Spoken like a true non-landowner 🤣 you have to come up with something smarter to say on this channel 👍

I do happen to be a land owner. Very small piece but it counts. Anything that a person does to better their odds is technically baiting. Thanks for replying. I do enjoy your content.

It's called improving the habitat. Which in turn creates more wildlife. If you truly watch Jeff's videos for the content like you claimed, you would understand there's no comparison. Be creative 😊

Thank you so much Lajaun...man you guys are awesome ☺️ I can't wait to hear about it all!

Do true B! Crazy but the bulk of my buck kills have been during the morning hours, no bait of course. Just a different type of hunting but to each his own, for sure! Cool to hear the feedback from you tho...

For sure...BUT, if not pressured at all and in a good spot, man...corn can be gold!

Whitetail Habitat Solutions I put some out when season closes to give them extra food but like John said the turkeys and squirrels set and wait on me to throw it out lolllllll. But they’ve got to eat to I reckon. A good fat squirrel is awful good fried.

@@randlerichardson5826 ha...fattened squirrel - yum yum!

Whitetail Habitat Solutions yes sir nothing like them. When deer season closes I’m goin to fill my freezer with some to. They’re delicious to fries good with the crunchies on them mmmmmmmmmmmmm. GOD BLESS you brother Amen.

@@randlerichardson5826 don't forget about squirrel stew in the crock pot, lol. I fed that to my favorite teacher in 10th grade Home Ec...Mr Dehann, the Chemistry teacher.

Thank you Randle!

That is a lot of fun too! Seems they don't mind coming in close to the house a lot either...enjoy!

In the end that will be a good thing for hunter and herd...but boy, what a change off culture and tradition. Going to be a tough stop...

I hope so

Thank you Noel...I really appreciate it!

Glock...that's a great way to put it! Great observation...

Man, such great comment sand I can greatly appreciate them! Really good points Gregory...thanks for sharing!

That's a great comment for any food source...thanks for sharing

Good points Jody!

They sure will Dan, especially of they hold the impression that there is no hunting pressure at the bait pile. I find it can become the afternoon destination hotspot BEFORE they head to the wide open cut corn fields...basically the bottom of the funnel of daylight movement.

Thanks for the reply Jeff love the channel. So your saying If they hit the corn fields around 430 just as dark is setting. They would probably hit it around 4.

@@danpoli5149 thank you so much for the comment! And really I see that patter with a hidden bait pile or food plot...roughly an hour before dark. Then the ag field movement takes place after dark.

Chill out.

Probably a good thing 😉

Whitetail Habitat Solutions yeah I know but some do anyways. I’m hunting a small knob between two fields that has plenty of white oak acorns this year. The same place I killed the doe with my xbow and the big 6 that would’ve been a 8 but one side of his rack was broken off fighting. I’m wanting to see the one that broke it. Maybe he will come through in the morn. Temp in the morn 17 degrees The should be on their feet. Good luck and GOD BLESS you brother Amen.

@@randlerichardson5826 good luck Randle!

Whitetail Habitat Solutions thank you brother you to GOD BLESS.

Great point PA! It is comepletly fine during the hunting season and before, but during the winter deer are low in energy reserves and it is nearly impossible for them to digest. The corn becomes toxic, attacks their skelital system and they end up dying in April/May. Very poor food choice for folks trying to "save" deer during the Winter.

If you do want to feed deer during harsh winters, what is best then? Sugar beets?

I love bait pile hunters in the UP of MI...very low chance of shooting a good buck and it creates pockets of remote deer that feature a lot of daylight movement. Not necessarily a brain teaser to understand

Matt...I do not, and I think there is a HUGE over reaction to CWD in general. It is an unstoppable, natural force that will run its course no matter what. As someone who has hunted right next to it since 2002...and have managed many parcels within the CWD zones...it really is a non factor except the unfortunate negative response by man. I'm not saying that CWD isn't serious...but I am saying that game department officials need to just let it run its course, because their efforts have proven futile.

