Two Years of Near-Perfection - E-flite F-16 80mm Definitive Review

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It's hard to find a better F-16 for the price, at this scale. The only thing that surpasses the E-flite F-16 80mm is possibly the HSDJets F-16, and that's nearly 2x as expensive. Horizon managed to have a fantastic jet produced and we're hoping it never gets discontinued.
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0:00 Intro & ‪@TheRcSaylors‬ Apology
1:15 F-16 Value Comparison (Freewing/E-flite)
2:34 Landing Techniques
4:00 Wind & Turbulence
4:42 High Alpha
5:20 Scale Setups Include Gyros, Inverted High Alpha
6:24 Cobra Maneuvers
7:04 Stalls & Downsides

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@AL-RCjunkie 11 ай бұрын

The jabs in the Super Cub video, while immediately entertaining and funny, were a bit of a downer for me, after some consideration. I'm glad you responded to it in this video. I hope this helps put it all in the rear view. This EDF looks amazing in the air, on the ground, on the shelf- friggin everywhere. Unless it's being flown by inexperienced hands. Then, it looks comically tragic 😂 It seems like a "Love it and master it" or "Meh it and Hate it" plane to me. Looks pretty damn awesome on your sticks, Jon! Great video. Thanks for sharing the experience with us 👍

@matthewcox9952 11 ай бұрын

Other great video Jon!!! Very professional and good on you for apologizing and not being that guy!! I have both the thunderbirds and gray edition 80 mm and love them as much as you do. Keep up the great content it is very informative and nice to learn from someone else’s prospective!!

@charlesdobbyn-zn7zl Ай бұрын

If you wanted to know the spinny cobra from top gun is called a kvochurs bell maneuver

@TwoBrosRC Ай бұрын

Nah, it's a cobra spin.

@airhammer6203 11 ай бұрын

It's always good to clear and breathe fresh air. Nice video Jon, it's an amazing F-16 model, great flying. AirHammer out!!

@patou3375 10 ай бұрын

Nice vidéo, thank you for this two years review!!

@erikshute7153 11 ай бұрын

Hey Jon! Thanks for clearing the air with RC Saylors. Glad you chose to take the high road speaks a lot to your character. Also great flying as always! Love the content.

@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын

Cheers, thank you!

@brianturner4215 11 ай бұрын

Awesome comparison between Eflite and freewing versions. Thank you for the video. I agreed with you about RCSalyors on the poor flying. The call out seems to have worked, they are flying better now on videos, a noticeable difference. Thank you for apologizing to them, I hope they say a blurb about you in upcoming videos. We are all trying to grow the hobby! Keep up the great content.

@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@jeffbrundt7740 11 ай бұрын

Just flew my eflite T-bird yesterday. Absolute fun. Always gets positive comments each time i fly. You are correct on all points. Hopefully eflite keeps it around and if they don't FMS does.

@Aviation.lover32 8 ай бұрын

your talking about thunderbirds? t bird is a nick name for the t33

@Robinrms 11 ай бұрын

Very good review and flying😁

@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын

Cheers, thanks!

@SlowFlyer85 11 ай бұрын

great video and good apologies both groups have there advantages keep the video's coming 😀👍👍

@itzjoeylo4501 11 ай бұрын

I feel the love Jon “Ace” TwoBrosRC all your fans respect you for your accountability with the sailor’s, glad to see I’m subscribed to good people 👍

@Productive-RC 11 ай бұрын

I’m not real big into EDF jets but the f16 really intrigued me.👍

@greendiode5522 9 ай бұрын

The Saylors can be a little goofy but they have some good content. There’s room for everyone. Be excellent to each other!

@riskninja8194 11 ай бұрын

LOVE this

@williamlane6374 11 ай бұрын

Yup for sure love mine, fly it a ton, but did finally have to replace nose gear from it slamming down on many high alfa landings. Finally I but low bounce wheel on nose to damper that

@ModelAV8RChannel 11 ай бұрын

First off Jon...I'm proud of you bro. THAT is how we're supposed to roll. Nate and Abby seem like good folks. On the F-16, still my favorite scale jet! LOVE it. Great job man!

@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын

Thanks Adam! It's unfortunate that this specific F-16 doesn't get the appreciation and love it should be getting for how well-made it is and how capable it is in the sky. It's up there in terms of one of the best jets Horizon has ever produced.

