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Love the Tintswalo boys

Agree, but maybe not so exciting for the Tinswalo males.

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@Bruce Wayne I am aware of that, but thank you 🙏🏻

​@@BruceWayne-sz3thhe's better now Limbila is the newly injured one.

Rite now Ncile is just about healthy and at the moment it would be an all out war and mandevu will not survive this battle alone, he just won’t, these mbiri males are battle hardened bullies, however ncile was once a dominant male so he knows wat it takes to survive so he would stand tall with mandevu and this would be a good fight, lambile would outright lose his life if ncile doesn’t help because he’s in no shape to engage in war rite now so he would be better off sticking with the lioness & pride while mandevu & ncile fight this war 2v2

@@dwaunhawkins460 If one, some or even all of them have some healthy issues, injuries or what else, to win they'd have to fight 3v2. Healthy issues or not an extra lion is an extra lion. 2v2 they stand no chance, Mbiris are just way too formidable, quite possibly the strongest duo in the greater KNP right now.

@@reinsaxony4623 first off, I agree 💯, not sure y ur telling me this because I’ve said & thought the same thing, 3v2 they have a chance and 2v2 wouldn’t be pretty

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Wasn't shaka kinkytales name of the mapogos? If I'm not mistaken

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They are not related in any way

@@dwaunhawkins460 both are from mbiri pride.. They either have same mother or nephew

@@ratulabdullah6798 not sure wat ur talking about?

@@dwaunhawkins460 they are related

@@dwaunhawkins460 they are related , they are from same pride , diff fathers

Nothing happened, Mbiris moved away and returned to their territory.

@@reinsaxony4623 you certain of that?

*OK Good, i like comment bro*

@@reinsaxony4623 but then why come all this way just to go back>

@@kaedenwebb7623 Because they can.

Yes they did, few times even lucky to survive, especially Shaka. Very experienced males in these kind of situations.

They probably had more territorial battles than any other lions.

@@BruceWayne-sz3th Literally none of these males had more territorial battles in even numbers or while outnumbered than them. The only lion who matches them in this regard is Mr.T, but Mbiri's fights, especially Shaka's, were much more brutal than Mr.T's fights. Only fight Mr.T had that was as brutal as those of Shaka was the one he died against the 4 Selatis. Also Mr.T is dead and Mbiris are 9yo so chances are they'll surpass Mr.T's numbers ( IIRC Shaka and him are evenly matched in the number of territorial fights, or Mr.T has one more ). Also, Notches, seriously? They have literally 0 fights in even numbers or while outnumbered that is documented. Makhulu has only one fight 1v1, it was against Gwarri Bush Male Nhlanguleni. I know you value bravery in a lion, but you're probably not very familiar with Mbiris, if you do a research on them you'll see they are the GOAT in terms of lion warriors, they have everything Mapogos had, but are much bigger.

@@reinsaxony4623 you seem to know your thing around these two male lions, do tell me how many fights has they've been in? I'm genuinely interested

@@leonaswwife Out of my head the smaller and more dominant Mbiri male has some 8 serious territorial fights while he was either outnumbered or fighting with even numbers. If you look at him after his fights he was a complete mess with huge holes on his face, he almost lost his eye some 3 times. He was once caught by 3 Nharhu males, got wrecked and fully recovered. Only Mr.T of the Mapogos had a similar amount of territorial fights without outnumbering the opponents, but his fights were never as brutal as those of the Mbiris, with the exception of the fight where he got killed by the 4 Selatis. With the exception of his last fight, Mr.T never got a fourth of the injuries Shaka got in just one of his many fights. Also in terms of chasing rivals, Mbiris have defeated multiple coalitions this way, in fact when they weren't even 4yo, they chased 2 prime dominant Mapoza males out of their own territory which is completely out of these world, you'll literally never see anywhere else 3yo males chasing dominant rivals at even numbers.

