Two Planes, One Disaster! | Mayday Air Disaster

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In July 2002, tragedy struck when Bashkirian Airlines Flight 2937 and DHL Flight 611 collided midair over Germany. Discover the errors and events leading to this devastating Zurich tragedy, caused by air traffic control and pilot error.
Mayday Air Disaster S02 E04
0:00 Emergency Over Germany
1:02 Collision Course Begins
3:37 Children’s Dream Trip
8:41 Air Traffic Control Error
14:31 Midair Collision Imminent
19:00 Plane Collision Impact
24:42 Families’ Tragic Loss
33:39 Investigations and Aftermath
44:07 Sky Guide's Responsibility
51:03 Remembering the Victims
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@natehill8069 20 күн бұрын

Having one guy control traffic on two different screens and have to roll back and forth is insane. And to not have ANY form of telephone isnt a lot better.

@Moo2oob 19 күн бұрын

Decisions made by those who don't do the actual work. They are called "Managers".

@paulklaes816 18 күн бұрын

The moment the work crew informed him they were going to be working on the radar so it wouldn't be as effective, he should have had someone call the other controller back in. One controller handling 2 screens that far apart is bad enough when everything is working at optimal efficiency.

@mariopalos9238 20 күн бұрын

The odds of the two planes arriving at the same spot boggles the mind.

@natehill8069 20 күн бұрын

That used to be official air traffic control policy. Until 1956.

@jfh667 20 күн бұрын

They follow virtual lines in the sky. And they go to the same places. They inevitably cross path.

@mariopalos9238 20 күн бұрын

@@jfh667 Still, when you consider the different speeds and angles they were moving at. The timing that was required for both planes to converge.

@marcbloemen2082 20 күн бұрын

They don't really though, do they.

@user-ss6bm3vx7v 15 күн бұрын

Actually very easy...there are flight paths...and every plane use them.

@KatVog 21 күн бұрын

I feel bad for everyone involved. That controller didn't do that on purpose. He had to live with that horror every day in his mind.

@shoepanda 20 күн бұрын

Yeah. And then paid with his life. :(

@greenpegatrix3773 20 күн бұрын

I can imagine something happening with the controller who went on break. "If only I was there..."

@scotthayes4135 15 күн бұрын

The man that lost his whole family in that tragedy murdered Peter Nelson in an act of revenge. Still that didn't bring his family back and it made him a wanted criminal. Like the moral of a story by Edgar Allen Poe. To get revenge one must commit a crime.

@georgestroudukian6227 11 күн бұрын

@@scotthayes4135 He spent a few years in jail and then was released.

@georgestroudukian6227 11 күн бұрын

@@shoepanda According to Kaloyev, Nielsen showed no signs of remorse, but on the contrary behaved with arrogance and contempt. Like the Swiss do.

@jfh667 20 күн бұрын

No radar, no phone, no TCAS. Go figure something went wrong. At least both screens were on the same floor.

@Josh.Davidson 18 күн бұрын

They had TCAS. The Russian pilots ignored it.

@MegaFieldy1 14 күн бұрын

@@Josh.Davidsonhave you watched the episode?

@Josh.Davidson 14 күн бұрын

@@MegaFieldy1 yes, which is why I commented. Did you?

@scottirvine121 13 күн бұрын

Think he meant no STCA for the controller

@KabukeeJo 17 күн бұрын

SkyGuide Management is fully responsible for this tragedy. Sadly, it was the controller and 2 planes full of people that paid the price. RIP to all those lost.

@lesleymorgan01 19 күн бұрын

The Controller was also a victim. And so many people blamed the victim instead of the real culprit: a corporation.

@starry53 21 күн бұрын

Lack of manpower in the control tower really impacts the incident the most. Human error, yes. But it was not truly his fault. Also the machine can be part of it too.

@gaminghamz2024 20 күн бұрын

True

@lihuanhuan2003 20 күн бұрын

True

@hermansohier7643 5 сағат бұрын

I totaly agree and don't forget the maintenace work they did that specific day .

@renasauceman 20 күн бұрын

This one was hard to watch. So many lives touched in this one accident.

@larrypatterson5363 19 күн бұрын

Yes, but clearly this is one of the best produced episodes I’ve ever seen. An amazing story!

@user-ss6bm3vx7v 15 күн бұрын

Jesus people are sensitive.I bet worst things happen , every day, near YOU!!!!!!

@gregmiller9710 21 күн бұрын

..when you compare your own problems of today with what these poor folks have suffered you realize you really ain't got no problems...

@jlthomas531 21 күн бұрын

Yayyy they brought the old narrator back!!!!

