probably believe that Pap tests have to be an uncomfortable and awkward procedure.
@leeannjohnson1808
@leeannjohnson1808 2 жыл бұрын
@@ketnetty Try giving birth via C-Section with an epidural that renders your legs numb, but NOT the area where the cutting takes place, and no one tests to see if you're numb. Yep, that happened to me in 1989. After my daughter was out, the Dr leaned over and asked if I was in pain! If I was the smart ass then, that I am now, he would have gotten a much different answer than he got back then!
@amorky8391
@amorky8391 2 жыл бұрын
When my mom was in labor with me they didn't want to "wake up the doctor" so they strapped her to a metal table and wouldn't let her move til he arrived in the morning. This was in the 80s. While not sedation its definitely abusive and I can't believe they thought that was OK.
@elenaderoet4926
@elenaderoet4926 2 жыл бұрын
@@leeannjohnson1808 when I had my son, my last child, I opted for an epidural. That was after a birth with Stadol administered at 3cm and another birth with nubain administered at 4 cm... to this day I regret opting for an epidural. I had my son vaginally, but the pain was so much worse than I remember it being for my daughters. And the anesthesiologist was awful. She told me that I would have to stop vomiting and crying before she be able to administer my epidural, neither thing was something I had control over at that point. And her tone of voice was awful.
@ZergrushEddie
@ZergrushEddie 2 жыл бұрын
"Some lady, long long ago, ate an apple so we shouldn't administer medicines to help." -Doctor Asshat, 1862
@marvinsteven3874
@marvinsteven3874 2 жыл бұрын
@@DONNALANDS Odd, because from what I know it was the forbidden fruit aka the apple from the tree of knowledge that Eve eat.
@audreymuzingo933
@audreymuzingo933 2 жыл бұрын
​@@DONNALANDS That makes it even worse. If it was just eating the fruit of knowledge (and then talking Adam into eating it too) then at least there'd be an ostensible, albeit moronic, argument for only women suffering as a result. But last I checked, it takes two to "sexually relate" so why don't dudes suffer for Adam's busting seed? In fact, considering sexual relations are pleasurable for both sexes but only pregnancy causes agony, I say God was advocating abortion! I mean obviously everybody gets to interpret the Bible any way they want, so why not?
@audreymuzingo933
@audreymuzingo933 2 жыл бұрын
@@DONNALANDSNo mammals have birth nearly as painful as humans. But it has nothing to do with jibber jabber from a book written by people (yes, men) who didn't know about things a 1st grader knows now, like microorganisms and the existence of the whole Western Hemisphere. Human childbirth is uniquely painful for two reasons. 1. Because of humans' huge brains, he size of a newborn's head is proportionately larger than any newborn animal's. Even with the unfused skull plates it pushes the limits of what can pass out of the woman safely. 2. The cartilage of the joints holding other animals' pelvic bones together softens via the release of oxytosin during parturition, allowing the posterior hole to flex and open wider for relatively easy passage of the baby. Because humans walk fully upright and the pelvis must fully support so much weight, those joints are cement-fused in humans, no flexibility even in childbirth.
@Valdagast
@Valdagast 2 жыл бұрын
@@DONNALANDS God also commands murder on quite a few occasions in the Old Testament. Very inconsistent on the position of killing people.
@rosiehawtrey
@rosiehawtrey 2 жыл бұрын
@@DONNALANDS You are assuming common sense from backwards collar merchants and godbotherers. It's like expecting sanity from a serial killer - he's probably doing it because the yellow dancing ants told him to. I devoutly wish I had a time machine and a Barratt M95 with a 4x18 scope - and the location of the person who invented religion...
@zeusathena26
@zeusathena26 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother had 8 kids, some at home. One story was her 3rd, with a 1 year old, & a 7 year old. She had to care for the cow, chickens, husband, the housework, all meals, etc. Her husband wasn't helpful. He wouldn't come home to take her to the hospital, so she had it at home alone, & got back to work. She called the doctor, & asked him to come by the next day to give her stitches. She's always been my woman hero.
@princesspentagram3458
@princesspentagram3458 2 жыл бұрын
What a strong woman she was definitely a hero but it saddened me to read not even her husband would help
@zeusathena26
@zeusathena26 2 жыл бұрын
@@princesspentagram3458 he didn't, & he was shot in a robbery of he drive in theater when two of the kids were still infants. The rest were in highschool. He wasn't ever very useful. He treated her horribly. She was better off that way. Bad thing to say, but it had to be said.
@myrialynn
@myrialynn 2 жыл бұрын
She was a super hero ❤🦸‍♀️
@zeusathena26
@zeusathena26 2 жыл бұрын
@@myrialynn thank you! She has always been my hero. She was an amazing woman! ❤️
@eunicestone838
@eunicestone838 2 жыл бұрын
@@kellybraun5013 I wonder if he was working or out drinking and philandering. That's sounds like a poor life for her.
@talkingmongo0se
@talkingmongo0se 2 жыл бұрын
The over-shoulder graphic for deadly nightshade is actually bittersweet nightshade. It’s a common mix up and even the show Penny Dreadful did it. Bittersweet nightshade looks more showy with its vibrant purple open flowers and exotic looking green spots so Hollywood likes to make the switch for prettier visuals. It’s also way more common. I have some growing in my yard as a weed right now. It grows bright red oval berries in the summer. Deadly nightshade by comparison is pickier with its growing conditions and has a closed bell-shaped flower. It’s purple color is more muted and it’s overall more unassuming. But it’s round black glossy berries are gorgeous. So yeah. Deadly nightshade has a ‘prettier’ cousin with a face for the screen that steals the spotlight but hasn’t done the crimes they have.
@chickenlittle5095
@chickenlittle5095 2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you that those black, shiny berries are gorgeous BUT due to chooks, I have to pull them before I get to admire them these days.
@catyfaurie9446
@catyfaurie9446 2 жыл бұрын
I now want to watch a movie based on this.
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley 2 жыл бұрын
Deadly nightshade and lily of the valley should get together sometime, they'd make a *killer* combination.
@rosiehawtrey
@rosiehawtrey 2 жыл бұрын
It's never Hemlock & steroids...
@robynsmith4164
@robynsmith4164 2 жыл бұрын
As a child we had deadly nightshade that grew in our (large rural) backyard. The “berries” were a shiny black color and the rest of the plant wasn’t much to look at. As an adult, I wonder why my father never got rid of it! I remember knowing NOT to touch or eat the nightshade berries because they would kill me, from some of my earliest memories! 😅
@georgiamclennan
@georgiamclennan 2 жыл бұрын
I’m currently in labour. This probably wasn’t the best video to watch.
@dollface2917
@dollface2917 2 жыл бұрын
Hope all went okay for you! Xx
@eredi
@eredi 2 жыл бұрын
Hope everything went well! Congratulations!
@luckally769
@luckally769 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations!
@trashbag6406
@trashbag6406 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so proud of you!
@georgiamclennan
@georgiamclennan 2 жыл бұрын
😂 thank you all for your concern! Baby girl is beautiful and healthy 🥰 labour was quick and relatively easy, but I did haemorrhage a LOT of blood after her birth. If you can, PLEASE DONATE BLOOD! It saved my life ❤️
@perrydowd9285
@perrydowd9285 2 жыл бұрын
I can't help but be reminded of the birth scene in Monty Python's The Meaning of Life. Mother: What do you want ME to do? Doctor: Nothing dear; you're NOT QUALIFIED!
@rosiehawtrey
@rosiehawtrey 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the NHS
@meemurthelemur4811
@meemurthelemur4811 2 жыл бұрын
Leave it to you....🤣
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 2 жыл бұрын
So they took something to ease the process that required fine tuning to each individual case and basically industrialised it...
@1whitkat
@1whitkat 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the U.S. medical system.
@celticphoenix2579
@celticphoenix2579 2 жыл бұрын
The good old "one size fits all" mentality
@mollysministuff
@mollysministuff 2 жыл бұрын
And like many industrialized things, it became a terrible and a nightmare
@catreader9733
@catreader9733 2 жыл бұрын
In many ways, it sounds like the ice pick lobotomies.
@cathiwim
@cathiwim 2 жыл бұрын
Its the American way! Better living thru chemistry!
@attoooh
@attoooh 2 жыл бұрын
Preferring post partum depression with twilight sleep over regular childbirth says a lot about the amount if pain involved
@OGA103
@OGA103 2 жыл бұрын
Having had 2 unmedicated births and postpartum depression...I'd take the births any day of the week.
@angelad3170
@angelad3170 2 жыл бұрын
It actually says a lot more about human ignorance and selfishness. Post partum is HELL. I developed it with my first child and it never went away, fifteen years later I still suffer.
@sweatergod5386
@sweatergod5386 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't postpartum depression happen when you give birth anyway?
@OGA103
@OGA103 2 жыл бұрын
@@sweatergod5386 it's normal to feel a little down after giving birth because of the lack of sleep and crazy hormones. But it's not normal to hate your baby and have constant thoughts of killing yourself.
@trixunofficial
@trixunofficial 2 жыл бұрын
@@sweatergod5386 It happens pretty often- my mom’s got worse every child she had.
@debshaw680
@debshaw680 2 жыл бұрын
My mother had twilight sleep with all of us. I had to do natural birth. Thank goodness I had my first one in the hospital because the on-call doctor was an idiot. My own doctor had left that morning on vacation. The on-call refused to follow our birth plan. My OB knew there would be difficulties. My daughter was too large and was a posterior presentation, head down but facing the abdomen. Babies are supposed to be face down. I was in labor for 33 hour with 3 of non-stop pushing. My mother had to throw a massive fit because I was passing out between contractions and the idiot was going to use forceps. Emergency c section. My daughter was blue as a smurf and not breathing. Her shoulders were wedged in my pelvis so tightly that they did a massive amount of damage to me getting her out. My other children had to be c sections as well but those were a cake walk compared to being forced to try to push a square peg through a round hole. Forceps would have severely damaged her. We filed a complaint, as did my real OB but I don’t know if anything came of it.