You're joking right? You can add all the Tintswalo males and RRM together and they wouldn't have half the clashes, fights and victories the Mbiri have. There're no greater warriors in the lion world than the 2 Mbiri males, and they did chase the Tintswalo males despite having no real interest in taking over, they are already dominant over the 5 Birmingham Breakaway females, the Skorro pride, and controlled 2 other prides in the past. From the Mayambula pride they have 3 daughters that have cubs and 6 sons that are already dominant males. They have many subadults in the Skorro pride and new cubs from the Birmingham Breakaway pride, they are as well accomplished as anyone could ever expect from 2 males, and still going strong at 9yo, ready to raise many more cubs and increase their legacy. They don't need any more territories or prides, nor they need to prove anything to anyone.

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Totally agree....idea is that Tintswalo boys are not in the best shape to face Mbiris that are more confident and in a very good condition, but let's see...tomorrow is another day in the bush...

​@Marius Adrian Cuc wrong there in prime condition??I don't know what you ppl watch..only thing is lamibile is limping lil bit, doesn't stop from moving around..

​@@mariusadriancuc377 plus zigzag and Shaka left the area already..

Oh they are, you'll be hard-pressed to find lions with anywhere near as many territorial battles as these 2.

@@BruceWayne-sz3th They are still in their prime, just not for much longer.

​@@reinsaxony4623 at 10

@@kylemisac2492 10yo? They're 9, they'll turn 10 in november/december.

@Rein Saxony well I new there born 2013

Limping one in lambile He's sick from the start

@@ratulabdullah6798 The brothers really need to accept Ncilie back as a full member or they will have no chance. I hope they don't venture near Red Road.

​@@robertbreslin469They might just do that since he's alone.

@@robertbreslin469 what are you talking about?? they have all along just snare slowed down ncila ..you ppl have no clue what going on..nicla hangs with pride to keep safe while lamibile and Mandevu go patrol there territory..nicla is beast..you listen to guides and rangers that humanized these animals..

That lip can't be normal.

@@bobbrown8173 Yes, that assumption was implicit in my question about the most likely specific cause.

@Bruce Wayne right!! there getting old end of there prime at 10..

​@Bruce Wayne The Mbiri's are combat-worn, experienced and confident...and really none of the Tintswalo's are in peak condition at the moment. Lambile is the most vulnerable, I hope these guys stay together. I hope the Orpen subadults and the younger cubs are ok.

They r 9yrs old and still have plenty left in the tank, those who know and follow them should already be aware of their capabilities, plz stop believing and listening to nonsense and folks do ur own research, if u don’t have any contacts who can confirm info then it’s plenty of info out there to learn on ur own, but just know that these mbiri males are battle hardened and knows this vast territory very well

@@sillygirl3284 well lately ncile has gain just about all of his weight back, he’s about 475Ibs at the moment which is great for him to do since that near death experience from that snare incident, and lambile has been sick for some time now, their father & uncle or mom had a very genetic disease that been passed on thru genetics which killed two of the tumbela males and two female lioness of their family, so at the moment lambile is losing the battle with this disease & will not be of any services to his pride to fight the mbiri males and lastly mandevu is one of the biggest dark mane males in all of sabi sands at the moment, he’s in excellent condition, however, it’s just so happen that the only larger males that may be bigger then him in sabi sands just happens to be zigzag of the mbiri males who is laying down the challenge to them in which mandevu will have his hands full with just zigzag, he will not have room nor time to aid any of his brothers during this battle, sadly in my opinion this huge take over or challenge leans on the shoulders of ncile, believe it or not, they need him badly for this fight, everyone will have to fight in this battle or it will be lives lost in this war, let’s hope for the best!!

@@dwaunhawkins460 I understand what Ncile can offer the coalition if you look back at all my comments since the snare incident; I have followed these males since there was four of them. Yes, Lambile has bad genes that makes him susceptible to any injury or infection including rampant TB; Mandevu is smaller than Ncile, but Ncile still has decreased jaw/bite mobility because of his scar from the snare but just his presence alone in roaring and scent-marking could be benefit the coalition greatly.

