Two engines FALL OFF Boeing 747 moments after takeoff | El Al 1862

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4th October 1992
Two engines fall off a Boeing 747, just moments after takeoff from Amsterdam. The pilots fight desperately for control, as their aircraft struggles to stay aloft. To make matters worse, they don’t even know that their engines have literally detached from the wing.
Beneath them, residents of Amsterdam watch on in horror, as the stricken jumbo limps back towards the airport. Will the pilots make it, or will time run out before they can wrangle their massive jet back to the airport? This is the story of El Al cargo flight 1862.
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@GreenDotAviation
@GreenDotAviation 3 ай бұрын
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@spuddsalli8559
@spuddsalli8559 3 ай бұрын
What software do you use to create these simulations?
@rendycoya
@rendycoya 3 ай бұрын
@@spuddsalli8559 if im not wrong,this is X plane ,but im probably wrong
@Infgator
@Infgator 3 ай бұрын
You didn't mention the absolute best unique feature the Opera has - workspaces on the left bar.
@MiTBender
@MiTBender 3 ай бұрын
3:43 "It's a new web browser" 🫥
@fuhishva
@fuhishva 3 ай бұрын
Haha, Opera was made in the year 1995
@Toe_Merchant
@Toe_Merchant 3 ай бұрын
My confidence in Boeing erodes with every new Green Dot video
@BoatNerds
@BoatNerds 3 ай бұрын
fr
@phantom_mserafi
@phantom_mserafi 3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@dystopian..
@dystopian.. 3 ай бұрын
I don’t need to wait for a video, I just see the news
@L.Mitchell
@L.Mitchell 3 ай бұрын
I mean with what I have heard with Airbus as well both are a bit well iffy and make Concorde look safe. I mean it was but.
@25thjake57
@25thjake57 3 ай бұрын
it's a shame that the passion you see in the engineers who work on Boeing aircraft, and the positive sentiment held by pilots and passengers alike for some of the most iconic planes in the world, all amounts to nothing in the face of human lives that are lost as a result of Boeing's negligence
@mikelastname
@mikelastname 3 ай бұрын
I think it is about time Boeing included a "Your engine has fallen off" and "your door plug has fallen off" warning lights.
@elihusmails7401
@elihusmails7401 2 ай бұрын
lol
@johnking9942
@johnking9942 2 ай бұрын
Add to that "But your Boeing stock is doing fine"
@mikelastname
@mikelastname 2 ай бұрын
@@johnking9942 ha ha - sad but true.
@Zemohc
@Zemohc 2 ай бұрын
They should also include a "You're flying a Boeing" warning light as well. This is ridiculous.
@mikelastname
@mikelastname Ай бұрын
​@@Zemohc TBH, the fact that the Boeing is still flying should mean it is a green smilie -face light.
@InterWebGuy99
@InterWebGuy99 3 ай бұрын
".....There is no instrument that tells you if your engines fall off....." LOL. Priceless commentary. Well played, sir.
@pashon4percushon
@pashon4percushon 3 ай бұрын
its not that hard to make one. probably couldn't use it due to vibrations.
@randyaivaz3356
@randyaivaz3356 3 ай бұрын
Would think You Could See Fuel Flow Rise sharply, Don't know if Shuts Fuel off Automatically. Think a Couple Cameras, 1 Each Side To See Wings, Engines, Landing Gear could be Nice.
@pashon4percushon
@pashon4percushon 3 ай бұрын
@@randyaivaz3356 I think the A380s have cameras as can be seen on KZfaq but I'm not sure if its standard on all of them. And kinda contradicts themselves, i'm sure there's a fuel flow safety cut off or the pilots may have cut off the fuel when they got the fire alarm.
@SQSNSQ
@SQSNSQ 3 ай бұрын
RPM suddenly goes to 0, so does the oil pressure, oil temp, turbine temp, exhaust temp, fuel pressure, etc. Or, all of those instruments behave erratically due to the short circuits in their severed electric connections to the engines. Obviously the flight engineer had to know, the engines are destroyed, at least.
@AesopsFables007
@AesopsFables007 Ай бұрын
There is a collection of instruments that would indicate a massive failure such as this!
@shmigka
@shmigka 3 ай бұрын
The first officer on this flight was a childhood friend and my neighbour, it's chilling to hear his voice on this video.
@lowlowseesee
@lowlowseesee Ай бұрын
I’m sorry for your loss
@ryanatkinson2978
@ryanatkinson2978 3 ай бұрын
I'm amazed how calm that last radio call was. Just professionalism until the end
@unflexian
@unflexian 3 ай бұрын
both pilot and co-pilot were in the Israeli air force for many years
@Sniff_Jenkem
@Sniff_Jenkem 3 ай бұрын
I found that most pilots are very calm until the very end, all of them truly believe they can make it back safely. Which is a great mindset to have. They don't have time to process that they are about to pass away in the two seconds from "we're going to do this" and "We're going down". That's my theory I guess. I wouldn't want a pilot who couldn't think they could get their stricken plane back safely.
