I misread the title as 1980s washburn and was fully prepared to watch you wrestle with the floyd rose of an old neglected superstrat
@ChrisHopkinsBass2 жыл бұрын
I was about to say “that’s an odd Dimebag model”
@squigpeels.10212 жыл бұрын
Another thing to add to the list of things that never happened.
@ileutur68632 жыл бұрын
@@squigpeels.1021 I don't know what its like to be so cynical not to believe I misread a single number, but I wouldn't want to live in your head
@garyburginjr13662 жыл бұрын
Omg hahaha
@dude-guy69 Жыл бұрын
@@ileutur6863he either being very mean to you or he's talking about alternate timeline stuff. Idk
@sewing12432 жыл бұрын
Our host spoke about sharing techniques between luthiers. In the Pro Audio industry a well respected company that does training has as their philosophy: "I met a person with a dollar We exchanged dollars We each had a dollar I met a person with an idea We exchanged ideas Now we each have two ideas"
@yakacm2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but if you both had a $ that means there was 2 $ too, so like what's the point?
@sewing12432 жыл бұрын
I didn't think I'd actually have to "do the math" but here it goes: You have a dollar bill and your friend has a dollar bill. You trade the dollar bills. You still only have a dollar bill and your friend still only has a dollar bill. You have an idea and your friend has a different idea. You and your friend share the two ideas. Now you have his idea and your original idea and he has your idea and his original idea.
@ChuckNicholsonTRM2 жыл бұрын
@@yakacm point is that when exchanging ideas you "double" your knowledge. You don't LOSE anything. It's all gain for both participants.
@seorsamaclately42942 жыл бұрын
I like that. This shows that math and philosophy are fraternal twins.
@roadshowautosports2 жыл бұрын
@@yakacm yes, there was 2$ but only 1$ ended up in each hand, no matter how many times you trade it. Ideas (knowledge) is accumulated and multiplied in each and every trade! Professionals who invented something, and that created the patent need, could hold it as trademark, but professionals who work on something will always have to share their knowledge to enrich the trade, since all we do can be recreate without previous knowledge but, like Uncle Woodford said, with proper tools achieved by anyone with previous experience.
@ibalrog2 жыл бұрын
Wow. The sound of that guitar has a lot more attitude than I expected. Very cool.
@SxSxG6662 жыл бұрын
I expected it to sound like crap. I was wrong.
@timothy46642 жыл бұрын
@@SxSxG666 I found it very bass heavy. Maybe that's him playing though
@RockStarOscarStern6342 жыл бұрын
@@SxSxG666 He made this Guitar sound amazing
@panzerlieb Жыл бұрын
@@SxSxG666 ikr? It had a surprising good classical tone. Was not expecting that.
@RockStarOscarStern634 Жыл бұрын
@@panzerlieb Turns out stringing it left handed allowed for more bass response. I guess whoever owned this Guitar previously re-braced it for a Left Handed Guitar.
@MelodeonTunes2 жыл бұрын
As a fellow repairer, albeit of button accordions, I loved your thoughts on sharing techniques and 'ownership' of them. I have learned from other fettlers (all freely given), and I pass on to others in the same manner.
@Plataani2 жыл бұрын
Nowadays most people think that all ideas are like patents. I try to remember that every technique I use making or repairing anything was invented by someone else.. so my revelations go to anyone wanting to hear or needing it. I suppose it's quite the same in instrument repair business as well.
@Rotary_Phone Жыл бұрын
@@Plataani "I invented all the ideas, and techniques, everyone else is ripping me off, right Robin? Hoo Hoo Hoo Hooooooo! Tell em Fred!"
@PaisleyPatchouli Жыл бұрын
@MelodeonTunes "Fettlers", now there's a good old word you don't hear often anymore! :) Thanks!
@allenmitchell092 жыл бұрын
We had towels identical to your green spotted one. After lots of washes, every green dot turned into a hole. Looks like it was dunked in a river full of piranha.
@steviiiii2 жыл бұрын
I always loved that towel... showed my the simplicity needed... "...RETIRED WITH DISTINCTION.." (oye)
@andrewleddy12 жыл бұрын
You’re like the Bob Ross of guitar repair. A joy to watch!!
@LosRockson2 жыл бұрын
I would agree in craftsmanship, but my friend Ted is pretty sassy in relation to mr Ross.