@TT-yg2np 8 ай бұрын

The Eflite F18 was their first jet with full flying stabs not the f-16

@TwoBrosRC 8 ай бұрын

We don't really consider the F/A-18 to have full flying stabs given how limited their travel was. While you're technically correct, in reality they barely moved and would not allow you to emulate how the full scale jet flies.

@redwineisfine 11 ай бұрын

Its funny how life works. Ive been looking at the freewing 90mm and thinking about getting the ARF with the Viper 90mm esc and edf system. Would you say thats a bad way to go for all around speed and full functionality of high alpha.. ? Appreciate your modesty and humility when it comes to life and your channel. On a side note, i can say i used to watch the saylors, however... i no longer need to be sold with entertainment and argumentative KZfaq channels. Your channel offers an opinion and it also values the opportunity to equally disagree without conflict. I can not say that is true regarding the sailors.. they will die on a hill to argue with anyone on their channel over truly nothing of value. Great video, jon.. Appreciate your value to the hobby 😊

@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын

Tossing FMS fans into Freewing jets is doable, it just takes a lot of foam shaving and adjustment to make them fit. Be prepared for some obnoxious amounts of effort to do it, but it is doable if you want to go that route. Thanks so much for the compliment!

@redwineisfine 11 ай бұрын

@TwoBrosRC okay, so 80mm is the best way to go... That sounds like the effort going in doesn't offer a valued outcome. Thank you sir

@kenchen704 10 ай бұрын

Hey two bros, have you tried "spoilerons" on this plane? I got into RC thanks to a certain park-jet designer called Dave Powers, and I remember he positively talked about high alpha with spoilerons. Though it may not translate into heavier jets, I wonder how does it affect the low speed handling.

@TwoBrosRC 10 ай бұрын

We've got this jet set up for that mix, but it doesn't seem to do much - or perhaps we just need to experiment with it more.

@andrewarnold7006 8 ай бұрын

Hi Jon, awesome videos. In the description I see links to two servos. I guess my question is I want to upgrade every servo in my F-16 thunderbird 80mm what exact servos, in what locations on the plane do you recommend? Thanks in advance!

@TwoBrosRC 8 ай бұрын

The only servos that need upgrading to fly like ours (cobras, etc) are the two stabilator servos, which should be upgraded to bit.ly/B13DLM. You could upgrade the rest of the airframe to the same servos, but the stock servos are more than adequate in the rudder and flaperons for almost every kind of flying out there.

@andrewarnold7006 8 ай бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC thank you sir! And thanks for such a fast reply. Awesome channel, keep up the good work! Cheers

@aerospacematt9147 11 ай бұрын

In the intro, you stated that this F-16 was the first E-Flite Jet to have full flying stabilators. Actually, the 80mm F-4 Phantom was the first E-Flite Jet to have them. There was no way to make them have roll control because they were both mechanically connected to a single servo. Also, the 80mm F-18 (Grey or Blue) had full flying stabilators, although the connection point did have a g limit and could pull the nub out of the control horn if overstressed. And also, the twin 70mm Su-30 had the full flying stabilators too. I’m pretty sure that you were referring to the Thunderbirds F-16 being capable of setting up the differential stabilator option, so I just wanted to clear up any confusion that some viewers who had any of the aforementioned products might have.

@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, someone else mentioned something similar too. Big mistake on our part there. Thanks for correcting it!

@aerospacematt9147 11 ай бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC It’s all good! You give so much great information here as it is so a mistake on a minor piece of trivia is no big deal. Keep up the great content! Watching this video inspired me to take mine beyond my current comfort zone today, so I thank you for that!

@RubyS.1 11 ай бұрын

Will you please ask AGFRC if they would carry the B53DHN in their Amazon store? The 20kg are alot faster than the 24. I've asked but they seem to ignore peasants

@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын

We could reach out and ask for ya.

@yamabushisama 11 ай бұрын

It came with a eight channel reciver, where is your set up video, i would like to do stabalators awsome video!!

@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын

Check the description!

@arcturusfpv9652 11 ай бұрын

0:05 The Su-30 was their first jet to come out with full flying stabilators and their first venture into the current standard of scale edf foamies, not the 80mm f16.