@Soffity 20 күн бұрын

I think they had different narrators depending on which country they were selling it to. Jonathan Aris is my favourite narrator too. He is just great. He has done all the Australian released ones since season 2. I think they are now up to season 22. They are so well done, interesting and frightening all at once. Greg Fieth is my favourite investigator. He now has a KZfaq channel with a couple of other retired investigators. I must have watched this one 10 times. It’s beyond tragic on so many levels. All the best to a fellow J. Aris appreciator. 🌈🦘

@ArmenianKingdom 20 күн бұрын

@@Soffity I can't even watch if someone else presents the documentary. This gentleman really feels with us. and these documentaries are monumental ; we pray, we suffer, we share victims' pain. it is very important.

@jameswest8280 19 күн бұрын

That's because it's a reupload.

@MikeDCWeld 21 күн бұрын

This is exactly why TCAS RA's *_ALWAYS_* override any and all ATC instructions until it is resolved!

@greenpegatrix3773 20 күн бұрын

Unfortunately, that didn't become the international standard until after this accident.

@cheery-hex 17 күн бұрын

tbh if I were a pilot in that situation I'd prob follow ATC b/c I'd figure they could see better than me how the planes are positioned

@lisaborsella5412 20 күн бұрын

The incredible reenactment is heartbreaking!💔

@tomwiggins1225 15 сағат бұрын

Watching videos like this will make you think twice about flying again

@StefaniClowdis 20 күн бұрын

Think about the other guy on a break….when that much equipment isn’t working, go get him

@FNaveed23 18 күн бұрын

The actors’ resemblance to the pilots is remarkable

@differenttakethanmost 20 күн бұрын

47:14 THAT “standard practice” is pure insanity.

@bobjones9727 20 күн бұрын

Why didn't the controller call back the other controller who was on a break as soon as the workload picked expectantly and surely when the maintenance people requested to remove from service several critical systems???

@cheery-hex 17 күн бұрын

not only was he insanely busy, the other guy was prob outside not near a phone. Also quite experienced so maybe he thought he could handle it. the vid said he was unaware that smthg needed wasn't working properly

@Sahilprakash1999 20 күн бұрын

8:28 Wow, that kid was a really smart artist

@coolcat8b 19 күн бұрын

was

@jamesfigueroa382 4 күн бұрын

Pilots need to proceed with extreme caution..!

@aiz-amazing3945 18 күн бұрын

This is the most heartbraking reenactment 😢😢😢. So sad. No survivor. Midair.

@Geronimo2Fly 20 күн бұрын

I will never understand why those Russian pilots didn't say, "But TCAS is telling us to climb!" Then Nielsen would've known that TCAS was telling the other pilots to descend. Why did they muddle through without expressing their concern and confusion to ATC? I know it's easy to armchair quarterback, but this seems so obvious. In any event, the people truly responsible for this tragedy are the management at ATC. They NEVER should have arranged for critical equipment to be shut down without ensuring extra personnel would be on duty that night to handle any issues.

@jetblackjoy 20 күн бұрын

Because this was not the procedure? People do what they are trained to do under stress but everyone is smart in their armchair (especially when there are some Russians to blame).

@cheery-hex 17 күн бұрын

they were literally cut off by ATC b/c (ATC) was dealing with another plane and couldn't respond for 23 seconds. It says so in the video

@jamestew5075 13 күн бұрын

@timothyconard2825 17 күн бұрын

A top five episode, no doubt.

@br4nd0nh347 20 күн бұрын

Something we could learn by this is that you should know, even generally, how your systems and alerts work. Even before it was standardized (listening to TCAS first), knowing how TCAS works would help you make an informed decision (which may conflict with ATC) since at the end of it all, the pilot has control of the aircraft.

@Vic-xq9us 9 күн бұрын

A very well constructed and educational docu and the reenactment is powerful and yet so sad. Sympathy to all the families ; I was especially struck by the man (the architect) who lost his entire family.

@vahanyazarian5582 13 күн бұрын

Deeply touched because it was not fiction. R.I. P.

@Wildrover82 21 күн бұрын

Waiting for all the brats who will complain they've seen this already. Watch something else then. Simple as that.👊

@HansDurchdenwald 21 күн бұрын

Facts

@greenpegatrix3773 20 күн бұрын

There seem to be rerunning season 1. At least they made it available internationally this time.

@katrinarucker2326 18 күн бұрын

Sure, they can start with the playlist. There, they can find this exact SAME EPISODE with a DIFFERENT TITLE! So stop complaining about why other "BRATS" you call them complaining about reuploads. Keep scrolling if you don't like it. Simple as that.