@scottreeves12262 жыл бұрын
I had one of these with a wonderful label referring to the Paris Exposition. The guitar was a higher-end model - ivory binding, more elaborate purfling. The ebony bridge was basically like the one you made. Killer sound, but I wish I had had Aquila Nylgut strings in the late 60s to do it justice. Thank you for this great repair video.
@SmallUkeBigWorld2 жыл бұрын
Aquila Nylguts are great. Haven't tried its fluorocarbons though.
@lyndamcardle41232 жыл бұрын
Love the Brazilian Rosewood on the back.
@michaelrice5002 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed hearing that guitar upside-down. It makes me wonder what it would sound like in the southern hemisphere. Also, I completely agree with your commitment to sharing knowledge. Thanks for that, as well as the pleasant time I enjoyed watching your skillful repair.
@robbysguitars82232 жыл бұрын
That was cool playing at the end, my friend. Well done.
@chefbarona30522 жыл бұрын
I bought my 1896 vintage Washburn for $100 at a garage sale(in ABQ 1987,originally a NYC instrument). I reset the neck, replaced the bridge/plate & replaced the tuners. I have strung it for decades w/a lt gauge silk & bronze. Amazing Braz Rosewood b/s & fretboard, engraved pearl fret markers(various shapes & size) &multiple binding/purfling. It's my wife's favorite of all my instruments.
@HayesTech Жыл бұрын
And in the repair world, including home repair, car repair and guitar, of course, that holds true. Ideas are shared and nothing is kept from each other.
@RedRose47112 жыл бұрын
I personally know a few guitar and also violin repairers, and they all share solutions. It's gentlemanly and the right thing to do.
@nalunui67142 жыл бұрын
In addition to luthiers (& would-be luthiers) and people who just like to watch a master at work, there's the very large group of players interested in learning more about guitars and how to take care of their personal instruments. After watching many of Ted's shows, I've gained the knowledge and confidence to successfully do some repair work on my own stringed instruments; Thanks, Ted!
@ClarenceCochran-ne7du2 күн бұрын
That wood, finding wood figured like that today would cost a small fortune. Let alone getting around the CITES with Brazilian Rosewood. When you pulled the camera back to show that figuring, I started drooling LOL.
@peterjames25802 жыл бұрын
I owe much to the Guild of American Luthiers for sharing the craft. Thanks again for another fun repair!
@briansavage9322 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic sounding instrument.
@_NoDrinkTheBleach2 жыл бұрын
Hearing the names Washburn and Lyon in the same sentence reminded me that I had a Washburn Lyon strat knockoff in mid 90s. It's a partscaster now, and the neckplate is the only clue that it was ever a Washburn branded guitar.
@mraycgz2 жыл бұрын
My first guitar was a Washburn Lyon. It was junk. It was also cracked new the neck. I picked up another one a few years ago out of nostalgia. I gave it to a kid that needed a guitar to try and learn the hobby shortly after.
@thefounding58792 жыл бұрын
The book is essential to identifying early Washburn’s. I have a 1905 Style 320. It would have been sold by mail order. It was the second to the largest guitar you could have bought back then. It belonged to my great grandfather. He purchased it used in 1925. I had it restored and upgraded with a 1960 Martin X-brace so it handles steel strings with no problem. The sound of this steward of musical history is amazing!
@ricksrealpitbbq2 жыл бұрын
I love how you add bits of history throughout your repairs. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
@reghudson54442 жыл бұрын
That was actually quite a nice sounding guitar. I wasn’t expecting much with nylon strings, but it had a beautiful voice. Thanks. I enjoy your videos.
@steviiiii2 жыл бұрын
I always loved that towel... showed my the simplicity needed... "...RETIRED WITH DISTINCTION.." (oye)
@RockStarOscarStern6342 жыл бұрын
22:46 These are Aquila 97C Alabastro Nylgut Classical Guitar Strings. The Treble Strings are Plain Nylgut, the Bass Strings have a Silk Nylgut Core wrapped in Metal.
@patrickbishop83612 жыл бұрын
I'm not a guitar repair person but I always enjoy your vids. Your depth of knowledge is truly impressive.
@zaphodbeeblebrox91092 жыл бұрын
to my ears the sound at the end was amazing. sounded absolutley beautiful.