Anywhere by the Mississippi River that has public land will be good places to check out few people I know hunt out in that general area from Milwaukee hunt up by Rhinelander

They have people drones now. It’s possible

Thanks a lot Jae! The plots will keep the does...especially when no one else is baiting. It takes all season volume and attraction though...meaning enough food, and enough diversity of food. Good luck again with the search for a Western MI public land hotspot!

For sure! Not necessarily in October or November, but definitely during the Winter if they haven't already been feeding on corn. I actually have a video coming out very soon about that...good point!

Great points Eric...appreciate you sharing experience, low impact always creates success in nearly every deer hunting strategy!

Exactly, well put!

It is legal and they are hunters...so give it a rest 👍 A true hunter wouldn't divide hunters....

i am a true hunter. i believe rifles and bows are plenty of advantage

If it's legal...it's hunting, for sure

That is so true Rob...I am in the same boat. How folks hunt, to each their own. But there so many great tactics that can be employed to deliver I higher degree if success, in my opinion. Thanks for the comments!

James there is a great way to use bait but you are so right! I try to offer a huge amount of non baiting strategies on this channel...I hope that you like them!

@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Yes I do I wasn't successful this year as last year So, Hunting on State land will be more challenging. I have always hunted state land before especially next to a hunt club where the bucks on State land like to fight with the bucks behind the guarded fence whereas seeing scrapes & rubs this year I didn't see any way where I was hunting in St. Helens, MI

@@sarb6p55 hope you can get out some more! I live the late season...bait or not, can be some exceptional hunting that most don't experience

@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 If I owned My Own land I would be there now hunting it. But money has to do a lot with it and I have to do without right now but hopefully, I will get my opportunely one day I am retired and have a lot of time on my hands so I would rather hunt with a buddy that has the same mind skill i do

It's not the bucks you are trying to feed as they eat little during the rut. It's the does you want to draw in. The hookers for the deer. Used along with doe urine and bait several 100 yards from your position. Not right on top of it. Drag a scent trail past the feeder to a good spot for ambush. It's not the food hes after. I mostly bait over a camera too see what bucks are showing up so I dont spend too much time in wasted areas. I scout rubs, scrapes and beds first. Set up a feeder several hundred yards away from the beds and make them come to eat at a pinch point. Than drag doe urine scent out from my stand and watch the bucks put their head to the ground trailing the doe they think left it being doe urine comes from real estrous does they cant tell the difference. Baiting is just a tool for me but not the means. You still have to scout and plan your attack wisely from concealment and wind. Lot of strategy and planning if done right.

Was for 14 years...have hunted the UP nearly every season since the late 80s! Lived there from 98 to 2012. MI the first 42 years if my life ☺️ Hunted there opening day last season...

Oh nice, should I be worried about my hunting this year?! Normally I get giant bucks on my camera, but so far the biggest I got was a 7 and I’m worried for this hunting season, I just hope that some bruisers migrate through

Great point t Randle! I feel very fortunate that I can find locations on public land to get away from people...

Whitetail Habitat Solutions every now and then brother I can get away from people. Sometimes it’s a good thang having somebody around to run deers over on me lolllllll. I’ll set and wait for everybody to get to wanting that biscuit and sausage to head out and take deer they’ve bumped my way. Good luck brother I’m goin in the morn. It’s goin to be round 17 in the morn but I’ll put on extra thermals. Good luck and GOD BLESS you and your family Amen.

So many states do not allowing...I believe a very dying hunting method. I wonder if any state will allow it 10 years from now...