The two Mbiri Males have left the area. It looked like they were just giving the Tintswalo Males a reminder!

@@tintswalovirtualsafari where was the 3rd tintswalo male

Same!

His bottom lip that seems to have lost muscle. Perhaps from a fight with a rival male.

In february 2022 he was seen badly beaten after a fight with rival males. One of his injuries was that mouth injury, though many speculate that it was actually from a zebra kick or something and he just coincidentally got injured in a fight around the same time.

Yeah, I'd like to know as well.

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that was suspected to be the birmingham boys.

That was the boys or he wouldn't be here.

@Hunt Fish come on my comments acting like you know something.. you'll obviously a troll doesn't know much..

@@kylemisac2492 Just calling your BS.

@Hunt Fish lol I'm calling your bs troll trust me . I know more you.. keep living in fansty world buddy..

It's doesn't matter who bigger!! It's size of the heart..there both big males

Yeah I was thinking that to

Nonsense, ZZ is bigger, literally everybody knows this and lodges and rangers and photographers have always referred to him as "the bigger Mbiri". They are the same size in length and height, but ZZ have a more massive body.

jaw itself is ok but part of the lower lip was ripped way from where it attaches to front of bottom jaw

He's had that over a year at least -he's been doing fine with it.

Yeah the Mbiri males were born into the Mbiri pride, sired by the Matimbas in 2013. All 3 Tintswalo males were sired by the Thanda Impi males.

@@styx5131 ty for clarifying styx...I did not know that they were sired by matimbas!!

Sorry meant the other coalition you mentioned!!

Yeah nobody's beating Mbiris in a fair fight. At best I can think of Leeubron males but their huge size aside we know nothing about their capabilities, and other powerful duos like PCM, S.Avocas and Gijima males are too far away in Sabi Sands or southern Kruger, they would be a good match in a clash, seeing who chases who, but if it came to an actual fight, Mbiris would be the clear favorites. You'd need a bigger coalition of 3 to take them out.

@@reinsaxony4623 do you think the Red Road male is capable of taking either one of them 1 on 1? Or are they stronger than RR?

@@MrLoesoe I mean in a fight anything can happen and the RRM is a tough bastard, no doubt, he has survived a lot, but Mbiris are in another level, they are bigger, much more experienced and more aggressive. If you look at their feats you'll see they're just busted, just to give an example they chased 2 prime dominant Mapoza males in their own territory as nomads at the age of 3. Even if you look at Mapogos you'd struggle to find them fighting more territorial battles than Mbiris did. The smaller one, Shaka, is almost a psycho regarding fights, in many many instances he has showed up with insane battle wounds, entire holes on his face, but has fully recovered every single time. I'd easily bet my money on any of the Mbiris against RRM 1v1, I'd likely bet on them against any other lion right now.

@@reinsaxony4623 thanks, very useful insight. I already had the feeling this "smaller" male Shaka was at least as aggressive as the bigger male, if not more, because he was walking in front all the time and pushing. They look so battle hardened. I agree RRM would probably lose. RRM seems more like a smart tacticle male than a hyper strong one like these guys

@@MrLoesoe The smaller one is actually the dominant of the 2, which surprised the ranger reporting seeing him dominate his brother for mating rights, saying that generally a bigger male with full dark mane will be more dominant, but not with the Mbiris.

He has all his 4 canine teeth and overall important teeth, the small teeth in the front, between canines, are irrelevant. He has that injury to his lip for over a year now, it doesn't seem to affect him.

His bottom lip seems to have lost muscle. Perhaps from a fight with another male.

@@tintswalovirtualsafari Oh okay. Thanks for the explanation and incredible footage.

Who knows what might have transpired if Ncile was with them. Would they still have retreated? As much as we hate seeing lions injured, you also appreciate the smaller scraps are necessary for both confidence and skill development to both defend one's pride and territory as well as acquire new ones.

Where is Ncile?