@mellowvids96372 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see the customers reaction on seeing the job finished. Lovely work as always
@mrgeorgejetson2 жыл бұрын
Holy cow, that's a beautiful replacement bridge you built. It's nice to see you allowing your work to stand out and be noticed, rather than be hidden in some admittedly artful way. Very nice. (Not half bad on the upside-down droning, either!)
@promerops2 жыл бұрын
Watching that bridge take form is a thing of wonder. Agree on the sharing and the playing!
@wayneg2962 жыл бұрын
👍👍😎✌️🤟 Thanks for sharing your talent with us.
@markdoyle96422 жыл бұрын
Ted, I don't know how you do it. Every time I begin a repair, you post a video of the exact guitar on my bench, a George Washburn "New Model" made in 1885. This is like Luthier Quantum Entanglement! I am a retired Biophysicist who has been collecting, inheriting, and repairing really nice vintage guitars long "before internet". I only have 23 instruments in my collection. When I had the '65 Martin D-35, the 1969 Les Paul Professional and 1970 L-5 you posted the Gibson Low impedance equipped Acoustic. I luthier to help teach at our local school and place quality, historically innovative, instruments in Kid's hands. My health is bad and I have really enjoyed your expertise while recovering. I will send you an email to show the EXACT guitars I have been "fixin' matching those from your videos, and the proper statistics to show significance. I am not making this up. RESPECT!
@jackbarlow41042 жыл бұрын
I have to work tomorrow as many of you do, of course. Many of these videos get posted on Sundays. It's nice to have the calm tranquility of these videos be the last thing I see before falling asleep. Thank you for this.
@SpenserPaul61610 ай бұрын
Ted, I've been watching your videos for a couple of years and have learned heaps of information that has helped in my guitar building and repairs. But more importantly, your videos have become a place of solace for me. When things seem bleak, the world looks terrible and life is grim, I often return to my favorites of your videos (usually headstock repairs) and everything starts to calm down. Thank you for everything you've done, both intentional and unintentional.
@iiWNMii2 жыл бұрын
These videos keep me on an even keel. Thanks for all the great tips and crash course education in stringed instrument repair.
@buckcorrigan95952 жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos ! I have a virtually identical George Washburn "New Model" with the # 10 stamped on the back splice. I bought it for $5.00 in Milton Freewater Oregon in very sad shape. Gene Loranger, a jazz musician and Luthier in Hagerman Idaho (95 yrs old now..) completly rebuilt it for me. It cost me $350.00 US, and in 1975,..that was a lot of money ! Still have it,.. still plays wonderfully, Silk and Steel all the way. Gruhn guitars estimated 1885 build. No idea what it's worth today....
@thefounding58792 жыл бұрын
Sadly, unless your guitar has a bunch of unique one-off inlays or some kind of unique provenance these old Washburn’s don’t command the money they should be worth. Yet again, a guitar is always worth what someone will pay for it. It is cool that you have kept it and maintained its condition for the last forty-plus years.
@buckcorrigan95952 жыл бұрын
@@thefounding5879 Thanks, I still love the guitar, even if it's not worth a fortune 😊
@thefounding58792 жыл бұрын
I don’t want to be misunderstood. These old Washburn’s have earned their place in history. My Great grand father earned a living for his wife and children during Prohibition with his guitar. I inherited it 20 years after he passed away and spent $3k having it restored. Elizabeth, (the guitar) sounds beautiful and is unique enough that i brought it to Norm’s rare guitars and Lemmo spent some time playing her and when he was done he sat there just staring……..and said, “wow”. Examples of these guitars that have been loved on are greatly undervalued! Your guitar sounds like it is one of these examples!
@howardmaryon Жыл бұрын
I quite often binge-watch your videos, and seeing you switch from a low end modern electric to a treasured very early flat top that is about to self destruct into a pile of matchwood and sawdust, I see how versatile you are. You are very modest, but watching you work so skilfully is very relaxing and absorbing, the time flies by, I can almost smell the freshly planed wood.
@joelfildes55442 жыл бұрын
I find your vids meditative….they normally accompany my Sunday evening hang-over…and help greatly…plus,I can also fix the shit out of my guitars too ! BONUS…cheers from Manchester,England.