@Wildrover82 18 күн бұрын

@@katrinarucker2326 unsubscribe from the channel if it upsets you that much.

@user-eh4he5jg1y 5 күн бұрын

I feel so sorry for the families who had loved ones on the aircraft… it is just so sad for them… I hope whoever reads this will be with your loved ones…

@jlthomas531 21 күн бұрын

So Sad 😢 if the travel agency didn't bumble the first jet and caused the children to miss it, they would all probably still be alive.. so sad I can only imagine the person responsible for that mistake feels a tremendous amount of guilt 😢💔

@jagirl966 21 күн бұрын

The controller wasn't put in the best conditions for this. Even so, he felt bad enough. The only good that came of this, as with all disasters, is the updated safety regulations that are SUPPOSE to be followed, but we know companies will find loopholes and shortcuts.

@gaminghamz2024 20 күн бұрын

I hate the travel agency

@coolcat8b 19 күн бұрын

You mean the company responsible for this. Skyguide put one controller in charge of two radars, then removed most of the tools he needed to control air traffic, then gave him a coin to flip to decide on a last minute emergency. That collision is Skyguide's fault, and the death of those children is the end result of a weird string of random events (travel agency made them miss their flight, etc.)

@zayastorms8069 21 күн бұрын

Idk why I come back, it’s all reuplods

@jlthomas531 21 күн бұрын

Aviation addiction?

@Ezra411st 21 күн бұрын

I don't even know it's just a morbid thing to watch ig

@gregmiller9710 21 күн бұрын

..hope....and one maybe ya missed is on....^^

@zayastorms8069 21 күн бұрын

@@jlthomas531I think I read the tone wrong, but probably

@zayastorms8069 21 күн бұрын

@@gregmiller9710yeah

@jesterr7133 5 күн бұрын

This entire situation is beyond horrible. I feel so sorry for everyone involved. It is so sad. The victims didn't deserve it. The families didn't deserve it. The air traffic controller didn't deserve it. So many unfortunate circumstances conspired together to cause the disaster.

@Soffity 20 күн бұрын

There were five pilots in the cockpit on Qantas 32 when engine 2 exploded after take off from Singapore. The two check captains knew the captain in the left seat was in charge and the five of them worked and resourced together to bring 😊 the crippled A 380 back to Singapore with all on board safe and sound. This accident in 2002 certainly brought following TCAS over ATC to the fore but like most accidents it was a chapter of faults starting with the wrong airport. However Sky Guide to me should never have had Peter working alone with all the maintenance going on around him and his colleague on an extended break. I still don’t understand why the two planes were at the same altitude in the first place, I thought they had corridors in the sky where depending on which direction you were going you had to be at a specific altitude. If anyone can explain this over sight to me I’d be interested to read it. This happened 22 years ago. I hope the families have found some peace.

@F7Aengineer 20 күн бұрын

It's sad story over all all those kids Robbed of a bright future

@moto__shark 19 күн бұрын

My grandfather used to fly a TU-154 in the Soviet days.

@beckylynn209 16 күн бұрын

What a miracle that the dad found his little girl's necklace.. Poor man lost his entire family.. What a mess.. All those bright children, God help the families.. 😞

@huntergreene9781 13 күн бұрын

So SkyGuide management had mysterious technicians come in to do random maintenance of which the controllers were unaware? Yet they threw Peter under the bus. This system maintenance should have been properly coordinated to ensure all hands were on deck due to the faulty delayed system and downed phone lines. Peter is not at all to be blamed.

@danknate 20 күн бұрын

2 Planes, 1 Disaster..... what a title

@natehill8069 20 күн бұрын

Did the outgoing shift not brief the incoming shift that capabilities were drastically reduced? What do they do at shift change, just high five at the door?

@coolcat8b 19 күн бұрын

Because it happened after they changed shifts. Watch the video again.

@user-gf6pn2lx2t 16 күн бұрын

One of the saddest air crashes which.. which could have been avoided easily

@bluebelle8823 15 сағат бұрын

I've seen this episode a couple of times and I know it sounds callous but the single mother has never properly grieved her son. She is still acting like he might come back. There is so much needless death in this episode. The controller was a victim as well, as everyone seems to forget about the DHL crew. Oh ffs Kaloyev was found guilty of manslaughter but with a reduced sentence due to "diminished responsibility". He goes home and is treated like a hero. Becomes a minister. Ends up with the highest medal available to the state.

@ArmenianKingdom 20 күн бұрын

to blame only on controller was wrong. but the man was out of his mind because of grief.

@linda10989 20 күн бұрын

I don't condone what he did, but as a mother I understand why.