@ghoultooth
@ghoultooth 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry you went through that, but thankyou for marching through it.
@UnicornsPoopRainbows
@UnicornsPoopRainbows 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so so SO happy your mother was there to advocate for you. I hope that doc had to do some extra training because it seems like they skipped a few days in med school!
@languay1
@languay1 2 жыл бұрын
Both of my sons were facing up. My mother, who was a retired labor and delivery nurse, called that sunny side up. When my second baby was sunny side up, I asked my doctor why this happened both times. She said it could be the shape of my pelvis.
@Asharra12
@Asharra12 2 жыл бұрын
That really sucks but is such a classic example of medical professional just completely dismissing the woman in the whole birthing process. My mother had some pretty horrific experiences as well, though not nearly as bad as yours. Hoping mine will be better as I have choosen a borth center (a couple of weeks to go 🥰)
@slcRN1971
@slcRN1971 2 жыл бұрын
@@languay1 : I am also a retired maternity nurse (passed RN boards in the early 1970s) and I cringe for you!!! To have let you suffer like that is disgusting‼️ Thankfully your child and you survived, but the ordeal has left you with such an awful memory. Over the decades, I witnessed many changes in maternity care ........ almost all for the better.
@hathorthecow7146
@hathorthecow7146 2 жыл бұрын
Never given birth, but given how bad just my "normal" periods are I would absolutely be all in for skipping that pain. Sure, we know NOW that the drugs were bad, but this is from the same era where cigarettes lowering birth weight was considered a good thing and cocaine and chloroform in not-even-OTC cold remedies was normal. I get why the OG feminists were like FUCK YEAH.
@catyfaurie9446
@catyfaurie9446 2 жыл бұрын
Once a month I swear at my ovaries. Then my ovaries tell me that if I did something I could escape that pain for 9 months. Yeah. No. Still wished I could have donated my entire reproduction system in my twenties to someone who wanted kids. It would have made 2 very happy people.
@chotanya
@chotanya 2 жыл бұрын
@@catyfaurie9446 I suffered with very painful cramps before having kids. I had to take time off work and stay home the first 3 days of my period every month because the pain was unbearable an I would medicate myself and sleep it off. After I got pregnant and had my first child I never experienced those cramps anymore. I don't know if it was the pregnancy hormones, or the baby repositioning my organs, but something happened and it made it all better. I still don't have cramps to this day and it has been over 6 years.
@shanahaim5935
@shanahaim5935 2 жыл бұрын
I also suffer severe periods to the point I can’t work on the first two days. I expected childbirth to just be the same feeling but more painful. For me it felt nothing like period cramps. It felt exactly like having the worst diarrhoea ever where your stomach cramps up in knots. But that goes on for hours. I never had a second child 😝
@XSemperIdem5
@XSemperIdem5 2 жыл бұрын
@@shanahaim5935 remembering the time I got food poisoning that was likely salmonella (thanks Jack in the Box), I'm glad I'll never experience giving birth 😂
@ladyseshiiria
@ladyseshiiria 2 жыл бұрын
As someone having PCOS, my complicated pregnancy was barely noticeable minus the heart attack portion. I'd rather be pregnant and do it all over again including dying again then have my PCOS periods. 😭 Trust me. It sounds backwards. But when the nurse was like "oooh!" so excited "I bet you felt that contraction" I was like no. It felt like a fart. Are you kidding? I have worse periods. I confused the hell out of them when I was at the worst part of contracting. Meh 😑 contractions got nothing on Carrie.
@voshadxgathic
@voshadxgathic 2 жыл бұрын
As with any other condition, the doctors and nurses stopped seeing patients as people. Humanity may not be precisely scientific, but you cannot entirely discard that from the equation.
@sophierobinson2738
@sophierobinson2738 2 жыл бұрын
Considering how many people there are compared to the number of doctors and nurses, there's no wonder people are treated like cattle.
@slcRN1971
@slcRN1971 2 жыл бұрын
I beg to differ, as a now retired USA hospital maternity nurse........ I cared a great deal about those who I cared for (as did most of those that I worked with).
@Mythrose
@Mythrose 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about how doctors used to believe that infants couldn’t feel pain and instead of using general anesthesia they used something that paralyzed them but didn’t put them to sleep until sometime in the early 80’s?
@mellie4174
@mellie4174 2 жыл бұрын
OMG!that is terrifying!
@Mythrose
@Mythrose 2 жыл бұрын
@@mellie4174 I know!!
@roleat
@roleat 2 жыл бұрын
Early 90s actually
@marymoore3585
@marymoore3585 2 жыл бұрын
That explains a lot ....
@Mythrose
@Mythrose 2 жыл бұрын
@@roleat even worse
@susanjordan5949
@susanjordan5949 2 жыл бұрын
I gave birth one time, in 1978, without any type of medication. Not my idea, I assure you. I always swore that if I ever did it again I would have “drugs”. Apparently the trauma never faded because I never wanted to go through that again. And in case you’re interested my child and I were then and still are very close.
@audreymuzingo933
@audreymuzingo933 2 жыл бұрын
The #1 reason I decided to get an epidural was because I had a friend who was an anesthesiologist and a mother of two, one with the epi, one without. And she said she would never, ever go without again. And there's someone who knows the risks better than any armchair expert can say they do!
@cincyzoe
@cincyzoe 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone speaks out about the trauma of ‘natural’ child birth. There is nothing beautiful or magical about childbirth without any kind of anesthesia, it’s painful and messy. Thank goodness, after that horrible experience, I never had another child. That was my second child, my first was born under twilight sleep. My mothers doctor was still taking patients and he was old school, still doing twilight. He retired about a year later. 🙁
@acbutler42
@acbutler42 2 жыл бұрын
I had a combination of drugs. First they had to give me something for nausea, because my contractions were causing me to retch (I have low tolerance for internal pain like cramps/contractions). That one made me sleepy, as most nausea medications do, and then they gave me the epidural. I slept through the worst of the contractions, and they were able to wake me up when it was time to push. I was definitely in a haze while my son was born, but still mostly mentally present. I don't have much memory of the experience, and honestly, I don't need it. It didn't prevent me from bonding with my son, and I don't think I could handle giving birth without medication. The experience is definitely different for different women, though. For women like you and me, having drugs is the only way. Many women do still have uncomplicated natural childbirths. I'm glad that we're at a point where we can decide what's right for us, regardless of what others might think of our choices.
@kathiecassidy-smith2669
@kathiecassidy-smith2669 2 жыл бұрын
My first I had one dose of pethidine and a 7hr labour, don’t really remember much except when the offered me the mirror to watch, my response was I didn’t need to watch I could feel it!!! Second exact repeat, only I got a bit of gas which I hated and a 5hr labour. Third no drugs 1hr58min labour, was caught trying to get the nitrous off the wall, midwife not impressed lol. All three has shoulder dystocia, number 2 & 3 should have been c-sections. I was denied, cannot fight a public health system. My only requests in my birth plans were to have my babies born safely and alive; for me to survive as well and all the drugs, two out of three
@audreymuzingo933
@audreymuzingo933 2 жыл бұрын
@@acbutler42 "I'm glad we're at a point there we can decide what's right for us, regardless of what others might think of our choices." --YES. THAT. The great thing about the internet is that a woman can make an INFORMED choice. Well, assuming she doesn't just believe the first random article or blog she reads, ha. Certainly there are plenty of people out there making very compelling arguments for this or that, but the key is to spread your net wide and learn all the facts one-by-one. There are people so anti-drug that they will try to scare women into doing natural, but the funny thing is those people won't be there to see her suffering, will they? Heck to this day there are religious nuts who still think it's "God's will" that women suffer. I even remember reading pseudoscience garbage like pain being necessary to stimulate the release of such-and-such nutrients in breastmilk, and other reasons why the pain itself is supposedly a good thing. On the other hand you've got the doctors, including your very own ob/gyn who WILL be there, and truth be told, his/her most ideal scenario would probably be to schedule a cesarean during their normal work hours, put you under general anesthesia so you become like a car for a mechanic to work on, cut out the baby, sew you back up, wash their hands, put on their dress shoes and meet their friends for lunch, LOL! And there are indeed doctors out there who persuade women to make the choices that come as close to THEIR wishes as possible. The US in particular has an alarming number of c-sections done with no reason other than convenience. A woman might even be convinced to do it for what she believes is her OWN convenience, and I wouldn't shame her for it; I would just hope she knows about the added burdens and dangers of the long healing time afterward. But yeah, just the fact that we have such a wide array of choices that are entirely our own, after sifting through the barrage of opinions, that is wonderful. Let's hope it stays this way.
@EskChan19
@EskChan19 2 жыл бұрын
So as usual, americans got their hands on a good invention, skipped out on quality and made it as cheap and low-quality as they possibly could, then were like "This doesn't work" and probably felt smug about how much better their american way was compared to this "horrible european thing", when in fact they were the problem. Yeah that sounds about right.
@kattriella1331
@kattriella1331 2 жыл бұрын
As an American, can confirm, this sounds about right.
@ally8614
@ally8614 2 жыл бұрын
I'm mortified because this is something america would indeed do
@madmigraineur3815
@madmigraineur3815 2 жыл бұрын
America is where the vast majority of modern medical innovation is born, thanks to competition in Capitalism 😉 all the other countries benefit, so I think that’s pretty friggin fantastic. Sorry if I’m not “cool” for not crapping on America, but I don’t care 😊
@ally8614
@ally8614 2 жыл бұрын
@@madmigraineur3815 hey thats okay. (At least in my book) We all have different opinions about everything.