@unflexian
@unflexian 3 ай бұрын
@@Sniff_Jenkem there's a story on one of these channels about two pilots that were flying with an empty airliner and thought they'd have a bit of fun, they did reckless rollercoaster maneuvers and flew above the plane's service ceiling, and managed to destroy both engines in the process. despite all that, in their final seconds gliding towards a residential area, they were completely focused on reducing casualties on the ground by finding the emptiest spot they could, and keeping the gear up which is basically suicide for them. they were idiots but they worked together to prevent taking anyone out with them.
@MrHav1k
@MrHav1k 3 ай бұрын
@@unflexianI know the exact incident you're talking about, but I cannot recall the flight!!!! I remember it taking off from somewhere in Arkansas heading to Minneapolis I believe.
@hasithmalika
@hasithmalika 3 ай бұрын
@@MrHav1k Pinnacle Airlines flight 3701. I remember MP and MACI did videos on that.
@fabianv.458
@fabianv.458 3 ай бұрын
In the Netherlands we all know this incident as the Bijlmer ramp. young or old, native or none native, everyone in our country is formiliar with this horror incident. One of the darkest days in the dutch aviation history. 43 people who didnt survive and hundreds upon hunderds of people traumatized for the rest of their life's. I have no direct involvement with this crash, i live no where near amsterdam, but everytime i hear the last atc traffic of this flight i get chills all over my body. We will not forget, Rest in peace to all involved.
@wilcofaber9863
@wilcofaber9863 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. The bijlmer ramp is still very known by people above 40 years age
@Fluffy-Fluffy
@Fluffy-Fluffy 3 ай бұрын
and where they were and what they were doing. I know I do.​@@wilcofaber9863
@rickyrico80
@rickyrico80 3 ай бұрын
43 is the official number, many homeless people lived there and I'm pretty sure the actual number is higher. Ik geloof er geen kloot van 😶
@an_baby_orca
@an_baby_orca 3 ай бұрын
I visted the crashsite in 1992, and later on the Parlementair hearings.. every year in October I have to think about this horrific disaaster and then some idiots from the USA claim it's been a test flight for 911 cuz they don't understand Hebrew from Arabic...
@HaraldMacGerhard
@HaraldMacGerhard 3 ай бұрын
@blairl6304
@blairl6304 3 ай бұрын
RIP to those fine aviators, they fought a hopeless battle to the end and never gave up. Even the final radio call wasn’t panicked . Respect to El Al for their excellent pilots and training. RIP to those on the ground.
@verbal_DK
@verbal_DK 3 ай бұрын
these "fine and excellent" airmen were selfishly trying to save their a**es instead of flying out of a densely populated area and didn't give up until they took 39 innocent lives with them.
@Henry-sv3wv
@Henry-sv3wv 3 ай бұрын
could the pilots have survived this if they tried to land with the too much speed?
@pathfinder5190
@pathfinder5190 3 ай бұрын
Stop lying. Nothing about this was handled well.
@thekneidlachengineer6038
@thekneidlachengineer6038 3 ай бұрын
​@@verbal_DKsaid the capitan with 3 million flight hours..have some shame
@thekneidlachengineer6038
@thekneidlachengineer6038 3 ай бұрын
​@@pathfinder5190Lancaster down 😂
@johno9507
@johno9507 3 ай бұрын
I worked for Qantas engineering in the mid 1990s and remember doing the engine strut mods after the El Al crash, they were done in conjunction with a aircraft D check. A lot of the structure inside the wings had to be modified and strengthened as well as on the struts themselves. 🇦🇺
@cmw9876
@cmw9876 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this.
@TheFailedmessiah
@TheFailedmessiah 4 күн бұрын
Quantas never crashed!!!
@RonOsbourne
@RonOsbourne 2 күн бұрын
Engineering, huh? Why you couldn't get it right the first time is amazing 👍
@danecowan678
@danecowan678 3 ай бұрын
Wow. Throughout the video I thought this was going to be a miracle story. Cant believe it went so wrong. I hope the crew and passenger are resting in peace, knowing their sacrifice made such a huge change to the safety of the industry for us all.
@niksonrex88
@niksonrex88 3 ай бұрын
And the 40 people that died in their homes?
@shreysatapathy1049
@shreysatapathy1049 3 ай бұрын
@@niksonrex88 RIP to them too
@shreysatapathy1049
@shreysatapathy1049 3 ай бұрын
@@niksonrex88 RIP to them too
@CynthiaSchoenbauer
@CynthiaSchoenbauer 3 ай бұрын
I feel the same. I was hoping for a last minute turn-around. But then I always do.
@danecowan678
@danecowan678 3 ай бұрын
@@niksonrex88Yea okay them too of course
@joshbelton2689
@joshbelton2689 3 ай бұрын
Ah yes, late evening watching green dot aviation. doesn't get better then this.
@subduck44
@subduck44 3 ай бұрын
dude im doing the same thing rn!!