@ombrepark4315 17 күн бұрын

I hope he spent many years in jail.

@satiricalzero 17 күн бұрын

@@ombrepark4315 He didnt spend long in jail, and he got an award when he got back home

@ombrepark4315 17 күн бұрын

@@satiricalzero oh, how disgusting. :(

@cheery-hex 17 күн бұрын

@@satiricalzero wut

@barry7608 17 күн бұрын

The issue between air traffic controllers and TCAS had already been exposed via the near collision involving the 2 Japanese planes. It's the authorities who had FAILED to see a clear communication issue and did nothing to clarify WHICH instruction should be followed. This is where the problem originated, by well paid authorities sitting on their hands. I have been a safety officer in an entirely different field, and I became aware of the 'brick walls' encountered at company and controlling authority level when safety requires changes. Too lazy, too arrogant and too self important to be concerned with a 'possible' safety issue raised from those below their lofty pay scale. I resigned my position simply because of these pigheaded attitudes.

@trianrobloxgaming8363 12 күн бұрын

Rest in peace 😢😢

@sharonhaywood2818 7 күн бұрын

You can clearly see that that man was out of his mind he showed the control of pictures and then he stabbed them not knowing that they can take the pictures and track them back to him. I feel so sorry for them

@StefaniClowdis 20 күн бұрын

I cannot believe the ATC

@synstreamings 15 күн бұрын

There are more things than meets the eye. It was sadly a chain of critical events!

@nurrizadjatmiko21 14 күн бұрын

This reupload video episode is way better than before and pretty hard to watch😢. This is also one of the most tragic aviation accidents that i have ever learn. That controller was not really guilty for the accident.

@xanseviera 13 күн бұрын

lama sgt kawan2 dia pergi mengopi

@MikeDCWeld 21 күн бұрын

Peter should never have cleared DHL to FL360 in the first place. Putting him at FL350 would have likely satisfied the DHL crew's request for increased altitude while ensuring appropriate separation fromthe other traffic present in the sector. That said, if he had been kept distracted just a little longer, or the other control center had been allowed to contact the planes directly, this likely could have been a mere incident instead of an accident.

@harrieelias5756 3 күн бұрын

I can’t watch this video so sad

@sharonhaywood2818 7 күн бұрын

That's common sense not to leave one man monitoring more than one screen that is common sense.

@maximodakila2873 12 күн бұрын

The families should be compensated by the SkyGuide

@Bill_Dippertly 20 күн бұрын

Why are these videos like 1990’s PBS documentaries.

@differenttakethanmost 20 күн бұрын

😂🤣😂 bc they ARE 🤦🏻‍♀️

@Bill_Dippertly 20 күн бұрын

@@differenttakethanmost 😂

@Barbara-yh3gg 13 күн бұрын

Me too.

@crilleboys 16 күн бұрын

Rip Peter

@shanesingh4293 15 күн бұрын

Mom: he needed some rest and it was a good opportunity for a summer holiday.. Forces of the universe: I will take him away forever 😢😢😢😢

@sharonhaywood2818 7 күн бұрын

If he was robbed of all the technical support he needed he should have notified his supervisor everybody is at fault!

@WLT-me 19 күн бұрын

is this plane filled with children (i am a child)

@WLT-me 19 күн бұрын

yes

@katrinarucker2326 18 күн бұрын

More reuploads. I guess KZfaq don't want to put in new episodes or new seasons in. Here's a thought. If you're wondering why people are complaining about reuploads, go to the playlist. You'd be shocked by how many times these episodes get played over and over with a different or misleading titles.

@stephenmapeka7774 14 күн бұрын

It's easy for me to judge but what i know&it makes perfect sense, If ATC&aircraft's TCAS give contradictory warnings pilots are instructed to follow TCAS.Pilots of flight 2937 didnt and followed instructions from ATC.

@zainabxim88 20 күн бұрын

The guy who killed the controller bro he did so wrong but we can feel him 😢💔💔He lost his whole family

@vitahah91 20 күн бұрын

Result of deep russian propaganda. The whole nation is fully filled with it. In russia, they blamed the controller on day one with no evidence.

@girl1213 20 күн бұрын

And now the controller's family lost him and are angry at the guy who murdered him The cycle of revenge never gives any peace

@zainabxim88 20 күн бұрын

@@girl1213 true that's heartbreaking💔

@cheery-hex 17 күн бұрын

yeah but he only made more children suffer... Peter's kids and wife

@zainabxim88 17 күн бұрын

@@cheery-hex I agree 💔

@FredyArcanta 15 күн бұрын

In the name of cost reduction ...