@peachmelba10002 жыл бұрын
Boozey Sunday lunch or very long Saturday night out?
@joelfildes55442 жыл бұрын
@@peachmelba1000 all day smasheroo yesterday…I’ve earned this…
@peachmelba10002 жыл бұрын
@@joelfildes5544 Ah, wish I could still do that. Last time was 20 years ago.
@joelfildes55442 жыл бұрын
@@peachmelba1000 that must have been one hell of a piss up !
@peachmelba10002 жыл бұрын
@@joelfildes5544 To be completely accurate, it was NYE Y2K, when my friends and I thought it conceivable the world might end, so yes, it was an epic, debauched night haha
@orionwarren42442 жыл бұрын
Mind boggling that that guitar was someone's 'voice' 140 years ago!
@stevecaputo21192 жыл бұрын
I watch your videos only for enjoyment. I am always blown away with your ability to recreate and the precision with which you do it. I wish I learned instrument repair 40 years ago.
@turnsufficient4971 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic work Ted ! It sounded amazeballs !
@matthewbartolone70369 ай бұрын
wonderful work Ted. Amazed how well you make it sound upside down. Thank You
@kennogawa66382 жыл бұрын
Background history on the old instruments is enlightening.
@christopherwilson87132 жыл бұрын
Loved your commentary on sharing knowledge. I’ve learned so much on the care and maintenance of my 1910 Martin O-18 from your programs. Thank you.
@banacek60chord432 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, as always, nice statement about the sharing ethos. and the current quality of Brazilian rosewood; that's why it was mainly used as a decorative veneer.since the development of plywood Surprisingly good sound from the finished article.
@msPaulaA12 жыл бұрын
Ted as large of a frame you carry it still isn’t large enough to contain the enormity of your heart. Came for the luthier stayed for your kind mind and wit.
@Adipsia12 жыл бұрын
I'm as impressed with your playing the guitar upside-down as I am with your workmanship. ;)
@yobentley72742 жыл бұрын
I worked on an electric Washburn T-Bird a month or so ago. Seemed to be from the 1970's. Great look in powder blue and the finished setup turned out awesome. I and the owner loved it.
@grene19552 жыл бұрын
Count me among the very interested casual viewers. I enjoy doing minor maintenance on my guitars, and I have learned a huge amount from your vids. But the joy mainly comes from watching an expert do things I would never attempt, who willingly shares so much knowledge... so thank you sir!
@MrAbelone2 жыл бұрын
I just like to watch, however I have a 20’s Oahu parlor that has the boom of a SJ200 that needs a neck reset. Maybe I’m working myself up the courage. I’m a touring musician, time is precious but in retrospect I had an uncle who built acoustics and other bluegrass instruments. He’s passed on now but man do I wish I would have hung out at that shop back then. I was young and if it didn’t take a 1/4” jack and had a Floyd Rose it wasn’t cool. So young people head this, learn all you can about your trade, there are very knowledgeable people around willing to share like this wonderful man in his videos. Make the time!
@kenmitchell37842 жыл бұрын
I am one who doesn't play guitar, but enjoy your craftsmanship. I do like watching and listening to those who master the guitar. There are a few other I like watching also like watch repairs. Thanks for your videos and I look forward to seeing more
@stevec-b62142 жыл бұрын
`popping in the pearl` - thats gotta be a great song title! mesmerising video always relaxing to watch.
@militant_daisies21942 ай бұрын
really lovely repair. nicely done sir
@bheineez2 жыл бұрын
After watching your videos I revisited a head that broke off my old acoustic a couple years ago. .did a couple inlay supports and a resurface of the face. Love the artistry and patience you have for your craft... thank you
@stevesteves89152 жыл бұрын
Nice bridge - nice upside down playing!
@markhansen80782 жыл бұрын
I love to see and hear these old guitars. Fun to see how they are made too. Interesting.
@MotoLen512 жыл бұрын
What a great perspective on professional sharing.
@bldallas2 жыл бұрын
Another amazing repair and renewal job, Ted! That bridge is gorgeous. Thanks for sharing.
@davidfowler59712 жыл бұрын
It has a truly lovely tone!
@DTGuitarTech2 жыл бұрын
Top quality as always. So glad to see an old instrument being repaired by you and not the Billy Bodgers out there.