@katelynholmes9504
@katelynholmes9504 3 ай бұрын
Amen to that
@BobbyVMedia
@BobbyVMedia 3 ай бұрын
Literally makes my day so much better seeing a green dot upload
@Bronek0990
@Bronek0990 3 ай бұрын
It gets better if you download the KZfaq vid series for the express purpose of re-watching them on board during a flight
@auntbarbara5576
@auntbarbara5576 3 ай бұрын
💯👌🏻
@memyself717
@memyself717 3 ай бұрын
There's a bit more to this. The defects were due to cutting corners on routine engine maintenance, causing pressure on the joint it wasn't designed for - the engines were not removed and supported properly to save time.
@chrislantos
@chrislantos 3 ай бұрын
"Cutting corners" and taking every possible shortcut is an Israeli cultural trait. The Hannibal Directive, for example, is really just a shortcut, however murderously ugly. Scott Ritter nailed it perfectly: "The state of Israel is itself a shortcut."
@memyself717
@memyself717 3 ай бұрын
@@chrislantos you had me until "Scott Ritter".
@chrislantos
@chrislantos 2 ай бұрын
@@memyself717 I think what he meant was, it is their shortcut to a more complete international control of their criminal and banking activities. Back in the 80's an agent with the FBI discovered that all major trials of organized crime led back to that country. So in his report he called it the "the Promised Land of organized crime".
@SirGeorgeScotland
@SirGeorgeScotland 3 ай бұрын
"In a few short minutes they would be lined up to depart. While we wait..." and then goes into the ad 😂
@poliax7066
@poliax7066 3 ай бұрын
Imagine being someone on the ground looking at the falling aircraft... Must have been such a horrifying scene
@Fluffy-Fluffy
@Fluffy-Fluffy 3 ай бұрын
one guy saw it flying straight towards him but in the end it crashed a bit next to him I believe or something close to it. I can't even begin to imagine the horror.
@Machria23
@Machria23 3 ай бұрын
I had to run from it, just made it!
@K.Spade7902
@K.Spade7902 3 ай бұрын
Like a Hollywood movie, I imagine.
@boke75
@boke75 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, like that movie with Nicholas Cage.@@K.Spade7902
@shahrzadzarghami8256
@shahrzadzarghami8256 2 ай бұрын
I've had nightmares like this many times... the effects of watching too much aviation documentaries I guess...
@clumsydins9771
@clumsydins9771 3 ай бұрын
GOING DOWN!! GOING DOWN!! Sent chills down my spine
@TracksWithDax
@TracksWithDax 3 ай бұрын
i cannot imagine that pit feeling in their stomachs, being in a giant uncontrollable metal tube going at hundreds of MPH toward the ground. ☹ RIP to everyone involved
@Sniff_Jenkem
@Sniff_Jenkem 3 ай бұрын
​@@TracksWithDaxI truly don't think they had time to process everything in the two seconds from being in level flight and going down. It is very chilling, but most final recordings from plane crashes are. The most haunting to me was "Here we go"
@souelyoung2233
@souelyoung2233 3 ай бұрын
which episode was that one again ?@@Sniff_Jenkem
@shannoncrossland9710
@shannoncrossland9710 3 ай бұрын
@@souelyoung2233that’s Alaska airlines flight 261, mentor pilot did a great video on it
@shannoncrossland9710
@shannoncrossland9710 3 ай бұрын
@@souelyoung2233that was Alaska airlines flight 261
@angelaberni8873
@angelaberni8873 3 ай бұрын
OMG !!! Why do i keep watching these when i find them so very upsetting. RIP all who die because of plane crashes.😢😢
@lowlowseesee
@lowlowseesee Ай бұрын
Because it’s morbid entertainment
@cleric4265
@cleric4265 22 күн бұрын
Same reason we keep eating sugar and junk food know full well that it’s poison
@TheFujiiii
@TheFujiiii 3 ай бұрын
I always get emotional on these accidents, but it’s just this sadness feeling, even on “closer to home” accidents like AF447 and TAM3054 (being born in Brazil), but this one, when he mentioned crashing over an ELEVEN story building, I really couldn’t hold my tears. Thank you for covering this accident, Green Dot. My sympathies to the Dutch and the involved people. 🖤
@CativaBR
@CativaBR 3 ай бұрын
Being a child when TAM3054 crashed, I couldn't completely grasp what had happened, but even so I could tell it was something really sad, and the general mood in the room in the days that followed proved it.
@norbert.kiszka
@norbert.kiszka 3 ай бұрын
One thing I learned from 737 simulators - never allow to airspeed decrease too much - no matter how much failures. When I see measured AOA higher than 5 deg., then I have heart attack every time. Its better to overrun runway than stall and crash.
@FlyingCsongor
@FlyingCsongor 3 ай бұрын
Indeed, low and slow is the most dangerous situation. Most of stall-spin accidents happen during approach and landings. This is also a reason why pilots now have to do upset recovery training.
@mauriceharting5877
@mauriceharting5877 3 ай бұрын
I don't think the captain would have made the runway even with increased airspeed he would have landed past the run way.
@Snipely
@Snipely 3 ай бұрын
@@mauriceharting5877 we don't even know if he would have had gear.