@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын

Good catch, thanks for the correction!

@Boeing767DriverAA 4 ай бұрын

Hey Jon, I was looking at getting the 90MM version (Freewing) but it's been discontinued. . But I am curious what material is the landing struts made of? Aluminum?? or Plastic? If I recall the Freewing struts were aluminum. So these struts on the E-flite could be just painted white but still Aluminum??

@TwoBrosRC 4 ай бұрын

The struts on both jets are aluminum. The EF variant is painted metal, the FW variant is bare metal.

@Hangar500RC 11 ай бұрын

I'll be that guy... the RC Saylors are a joke. Anyhow, great video again Jon! I have considered the Thunderbird a few times, I am just not sure still. Every time I buy something that fast I drop a wing and crash...

@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын

Practice high speed stall recovery up in the air and you'll get the hang of it quickly!

@Hangar500RC 11 ай бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC Thanks for the tip, any suggestion on a bird to do that with? I think in the past on Discord you once suggested a Viper 70mm to me after I crashed my p 39 from the same problem, but do you have any other suggestions? I already had one of those and did the same thing LOL

@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын

Come chat with us on Discord and we'll be happy to help. bit.ly/TBRCDiscord

@matthewcox9952 11 ай бұрын

I really hope they bring back the gray 80mm it’s been on back order forever and parts are very scarce as you said, I hope it doesn’t get discontinued. They also have parts for it at rc castle/ Fms version /eflite. FYI. And nobody seems to have the answer if the gray edition will be back some say no , but why would the website say it was back ordered because if they weren’t gonna bring it back, it would be discontinued on Horizon Hobby website. Frustrating. And some say the Thunderbirds took its spot that’s I say hogwash. Lol if you have any information if it will be released again please let me know!! Safe flying 😊✌🏻

@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын

It's highly unlikely that it'll get discontinued anytime soon - especially not with the Thunderbird variant that just released.

@matthewcox9952 11 ай бұрын

Let one hope that your statement is true because with my horizon hobby points I was able to secure a backorder gray edition for 500 bucks versus the 641 normally out the door!!😊

@rickwentworth6842 9 ай бұрын

Where do you fly? That's a great location, abandoned airstrip? Personal property?

@TwoBrosRC 9 ай бұрын

We're in North Carolina.

@adrianamejia5308 8 ай бұрын

Saludos cordiales from medellin

@Boeing767DriverAA 5 ай бұрын

I'd really like to find a 90mm F-16 to buy

@TwoBrosRC 5 ай бұрын

Try this: www.motionrc.com/orcvh4

@robieosborne7369 11 ай бұрын

I'm glad about the apology. It really started to feel like mom and dad fighting 😭

@tweekt1293 11 ай бұрын

What would be a good beginners jet?

@snootz9937 11 ай бұрын

I would go for an “viper” if I was an beginner

@whatsthematter8767 11 ай бұрын

A jet of any kind is not for beginners, get an aeroscout and then another prop plane like a timber, once you have the main skills down I would go for a Habu.

@snootz9937 11 ай бұрын

@@whatsthematter8767 this man is right

@matthewcox9952 11 ай бұрын

The viper jet 15 anniversary is a good transition. Once you have some stick time under your belt and have flown trainer aircraft. For beginners you should start with a Trekker or Fms Ranger both great platforms.

@jaycee1088 11 ай бұрын

I thought the habu was beginner friendly.

@RcPlaneKid-ix5ik 5 ай бұрын

How can you give the freewing one a bad review even though you’ve flown it?

@TwoBrosRC 5 ай бұрын

We didn't?

@jerodlayfield8645 11 ай бұрын

It's about time someone took the responsibility to apologize for bashing other channels! All channels preach about how not to judge other pilots you may encounter encounter in the hobby but yet that's all I see between all the channels and its really discouraging. Thank you for practicing what you preach.

@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын

We appreciate the kind words!

@stevevadeboncoeur3903 11 ай бұрын

As member of the adult community, I find these scripted apologies just as cringe and the whole school girl drama in the first place. Stop trying to make excuses for bad behavior, as there are none. Still thumbs up for the actual F-16 content

@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын

OK, thanks for your thoughts.