@dudlowdouglas43982 жыл бұрын
Lovely tone!
@400_billion_suns2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work on that bridge! 👍
@wadehampton15342 жыл бұрын
Lovely old Washburn acoustic guitar, I use Aguila Nylgut strings on my solid mahogany ukulele with excellent results. They take a week to stretch in, but once they have stabilized, they will stay in tune remarkably well. They seem to get better and better over the next month or so, and end up with a delightful woody tone. I play my ukulele fingerstyle, like a small classical guitar, and it's a lovely sounding instrument. I used think that ukuleles were just toys that kids played, then I saw a video of Jake Shimabukuro playing Queens Bohemian Rhapsody on a Ukulele and I was gobsmacked, and I had to have one. I bided my time, and Musicians Friend had a Stupid Deal of the Day, ($998 original price) sold mahogany concert Kala ukulele for $189. There was a change in the electronics between 2020 and 2021, so they were blowing out the 2020 models for a fifth of the original price. I bought a Hardshell Case for it, and I fell in love with it! I don't think I would have paid a thousand dollars for a ukulele, but I ended up with a thousand dollar ukulele for a couple of hundred dollars. It sounds so good that it can bring tears to my eyes.
@randybecker73392 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine what it must be like when guitar repair folk get together for a beer or cup of tea, sharing techniques and war stories. I'd love to be a fly on the wall just to soak in the comradely. As one of your aforementioned spectators, I sincerely appreciate your knowledge and willingness to share your admirable skill. Oh, and nice upside down playing too!
@humminglake2 жыл бұрын
the most educational guitar fix videos on youtube. Wonderful attitude and just enough ascerbic joking to keep us humble. Really great job. I have a Haynes Boston guitar same era beautiful Brazilian Rosewood b/s spruce top. Someone did some interesting heel "security" work. I would love to go back and be the voice in their head.... but alas, reality calls me back :-)
@philipershler4202 жыл бұрын
I love the look of the new bridge. May this instrument last another 150 years.
@amylendian37212 жыл бұрын
You mentioned some of your viewers are spectators. I am one. I enjoy your videos, I learn so much about guitars. I could never dream to be as talented as repair As You Are. In addition, listening to your commentary is so soothing and interesting. Thank you
@nerfnerfification2 жыл бұрын
I am one of the observers who does a little bit of work on his guitars but knows well enough what to leave alone and I thank you for sharing your skills - they are truly enjoyable sessions.
@devinfenton23452 жыл бұрын
Really glad you posted this, saw it in the Instagram feed and was secretly hoping it would get taped
@roadshowautosports2 жыл бұрын
Love this video, as all others you produce, specially the pre arguing with your public! 😂😂😂 you really know your public enough to predict questions and answers in a very good humored way! Thank you for your knowledge sharing and kindness!
@bokononsense2 жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos. Very informative and calming at the same time. Like you are the Bob Ross of guitar repair.
@pauldehorn2 жыл бұрын
Awesome left hand playing! I’m impressed 👏👏👏
@matthewridgeway92502 жыл бұрын
Great work young man. Always a decent journeywith your work. Thank you.
@KhadeTheBro2 жыл бұрын
quite insane that this guitar was built closer to the american revolution than it was to present day. beautiful, informative work as always ted!
@JoDoDesigns20112 жыл бұрын
Always just enjoy watching you at your craft, that bridge looks amazing and how you made it, truly a gift.
@limpindug2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the wee history lesson and the top repairs, love it when these old fellas live to fight another day. +1👍🥃Respect to you bud.
@Firefly-dy5zc2 жыл бұрын
That was a beautiful new bridge. In fact the whole job was done extremely well. You should be very proud of your work!
@matspersson51882 жыл бұрын
Excellent work on that bridge 👌🏼
@johndtribuna11942 жыл бұрын
What a surprising tone! Thank you for another great video!
@RockStarOscarStern6342 жыл бұрын
5:12 Nylon Strings, which is a success because these are Ladder Braced. The Ladder Bracing means that these were designed for Gut Strings, & Nylon is a good modern substitute that you can get away w/ on these old Acoustics.