@spyder000069
@spyder000069 2 ай бұрын
The aircraft was still controllable up until final when it decreased too much and with a tail wind. Should have continued at the higher speed until he could land into the wind to give the best possible chance. Also (unless I missed it) they did not dump the fuel tanks. This happened soon after takeoff so they would have a considerable amount of fuel on board. Losing that weight could have lightened things up allowing a slower stall speed and potentially the control surfaces to be more responsive.
@MrTeff999
@MrTeff999 2 ай бұрын
In hind sight, I think it would have been better to have taken the long way around and approached the runway in the opposite direction, into the wind -- a 40 knot difference. This would have mitigated the inoperable flaps, and allowed them to lineup with the runway using more gradual steering inputs.
@KittyKate975
@KittyKate975 3 ай бұрын
This is the one channel I’ll drop EVERYTHING i’m doing just to watch
@LateNightCigars
@LateNightCigars 3 ай бұрын
This channel is much better than that annoying Mentour channel where the guy go on and on on every detail 🥴
@itsmealex8959
@itsmealex8959 3 ай бұрын
So would the Boeing 747, apparently
@Lizankuka
@Lizankuka 3 ай бұрын
if you don't like it just don't watch it, his content is meant for getting people to learn something new and maybe useful instead of just having a story told to them@@LateNightCigars
@sam_marley
@sam_marley 3 ай бұрын
@@LateNightCigarsyou can praise one without criticising the other! Mentour Pilots videos are great. I too will always prefer Green Dot though, I love the style and presentation of these videos
@MrStian78
@MrStian78 3 ай бұрын
@@LateNightCigarsMentour Pilot videos flyes over your head.
@R2k2
@R2k2 3 ай бұрын
I was 11 years old, standing in the kitchen of our elderly house. My fathers girlfriend, (not my mother), had her parents over, and it was just a normal day. My father was a volunteer firefighter. And at a moment, his pager went off, and he received the call that the divers section of our town's station were called out to Amsterdam, due to a crashed airplane. I am 43 years old now, but I remember it like it happened yesterday.
@Nalehw
@Nalehw 3 ай бұрын
So often, these stories end with a highway or river or field... The way I lurched when you said the words "eleven-story apartment building." That's horrific.
@_askai6437
@_askai6437 3 ай бұрын
I was looking for a documentary on this crash for the last 2 weeks but couldn’t find a decent high quality one, now I have thanks man
@miche1df
@miche1df 3 ай бұрын
There was a Dutch documentary called Raadsels rond een Ongloek or something like that which was made in like 1994 and it's on youtube but there are no subtitles unfortunately.
@polemicist8150
@polemicist8150 3 ай бұрын
NEO channel and Hoog channel did a high quality one
@JulianJLW
@JulianJLW Ай бұрын
There's a Mayday / Air Crash Investigation episode on it, which has contributions from air crash experts.
@bluecoffee8414
@bluecoffee8414 3 ай бұрын
My friend's father was a colleague of this crew and we were just talking about this tragedy as he attended a memorial event. Thank you for covering this.
@miles-thesleeper-monroe8466
@miles-thesleeper-monroe8466 3 ай бұрын
After the pilot said we're going down, you can't imagine how terrifying that cockpit view must have been 😢
@nickjohansen9038
@nickjohansen9038 Ай бұрын
If it’s Boeing I ain’t going.
@aapor2921
@aapor2921 3 ай бұрын
Never believed I would live just a kilometre away from the crash site and be watching a video about it. Thank you again for a great coverage of this tragic accident.
@CubeCollector
@CubeCollector 3 ай бұрын
I remember my Grandpa (who also loves aviation) telling me about this incident. Such a tragic event RIP to all who died
@hazmania6073
@hazmania6073 3 ай бұрын
This has to be the most under-appreciated channel on KZfaq. The quality of your videos is improving so much every time, and it’s a genuine pleasure to watch each one.
@narabdela
@narabdela 3 ай бұрын
334K subscribers and "underappreciated"? That's got to be one of the silliest comments I've seen for a while. 😂
@Imnotyourdoormat
@Imnotyourdoormat 3 ай бұрын
"And theres no instrument to tell you that your engine has fallen off"... hahaha OMG that's better than SNL
@dziobakowski
@dziobakowski 3 ай бұрын
This intro is literally the best channel intro I've ever saw. It looks stunning
@RicJG7
@RicJG7 3 ай бұрын
Looks great on a big oled TV also
@food2430
@food2430 3 ай бұрын
NO ONE ASKED @@RicJG7
@MrDavidfuchser
@MrDavidfuchser 3 ай бұрын
You must be new to youtube, and past tense.
@timjames6703
@timjames6703 3 ай бұрын
So good to see you back my brother. Hope the pilot training is going well and thank you for all you do with these amazing videos.
@martyreking5487
@martyreking5487 3 ай бұрын
The calmness of those pilots in the moment of such adversity always blows my mind away, even seconds away, knowing a sure death was, pretty calmly say..." going down...going down"...WOW!
@downbytheriver501
@downbytheriver501 3 ай бұрын
BOEING’s new slogan: “We’ll get you there….well, most of the time anyways.” Or: “All our flights end on the surface, guaranteed!”
@selseyonetwenty4631
@selseyonetwenty4631 3 ай бұрын
Have you seen the film airplane? Passenger asks stewardess 'do these planes crash often?' She replies 'Oh no sir, they only crash once!'.