@tripod13mc
@tripod13mc 2 жыл бұрын
@@madmigraineur3815 I'm "not cool" right there with ya, mate! People have been done such a grave injustice by an education and media system that crams nothing but the most negative (often incorrect or incomplete) aspects of American history down their throats! Granted, I'm more than a touch ashamed of what our society has become; but I am so grateful for the promise of America and what it has given to so many, even if their cognitive dissonance doesn't permit them to acknowledge it. Feel so blessed to have been born in a nation that won't hunt me down for bashing her. Semper Fi 🙄😑🤦🏻‍♂️
@Mitolicious
@Mitolicious 2 жыл бұрын
As if we needed more proof of the extent to which Alabama lags, particularly in medicine, this is exactly how I was delivered in Dothan, AL, in 1975.
@uncletrash8770
@uncletrash8770 2 жыл бұрын
Woah. What? Holy fuck dude
@cnow82
@cnow82 2 жыл бұрын
I am so so sorry!
@makinitsch9113
@makinitsch9113 2 жыл бұрын
It was used in Camden New Jersey in 1979. Fact
@vaderladyl
@vaderladyl 2 жыл бұрын
Something similar to that twilight sleep was still used back in the 70's. My mother was sedated too.
@weebunny
@weebunny 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. End of 1972 here, but in Virginia. I was born at dinnertime, and my mother didn't meet me until the next day. I believe my sister was born the same way, and that was 1979.
@jennarodriguez9858
@jennarodriguez9858 2 жыл бұрын
Having given birth unmedicated twice (once in a hospital, once at home), I can say that the fear of pain is so much worse than the pain itself. Yes, it is difficult, but when a woman is given agency in her birthing process and has a team who supports her, she can do a miraculous thing with grace, dignity, and beauty.
@overlyblynn
@overlyblynn 2 жыл бұрын
@Nanna DuelundSame! My medicated hospital birth was slightly traumatic for me. My unmedicated home birth was amazing due to the full agency I had over my body and surroundings. It helps to have faith in your body and nature though. It's not for everyone. But it's its something you want, it can be a very healing experience.
@hhlagen
@hhlagen 2 жыл бұрын
Was so glad to see your thoughts on this. I gave birth twice without drugs. The nurses kept asking me if I wanted something for pain. I kept telling them when it gets bad I will. Never felt the need for it. For me an epidural was a very scary thing and I was more afraid of a needle to the spine than contractions. I had two good friends that were labor coaches and educators. That helped. My daughter has given birth 3 times now and has had wonderful experiences with all her births. Natural and unmedicated. Her choice her way. I was there for first 2, Covid rules would not allow it for her last.
@BonzoGal1980
@BonzoGal1980 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I went in knowing it would be terribly painful, but it would STOP. That kept me going
@HappysMomo
@HappysMomo 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t agree more!! I’ve had two home births, unmedicated. My first was more rough because obviously… you don’t know what to expect… but my second was much easier. Had an awesome support group and would do it like that any day
@Freiya2011
@Freiya2011 2 жыл бұрын
Well, with "beauty", I don't know! 😂 But it is more than possible, a good midwife is worth more than gold and the recovery is much, much faster than after c-section. I had both, first emergency C-section (both me and my son would have died if that first birth had been at home), then a natural birth, without any medication. I'd always choose natural birth over c-section although I ripped and was stitched up less than professionally.
@chrbotno1920
@chrbotno1920 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that I am seeing this while pregnant with my fourth child. When I was pregnant with my first, nearly eighteen years ago, the women in my family told me a lot about their experiences with Twilight sleep in the 50s and 60s. I had an aunt who's son live for only four hours after he was born but she was knocked out and missed the only chance she had to ever know him out he was alive. Gynecology used to be a cruel cruel thing.
@msdouglas12100
@msdouglas12100 2 жыл бұрын
My heart hurts for her
@elenaderoet4926
@elenaderoet4926 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the day, it was thought that parents being around a dying or deceased infant would unnecessarily traumatize them. They didn't allow people to go through the grieving process their own way or anything. I'm so glad I live now because the past was absolutely the worst....
@caracalcontinuum3118
@caracalcontinuum3118 2 жыл бұрын
Gynecology is still extremely cruel. I had my first pap a couple weeks ago. Felt like I was being ripped open inside. Doctor had no idea I was a virgin even though I told her several times that I was, (I’m religious so that’s why). I was in so much pain my legs were shaking. I was in pain for hours afterwards. I have a decent pain tolerance, going through a lot of invasive medical procedures since a young child. I told my doctor to go ahead with the pap but as the pain got worse, the nurse called it all off since she could see how painful it was. I knew it could feel uncomfortable but was not aware of how much pain I would actually experience. I wish I were born male, daily.
@elenaderoet4926
@elenaderoet4926 2 жыл бұрын
@@caracalcontinuum3118 it really sucks you had an experience like that. I've had more than my fair share of experiences like that over the decades. It really sucks. I was talking to my daughter about her post-pregnancy birth control a couple of weeks ago, and I had no idea that the US was one of the only countries that didn't give women pain relief or some sort of sedation before inserting iuds or even doing paps. How is it that we are supposedly a developed Nation yet we are so far behind in so many things? I mean I don't know where you're from, but that certainly sounds similar to my experiences of the last 26 years here....
@josiecamilo7098
@josiecamilo7098 2 жыл бұрын
@@caracalcontinuum3118 Take pain meds before you go and try to relax. Plus I wouldn't go as frequently since your not having sex you should be ok. Also go to a more gentle Dr. there's no reason it should be painful.
@thisisme2681
@thisisme2681 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother gave birth to all 5 of her kids via twilight sleep (this was the late 40's through late 50's). When I started having children she told me I was crazy to be awake for it 🤣. Also, random note, in the original Father of the Bride movie the lead wanted to have her child awake and it was considered controversial.
@slcRN1971
@slcRN1971 2 жыл бұрын
If we had a machine that let us look at how she reacted to the ‘twilight sleep’ medication, she might have been shocked at her behavior back then. Having been a hospital maternity nurse (includes Labor & Delivery) starting in the early 1970s, almost every single woman who received that med while in labor........... oh my, ....... they slept between contractions ....... NOT during them‼️ I wanted to put in for combat pay........ WHY!? .......... During contractions those same women: punched, slapped, screamed, fought, kicked, spit upon, threw 💩 at ........ their nurse (and anyone who ventured near them). Sure they had amnesia afterwards and remembered none of this!! I still remember it all (I reused that med!).
@dapdne4916
@dapdne4916 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!
@louisemitch1
@louisemitch1 2 жыл бұрын
My mother used to tell me how she was asleep while giving birth to me and woke up frustrated that I still was not born (I was already 3 weeks overdue). I found it hard to believe her until I much later read about twilight sleep. I was a forceps baby - born in 1956. Thank you for this enlightening video!
@ZergrushEddie
@ZergrushEddie 2 жыл бұрын
'Fun medical fact' Versed is an amnesiac drug routinely used during surgery. It causes mild relaxation but pretty much guarantees a lucid blackout, causing the patient to basically have no memory. My mother worked as a nurse in an experimental treatment study for pain control after bunion surgery. Before surgery, patients "were rendered unconscious in their rooms" before being wheeled into surgery. Everyone basically said the same thing: surgery was a breeze and they slept the entire time. This wasn't really true. First patients were given versed and a muscle relaxant, calming their nerves but keeping them coherent enough to answer questions and actually move from their bed into a wheeled gurney. She remembers patients often falling out of bed because they jumped up and didn't realize their legs were Jello, crying out in pain because of a snubbed bunion. After surgery, which was not full anesthesia but more akin to a wisdom tooth extraction with nitrous oxide, those same patients would say "oh, I thought surgery was going to be worse!" and how they "just fell asleep and they did the surgery in the room", remembering nothing of the 45 minutes affair from bed to surgical hall where they were being asked various medical questions. If you have ever had surgery with general anesthesia and just remember "getting the drug, falling asleep and waking up", that is almost certainly not what happened. You were breathing on your own, semi-conscious, as they removed the catheter from your throat and urethra.
@lulumoon6942
@lulumoon6942 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes! Thanks for the info.
@jdhutchinson506
@jdhutchinson506 2 жыл бұрын
This, while historically accurate is no longer true.
@mfaizsyahmi
@mfaizsyahmi 2 жыл бұрын
Basically the go-to for most SCP containment breaches.
@tprice6187
@tprice6187 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been had versed multiple times and remember each time, until I was put to sleep they have it to me to relax me before surgery.
@emilyk1502
@emilyk1502 2 жыл бұрын
I underwent surgery on my foot in 2019 in South Korea that involved sawing into bone and putting 2 screws. They gave me the choice of two options of surgery be fully put out and being given a nerve block (I think maybe similar to epidurals as it’s a shot in your spine that numbs you from the waste down). I chose the never block and they also gave me something that made me loopy and half out of it. I was awake and conscious for a some of the surgery and remember a lot of it. They strapped my arms down put up a curtain so I couldn’t see my foot. I just remember thinking of snuggling my dog or really high thoughts then had brief moments of clarity and remembered I was in the middle of having surgery and would laugh to myself. It was a wild fucking ride. I don’t fully remember it as it’s patchy and I was super out of it. But I remember when then had wheeled me out of surgery I kept trying to sit up and the nurse put her hand on my chest to hold me down and continued to remind me to not sit up. They also kept asking me if I was going to throw up. I wonder if it was a similar experience to that experiment your mother was involved with. I can totally see people sitting up half out of it and falling to the floor. They didn’t give me that stuff till I was in the operating room. I remember it felt like I was in the operating room for ages but the actual was way shorter.
@angryotter9129
@angryotter9129 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has given birth in the hospital and at home, I am incredibly grateful this is not still a thing. There’s a lot of pressure to give birth this way or that way, but nobody’s suggesting hypnotics anymore and that’s progress at least.
@katherinetutschek4757
@katherinetutschek4757 2 жыл бұрын
Did you prefer hospital or home birth?