I agree completely

I would disagree, just to the point that I don't have the time or energy to devote to baiting. I know a lot of hunters who bait and lazy would be the opposite word I would use. In fact they work harder than most non baiters that I know...which is one if the reasons why I prefer not to bait...too much time spent and hard work accomplished, for lower chances on a mature bucks. Just not for me. It's a viable method to hunt, and I don't think most who bait are lazy by any means. If that was so...about 1/2 of MI hunters would be considered "lazy", which is just not the case. Appreciate the comments though Perry! We have now a 3rd generation of hunters in a lot of areas that have only been exposed to hunting by baiting, in some regions. Many of those hunters wouldn't know another way to hunt and if they enjoy hunting that way while still legal...more power to them. i am just happy they are hunting ☺️

I don't know, rock picking is a lot more work than hauling in a few thousand pounds of corn over a season, just my opinion. even though we do both, and walk far from roads.@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751

@@jackc.3079 ha, for sure...but dang I wouldn't want to bait like quite a few hunters I know. Just consistently over a 6 week period or more...a few times per week, carrying bait...they can have it ☺️ Rocks...I'd have the kids do that, lol

I don't have that privilege lol. I appreciate your point of view and not wanting to put down viewers who bait exclusively. Although I do feel you're giving the average Michigan gun deer hunter a lot of credit. I also think baiting takes a lot of the fun out of it, with manipulating travel patterns unnaturally, but to each their own. Also I suppose that food plots do this as well, but not to such a small area. Do you think with CWD in the UP now that baiting will be banned? It's scientifically the right thing to do but I realize a lot of what is legislated is up to public consensus, and license sales.@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751

For sure...it's a way of life in some regions. I don't like baiting personally but have done it before and can't say I never will in the future. However what I dislike the most is when other hunters bash hunters for baiting. Can't stand that... Like you said, that bait disappears quickly, lol! Great observation Noel!

I never said I was against baiters or those who bait. But I do know a LOT about baiting and can help folks who choose to do so, or not. You stopping watching doesn't matter to me one bit, BJ 😉 In other words, your loss not mine...thanks for letting me know tho 👍

I respect your honesty and I appreciate it. I was just saying it didn't make sense to watch a video about baiting from a guy that's against baiting. But I'm sure you do know what you're talkin about I don't doubt that one bit.

Agree, food plots and fences are b/s

Huh

Whitetail Habitat Solutions you got to play the game don’t hunt the same spot

@@countryboykokas583 He uses bait, he's not in it for skill or sport.

While baiting does not teach many hunting skills, there are generations of hunters out there who have never been exposed to anything else. Not for lack if hunting skill...just that's what they have started with and all they know. Not a big deal...they aren't lazy (in fact most work harder than many non baiters), they don't lack skill...it's just what they enjoy and more power to them. It's all legal and we are all hunters...that's a good thing

This video isn't about food plots vs bait piles vs ethical hunting or not...but since you went there. I have to laugh at these kind if comments...been reading them for 2 decades. There could be an exception...but I find comments like this come from someone who doesn't bait, can't or won't plant food plots...and has very little less experience if any, with either. To say that a food plot is the same as baiting is not true, in many ways. That's another video all together, but I encourage you to do a lot of reading and watching videos about food plotting...about baiting, and then I whole heartadly invite you to come back to the discussion. Huge differences, but again nothing to do with this video of course.

kind of like using bait when fishing. real fishermen jump in the water with a spear.

It certainly isn't cheating or lazy...heck one reason I wouldn't do it is because it is so much work! Also, when you have entire regions and generations of hunters doing it to the tune of nearly 100%...it certainly is an established, ethical, legal and traditional practice. If we go down that road then inline muzzleloaders, treestand, scopes and trail cameras are all on the list. I hear you...it is very foreign to hunters in some states, but I don't like hearing opinions of cheaters or lazy...because that is hardly the case. And we are all hunters of course 😉 kind of like some of my PA fellow hunters in the cabin I used to hunt out of. A couple thought baiting bear was so terrible...but thought nothing about driving bear with 25 guys out of a thicket and letting loose when he came out of the backside. Different strokes for different folks...doesn't mean anything. Again though...the work it takes to properly bait a blind...they can have it! I don't have that kind of time...

I didn't think of it like that. Good point. I think I'm just jealous I can't bait lol