@knedy2 жыл бұрын
The imperfections is what makes it. You could easily draw up a perfect symmetrical bridge on your computer and CNC it. I didn't know there was no connection between the old Washburn and the newer. I really enjoy the 70s Japanese made electrics, made at Matsumoku factory, their higher end models really holds up well.
@Three_Eyed_Willy2 жыл бұрын
I had one of these that was made sometime around 1895. I used silk and steel on it, and it sounded great. But, as an unappreciative teenager, I traded it in on something shinier and louder. Wish I hadn't.
@f1s2hg32 жыл бұрын
Ted your one of the best in your field !
@LeftyPem2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping keep so many lefty guitars going strong🥰
@jipes2 жыл бұрын
Very elegant remplacement bridge ! Love your attitude about sharing Respect ! I'm one of these guy loving to watch you work despite the fact that I'm not interested in fixing guitars or building them but I love to watch hand skilled people doing their craft !
@raynoller62252 жыл бұрын
I really really love your history lessons. You are so good at what you do, thanks for sharing
@Catonius2 жыл бұрын
always informative & entertaining hanging out with Uncle Ted.
@czgunner2 жыл бұрын
I like your perspective on sharing knowledge. In the world of auto repair, many people I work with feel like they possess proprietary knowledge. It's very strange.
@Adam-wl8wn2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, in my professional line of work I repair trains and new information is very top secret and not shared with other depots. It's strange. I repair accordions as a hobby and everyone is very forthcoming with tips and advice.
@jthonn2 жыл бұрын
You made that old guitar look and sound great!
@poorjudjement2 жыл бұрын
Great comments! I love your approach to the work you do on guitars, some of the most informative & enjoyable videos on KZfaq IMO.
@steviiiii2 жыл бұрын
holey macaroni - I just heard your exhortation on Passing on Good Knowledge... I salute you good buddy..!! and I THANK YOU for your service - to what ??? To the CAUSE - oh man... your videos are a part of my daily tutorial; input and MUST SEE TECH for the luthier in training..!! I will pass it on..!! (already am...)
@AlexVonCrank2 жыл бұрын
Even through the iPhone 6 (yes laugh at me) speaker you can hear the rich character of this guitar. Special one, that.
@moparbryan2 жыл бұрын
I really like the way this guitar sounds! Great work as always
@ronwheeler14002 жыл бұрын
Ted I sooo admire you. I was once a player, never that good, but have a passion for guitars and guitar music. You just keep fuelling my interest.
@Elraurko2 жыл бұрын
They didn’t start out as blues guitars but I would argue that the blues guys definitely made them their own. Any guitar is a blues guitar when its all you can get ahold of.
@oldmanwinter632 жыл бұрын
It's not only repair guys who share knowledge - Adam Savage mentioned you and the glue on tape trick a bit ago!
@jeshely2 жыл бұрын
Amazing sound there at the end.
@ronwhited12242 жыл бұрын
Masterful work as always.
@georgescannelli3814 Жыл бұрын
This was very informative!, I got the book you showed. Very helpful. I dated my Washburn to an 1889. Based on the serial number on the neck block, plus none n the center strip. Mine is also a number#1. Thanks so much. My tuners are bone. Yours should be also. Beautiful be was Common.
@CommentaryinSpace2 жыл бұрын
The first guitar I owned was a Washburn HB-32. It's a wonderful guitar and I play it every day, they're fantastic even now!
@NinerFourWhiskey2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work. I learn a lot from your videos. Many years ago, I worked in a music shop, repairing amps and doing setups and minor repairs. I'm very good with electronics and the technical stuff, fret leveling, and such, but not a true wood working craftsman like you.
@bobbeattie96952 жыл бұрын
One of MANY things I like about your channel is that you do a lot of left handed guitar work. There are very few of us out there. My 79 LH 175 is always happy to watch too! Now if I could only get my hands on Wayne Wrights LH D'Angelico Excel. Thanks Ted.
@LaLaLand.Germany2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ted, I am so happy that I now have my own wood router. A no name Chinesium 1/4" with the cheapest bits Amazon provided but I am very happy with it. With really dry material and patience it routs very nice, I even improvised a routing table. The first test was to find out what wood a completely painted Strat clone is made of- turned out well. The bits make a real nice finish, glad with it, couldn´t get it cheaper. Good enough for the girls I go out with but keep Your bit bearings well oiled and in good condition- hard to find the small ones.