I’m going to try cranky steps for the first time and install them as high as I can reach and like a 5 step aider for the first time, I was thinking if it works out I should get 20 feet easy with 4 cranky steps and aider.Have you ever tried this approach?

Jra White I haven’t. What are cranky steps? Cranford steps?

SeasonsChange 🍂 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ac5li710l9fHl5s.html they have been out a while, I just got the idea they would work with a aider but going to try them soon

Jra White interesting!

Thanks sir! It has its ups and downs for our hunting passion doesn’t it? You get to hunt on varied ground and sometimes in exclusive areas (on bases) but you gotta figure out new tactics every few years. I’ve come to really enjoy it. Thanks for watching and thanks for such an awesome product.

Thanks for your service!

Thanks man!

TradLife Films Thank you, sir! The turkeys evaded me this spring so I’m consoling myself with fall preparations 👍🏽

Thank you! And thank you for your service

Correct on all accounts. Background cover is the key component. Couldn’t agree more, she’s now my fiancé! We’re getting married next year 👍🏽

Haha Hardly! Thanks man! Enjoyed meeting you!

Thanks Jim! No problem. Looking forward to practicing the bowhunting lifestyle out west!

Thanks for the kind words, Mark! Wish you all the best this season. Have fun out there!

Do your self a favor. Skip the 3 sticks and just one stick and rapel. Half the amount of energy and less money invested and it's way faster and more fun!

The Flying Dutchman Outdoor Channel thanks for watching!

Thanks brother! Good luck to you as well!!

Thank you, sir! Have a great season

Thanks brother! Semper fi to you. Good luck and stay safe as well! 🇺🇸

Hey man! Excited to see what you put out! Best of luck! I’ll subscribe so I can stay abreast of your progress. Word of wisdom here - be ready to feel very different in the saddle, it will take some getting used to.

SeasonsChange 🍂 awesome man thanks for the advice, I’ve played around with a buddy’s but I still haven’t taken a shot out of one. I’m expecting a bit of a learning curve but I’m excited for the benefits of being in a saddle!

LumberJack1112 this will be my 5th season hunting 99% out of the saddle and I still learn something new/get better at it every year. Good luck again, excited for your videos! Hit me up on Instagram if you have any questions

SeasonsChange 🍂 right on man, same name on IG?

LumberJack1112 @military_bowhunter

That’s a great combo, man! Should get you where you want to be. She’s definitely a keeper, we’re married now and have a 10mo old son! Thanks for watching 🙏🏽

Bowhunting Soul Thanks brother! I monkeyed with the 1 stick but never felt fully comfortable with it. If you can get it to work though, it’s as lightweight as you can get! Thanks for watching and good luck this year!

Thanks! Good choice man! Lemme know how that goes!

Thanks for the education, and for your service. Show us how you made your accessory hanger from para cord.

Awesome! Semper fi to you, sir!

Lol, thanks!

I enjoyed it! Lol

Thanks!

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Thanks!

Thanks man! Yea I put a caribeener on the top loop now and hook it to my belt as I climb to the next step. Thanks for watching!

Nice! I haven’t tried that yet.

G2 Outdoors Thanks!

Semper fi!

Thank you! Had to look it up! They’re 20” a piece. So relatively short. Since this video I’ve been able to climb a few feet higher. I keep getting more comfortable with it.

@@SeasonsChange24 Thanks so much for the response. I'm thinking about trying it my self.

Shannon Oran Absolutely! I will be using it for sure this fall. Being able to take just two sticks in most cases will be huge for me

Thanks man! I use a cheap wire gate caribeener . I broke the wire off the bottom of the caribeener so that gate is always open.

Thanks! Linds is a pro now! Great question! I attached a small strap to the molle on the saddle and simply hang the stick in that groove. I turn the muddy stick upside down and slide it in the slot between the foot pegs and the stick itself. You can see in the video how they’re oriented pointed down while on the saddle. On other saddles I just tied a loop of paracord on two sections of molle and do the same thing. Works like a charm. You can also weave a wire gear tie through the molle and twist it around the stick. I’m experimenting w that but for now the strap seems easier. In this vid you can see what I’m talking about better: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aatnbNiJzbm1ooE.html Let me know if that helps or if I just confused you more!

That’s a great option! Helps you get up those big trees with wide bases too because you can place that first stick so much higher

I'm part of the saddle mafia. I've always believed that there's a time and place for each tool. Sometimes a climber absolutely makes sense. Same for a ladder stand or box blind. Great point!

G2 Outdoors Saddle Mafia...😎 Greg, unlike some of the “groupies” you clearly articulate that the saddle isn’t a “magic” solution - it’s a tool to be used in certain (actually most) situations. That’s what I appreciate about you vice some of the other voices out there. You’ve always given the various methods their fair shake.