@serenitybay5544
@serenitybay5544 2 жыл бұрын
I also had a hospital delivery, followed by home birth for the second baby. I would choose home birth hands down, even though I had no pain relief whatsoever. I had a three hour labour giving birth to a 11.5 lbs girl !!! UK.
@tremorsfan
@tremorsfan 2 жыл бұрын
Once there was a couple who were about to give birth to their child. The wife was nervous because she feared that she would not be able to handle the pain. Fortunately the doctor told her that there was a new machine that could transfer the pain from the mother to the father. Unfortunately, because men where not used to the pain, there was a risk that the shock might kill him. Both the man and woman agreed that it was worth the risk. The doctor decided to ease the man into it by starting on the lowest setting. He feels nothing. As the birthing process continued the doctor continued to turn the machine up higher and higher but the man still felt nothing. By the end neither one could feel any pain. The man is so happy about his child that he calls his mother. When his mother answered she congratulated him but told him that something strange had happened. The mailman had been found dead on their front lawn.
@blakemyrstol6895
@blakemyrstol6895 2 жыл бұрын
Ayy but on the bright side, that was probably from a time when ol’ not daddio could just go out to buy a pack of luckies and start over with a non whooooooore
@nellz72
@nellz72 2 жыл бұрын
LOL That was a good one!
@deee5520
@deee5520 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. That is just to to funny.
@bcaye
@bcaye 2 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@AnotherWittyUsername.
@AnotherWittyUsername. 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was the milkman. My Dad and his sibs were constantly teased about it. My oldest uncles actually have my grandparents occupations on their birth certificates. Mother-Housewife Father-Milkman
@seanbatiz6620
@seanbatiz6620 2 жыл бұрын
I could see this “twilight sleep” birthing method, still having a bit of practicality in modern times specifically for use, willingly and congenitally of “surrogate mothers’; those women whom are intentionally carrying a baby for someone else, as this method of delivery would help intentionally decrease an emotional bond with the infant.. something i believe is still a fairly common negative side-effect of such a practice. This of course, would HAVE TO BE a much refined variant of those original doses of med’s &/or, type of med’s altogether, so as to minimize any or all health risks to the birthing woman & baby
@collin3800
@collin3800 2 жыл бұрын
Such a good thought, honestly.
@audreysark4061
@audreysark4061 2 жыл бұрын
I understand the reasoning, but - & I know this is unpopular to say - males can only relate tangentially to this process. Consider that the experience of birth isn't like an operation. The hormones are there regardless. The prenatal bond is already there. For men it may begin when they see the baby but for women it usually begins in pregnancy. It's biological. The vaginal, gynecological, and other physical trauma/damage is there. So you know what has happened yet you wake up with zero memory of it, no control over it and having had no agency over the experience. It's similar to being drugged and raped in that regard.
@seanbatiz6620
@seanbatiz6620 2 жыл бұрын
@@audreysark4061 Agreed; mainly why I specified “willingly” &, only as a possible added method for reducing or minimizing an emotional &/or, physical bound from a surrogate carrier woman & the infant they’re producing ‘for someone else’, as there are so many instances or cases of such practice going array, with even some cases of women that put themselves thru such an emotional rollercoaster, that they end up kidnapping “their” baby(s), that aren’t even their’s, legally… I’m in now way suggesting a version of this Twilight Sleep be implemented MANDATORILY for actual use on ANY delivering woman whatsoever, WITHOUT her FULL knowledge/consent beforehand, only in this particular scenario, it “might” reduce or eliminate that initial delivery emotional/physical bound is all I was thinking. How such women are even close to mentally coping with that surrogate practice already, is beyond me… takes one heck of a strong minded woman to go thru doing that for someone else to have a child, and NOT be attached in some way
@jaymevosburgh3660
@jaymevosburgh3660 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanbatiz6620 That might actually be a really good idea. The medical community should look into it for that. I know a women that was a surrogate for a couple and she had a extremely hard time giving up the baby. Suffered from depression for years afterwards. She is fine now but it took almost ten eight years.
@Mongruadh93
@Mongruadh93 2 жыл бұрын
Scolpolamine was still used in the 1990,s when I had my daughter (U.K.)
@vinerwe
@vinerwe 2 жыл бұрын
I’m an Ob and find medical history fascinating. We handed over pain management to the Anaesthetists back in the 90s and have many options for those women who want it.
@jayhansen4918
@jayhansen4918 2 жыл бұрын
Hace you ever heard of the treatment for "hysteria" back in the 19th century? Lol
@loveshoves1825
@loveshoves1825 2 жыл бұрын
I find it intriguing to learn about how specific discoveries were made. For instance, Mengele's experiments during the Holocaust.
@pr0xZen
@pr0xZen 2 жыл бұрын
Any in-labor analgesics / pain management in use today, that have or can have significant, potential harmful effects on mother and/or child? Not thinking psychological, "experience" etc, but physical.
@mrshinebox1803
@mrshinebox1803 2 жыл бұрын
@@pr0xZen I have no idea what you are trying to say.
@mrshinebox1803
@mrshinebox1803 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayhansen4918 Exhausted doctor "I swear if one more patient comes in with hysteria I'm just going to tell them to go fuck themselves".
@amethyste55
@amethyste55 2 жыл бұрын
My mother referred to this as the "knock em out, drag em out" era of childbirth. She had me too late for that era and arrived at the hospital too far along for an epidural, so there was a touch of bitterness on the topic...
@whistlingsage9817
@whistlingsage9817 2 жыл бұрын
According to my mom, I was born this way. Not only did it wipe out her memory of me being born, but she couldn't remember the day leading up to, or the day after, either. She said what she did remember was like a nightmare, where she kept being awakened into chaos, where people were yelling at her to push, and then she would black out again, and it would start over.. As a little kid, I felt terrible that I put my mom through such an ordeal. I'm glad to hear that they no longer force women to endure this. 19th century scientists were really out of touch with humanity.
@slcRN1971
@slcRN1971 2 жыл бұрын
If her experience was like most of the women that I took care of as a hospital maternity nurse (in the 1970s timeframe) that had been given Scopolamine.......... she WAS... in a nightmare because that med. almost always turned off their inhibitions!! When the very strong and painful contractions occurred, they would bite, scream, kick, slap, spit, ........... for every contraction and then sleep until it started again.
@moozie2z
@moozie2z 2 жыл бұрын
This happened to my Nana. Obviously she said it was terrifying. She said they never told her what they were giving her beforehand, and she woke up to them handing her a baby. It was horrible, and very hard to feel Connected.
@slcRN1971
@slcRN1971 2 жыл бұрын
As a (now) retired hospital maternity nurse, I have seen what the ‘twilight sleep’ medication did to laboring women (and their infants!). So when I went to the hospital for my first pregnancy, I REFUSED the injection of scopolamine. The nurse tried to talk me into taking it (I did not tell them that I worked in Labor & Delivery). NO WAY‼️ It’s regretful that your grandmother had that horrible experience.
@mikeredd8833
@mikeredd8833 2 жыл бұрын
The idea that being in absurd pain connects you more to your child is absurd... sounds like something some one religious would say...
@moozie2z
@moozie2z 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeredd8833 I don't think at all that women should be in pain in labor. But she had no memory of the event at all and felt like she hadn't yet given birth.
@kathiecassidy-smith2669
@kathiecassidy-smith2669 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeredd8833 you actually do forget the extent of the pain once you have the baby in your arms, you remember it was bad, the the happy hormones kick in!
@RoyalBlue4486
@RoyalBlue4486 2 жыл бұрын
My husbands grandmother was forced to give birth like that. They were trying to put a mask with the medicine over her face and she told them she wouldn’t breathe it in, and the nurse told her that was fine, she would have to eventually. And she did, woke up with a baby.
@1whitkat
@1whitkat 2 жыл бұрын
Not for childbirth, but I had twilight sleep used for dental surgery several years ago. I found it to be very disturbing. I lost not one day but three days of memories, he overdosed me. Also, you have no way of knowing what is happening to you while you are under the influence of these medications. I refused it for further procedures even though it meant having to go through far more recovery time.
@JediLadyMisty
@JediLadyMisty 2 жыл бұрын
One horror story I heard the dental surgeon knelt/put a lot of his weight on a guy’s chest while removing his Wisdom Teeth.
@officialsarac0
@officialsarac0 2 жыл бұрын
I got underdosed and woke up in the middle of having wisdom teeth removed I was fully conscious didn’t feel anything but did notice a nurse noticing me and then telling whoever to “push….” Whatever the hell rest he said I’m assuming more twilight drugs lol
@kalinh8356
@kalinh8356 2 жыл бұрын
@@officialsarac0 That happened to me too, I woke up while they were stitching my gums and could feel it. I tried moving my head away and the doctor would gently coax my head back towards him. I was lucid but couldn't move and was trying to find a way to let them know I was awake. I was finally able to open my eyes and looked at him, and blinked rapidly a few times which startled him and I heard him say something to one the the nurses. After that they put me under again.
@evil1by1
@evil1by1 2 жыл бұрын
I have TEE testing done fairly regularly and I don't mind the twilight anesthesia most of the time. I did have an odd one last time though. I think the nurse messed something up as I was not under at all when the doc came in. He pushed more and it still didn't work, couldn't have any more so they did without it. It finished and I started getting irrationally pissed off at the doc. Then I left and went to get dinner and tried to fist fight the cashier, started fighting my husband then passed out in the car. I don't remember that night or the next.
@miaa7968
@miaa7968 2 жыл бұрын
@@officialsarac0 Is being put to sleep for dental procedures an American thing? It doesn't happen in Australia or the UK; we just get local anesthetic and are awake for the entire thing.