@downbytheriver501
@downbytheriver501 3 ай бұрын
@@selseyonetwenty4631 hahaha. That’s a good one. I watched that movie a long time ago. Surely I Need to pay it a revisit 😉
@AesopsFables007
@AesopsFables007 Ай бұрын
Shut up!
@MultiChrisjb
@MultiChrisjb Ай бұрын
@@selseyonetwenty4631 roger roger.
@senorpepper3405
@senorpepper3405 23 күн бұрын
I don't see the similar comments when it's an airbus
@justinmijnbuis
@justinmijnbuis 3 ай бұрын
A couple of corrections / additions: unlike you stated, the plane was actually struggling to climb. This was noticed by ATC who remarked on this: "hij klimt voor geen meter". It has been suggested the plane was taking off beyond MTOW, possibly due to undeclared / illegal cargo. This in turn could have exacerbated the fuse pins' cracking. Also, the runway choice by the crew was indeed curious, but it would allow the plane to stay within El Al's restricted area at Schiphol; again, possibly related to the supposedly illegal military cargo. Finally the plane became uncontrollable due the inoperative slats on the damaged wing while they did extend on the other wing. On the cockpit audio you can hear Captain Fuchs asking for the slats to be retracted again but by then it was too late.
@randomuser15884
@randomuser15884 3 ай бұрын
This 💯
@Malc180s
@Malc180s 3 ай бұрын
Get the tin foil!
@giveherheadnotheadaches
@giveherheadnotheadaches 3 ай бұрын
tinfoil? no need. it's just the Israeli government doing insraeli government things.​@@Malc180s
@DjJay
@DjJay 29 күн бұрын
@@Malc180s Yeah thats why the survivors on the ground suffer serious health issues till this day from inhaling all the chemicals it was carrying and Apartheid South Africa and Isreal is/was know to carry illegal cargo and weapons. South African Airways 295 also crashed because of illegal cargo
@lisasimkins50
@lisasimkins50 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the clear transcript and high-quality graphics on only which can only be described as a horrific tale of events. I'm hooked to stay on this channel. I used to watch Air Crash Investigation and Seconds From Disaster about aviation accidents when I was involved in aviation, now there's Green Dot Aviation! Congrats to all involved!
@mshaftenberg
@mshaftenberg 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I knew the incident from an old Mayday episode, but your format and calming voice lives up to this tragedy so much more. Best aviation channel by far for me on KZfaq!
@TransportVikingNG
@TransportVikingNG 3 ай бұрын
De Bijlmerramp is the Netherlands worst aircraft incident. My uncle was in Bijlmer at the moment, and told me the ground shook at the moment of impact.
@apveening
@apveening 3 ай бұрын
It was the worst in the Netherlands, in my opinion Tenerife was the worst, as there was a Dutch B747 full of passengers involved as well as another B747.
@grassytramtracks
@grassytramtracks 24 күн бұрын
​@@apveening MH17 as well, most of the passengers were Dutch
@apveening
@apveening 24 күн бұрын
@@grassytramtracks That wasn't a disaster, that was a war crime. Besides that, there were a bit less passengers on that B777.
@CAROLUSPRIMA
@CAROLUSPRIMA 3 ай бұрын
Hey, Green Dot. I saw a chart of the most successful aviation channels and there among Mentour Pilot and a few other heavy hitters was Green Dot Aviation. Congratulations.
@wilcofaber9863
@wilcofaber9863 3 ай бұрын
You, the fligth channel and mentour pilots are the three I follow with pleasure
@CAROLUSPRIMA
@CAROLUSPRIMA 3 ай бұрын
@@wilcofaber9863 Yeah, but The Flight Channel has been using reruns for quite a while.
@baconheadhair6938
@baconheadhair6938 3 ай бұрын
@@wilcofaber9863Yeah, personally, CARLOLUSPRIMA, is also my favorite aviation channel.
@LateNightCigars
@LateNightCigars 3 ай бұрын
that Mentour channel that guy is annoying. He goes on and on for every detail... 😒
@viharsarok
@viharsarok 3 ай бұрын
@@LateNightCigars Details only annoy stupid people. What do you think this says about you?
@darthtraya5992
@darthtraya5992 2 ай бұрын
During a private pilot’s lesson we lost our rpms at 500 feet it dropped down to 1500 rpms my instructor Jim Vest took control and turned that Beechcraft sundowner around right over the tops of the pine trees and landed it safely mad respect Jim thanks for saving my life!!
@liamgeorge7317
@liamgeorge7317 3 ай бұрын
I really like the new style and formatting on this video, looks so much better and professional, keep up the great work!
@duliebanane
@duliebanane 3 ай бұрын
Man I love this channel
@MartinSage
@MartinSage 3 ай бұрын
Since 1970 1,575 747's were built. 64 had crashed. 3,746 people died. 4.1% failure rate. Production ended in 2023. Since the FAA had sent out a warning regarding the pin fatigue prior to this crash why hadn't the airline inspected these pins?
