Retire your co2 laser? Atomstack A70 70w Diode

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In this video, we dive into the Atomstack A70 diode and put it head-to-head against our trusty 100W CO2 laser. Diode lasers have made significant strides in recent years, and they're becoming increasingly impressive! I believe these diodes establish a more accessible entry point, making laser technology much more affordable for enthusiasts. They continue to advance, becoming more user-friendly and require less maintenance compared to traditional CO2 lasers. But the burning question remains: how do these diodes fare over time with heavy use in a business setting?
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Lasers used in video:
Atomstack A70 70w: shrsl.com/4ii2e
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Laguna MX co2: lagunatools.com/cnc/co2-lasers/
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00:00 Introduction
01:04 Safety
03:19 Size
04:48 Ease of Use
07:30 Recommendations
08:46 Cutting and Engraving
10:47 Materials
12:50 Longevity
14:00 Whats better?
#diode #co2lasermachine #atomstack

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@AlexandreMS71 2 ай бұрын

Radiation = Light Light IS radiation, that's what the stickers are saying.

@robertbankhead8661 3 ай бұрын

Well done! you guys are amazing and your videos are equally amazing. Of course ya'll rock on the cutting board work, that is a lot of work. I can't figure out why you're not at 250k subs though.

@TwoMooseDesign 3 ай бұрын

You tell me 😆 we appreciate you following along 🙏🏼🙏🏼

@BearCreekWoodworking 3 ай бұрын

Thanks Jef and Jess for all of this useful information. I’m just starting to research lasers. So your timing of this video is perfect for me. As for me, I’m mainly interested in engraving at this time. But with a lot of things, that can change with time. Awesome Useful Video!!! 😃👍👊

@TwoMooseDesign 3 ай бұрын

Hey Carl! A 20watt diode would most likely be more than enough especially for mostly engraving but still gives you the ability to cut if you need to. Thanks for watching!

@BearCreekWoodworking 3 ай бұрын

@@TwoMooseDesign Sounds Great ! Thanks! 👍

@BurntUpCustom 14 күн бұрын

Got the a70 max last week. Ready to test this beast out.

@amwoodshopni 3 ай бұрын

Very good video. Thanks for sharing your opinion

@TwoMooseDesign 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@davidlwhitesidearmy 3 ай бұрын

Thx good info

@TwoMooseDesign 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@CaliVapor Ай бұрын

Will it cut 1/4” 3ply bamboo? Awesome comparison and review

@1-Nice-Guy 3 ай бұрын

Nice review, the Atomstack and the higher end Ikier can be purchased with a VERY NICE Class-1 enclosure.

@TwoMooseDesign 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info! I wonder if its the same company? They look pretty similar, I dont think atomstack offers a big enough enclosure so that might bet a better deal with the Ikier.

@1-Nice-Guy 3 ай бұрын

@@TwoMooseDesign Ikier is the high-end division of Atomstack. The enclosure is for the big 70W beast. 😁

@TwoMooseDesign 3 ай бұрын

Nice! I looked them up even the screen looks better haha

@TwoMooseDesign 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! Let me know your experiences with diode lasers as I dont have a ton. Do they hold up with heavy use? If you're interested in the laser mentioned I'll attach an affiliate link. Overall for the price it seems pretty impressive but I dont have a ton of time with it. Click here if you're interested. Atomstack A70 70w: shrsl.com/4ii2e

@onlyychevys 3 ай бұрын

I don't have any experience with a laser but I have a question that I hope you can answer. Can you cut 2 sided tape with a laser? Its made by 3M and is a type of foam core with a plastic peel off on both sides. I have a big need for this if possible. Thanks for your video, I might start looking for something closer to the $1200 to $2000 range.

@TwoMooseDesign 3 ай бұрын

Hey! Pretty much any diode should cut that like butter. I tagged a enclosed creality laser in the description that is a little more affordable.

@ComputadorasESGA 21 сағат бұрын

Can cut and engrave transparent acrylic? And. White material?

@maccaslasher 3 ай бұрын

Good to see the larger wattage diode lasers. ive been holding off buying one till now. Are you going to be doing any reviews on their effectiveness at 3d engraving. I do a bit of it on my 100 watt co2 but i think a diode laser would do a much better job. Great vid.

@TwoMooseDesign 3 ай бұрын

Hey! Thats not something Ive messed with but sounds interesting ill have to look into that.

@user-rj5cr8bi9s 10 күн бұрын

@TwoMooseDesign where is your affiliation code?You know what s the difference between pro and max?