@tjiloveconducting
@tjiloveconducting 2 жыл бұрын
During my first childbirth, I had pushed for 2 hours to no avail. My daughter was sunny side up and would not descend. I ended up in emergency C-section, and at first they didn't use enough medication or give it enough time, and I could feel when they were cutting me. I told them to wait a little longer, and then they gave me gas. I was knocked out immediately. I remember waking up to them saying you have a daughter. I replied in a very hazy voice I can't have a daughter I didn't give birth! I fell back asleep and didn't fully wake up for 4 hours. The nurse had tried to get her to breastfeed while I was out of it knowing that's what my wishes were. I'm groggily sang to her and fell back asleep. When I fully awoke, I was so upset that she wasn't in the room with me. I told my husband to get her in the room right away. I had such a hard time believing that she was mine. She didn't look anything like me! I knew that I had given birth because I had been in labor for about 8 hours feeling all the pain. I truly can't imagine how these women felt not remembering all the work their body had gone through. This was very interesting, thank you for sharing this history.
@JaninaElyse
@JaninaElyse 2 жыл бұрын
I’m one of those children delivered in the 1960’s where my mom was sedated with twilight sleep. She had always lauded it as a miracle drug until she found out that during the process of birth, it is entirely possible she may have said and done things (or done to her?) she doesn’t remember. She was horrified to learn the true details of twilight sleep about 25 years ago. What scares me most is that my mother lived in a time where the doctor felt no compulsion to tell her what exactly happened during twilight sleep. She literally went to sleep and woke with a baby. That is all she knew for decades! Patient rights were obviously not that big a deal back then. 🤷🏼‍♀️ thankful my daughter’s delivery in 1990 was mostly drug free and this method was no longer on the cards.
@memawknowsbest4978
@memawknowsbest4978 2 жыл бұрын
I was born in 1970 and they gave my mom twilight sleep. She didn't remember the birth, except for a few flashes and she said that I was groggy for days after I was born. I'm glad I had all of mine naturally.
@slcRN1971
@slcRN1971 2 жыл бұрын
I refused that medication, when I had my children during the 1970s. Why ........ because as a maternity nurse, I witnessed this first hand. My labor nurses were shocked that all I wanted was something to ease my vomiting. After my youngest was born, I was resting after giving birth and over-heard my nurse on the phone saying that she didn’t know when she could go eat as she had received me only one hour ago. Almost every labor patient had that med back then, so she was quite startled when I spoke up and said that I was fine and could go to my postpartum bed now.
@llamasugar5478
@llamasugar5478 2 жыл бұрын
My mother’s mother gave birth to her first 5 babies at home with a neighbor to help. She was 17-18 when her first was born. My mother and two of her siblings were born in hospital, but I don’t know that she would’ve had TS. My grandad was a second-generation American, fiercely loyal to his adopted country and skeptical of things German, despite being of German descent.
@derp195
@derp195 2 жыл бұрын
Tbf, around his time, it was very easy to be wary of Germany.
@ms.donaldson2533
@ms.donaldson2533 2 жыл бұрын
I can understand the skeptic in him. "A sect of people" were allowed to Legislation to take a new oath in 1826, some of them proclaimed to be a particular type of German and ordered others to conform to their demands through additional legislation that they would later pass. This is how Rockefeller Public Health was created. I was raised in a neighborhood of Germans in Baltimore, they were fabulous with the history that they provided.
@jaymevosburgh3660
@jaymevosburgh3660 2 жыл бұрын
@@ms.donaldson2533 what "sect ov people"? Like Illuminati or something crazy like that? Not making fun, just actually curious. I like history a lot.
@hairyfrog429
@hairyfrog429 2 жыл бұрын
What is TS?
@OdinavNorge
@OdinavNorge 2 жыл бұрын
@@hairyfrog429 Twilight sleep, a kind of anesthesia between sleep and wakefulness
@lavonneambrosi8419
@lavonneambrosi8419 2 жыл бұрын
Simon, if ever anyone could make the best of hair loss, it's you. Nobody would think it wasn't deliberate. You look amazing!
@thesoutherncowgirlpoet
@thesoutherncowgirlpoet 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother delivered 5 babies in twilight sleep. My mom said that my grandmother woke up a little bit while delivering her, but other than that she was out cold. I couldn't imagine going through that. I gave birth 7 weeks ago with no pain medication or anything and watched my son be delivered through a mirror that my nurse set up. It was a wonderful experience. Hurt like heck but I thoroughly enjoyed being "present" for the entire birth process. Being put to sleep then waking up without my baby would be very traumatic for me - I didn't even have the nurses take my baby to the nursery during the night when I was sleeping, he HAD to stay in the room with me at all times.
@thesoutherncowgirlpoet
@thesoutherncowgirlpoet 2 жыл бұрын
@@GAMakin That sounds amazing. I would've loved to have a home birth, but with the Dr and medical staff I had, they really made the experience wonderful. Plus I was the only woman giving birth in that center that weekend. My next babe I'll probably have at home.
@slcRN1971
@slcRN1971 2 жыл бұрын
When I had my last child (1970s time), the babies had to stay in the nursery and only be brought out at scheduled times. I was breastfeeding (which about scandalized the staff) and had to get them to bring him to my room for each feeding time. One time I rang and asked for him and they said that he was suppose to be with me right then. Then they argued about where was my baby!! It took awhile to find him because a new nurse had put him in the wrong area of the nursery, talk about near panic!!
@thesoutherncowgirlpoet
@thesoutherncowgirlpoet 2 жыл бұрын
@@slcRN1971 Oh I'd be ticked off at that whole situation 😳 And so scared! The breastfeeding part surprises me - why would nurses of all people not be okay with it? Like, what?? My nurse that was there when I delivered told me to get my son to eat right away and checked his latch. This was while I was still birthing the placenta 😂 His umbilical cord was still attached
@mycatzluvme2
@mycatzluvme2 2 жыл бұрын
My sister had the “twilight sleep” when she had one of her boys, she said that she didn’t remember anything about the delivery but had horrible nightmares for years and years afterwards!!
@ThatGirl-tg7wd
@ThatGirl-tg7wd 2 жыл бұрын
She likely had a difficult delivery and these nightmares are fragmented suppressed memories.. inaccessible because she has no context with which to match them. Awful..
@KeketsoN01
@KeketsoN01 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatGirl-tg7wd scary ,deep sigh
@mommatanya1
@mommatanya1 2 жыл бұрын
I was born in 1956 in Phoenix, Arizona. My mother often spoke of my birth as being a beautiful experience. It was the only one of several that she was actually awake for. The doctor laid me on my mother's abdomen as he cut the cord and she reached down to stroke me and revel the miracle of my birth. Then I was whisked away for blood tests, etc. As my mother had AB negative blood and I was her second baby. But one thing she always talked about was that I was born with Twilight Sleep and that was why it was so beautiful an experience. Now I know what that magic was. I've always wondered what it was as it had such a fairytale image in her telling of the story.
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad she had such a good experience!
@ghoultooth
@ghoultooth 2 жыл бұрын
That’s beautiful
@barbaraagal1282
@barbaraagal1282 2 жыл бұрын
My mom had me under Twilight Sleep. I unfortunite was born a sleep too, Oh well, it did not affect me. As I have always been a very active person. I walked when i was 7 months old. My grandmother said that usually when babies start walking early is because they have something that needs to be done. I still cannot figure out what it is. I'm 70 years young. Since women in my family have a seem to live into their 100's, I guess I will figure it out. Yes both of my grandmothers on both side lived to be 99 years old. Had al least two great aunts that lived to be 107 and 109 years old. I like working outside my yard which is 3/4 of a acre
@slcRN1971
@slcRN1971 2 жыл бұрын
It’s good that she remembers only good things (scopolamine had an amnesia affect). Having taken care of laboring women on that med........ I needed combat pay!!
@abigruber
@abigruber 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear more about the history of dentistry. As a dental hygienist, it fascinates me. Thanks so much for all the hard work you do, along with your team. ❤️
@catherinejohnson1354
@catherinejohnson1354 2 жыл бұрын
As a dental assistant for twenty three years I agree. So much has changed during my career alone
@HaleyMary
@HaleyMary 2 жыл бұрын
Same here! I'd love to see a video on the history of dentistry, especially what it was like in the times before tooth freezing.
@XSemperIdem5
@XSemperIdem5 2 жыл бұрын
That's going to be a video about torture depending on how far back you want to go with the history. 😬 And as someone who has had some horrible experiences with incompetent dentists, you bet I will torture myself watching that video 😅
@angelicaapperson950
@angelicaapperson950 2 жыл бұрын
After undergoing an abortion under twilight sleep, I had nightmares for months that the procedure didn't actually happen. I distinctly remember watching the lights overhead wheel by as I'm being wheeled out of the anesthesia prep room, then it was like I blinked and suddenly I am in a totally different bed, in a different room, with a nurse just telling me to breathe and stay calm. I was shocked because it felt like I just teleported or something and I didn't feel any different. I remember a dull ache feeling, but it was so minor and I internally felt no difference, so I was paranoid for a long time afterwards that I was still pregnant. This happened 11 years ago and I am just now learning that my paranoia and fear over the event potentially not happening was not just me being insane.
@savannahforever660
@savannahforever660 2 жыл бұрын
What you are describing is LITERALLY the entire "surgical" abortion procedure with anesthesia. I had the same experience with the same procedure and although the dreams you had are scary, they are just that, dreams. When we are put under by anesthesia, we fall asleep and then wake up what seems like just a few seconds later. When of course, we were out for however long the procedure was. Anesthesia is literally designed to make it feel like just a couple of seconds, for our benefit. Whenever weird stuff happens, try to remember the theory of Occam's Razor: the simplest explanation is most often the correct one.