@jefferysterner
@jefferysterner 3 ай бұрын
I'm not defending Boeing by any means, their lack of scruples has gotten out of control at this point. But to be fair, so many 747 crashes had nothing to do with aircraft system failures that could be traced to Boeing themselves. A dozen or more pilot error situations including collisions/navigation errors/runway overruns, hijackings/bombs, fires, even 1 shot down by military ordinance (not TWA 800). I'd be willing to bet that the 747 overall failure rate due to things traced to the manufacturer is similar to the same statistic of other Boeing and Airbus models.
@user-xu5vl5th9n
@user-xu5vl5th9n 3 ай бұрын
Aren't fuse pins designed to break without damaging the control systems?
@henriqueferreira5165
@henriqueferreira5165 3 ай бұрын
@@user-xu5vl5th9n well, clearly not in this case.
@LaidBackDeveloper
@LaidBackDeveloper 3 ай бұрын
The fuse pins are meant to break WITHOUT damaging any systems.
@comitatus111
@comitatus111 3 ай бұрын
Oh please...failure rate should be based on number of flights or hours flown. Regardless, 64 crashes out of 1.5million aircraft is not a 4.1% failure rate.
@prodbytarantino
@prodbytarantino Ай бұрын
I came straight to your channel immediately after I saw all the Boeing stuff. I’ve been going back through all your old videos and the foreshadowing is crazy😭
@jaxbutterfly9186
@jaxbutterfly9186 Күн бұрын
I'm Gobsmacked. Even your advertisements are brilliant. What a voice.
@SallyGreenaway
@SallyGreenaway 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your videos Green dot. You are my absolute #1 favourite channel on the entirety of KZfaq. Also I highly commend your music choices in this video, subtle yet appropriately dramatic. (I'm a musician/composer and I'm rather picky about things like this). Thank you again very much
@MightyElemental
@MightyElemental 3 ай бұрын
I can only imagine the horror on the pilots' minds when they realized they lost the remaining control of the aircraft.
@AverageAlien
@AverageAlien Ай бұрын
I can only imagine the brain power to type such a generic bot comment
@Nickisae
@Nickisae 3 ай бұрын
I found this channel a few days ago through a rabbit hole coming from Brick Immortar and I can’t stop watching. Good work 🌟
@HarryB208
@HarryB208 3 ай бұрын
Love the documentaries keep it up
@hypnotickiller4802
@hypnotickiller4802 3 ай бұрын
"We're going down, we're going down" Heartbreaking
@lukeinvictus69
@lukeinvictus69 Ай бұрын
The sheer composure of these pilots amazes me. I’d be bawling.
@lukethomas.125
@lukethomas.125 3 ай бұрын
3:56 they’re a 747 Classic and a A350. Also, REALLY good video @GreenDotAviation I learned new things and i had no problems understanding the incident. Very well done and keep it up
@airplanemaniacgaming7877
@airplanemaniacgaming7877 2 ай бұрын
I knew it'd be Boeing vs Airbus just by the "quality" of the cockpits (as in the polish and refinement of them)
@DaneKaiser
@DaneKaiser 3 ай бұрын
Another amazing video. Thanks!
@destroyer28100
@destroyer28100 3 ай бұрын
The quality of your videos consistently gets better and better, not that they weren’t good to begin with but clearly you’ve been constantly improving!
@Leomerya12
@Leomerya12 3 ай бұрын
FINALLY! I subscribed to your channel last month, expecting a video to come not long after... and well, here we are.
@amoxl114
@amoxl114 3 ай бұрын
idk how they can stay so calm and just radio "going down" instead of screaming their heads off
@noobslayer815
@noobslayer815 3 ай бұрын
I can’t even imagine what was going through their minds at that moment
@BlueBird1994_
@BlueBird1994_ 3 ай бұрын
By then they probably accepted the fact that they were doomed and there was nothing else they *could* do _but_ simply say "going down". And death is instant in a crash.
@GooseGumlizzard
@GooseGumlizzard 3 ай бұрын
disciplined professionals
@johnsrabe
@johnsrabe 3 ай бұрын
I imagine experienced pilots have processed the idea that they may die hundreds or thousands of times - especially as military pilots.
@shanelennon7397
@shanelennon7397 3 ай бұрын
Another excellent video the opening genuinely gave me chills. Great job as always !!
@TimPeterson
@TimPeterson 3 ай бұрын
The way Kelsey talks about 747 engine failures I'm surprised they even diverted
@NDeck
@NDeck 3 ай бұрын
Great video once again, man! I like the way of storytelling and keeping it to the point. You might want to include "Bijlmerramp" in the title or description of the video; Could give a viewer-boost.
@efficiencygaming3494
@efficiencygaming3494 3 ай бұрын
As I watched this video, I imagined what it must have been like to see this plane from the ground as it fell from the sky. Seems like an awfully traumatic thing to witness. On a side note, this channel seems to get better with each upload. This video was excellent and well worth the wait.
@MultiChrisjb
@MultiChrisjb Ай бұрын
i was imagining being one of the pilots on the plane. It was much worst.