@TwoMooseDesign 9 күн бұрын

You can find It in the description just click the link, the difference is the size of the machine. Thanks for watching!

@Mark-et1pz Ай бұрын

The blue you see out of the vorner of your eye? Thats the "radiation" they're talking about on the sticker. Visible (and invisible) light is radiation. Radiation ≠ nuclear radiation.

@jamesmyatt8132 3 ай бұрын

My issues with my diode lasers that I do not see with better C02 lasers are the mechanical parts. C02 are more like a CNC milling machine and diodes are like a toy. I can do great things but the speed will almost always be held back on the diodes because of the way they are built. It isn’t always cutting ability. 70 watts make me want one and it is easily obtainable but I will always long for the stability but that is where the size and cost comes in. Additionally diode laser may last longer than C02 but the frame and gantry won’t. Just some other things to think about. I will probably be and up getting one of the big 70 watt because it is more affordable and less space

@TwoMooseDesign 3 ай бұрын

100% agree which is why I recommended a higher end c02 if its feasible. I have the same concerns with the diodes, I think they are getting there though! They still need some improvements but overall getting pretty impressive. I dont think it would hold up nearly as well as a well built c02 if its strictly a business purchase. As a hobby I think they are a great option! or even a good starting point to start a business as they have a low entry cost.

@sidehop 28 күн бұрын

Ehhhhh gantry is beefy enough I've had my 20W for years now. It's putting a lot of pressure on the CO2 industry IMO. Sure, there are limits with what it can engrave but along with my MOPA fiber, I'll likely go this route instead of equivalent CO2. Not having to deal with a chiller is a big plus.

@Basement_CNC 25 күн бұрын

throw some mgm12 linear rails on the diode-laser and build a enclosure and you got a "best-od-both" machine

@user-rj5cr8bi9s 10 күн бұрын

This machine has no conveyor belts...it only works on rails

@ROBOROBOROBOROBO 2 ай бұрын

Is 70W delivered power? Because laser diodes from china say 40W but I think in reality they are 5W

@TwoMooseDesign 2 ай бұрын

They claim it’s 70. It sure cuts like butter but it’s not something I actually tested so I’m not 100% sure 🤷🏼‍♂️ single pass cuts 1/2 mdf and 1” wood

@SpoonerSPON 2 ай бұрын

5W is pretty much the limit for a single diode laser. They sold them claiming up to 15W, by running them over power, so they burned out quickly. The newer 20W and bigger diodes are constructed of multiple 5W diodes that are combined into a single outout beam. Xtool 20W models have 4 diodes and 40W models have 8 diodes. This one will probably have 14 diodes stacked in the box.

@OrionsOasisDesigns 2 ай бұрын

Be very careful about the wording and make sure the power wattage rating is for the optical power, not the electrical power.

@AlexandreMS71 2 ай бұрын

This one have 14x 6watts lasers combined.

@user-rj5cr8bi9s 10 күн бұрын

It has a lot of heads inside,6w each...true power consumption must be around 300w

@vigigamehacker123 3 ай бұрын

25 mega amps? lol

@TwoMooseDesign 3 ай бұрын

😆 I believe it’s actually called a miliamp but all I know is it says don’t go over 25 haha

@thediscman123 3 ай бұрын

I cut clear acrylic only Co2 will do that so it doesn't matter how powerful they make the diode lasers they just don't cut clear acrylic so I think co2's are safe for now

@TwoMooseDesign 3 ай бұрын

Correct, I mentioned this several times. It depends on what you do in you workspace, if you dont cut acrylic its not a big deal, it can also do colored acrylic. I also mentioned I would buy a larger c02 laser if budget permits that purchase. Thanks for watching!

@Mark-et1pz Ай бұрын

Not true. IR (or pretty much any non-blue) diode laser can cut clear acrylic.

@unclerichard6729 3 ай бұрын

$1,800 for a diode laser???????????????????? You must be nuts.

@TwoMooseDesign 3 ай бұрын

I said you can get them cheaper. This is just the one I have, there’s tons of them out there. This is also a 70w diode, if you want to buy a 20w diode for $600 by all means do what you want with your money.

@Basement_CNC 25 күн бұрын

good luck finding a cheaper 70w laser......diode,co2 or whatever 😂

@sprinteroz2239 2 ай бұрын

Atomstack suck there customer service is shocking i would never buy that brand again

@TwoMooseDesign 2 ай бұрын

Ive never had to use their customer service so I don’t know

@AchOwed 23 күн бұрын

Wow. You seem very uneducated with respect to the tools you use. You should really look up the definition of "radiation". If you do not know what that is, everything else you say is suspect.