@littleboots9800
@littleboots9800 2 жыл бұрын
@@savannahforever660 Much to my regret, I had a termination after my daughter. It was not something I wanted to do, I felt it was wrong, still believe it, but felt that circumstances left me no choice. I was very distressed and went in for it weeping. I remember the doctor putting aside what he was going to give me and saying he could make it so I would have no memory of it all. Whatever he did, worked. I have no memory after he said that until I woke up in another room. I am immensely grateful. I have spoken to others who remember what happened, some just a few memories, some almost all of it. I daren't think of how much worse it would be to have any memory of it.
@cynthiaholland13
@cynthiaholland13 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry for your loss and the death of your sweet baby.
@inlonging
@inlonging 2 жыл бұрын
What you describe sounds like anesthesia, in general. It’s not like sleep, it’s like blinking and suddenly you’re somewhere else. Very eerie.
@miaa7968
@miaa7968 2 жыл бұрын
@@cynthiaholland13 This isn't the nice sentiment you think it was, and it wasn't a baby. I'm saying this as a woman who lost her pregnancy to miscarriage and not abortion. Given how traumatised this person was by the thought of being pregnant, what you said was backhanded.
@Darkflowerchyld718
@Darkflowerchyld718 2 жыл бұрын
Like many others commenting here my maternal grandmother had twilight births for the first 4 of her 5 total births. She described it as lovely besides the fact that you "woke up to a screaming, shitting, needy little creature that you had to take care of". She had no bond with her first 4 children. She thought this was normal. She thought all mothers cared for their children out of familial obligation and for no other reason. She was cruel and abusive to her first 4 children. With no bond to bring them together they were not much more than an emotional, physical and financial drain on her. It wasn't until she had her last baby later in life that she gave birth awake. She said that the birth was painful but only took about 3 hours from first contraction to baby in her arms. And when they placed my aunt in her arms she was instantly in love and felt that "magical connection" she thought other mothers only lied about. My grandmother never made the connection until she witnessed a similar happening with my mother. My mother birthed me "naturally" and my twin siblings by c-section while completely under anesthesia. My mother, like her mother before her, had no connection to her babies. It made for an interesting childhood to say the least. I wrote a whole essay on the story. It caused 2 generations of trauma. I'm only now breaking the cycle and trying my damnedest to do better by my own children. Despite the damage done to me I work tirelessly everyday to do better for my kids.
@breerex4957
@breerex4957 2 жыл бұрын
So are you saying that if you don’t have a painful birth experience you can’t love your kids? What about dads? Are they incapable of bonding with children too?
@Darkflowerchyld718
@Darkflowerchyld718 2 жыл бұрын
@@breerex4957 I'm saying for some people going to sleep pregnant and waking up to a baby severely hinders bonding. Labor, birth, and first few moments after birth are all triggers for releasing oxytocin but maybe if you're knocked out completely and miss those hormones, maybe it's just that much harder to bond with your baby. I also often wonder if the more men spend involved in the pregnancy and delivery of their babies, the more bonding happens for them too. These are all hypothesis that I will never be able to know the answers to.
@KryssLaBryn
@KryssLaBryn 2 жыл бұрын
@@Darkflowerchyld718 Huh. My first I ended up giving birth naturally, and with (by the time of active birth) no drugs. But for my second one I ended up having to have an emergency c-section. Afterwards they gave me a shot of oxytocin to make up for not having a vaginal birth to trigger my body's own production of it. So at least, nowadays, bonding shouldn't be hampered by something as basic as birth method.
@slcRN1971
@slcRN1971 2 жыл бұрын
Having worked during the 1970s, when this medication was still being used .......... I wondered about the after-affects from ‘twilight sleep’. After witnessing both mother and newborn, when this med was used (just during hospital stays) ....... I refused it when I had my own children (during that same decade). It seems that no one bothered doing any research projects. It’s so awful that this happened in your family.......... makes you wonder how many others had similar issues?!
@Brownsocksflirt
@Brownsocksflirt 2 жыл бұрын
Honey…just no. No. Your grandma and mom had psychological issues that needed therapy. How they gave birth did not create the lack of bond. They had years to form bonds but didn’t. That is clearly a sign of a disorder. Your hypothesis is a slap in the face not only of birth moms, but of adoptees and dads.
@glitchmango5656
@glitchmango5656 2 жыл бұрын
One of my moms relatives had her labour through twilight sleep. She was pregnant with twins. While she was sleeping and after she’d given birth the doctors took one of the babies and sold her on the black market. When she’d woken up she’d asked about the second baby and the doctors told her she was delusional, that there’d only been one. Years later the twins actually found each other and the who of the tragedy was revealed.
@Mjones5018
@Mjones5018 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my this is so sad
@susanallen3783
@susanallen3783 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my I'm so glad they found each other 1im so sorry mom that was very hard on yu I bet
@annaoddi2257
@annaoddi2257 2 жыл бұрын
Wtaf
@Maven0666
@Maven0666 2 жыл бұрын
My mom was under the influence of twilight while giving birth to me. Very educational! Thank you.
@Px828
@Px828 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@laurallewien2165
@laurallewien2165 2 жыл бұрын
Mine too...she had me on a Friday, woke up on a Saturday and my grandma said you had a baby girl and she said I didn't have any baby...kinda set the tone for the rest of my life 😑
@LostLargeCats
@LostLargeCats 2 жыл бұрын
@@laurallewien2165 I was thinking this same thing the whole video. It seems like a good way to encourage schizophrenia in mothers.
@slcRN1971
@slcRN1971 2 жыл бұрын
@@laurallewien2165 : as a hospital maternity nurse (1970s), I refused this medication because of how it affected the moms and their newborns. Hope that you are ok.
@kathiecassidy-smith2669
@kathiecassidy-smith2669 2 жыл бұрын
@@laurallewien2165 that’s so sad 😞
@moonprincessmk
@moonprincessmk 2 жыл бұрын
I have a solution: I’m not having kids :)
@meridien52681
@meridien52681 2 жыл бұрын
Damn straight! It worked for me and 40 years later, absolutely ZERO regrets. Never ever wanted 'em, don't miss 'em.
@ItsAsparageese
@ItsAsparageese 2 жыл бұрын
Amen to this, I got my SATA cables taken out and fried the motherboard (bilateral salpingectomy and endometrial ablation lol) just over three years ago and it remains one of the best decisions I've ever made :D Being childfree makes life so much better lol, kids are awesome and I'm friends with a few but the hell with being entirely responsible for one
@forrestemberscar6003
@forrestemberscar6003 2 жыл бұрын
Kid free and no regerts!
@mdstanton1813
@mdstanton1813 2 жыл бұрын
When you get older you'll change your mind...jokes! More people need to breed less. I dont get why this can be a controversial decision for some people
@ItsAsparageese
@ItsAsparageese 2 жыл бұрын
@@mdstanton1813 Oh god, I was in a completely different thread on a completely different video where the conversation had turned to eugenics, right, and for a second when I saw the notification for your reply I was like NOOOO HOW DARE until I clicked through and recognized what thread your reply is actually in 😂 Amazing what a difference context makes!
@timberwolf5631
@timberwolf5631 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever I got pregnant in my younger years, I was offered epidurals and saddle blocks. I refused them because I didn't want my kids to be born with those kinds of drugs in their systems. I was offered morphine, too. Same thing: I thought a hard sedative like that would cause my baby to be born lethargic or unresponsive. I was afraid of how painful labor would be, though. They offered me a Nubain and said it would 'just take the edge off', and would not affect the baby. I said okay to that. It was perfect: I remained awake and alert, while feeling a bit fuzzy. It still hurt like hell. But it was just enough without being too much. A nurse asked me once if I thought my delivery was satisfying. Weird question, and yes, it always was. I think that is important, somehow.
@iamjamilyn
@iamjamilyn 2 жыл бұрын
My mother had a twilight birth and had twins, she had no idea she was even having twins...let alone a girl and a boy SURPRISE!
@apriladams8710
@apriladams8710 2 жыл бұрын
I’m left wondering if twilight sleep had any long term effects on the babies. I would Google it but the daunting task of weeding through the garbage content, which Google loves to share first, to get to the rare nugget of truth is something I don’t have time for...
@slcRN1971
@slcRN1971 2 жыл бұрын
I often wondered about that myself, having worked in my earliest years when this medication was still being used (1970s). I remember how sluggish and bluish the newborns looked, right after birth.
@kathiecassidy-smith2669
@kathiecassidy-smith2669 2 жыл бұрын
The Queen delivered using Twilight with Prince Andrew, there’s your answer😉
@kristinazubic9669
@kristinazubic9669 2 жыл бұрын
@@kathiecassidy-smith2669 I thought that was Prince Edward?
@gill426
@gill426 2 жыл бұрын
Psychologically I assure you there was a lot of damage on both mother and child. I can't pull up any medical evidence or personal work experience for that but from what I know about trauma, this is a highly detrimental state to have a child in. Even worse so than the things usually associated with natural childbirth.
@miaa7968
@miaa7968 2 жыл бұрын
@@gill426 You can't say things with no explanation or proof lol
@KendrixTermina
@KendrixTermina 2 жыл бұрын
Even the normal Birth actually comes with a natural memory wipe, though it's not as efficient as drugs - it's due to the huge surge of oxytocin, a chemical that is also involved in trust and social bonding, that causes you to remember the moment right after (when you get to see the baby) but the memory of the pain before that is diminished. I guess if nature didn't fool us this way, no one would have siblings - especially not in the past when childbirth was much more dangerous. My mom had 5 babies but after the first 4 times she had zero memory of what the placenta had looked like. With baby #5 she was already 40 so she knew this would be the last kid, so she asked the Drs to save it so she could see what it looks like.
@tooshay4me
@tooshay4me 2 жыл бұрын
I gave birth to my son in 1977, I had just turned 18, and struggled with the extreme pain of labor pains as my frame was very small. The doctor wanted to do a c-section, but my mother didn’t want me to have such a horrible scar at such a young age so they gave me a shot called Twilight Shot.” I only remember coming to every now and then and only for a few seconds, but I definitely don’t remember any pain whatsoever and came to a few hours after childbirth. It was an experience and am glad I didn’t feel the pain any longer. My son was born healthy and strong. I never knew what the name of the actual shot was called other than Twilight Shot.
