Nigelv - you understand the "Inbox the telegram channel" message is a scam, OK? I had one too, but Ted has confirmed it's fake.

@@kitmoore9969 Feel free to report those as spam - I just did so.

@@imagiro1 Good idea, thanks: done.

I have a lawsuit martin copy. Mine is by cortez. Made in japan. It has a really neat 3 piece rosewood back with abalone inlays.

@@imagiro1 me too just to be safe.

That's a nice part of ibanez history that I'd like to hear in more detail!

My first proper electric was an RG440. Loved it.

@@ayeapprove Well, it was the early 90's and Ibanez/Hoshino was in S.E. Pa. and we were in Coopersburg, Pa. Jim ( last name long forgotten) contacted us to discuss the joint building. we had just got a CNC and at the time, quite busy with our own models. We embarked on the venture with me as Prod. Eng. and Custom shop. I remember Satriani and the damn purple on quilt..and he wanted the pots located differently, LOL. I left not too long after that for other adventures, but I still have in my shop now the blueprints for the "Ghost Rider" that I was making the templates for at the time. I do not know if that ever went into production. PBC was Pearse ( John Pearse, also local) Dave Bunker AKA The whacky professor and my best mentor. Has the patent on headless, before you know who, the "touch guitar" , the "tension free neck" and many others. Google him. He passed a few yrs ago back home in Wa. state, and the C was Paul Chernay of Chernay Printing , he was one of the only printers that could print musical notation then. Hand drawn by Japanese artists, for Mel Bay books and similar. He was the financial backer. I felt the waves of ship sinking early on, we had too much stale inventory, too little advert and sales $, we got too big too fast and Paul C was gonna pull the plug. He did not long after I left. Bunker went back to Wa. I don't know what John did other than strings and such. I went on to building Dano copies in my shop before moving to the Great Smokies and promptly losing my shop in a fire. Now I am in in Ky. and just last year cloned a Ken Smith Bass for a fellow with a sad story that works for the big music store place in Indiana ;) . if you need more to know, I might recall some, but it has been a long time, and I still get a bit emotional about those years.

@@Spheramid Thanks for sharing that info. I'm just a casual observer and Ibanez fan from '77, due to Paul Stanley and of course, the Iceman. I always enjoy reading history, backstory and recollections from people that worked for or with Ibanez in the U.S. :) Take care friend!

I used to work at a guitar store in Nazareth. I remember Francis coming in all the time and telling me about the tension free necks. I finally came across one that I had to set up and I had no clue how to adjust the thing! Luckily Francis happened to stop in a day or two later and schooled me on the finer points of the design. Very interesting concept, but probably a little too far from the norm for your average guitar player to accept it. Old habits die hard, especially in guitars

Honestly, I think he should edit together several of his "after" playing clips and the next time he's sick, or just swamped to get a video out, post it and say "sorry, new 'real' video next week." I think we'd watch just to support.

Agree.

Better than me.

Sounds like he's listened to Django Reinhardt in the intro

I bet Ted has a nice collection of old guitars to make a video of him playing them all!

You may be an exceptional case... but I think it's rare a youtube watcher will ever rise to level of luthiery quality building. Good job on your diligence, I admire it

I built two electric mandolins from watching KZfaqr folks. And a lot of StewMac supplies. The first one I recently sold for 16 hundred bucks.

I hope you at least bought a couple tee-shirts from Ted to show support for your free education

It's definitely been around the block a time or two. It plays amazing and sounds great. I'm planning on getting 50 plus more years out of it :)

But many of the designs just after the cease and desist were very Les Paul and 330/335 like - only the headstock changed The Ibanez Artist AS2000 (ggogle ) is just a very good guitar and the looks - In the late 70's early 80's Ibanez signed a number of famous guitarists as ambassadors.

@@mbontekoe3358 Yes, the point of contention at that time was the open book headstock. It is only more recently Gibson has been using its position in the market to bully other makers into abandoning certain body shapes. Many people have this idea a lawsuit was formally filed and a case was heard. Not the case.