@@G2Outdoors You are the saddle mafia underboss, Eberhart is the Godfather, lol. I've read Eberhart's first book when it first came out, & it changed everything for the better, I even made an amateur nostalgic video about it with some old salvaged footage I found and converted to digital. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/otqTZ8WEx9qcoWQ.html I love & share your respect for John Eberhart. I've also been a subscriber of yours for a long while & enjoy your content. Also, there's only ten (10) more Tuesday's until opening day of archery season in my home state (NJ), probably yours too! Good luck this season!

@@underdogoutdoors lololol the Underboss!

@@SeasonsChange24 I agree. Where I hunt in GA with all these pines, a climber is a pretty good option for a lot of setups. Especially those close to a road where you don't have to go through any super thick stuff to access.

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Haha. I won’t argue with that, been trying to get to the promised land myself! These are muddy pro climbing sticks. Super affordable and have the best attachment system in my opinion. Those rope cams are the ticket.

Ordered it off amazon. “TRANGO 3 step aider”

Do mean hanging the aider on the bottom step? You absolutely could! It just becomes a little harder to reach down and grab your aider as you’re standing on that bottom step. Good thinking

Haven’t tried that yet. Honestly hadn’t heard of it till your comment. There are pros and cons to every method. I’ll check out 2TC

Hey man! Thanks for watching. When I got it a few years ago it was called the TRANGO three step aider. Just found it on Amazon

@@SeasonsChange24 OK thanks for getting back to me.

amzn.to/3JSEXL1 here's the link!

Valid points. I think that could work very well and I know a lot of people use the method you just described

Thank you! They are!

Good question! I started clipping the aider to my saddle with a caribeener as I climb to help mitigate that. Another thing you could do is permanently attach the aider with cord to your belt or saddle with enough slack that you can still climb. Definitely something to be wary of.

I’ve tried that but it is not comfortable. Also hard to get around the tree with only the factory steps on my muddy sticks. Some guys do modify their top stick by placing a platform on the top.

Are you asking about the hook that I hang it on? It’s a cheap little carabiner that I took the wire gate off of. Works great!

Guessing you mean bow holder??

@@SeasonsChange24 yes sorry bow holder

Sounds badass!

I think he said Amazon. Also eastern woods outdoors has some I'm sure others try a Google search

Yessir! Got it off amazon but @trash panda is correct, you can find them a lot of places

Amazon

amzn.to/3JSEXL1

TRANGO 3 step aider. Used to be available on Amazon

amzn.to/3JSEXL1

Great advice!

That’s a great method too. I don’t like the aiders blowing in the wind, wrapped around my sticks when packed and… I’m cheap 😂. DIY aiders per stick is a good way to go though 👍🏽

Agree on shot angles. Just need cover 👍🏽

David Fleer thanks for watching and commenting! I’ll try to do something like that later. I hunt in hiking boots or the boots you saw me wearing in the video so stepping into the loops is never an issue for me. I do have some rubber boots with a wider profile... it’s too hot to get in hunting clothes this time of year 😆 But maybe later. I’ve hunted off sticks forever and yes, obviously it’s harder to hike your leg up in heavy pants. So in heavy pants don’t climb as high. No big deal. Climbing down is exactly the same as climbing up in reverse. If I get around to filming in hunting clothes I’ll show that next time.

I've found that for me in late season wearing some lacrosse alpha burly that the step ladder or trier aiders are tougher to climb down. Especially if you don't have a perfectly straight tree. It's doable but you have to be methodical and slow. I've since switched to a versa aider made by back woods mobile gear and it makes the climb up and down much easier. It does limit my height some but trade off is worth it.

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The Flying Dutchman Outdoor Channel thanks for the tip

@@SeasonsChange24 you could do a simple repel setup with a vt backup and pick up your sticks on the way down, for the anchor you can do a carabiner or a quick link if you’re on smaller trees where side loads an issue and have a lead line behind the hitch to pull it down. Would make getting down easier and it’s pretty fun

Interesting theory. Thanks for sharing

For a straight limbless tree, a climber can’t be beat.

Driving to work everyday provides much more job security for first responders than deliberately climbing a tree while wearing a lineman’s belt. While a lineman’s belt or flip line isn’t a 100% solution, if used properly, it will bite into the back of the tree and keep you from falling to the ground. You may get bruised by the tree or cut by your stick but the goal is to avoid major injuries from an uninterrupted fall. I’d invite you to take a look at the first hand accounts of gentlemen on saddlehunter.com and come to your own conclusion. Most falls from tree stands occur when the hunter isn’t using any safety equipment at all.

Yup, gotta be careful

That really depends on where you’re hunting. Wouldn’t you agree?

I got mine off Amazon

Really? I’d never heard that. Makes sense though. Most people I know climb with either sticks on their belt or a stand on their back. I can see what you’re saying though.

Certainly not for everyone!

Yessir! Almost second nature to me now

Always that potential

Jim bob, we didn’t set out to prove anything, just testing a climbing method for potential further use. What would fully setting up have “proved” to you?

Haha. Yup, ended up taking three