Same with late 80's and 90's Rovers, they were actually pretty good cars, just a crap image and the usual bashing of our own stuff meant they were always doomed.

Agree 100% I'd love a Princess

I think that’s a good point, but I think with both BL and Citroën, a Mercedes-Benz badge would elevate them much further.

British snobs, with their Daily Nail, Thelegraph, and Exoress, can't stand driving anything built by British Workig class people and assumed ofcourse that it all involved a lot of greasy rags, fags and cups of tea.. Having never ofcourse been bothered to enter anything remotely resembling a factory.. Those classes ofcourse ultimately got copied by the snobby middle class.

Thanks mate, very kind of you to say 🙂

Pedantry alert! The Wolseley versions, because history, were badged as the 18/85 and 18/85 S rather than 1800 😅

There was an SD1 there, but it was the rarely-seen diesel SD Turbo!

Thanks Michael 🙂

Very elegant car, and will be sought after more and more with time !

Indeed so! I've always admired Ed's crystal-clear enunciation and his almost-always correct pronunciation of names. Today's correct Van den Plas and coupé (never a coop - that's for chickens!) were, however, slightly let down by the "Moway" for Moët. Moët is a Dutch name, and pronounced Mow-et, not like it were a French name with a silent 't'. While Claude Moët was born in France, his family was of Dutch heritage. Over the generations, they kept the original pronunciation of their family name, and in Dutch, the ‘t’ is not silent. Another excellent video!

Thanks mate! The Vanden Plas thing is one of my pet peeves.

Yes, I’ve been corrected on Moët already! Strangely, I’ve never heard it pronounced that way, but then again, I don’t drink alcohol, so it isn’t exactly on my radar.

@@TwinCam Good man! I, too, don't drink alcohol - too much of a control freak, and I lose it on booze. In my early 30s, having been teetotal from birth, I tried to get accustomed to alcoholic drinks, but after three years of trying hard I gave up. ☕

I used to drink when I was 16-17, but by the time I was 18 I’d decided it was just expensive and most didn’t taste as good as many soft drinks. Funnily enough, at age 16 I discovered I had a world-beating tolerance for large amounts of booze. Completely wasted on me now 🤣

Thanks Danny 🙂

Thanks Darren 🙂

Thanks Paul, very kind of you to say 🙂

Thanks Neil 🙂

Thanks Andrew, very kind of you to say 🙂

Thanks as always Michael 🙂

Thanks Simon, very kind of you to say 🙂

Guess why I uploaded the video so early 😉 I was bored of waiting for the race to restart 🤣

I like them too. The GTa and Sport were smart little things. Strange considering the MG was still about, but they had a much classier character, and I’d guess they were testing the water for the later Rover-badged GTa and GTi.

Thanks mate 🙂

Ahh yes, we were talking about that at the show but I forgot to mention it in the video! We were saying probably Sierra, but I’d guess Capris used the same ‘box?

Thanks Andrew 🙂

Thanks mate 🙂

@@TwinCam it's always a pleasure to see your vidéos. Very well documented for a fan of British cars like me. Keep on !!!☺️

Not quite! They’re standard 13” Metro alloys. From a Turbo, to be precise. Maestros and Montegos did get a very similar alloy, in 14” rather than the Metro’s 13”, and in a different stud pattern, though the K-Series Rover Metro switched to Maestro stud pattern, so from then on the wheels were identical, save for being an inch smaller.

@@TwinCam I forget how small the Metro wheels are! They look in proportion though as does the car itself.

They’re very teeny. I saw a picture of a Metro in Thailand recently, and it’s been fitted with 10” wheels. They look brilliant.

That’s because it is a Honda Concerto! The R8 and YY were a 50:50 collaboration between Rover and Honda. See my video on a 220 GTi from a couple of months ago for more!

@@TwinCam yup my point exactly. Concertos were great cars too.

Thanks Ian 🙂

That’s the one.

It’ll be just the same as any 16v converted Mini! If you Google anything related to Twin-Cam Mini or 16v Mini, you’ll find examples of conversions.

Indeed it is. Last Sunday of September.

Indeed so. Lots of people put Turbo stickers on their 2.0 EFi. Plus, people on the internet today like to tell people they had one. Chances are, they didn’t.

Montego Turbos, however, weren’t limited editions, and sold much better.

@@TwinCamI seem to remember it had an mg level trim and finish, but i don't know if it's my mind playing tricks it's been so long.and if I'd known they were so rare at the time I'd have scrutinised it harder, so hard to say. Was nice whatever it was Funnily enough I don't recall the Montego MGs

Thanks Johnathan 🙂

Sort of. It was based on the Honda Ballade, which was a different model line to the Civic, but heavily based on it. The Ballade was to the Civic what the Orion was to the Ford Escort, basically.

Indeed John. The Ballade also had a Civic front-end, but the Rover had a unique face. Additionally, Rover changed the tune of the suspension because they weren’t happy with Honda’s work, and from ‘86, Honda applied the Rover suspension to their own cars!

Strange thing to say. From Jaguar there was the XJ and XJ-S. From Rover were the Range Rover and SD1. From Austin-Morris came the Princess and Metro. And that’s just in the years the company was called BL, from 1968 to 1980. To disregard these is lazy at best.