@1Maverick747
@1Maverick747 3 ай бұрын
I actually visited the crash site on a trip to Amsterdam. It was at night and it was really terrifying. Although it’s been many years now, the feeling of death laid lurking while the cold winds of the winter blew. I was like the only person walking there and there were no lights at all.
@Slavking03
@Slavking03 2 ай бұрын
Love your videos! Keep it coming.
@shrekvt
@shrekvt 3 ай бұрын
Actually the ultimate solution was the design and implementation of the Dual Side Brace (DSB) fitting. The strut mod program in the 90s on the 747 was one of the largest mod programs ever.
@TheSasquatchNation
@TheSasquatchNation 3 ай бұрын
I love this channel. I also won’t be flying ever again unless absolutely necessary.
@DavidElkind42
@DavidElkind42 3 ай бұрын
Lol, I've sat in airports watching Green Dot's videos while waiting to board flights, guess I'm a little crazy 😂
@whatchamacallit70
@whatchamacallit70 2 ай бұрын
@@DavidElkind42I am sure you are with some strong drinks in your hand 😄
@TheSasquatchNation
@TheSasquatchNation Ай бұрын
@@DavidElkind42 😅 that’s pretty hilarious
@sophiaherschel567
@sophiaherschel567 3 ай бұрын
I will never fly with a Boeing again. When greed comes before safety, i am out.
@Pushyhog
@Pushyhog Ай бұрын
probably mechanics and their mgr's.,, of gen xyz nowdays. Bill Boeing died long time ago. Maybe this channel can explain why engines fell off, (he did) bit still relates to mechanics.
@JulianJLW
@JulianJLW Ай бұрын
And will you go in a car? Because flying in a Boeing plane is WAY safer.
@fish41101
@fish41101 23 күн бұрын
@@PushyhogWildly inaccurate statement
@LordandGodofYouTube
@LordandGodofYouTube 3 ай бұрын
Great video, great production. Subscribed.
@Victoriousaustrohungary8743
@Victoriousaustrohungary8743 3 ай бұрын
The quality of these videos couldn’t get any better!
@dan_skoda_
@dan_skoda_ 3 ай бұрын
I hate it when two 747 engines fall of my aeroplane, it's so inconvenient and happens too often.
@dystopian..
@dystopian.. 3 ай бұрын
💤💤💤💤
@vetworker
@vetworker 3 ай бұрын
Grow up
@samgray2989
@samgray2989 3 ай бұрын
Exactly, happened to me too many times 🙄
@vulpes7079
@vulpes7079 3 ай бұрын
It happened once and never again
@hayleyxyz
@hayleyxyz 2 ай бұрын
Hilarious ecks dee. My sides etc.
@HD_555
@HD_555 26 күн бұрын
3:53 this is an Airbus a350, the one before was a combi Boeing 747-300 as it was the last old variant of Boeing to rely on analogical cockpit, as viewed by the captain's adi is an LCD
@AnimalsVehiclesAndMore
@AnimalsVehiclesAndMore 3 ай бұрын
I remember seeing the "Seconds from Disaster" episode about this accident many years ago (around 2008) when I was only a small child. It was incredibly interesting to see two of the engines just "fall off," and even more fascinating learning many years later what exactly caused that to happen. Still, though, rest in peace all who died in the crash of El Al Flight 1862.
@ChoppingtonOtter
@ChoppingtonOtter 3 ай бұрын
So sad, that crew worked so hard and had achieved miracles up to the end.
@dhara1002
@dhara1002 3 ай бұрын
Wake up babe, a new Green Dot video just dropped!
@dann5480
@dann5480 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for waking me up baby 😘😘😘😘😘
@babydrude
@babydrude Күн бұрын
I’m glad you explained how they fixed this problem 😅
@Ashu3416
@Ashu3416 3 ай бұрын
What amazing picturisation it felt like I'm watching a movie. Just so good to see that u have achieved excellent video making technique. Congrats 👏👏
@thebeastman485
@thebeastman485 3 ай бұрын
imagine those kids who were home alone and when their parents come they realise that a fucking plane crashed in it
@robertbackhaus8911
@robertbackhaus8911 3 ай бұрын
Fuse pins are meant to be the weak point, so a damaged engine can tear itself off the wing without damaging the wing itself. My recollection - the inboard engine was replaced using a forklift instead of the proper lifting cradle. The lifting cradle would have put all mounting point in the right places, but with a forlkift, you'd put one pin in place then adjust the engine to put a second in place, etc. This procedure overstressed some of the pins. The design of the pins is such that the rear one should go first, then the side pins, leaving the front pin last. If the engine was stopped, this pin would break and the engine fall away, if under power, the engine would swing around vertically on the front pin and be thrown safely over the top of the wing. But the damaged pins were included the inboard pin. When it went, together with, I think the front pin, the engine pivoted around the side pin, throwing it outwards, where it collided with the outboard engine and the wing structure.
@MrStian78
@MrStian78 3 ай бұрын
Yes, they used a forklift.