@exidy-yt
@exidy-yt 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa, today I actually DID find out something new! TBH most of the topics on this channel I already have at least heard about if not already familiar with them, but this one is completely new to me and an extremely interesting topic as well. GJ!
@East_blue2014
@East_blue2014 2 жыл бұрын
My first baby I was unconscious for. I remember waking up and seeing my husband walk into the room carrying him. My first thought were, that's not my baby, whose baby is that? Then I noticed he had my husband's nose and thought, oh maybe it's mine. The brain does things.
@MCC4RTHY1
@MCC4RTHY1 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother used twilight and she loved it. When talking about my birthday (which was awful and I never heard t end of) she would say back in her day how wonderful it was. *shoulder shrugs*
@Chelseyandfam
@Chelseyandfam 2 жыл бұрын
This is how my grandmother gave birth in the 1950s! Also this is sort of chronicled on “Mad Men” when Betty gives birth to Eugene.
@louisedolloff836
@louisedolloff836 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, definitely scary! My great grandma on my mother's side was a midwife. She assisted my grandma on my dad's side with the births of my two aunts and my father in the 1920's, no drugs involved. I was born in a hospital in the 1960's and they gave my mom demoral for the pain, and it crossed the placenta barrier, so I spent the first month of my life asleep, waking up just enough to eat... Fast forward 20 years, and we come full circle. I had my babies at home with a midwife and no drugs involved.
@bolladragon
@bolladragon 2 жыл бұрын
Even expecting one, the very idea of waking up still drugged and delirious from a medical procedure only to have a nurse hand me a newborn baby that is apparently mine sounds utterly horrifying. No wonder this procedure died out.
@Nirrrina
@Nirrrina 2 жыл бұрын
Remember Ladies. Having cats is much much easier. But does tend to come with certain names. But on the other hand they stay small, warm & cuddly forever. Unless you piss them off anyway. I still absolutely adore my nieces & nephews though. Even though they're no longer small cuddly little things. My mom & I were always the favored babysitters. Especially on New Years Eve when my sister's friends would also leave their kids too. Man we had tons of fun.
@sophierobinson2738
@sophierobinson2738 2 жыл бұрын
I liked children when I was one. Then I grew up and had my own. I don't like babies or children anymore. I have 5 cats, all but one of whom came to me off the street. The 5th I took because her disabled people had to move in with family, and family had 4 big dogs. I couldn't bear the thought of her going to the Humane Society, where she would surely be murdered in a week's time. She immediately made friends with one of the clowder, and is happy as clams.
@theproplady
@theproplady 2 жыл бұрын
@@sophierobinson2738 Sheesh. You don't like your kid because giving birth to them was painful? Poor kid...
@missouribushwhacker9449
@missouribushwhacker9449 2 жыл бұрын
You are the saddest human being to exist just morally this🤣🖕
@bcaye
@bcaye 2 жыл бұрын
I have had many mothers tell me how lucky I am to have cats rather than kids. I remind them that cats are dependent on you their entire life. Like a baby that can never feed itself or toilet independently. Cats don't grow up and move out on their own. Also, you will lose them eventually and that is very painful.
@JenIsHungry
@JenIsHungry 2 жыл бұрын
@@theproplady being honest is bad? Lots of parents regret having children and this doesn't make them bad people.
@otgenesis7410
@otgenesis7410 2 жыл бұрын
No offense, I thought it was already terrifying as it is on its own. *Then they just made it worse*
@anaisnin7983
@anaisnin7983 2 жыл бұрын
The picture with the forceps has traumatised me 😱
@LyaksandraB
@LyaksandraB 2 жыл бұрын
It's not. Don't buy into the myths. It can potentially be. Then again, you could also get crushed by a car while walking outside, so that can be said about everything.
@zanleekain117
@zanleekain117 2 жыл бұрын
I've given birth several times. It's not terrifying if you're well educated on the topic. Watch the documentary "Business of Being Born" and then decide. Most people research more for buying a new car then having a baby.) All natural at home birth (with a properly planned out back up plan for emergency situations) for a normal health mother and child is not traumatizing. I've personally experienced having an impatient doctor trying to rush things along because I was cutting into his Sunday afternoon social life, (that was painful and exhausting) experienced a well trained midwife, and experienced at home births with only my husband there, (the natural hormone rush is so euphoric, you fall deeply in love with the child, and my body recovered very quickly as a result). And while the midwife was a way better experience then the doctor, the homebirth was by far the best experience. (We had a nurse on speed dial, only 5 minutes away, and the closest medical facility and ambulance was only a few miles away, who had been made aware of our home birth plans, and where in full support.) Just be well informed, and remember, the doctor and hospital only make a lot of money if it becomes an emergency situation, so for their bottom line, it's in their best interest if every birth becomes an emergency c section. 😂
@ChristinaMaterna
@ChristinaMaterna 2 жыл бұрын
@@zanleekain117 all very good points!!! but some of us are truely emergency C sections - I was one month overdue, cord wrapped twice tight (& not visible in Ultra) and went crit during birth. 5 minutes away by ambo would've liked me and others in my family 🤷‍♀️
@otgenesis7410
@otgenesis7410 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information😁😁😁
@audreysark4061
@audreysark4061 2 жыл бұрын
I was born in WI in 1978. I was delivered with forceps after my mother was given something at least similar to twilight sleep. I had a hernia that required surgery - without anesthesia! - as a result of the forceps. My mother has always been pathological in her distance from me, emotional & physical ('literally, she left when I was 14) but raised her next 2 children, born 12 years later under modern conditions, in a more stable, loving environment. After watching this I wonder if that initial experience of being disconnected from the birthing process is at least partially responsible.
@quackaddict2203
@quackaddict2203 2 жыл бұрын
That's a curious thought. It's entirely possible she wasn't ready for motherhood to begin with and delivery under anesthesia made it even easier for her to dissociate.
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry that happened to you!
@the_kombinator
@the_kombinator 2 жыл бұрын
I somehow doubt a couple hours of disconnect would have lasting repercussions if the baby (and then child) has a consistent, caring environment afterwards. Just an opinion though.
@LyaksandraB
@LyaksandraB 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to say that if it had any influence, it's minimal. She carried you for nine months. Most moms are over the moon the moment they learn they're pregnant. The nine months after that only reinforce the feeling. Do your best to put her out of your mind. Take this in the best way possible, she can go fuck herself, no matter her circumstances.
@elizabethmcglothlin5406
@elizabethmcglothlin5406 2 жыл бұрын
Similar story here.
@sarahv7816
@sarahv7816 2 жыл бұрын
My mom gave birth to my oldest brother while under the influence of scopolamine, it was such an awful experience it made her refuse any pain meds during any of her following births.
@brennan4068
@brennan4068 2 жыл бұрын
Because I had a “bad epidural” my labor was actually more agonizing than it would have been without one. I felt every contraction, but in between each, I had a “see-saw” effect where all the pain in of my contraction quickly moved from my abdomen to my shoulders. I had pain radiating across my shoulders so bad that I begged them to remove the epidural, but they would not. I wish so desperately that I would have experienced the entire thing, without interference. I can’t imagine how women who endured all of these practices must feel!
@katherinetutschek4757
@katherinetutschek4757 2 жыл бұрын
omg😖😖😖
@brennan4068
@brennan4068 2 жыл бұрын
@@katherinetutschek4757 it was horrible. What was worse is that afterwards they sent a neurologist to examine me like I had something wrong with my brain or was imagining it.
@katherinetutschek4757
@katherinetutschek4757 2 жыл бұрын
@@brennan4068 Condescending doctors are the worst😠
@valeriegourley1014
@valeriegourley1014 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what happened to me except it was during my c-section. I felt everything. My legs were on fire, like millions of bees stinging me at once and my chest was being squeezed so badly I couldn’t breathe. I begged my dr to stop but she didn’t believe me. It’s a good thing my arms were strapped down because I would have jumped right off the table, abdomen cut open and all. They ended up having to sedate me with iv fentanyl. I still have the squeezing in my chest and issues with my legs and bowels. This was in 2011 and it really did traumatize me. I couldn’t even hold my son.
@brennan4068
@brennan4068 2 жыл бұрын
@@valeriegourley1014 I’m so sorry!! That’s awful!! I can imagine it would traumatize you pretty badly. They didn’t believe me either! Sent a neurologist in afterwards to check to make sure something wasn’t wrong with my brain... made me so mad because everything was absolutely fine once they took that out.
@piermariobarozzi
@piermariobarozzi 2 жыл бұрын
They put the twilight zone soundtrack and the baby talks with a deep voice after being born
@K-a-n-d-i-s
@K-a-n-d-i-s 2 жыл бұрын
Its true
@utah133
@utah133 2 жыл бұрын
Scopolamine was apparently used in wartime for motion sickness or something. My grandmother recalled gathering henbane, a nightshade family plant during wartime, as the government wanted that done. The stuff grows in abundance in Southwest Wyoming where we lived.
@rockthelightGomer
@rockthelightGomer 2 жыл бұрын
I'm currently in early labor. Thanks for the pep talk, Simon.
@sydneyice
@sydneyice 2 жыл бұрын
Well... how'd it go? Lmao congrats! 👏
@sonjafrost4
@sonjafrost4 2 жыл бұрын
This was a really excellent video. Thank you Simon, I really enjoyed this
@toothfairy1952
@toothfairy1952 2 жыл бұрын
I was sedated for my first, and wished I was for my second. Absolutely no reason to be conscious.