Thank you.... so much bs online regarding this subject.

@@MuscleDad420 yeah, no one cares about the actual litigation. If I say an ibanez "lawsuit-era" SG... people know(or have a good idea of) the make, model, and time frame of the guitar. Enough said.

@@TimTrOn3000 Yes, that is fair and I agree that for ease of communication “lawsuit guitar” is a sensible choice, but there are folks out there that legit believe law representatives from Gibson and Hoshino-Gakki were present in a court room and a legal judgement was made. Not the case.

Maybe you would. Anyone who played a real J200 .. sheesh 🤕

Instead we are marveling at how much the Japanese openly ripped Gibson off.

@@richsackett3423 ...and these days it's the Chinese openly ripping off anybody and everybody's patents.

@@Expedient_Mensch True. Bad part is the Chinese are making crap and not awesome things like the Japanese did then. My “good Les Paul” is a 77 Yamaha SL-380.

@@richsackett3423 Yes true, the Japanese motto was like "make it better, the best we can", the Chinese motto is "make it look like the real thing, but for as cheap as possible" and that is why China will never rule the world.

been living in US for decades ,still can't except that stupid inches over metric system

Next, "solder" instead of "sodder" and "ee - BAN - yeth " instead of "EYE - burr - nez" :))

Having the same guitar I replaced mine with a conventional saddle - and it is an improvement

i guess most guitars are a beater for a prince 🤣 sorry your highness 🤣🤣🤣🤣

LOL! "Franpton" - really? :) that's just funny! 😂😂

@@SEVNTIGERS yeah right? When I fixed it got it working for the owner, I told him that Franpton comes alive. He didn't get it.

@@TaralgaBushAdventure - LOL!!

I have read another account that said they actually acquired the Spanish guitar company. And that Gibson's claims against Ibanez were settled out of court.

@@TaralgaBushAdventure Maybe he didn't get it, but baby, I love your way. tee hee

I'm connected to any of these, i am a retired Roof Truss Draftsman, I would love to talk to you, but how?

Funnily, Ibanez had a budget line called Cimar... Their line included very durable and stable Rickenbacker bass and guitar copies.

@@seanpop2886 yea I've seen em, they've actually gotten pretty expensive too.

If the scale was the same and HB Pickups in the same position then any guitar will sound like a Les Paul, got nothing to do with Bolt on Necks or body shape....It's all about the PU's and where they are! (It's called engineering)

I had a Roadstar II bass for my first one. It was cool.

First I've heard of any suit brought by Guild. Do you have any details or sources you can share?

That is my understanding too. I have a 1975 Ibanez Concord (same J200 type but with mahogany back and sides) which is set up like that. Fortunately mine is in a lot better shape than the maple one here.

Hey Brian, that was a VERY cool day we had touring Hoshino USA HQ. Thanks for letting me tag along.

Wrong other companies such as Yamaki ( translated as "happy trees" ) who made much closer clones were also threatened and in this case also by Fender, to make their day worse Yamaki were also sued by Yamaha over the similarity of their logo. Yamaki changed their name to Daion and decided to make unconventional acoustics. I own a Yamaki Performer clone of a 57 black Les Paul custom from 77 - they even got the long tenon neck joint correct. The logo is in the correct place it only needs a logo transplant.

Nah, it was the guy playing it...)) Did sound better than I thought it would, though.

I think Hank Marvin used an Antoria on some of the early Shadows records.

I have an open book lawsuit era leftie Antoria Les Paul Custom I bought in 1996 for £90. It's a great guitar and plays super nice but it's a heavy one. Although I don't play it as much as I used to I won't part with it as it was my first ever electric guitar. Well worth getting one if they come up at the right money.

i was surprised some gibsons are laminate

I have this guitar and it is quite amazingly well done because the flame maple veneer on the out side of the plywood back actually matches with the flame maple veneer on the inner side - so it is quite easy to mistake it for solid