@AntonyLvids
@AntonyLvids 3 ай бұрын
Nope that was American 191
@sebastianberrio7376
@sebastianberrio7376 3 ай бұрын
Love your videos man
@stefano_2
@stefano_2 14 күн бұрын
I really love that you add ATC recordings in the video, do it more! :D
@VladMoneybagsThundershlong3rd
@VladMoneybagsThundershlong3rd 2 ай бұрын
Boeing knew but did nothing. Imagine that. 🙄
@gameboylyrik2801
@gameboylyrik2801 3 ай бұрын
Very sad. This is very similar to American flight 191, almost exactly the same failure.
@twatts4436
@twatts4436 3 ай бұрын
Your new graphics style is on point! 🤌
@derekantill3721
@derekantill3721 3 ай бұрын
I remember this tragic accident happening some years ago. A really gripping video.
@apveening
@apveening 3 ай бұрын
You are giving away your age, it was in 1992.
@auroraaa._.
@auroraaa._. 3 ай бұрын
Ooh a new video has come! It means Green Dot has completed his flying tests 😻
@SemirGospodarSvihSvjetova
@SemirGospodarSvihSvjetova 3 ай бұрын
Bone freezing last ATC call. May the pilots and everyone else rest in peace.
@peterjones4621
@peterjones4621 2 ай бұрын
What a terribly sad story, all those poor people in their apartments dying from a jet crashing into their complex, something you'd never expect to happen, and the brave pilots who did everything they could to get the plane landed, may God rest their souls in heaven.
@alpha_echo
@alpha_echo 3 ай бұрын
love your videos!!!
@kadere9234
@kadere9234 3 ай бұрын
Waited so long for this video
@elena8953
@elena8953 3 ай бұрын
I've never been this early for a video before
@bagusmuliapradana1732
@bagusmuliapradana1732 2 ай бұрын
Literally my jaw dropped when the animation shows the engine fall off
@Secretlyanothername
@Secretlyanothername 3 ай бұрын
This reminds me a lot of QF32. I wonder if things could have been different in this accident, but have huge respect for the pilots who did everything they could to keep this plane in the air.
@dann5480
@dann5480 3 ай бұрын
Hearing the name Israel after recent happenings 😐
@bibiberlin6220
@bibiberlin6220 3 ай бұрын
Guys please leave your soothing intro theme with no voice over and great voice work content with no music backround. The videos are fantastic.
@barlowike9814
@barlowike9814 3 ай бұрын
I love this channel, there’s not a single episode that I have not watched ❤
@ericnickel3280
@ericnickel3280 Ай бұрын
They were so close. What a tragic loss.
@koharumi1
@koharumi1 3 ай бұрын
I remember there was possible speculation (from what I remember, been a long time since last watch it) that Israel was receiving some explosives or weapons on this flight. Can't remember what channel though.
@reddwarf4278
@reddwarf4278 3 ай бұрын
“Possible speculation” is really grasping. When you actually find proof, come back
@facelessman9224
@facelessman9224 3 ай бұрын
They didn't hire enough strong and empowered diverse women at Boeing. They need to work harder at their DEI quotas, it's the only way to fix this.
@jayceex9289
@jayceex9289 2 ай бұрын
Was waiting on this one!
@foxhero1337
@foxhero1337 Ай бұрын
"How could the plane simply fall apart in the sky?" "It's a Boeing." "Oh, gotcha. How could the plane even get off the ground?"
@acreationofallah
@acreationofallah 3 ай бұрын
Very good video just you did a mistake it Ben gurion airport in PALESTINE NOT ISRAEL
@ymodnar
@ymodnar 3 ай бұрын
m8 don't show your political stuff here
@vulpes7079
@vulpes7079 3 ай бұрын
Tel Aviv is in Israel
@samy7013
@samy7013 Ай бұрын
@@vulpes7079 : Nope. It’s Palestine.
@ryan_equest6233
@ryan_equest6233 23 күн бұрын
@@samy7013 Before palestine and israel it was British so lets stop this debate and give it back shall we?
@TheYottaTube
@TheYottaTube 3 ай бұрын
Great animations, and I loved how you added the KLM A310 into it.
@nermeenhamada6447
@nermeenhamada6447 3 ай бұрын
The suspense has ejected my adrenaline right off the roof ufffffff. I really was praying and still hoped for a miracle to happen . May GOD bless their souls .
@apveening
@apveening 3 ай бұрын
No suspense for me, it was opening news on the 20:00 news at TV that day, at that time the best watched broadcast of the day in the Netherlands.
@eightyone8071
@eightyone8071 3 ай бұрын
I feel Bad for the people from netherland. For the Israeli aviators i don't feel Bad.
@loftbuckleyrc
@loftbuckleyrc 2 ай бұрын
Why, because they are Jews?
@HaYlEeXx19
@HaYlEeXx19 2 ай бұрын
Because they are Israeli?
@eightyone8071
@eightyone8071 2 ай бұрын
@@HaYlEeXx19 yes because they also didn't feel Bad while Killing innocent people and stealing their Land.
@HaYlEeXx19
@HaYlEeXx19 2 ай бұрын
@@eightyone8071 you personally knew these 2 pilots?
@eightyone8071
@eightyone8071 2 ай бұрын
@@HaYlEeXx19 do you personally knew h*tler? Same stupid question.
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