@sophierobinson2738
@sophierobinson2738 2 жыл бұрын
I've been doing some family search. I'm always interested in the death certificates, when they are available. At least 3 babies died of "birth injuries" with inter cranial hemorrhage, most likely from a forceps delivery. Looking into the past this way, you see children dying of "intestinal complaints" , where some coroners are more specific, putting cholera or dysentery in as cause. The worst was the obituary of a 3-year-old boy playing on a sand heap with other children. A dump truck with a load of sand was backing into the yard, the child tried to climb onto the right side of the truck, slipped off, went under the turning truck, and his head was crushed by the tire. A man standing nearby took the mother and child to hospital where he was pronounced dead.
@jaredevildog6343
@jaredevildog6343 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks Simon !
@jessicacanfield5408
@jessicacanfield5408 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Simon for this video. I haven't gotten your videos lately glad this one came up
@toko_ribbon
@toko_ribbon 2 жыл бұрын
I had an epidural done for my c section and wound up having an adverse reaction to the epidural that lasted 3 miserable long weeks! It was 100X worse than the labor pains/contractions. 😬
@aprilh9210
@aprilh9210 2 жыл бұрын
Keeps looks interesting ......but I was sure that the cure for baldness in men was to shave the scalp clean and grow facial hair. It's a magnificent hairstyle on my husband and it works well on Simon too.
@Diana-yq9zb
@Diana-yq9zb 2 жыл бұрын
The whole video deserved a thumbs up. But the intro about 'Keeps'. THAT intro alone totally deserved a thumbs up. Thank you, Simon.
@olivialoder492
@olivialoder492 2 жыл бұрын
I only meant to watch one video whilst doing laundry. I’m hooked!!
@lucassilva1706
@lucassilva1706 2 жыл бұрын
He didnt even mention that some of those women would get ptsd and flashbacks from those memories. Sounds very unpleasent, the past truly was the worst.
@lazerllamaz
@lazerllamaz 2 жыл бұрын
Riddle me this, fact boy: where did the idea of the "Nigerian prince who wants to send you money" come from and why has it become the go-to example of email scams?
@Brad-ut1ro
@Brad-ut1ro 2 жыл бұрын
Damn. I love this channel so much. So many crazy and wildly interesting historical events I would never have known about without it. Keep it up guys and gals. Y’all r doin us all a massive favor with all this historical knowledge.
@thebestusername5852
@thebestusername5852 2 жыл бұрын
I had a pretty horrific childbirth with my second child. A little background. I was scheduled to have a c section because my previous child had been born that way. The hospital I chose was wonderful the first time around. It was a very small hospital with one obgyn and I had been the one and only patient the entirety of my stay the last time I had been there. The nurses were literally bored and would make my husband and milkshakes every night. I loved it. But with my son I went into labor a a few weeks early and my labor was extremely quick. I arrived at like 1:30 a.m. and the doctor had gone home for the night😳 So I waited a total of 90 minutes for her to arrive. In the meantime, I was coming along very quickly and the nurses were NOT the same ones I had had the last time. Not even close. These nurses where very rude and condescending. They seemed annoyed that I was in labor. They kept yelling at me to stop pushing. I wasn't pushing my body was literally contracting the baby out all on it's own in between contractions they said things like "Why did you wait so long? Isn't this your second child? So how did you not realize you were having contractions? Look I'm going to need for you to chill or your baby's going to come out before the doctor gets here." They gave me an IV but never offered anything to even take the edge off for pain the whole time and I was too delirious to ask I guess. Finally, when my doctor walked in I just remember her saying " I don't like that look in your eye!" And laughing (I think she meant that she thought I was trying to push.) Then she checked me and said "omg..😳...Well he's got a full head off hair Mama! Teeheehee" Then she gestured to one of the nurses and that was all I remember. Apparently that gesture meant it was time to knock me out cold because the next thing I remember i was waking up in excruciating pain all by myself with no idea what happened. Turns out even though I was 10 cm dilated and my son was down far enough that she could feel his hair and rather than allow me to push she knocked me out cold and did a c section. It was traumatic as all hell...I guess I can be glad I wasn't tripping on deadly nightshade though, lol.
@amandaknowles2998
@amandaknowles2998 2 жыл бұрын
My mother gave birth to my oldest brother via Twilight Sleep. He is 55 years old. Crazy to hear about other people's experiences with this too.
@charmaintrout174
@charmaintrout174 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE this idea! As a mother who endured 4 difficult, complicated and very painful births, why is suffer through immense pain and fear considered a mark of courage and ' WOMANHOOD'? Why are we being socially conditioned to believe that it is weak, un-womanly and irresponsible to not actively want to endure the most pain possible. Why is our love of our babies and our social/moral value dependant on the amount of suffering we endure?? Ok, rant over.
@alainacolding8317
@alainacolding8317 2 жыл бұрын
When I had my son who was 9.4 lbs I was truly traumatized after and shocked that no one told me how truly truly awful child birth was. I felt like all the women who smiled in my face and said congratulations to me when they found out I was pregnant were lying to me lol
@cathiwim
@cathiwim 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the side effects of epidurals and other numbing agents follow the woman for years.
@OGA103
@OGA103 2 жыл бұрын
Many many women don't want an epidural because it severely restricts movement. Once you get it you have to stay in bed and give birth on your back, arguably the worst position imaginable. It can lead to a cascade of complications and ultimately c-section. I wish we utilized air (O2) and gas (nitrous) here in the states like they do in the UK. It takes the edge off while not completely immobilizing the mom. Just food for thought.
@Dreamer-gp8ye
@Dreamer-gp8ye 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think you understand the brutality of 'twilight sleep' births. The women were completely awake and felt every single pain. Scopolamine is not a pain reliever at all. Many times women went temporarily crazy under its effects and were tied to the beds in four point restraints. If they weren't restrained, they many times would cause harm to themselves. Twilight sleep took none of the pain away and made them out their minds. All that it did was cause amnesia and the mother wouldn't fully (or at all) remember what had occurred afterwards.
@Orpilorp
@Orpilorp 2 жыл бұрын
I was born that way! My poor mom was waking up and she heard a baby crying. She said, "Oh, did someone have a baby?" She said that she had to go through the difficult labor without pain relief, and then was put asleep at the best part, the delivery. It amazes me that they didn't take into consideration the drug's affect on the baby. These were also the same doctors who did not encourage her to nurse me. I have crohn's disease, and I can't help but think that the lifeless canned milk and corn syrup she fed me had much to do with my digestive issues. Mama's raw milk had enzymes and vitamins, so essential for a baby's growth. I had my first 4 babies with the help of demeral, to ease pain. But my forth was groggy from the drug, and after that my last 4 were born naturally. My last was at home with a midwife, going full circle back to the basics. Thank you for your excellent research.
@janicesmith2475
@janicesmith2475 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I subscribed. Thank you.
@crumpetandtea
@crumpetandtea 2 жыл бұрын
When I learned about this (happened to my grandmother for all three kids) it made the scene in Rosemary’s Baby make sense where she sleepily says she’s not even in control when giving birth. It makes sense when that book is all about women not being in control of their body, especially not when pregnant, in the 60’s
@RAS_Squints
@RAS_Squints 2 жыл бұрын
'History is always the worst ' -Simon
@jellypopcorn
@jellypopcorn 2 жыл бұрын
_Really good video had no idea this used to be a practice_
@carleeelena03
@carleeelena03 2 жыл бұрын
My great grandmother was born in May 1914! It’s crazy how much things have changed
@TheEvilCommenter
@TheEvilCommenter 2 жыл бұрын
Good video 👍
@darthvein3
@darthvein3 2 жыл бұрын
Scopolamine is a very VERY scary thing. Also know as "Devils Breath". The worst part of the drug is that when someone is under the influence of the drug, you can ask them to do ANYTHING, and they will do it and have no memory of it. You could literally ask someone to take all the money they have in the bank and give it to you and they happily would do it. You could distroy someones life in a single night, and people do it all the time. There are countless stories of people visiting south America where the tree that produces the drug grow legally (it is illegal to harvest the trees but people do it anyways), and suddenly waking up with nothing to their name. No money, no car, no passport. Nothing.
@adriennefloreen
@adriennefloreen 2 жыл бұрын
The tree that produces it grows all over California, and I've repeatedly put video clips of it in my videos, sometimes mentioning what it is.
@24flyingcats84
@24flyingcats84 2 жыл бұрын
It's used by criminal gangs in some parts of the world to facilitate robbing people, according to a documentary I saw.
@BaskGurrl
@BaskGurrl 2 жыл бұрын
My mother was totally out of it when she gave birth, but then she had a really gnarly c-section x) I just found your channel, love your way of explaining things ! :)))
@juliajordan5023
@juliajordan5023 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, America administered the technique in a very American way 😂 😞
@brokentombot
@brokentombot 2 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering about the disregard in respect to scopolamine being an alkaloid that easily could be harmful to a neonate. Even if it is safe there should have been mention of the carelessness to use it without actually knowing what it would do. Also, the amnesia part is troubling. The mother in theory could be deceived and given a different baby, whether intentionally or accidently. I also could just be over thinking it but seems like these ideas are worth regard.
@Liquid_Mike
@Liquid_Mike 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, the mother could be given a different baby no matter the circumstances, they all look alike!
@brokentombot
@brokentombot 2 жыл бұрын
@@Liquid_Mike Lol, true. All new borns look like naked mole rats.
@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494
@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 2 жыл бұрын
@@brokentombot Nonsense! My first looked like Winston Churchill! ;-)
@deeleigh1626
@deeleigh1626 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much all medications are rolled out without knowing what the effects are going to be. And then the variables become so compounded it is difficult to even tell.
@kathiecassidy-smith2669
@kathiecassidy-smith2669 2 жыл бұрын
@@brokentombot mine all looked like lizards 🦎
@NiamhCreates
@NiamhCreates 2 жыл бұрын
There was an episode of Mad Men where Betty gave birth via Twilight Sleep. It was kind of horrifying.
@jennym007
@jennym007 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video thanks.
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