@DARKSIDE-99nine 20 күн бұрын

cant they just calculate the time and avoid a point of intersection even if the planes are hundreds of feets above and below each other

@mvrielen 19 күн бұрын

The German accent is so funny 😂 (I’m german myself) haha

@ladonnaramirez4467 14 күн бұрын

The air traffic controller should have had his name changed and gone into hiding. Noone wanted this to happen but people tend to use anger & blame when dealing with grief. So tragic.😢

@WLT-me 19 күн бұрын

rip the cvs

@startupedition6874 20 күн бұрын

Admit it, you searched this after seeing the 1956 Grand Canyon collision episode

@_framedlife 16 күн бұрын

I am still thinking why'd they need 5 pilots

@lisaborsella5412 20 күн бұрын

😢

@natehill8069 20 күн бұрын

If its not written policy someplace (BEFORE the accident) that you HAVE to obey TCAS over ATC, then no, it was not an "error" for the Russian crew to obey ATC over TCAS and given Russian (and worse - Soviet) culture it was very predictable what would happen. I can understand nobody having thought of it beforehand. But after the Japan incident, it should have been obvious. All these overlapping governmental agencies want control of everything they can get their hands on, this would have been one place where ICAO actually SHOULD have taken the initiative and issued a policy. One month would have been a reasonable time period. 2 years is a joke, make them give their budget back, fire everyone and replace them with workers, instead of bureaucrats.

@cheery-hex 17 күн бұрын

this is all very final destination. poor Peter. no-one is to blame here

@theemptyone7650 16 күн бұрын

Except Peter himself to some extent

@Martinezalex007 13 күн бұрын

Peter was killed

@maramba32 20 күн бұрын

shouldnt be in the same altitude with other planes.

@darlawittmier1793 20 күн бұрын

So far from this channel is don't fly at night 😮

@scotthayes4135 15 күн бұрын

If the tourist agency had taken the kids to right airport to begin with then the tragedy never would have happened.

@ytafan4068 3 күн бұрын

The DHL pilots were the only ones who were completely innocent in this incident. The Russian pilots - they were well trained, but in this industry, the training of all pilots must be standardized and universal. They all speak English well enough to understand instructions. They must all be taught the same set of rules and regulations to avoid these incidents. And in that, that international committee that's responsible for these regulations were responsible. The Swiss Air management - they were the ones who were primarily responsible. They set up the rules and regulations on how things are operated there, and that made things nearly impossible for the Air Traffic Controller to perform his assigned duties properly. So here's the distribution of responsibilities: Swiss Air: 70% International piloting regulations people: 20% Russian pilots: 10% DHL: 0% Air traffic controller: 0%. If any amount of blame is to be assigned to him, it's at most 1%.

@Barbara-yh3gg 13 күн бұрын

All he had to do was ask the lady next to him to help him.

@huntergreene9781 13 күн бұрын

She had an entirely different role and probably was not trained in whatever he was doing?

@stevewheatley243 20 күн бұрын

I keep hoping but it's always the same old videos. Smh.

@Arby1981 16 күн бұрын

Its a June tragedy thats why..

@kevinwatson3874 21 күн бұрын

Take a video that is 15 years old .......... rename it .......... and post it on You Tube every few months as new !

@---xv3zf 21 күн бұрын

There are newer episodes on torrent sites

@skylarpedersen1 20 күн бұрын

its not 15 years old

@StefaniClowdis 20 күн бұрын

The other ATC should have broken the international rules…

@user-fj2ux4el9x 16 күн бұрын

😪😪😪

@bottecchia1214 16 күн бұрын

Best pilots in the world that time the Soviet pilots,why you wouldn't accept?

@Go_Against_The_Flow 16 күн бұрын

Controller was indeed careless. 😡 Despite knowing the gravity of the situation, he just instructed one plane and carelessly moved onto the other screen.

@trishalaxman8209 19 күн бұрын

Please post new content 😒 y recycling old episodes 🤔

@Cursedconsolename 21 күн бұрын

First one here!

@yeahnoonecaresifyouarefirst 20 күн бұрын

😂❤

@herstory911 17 күн бұрын

You have gone A/I. Fake.

@satiricalzero 17 күн бұрын

This is from 2005 so what are you even talking about.

@herstory911 17 күн бұрын

The show was reproduced, but you just look at what you see and never mind me.

@Carla-by9rg 18 күн бұрын

I HATE THAT ALL THOSE CHILDREN HAD TO DIE. I'M SORRY BUT I BLAME THE DUDE THAT "HAD TO TAKE AN EXTENDED BREAK*..... NOT WHEN LIVES ARE ON THE LINE DUDE NO!!!!!!!!!