Doping Made Me A Man - Incredible Story of Andreas Krieger

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Trans World Sport feature on Andreas Krieger, a former East German shot putter. Having been forced to take massive doses of steroids that gave him masculine features and heightened confusion about his gender identity, Andreas ultimately decided to transition.
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@MrSam2497 Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't call the story incredible, but sad and horrible

@meagainandagain5756 Ай бұрын

Incredibly sad and horrible.

@linusfotograf 4 жыл бұрын

This would make a great movie. Love story, political drama and sports.

@SnakeButtz 4 жыл бұрын

facts!!!!!!

@linusfotograf Жыл бұрын

@@UCLAfilm01 My movie wouldn’t be gory, it would be human. You think I like what she/he went through?

@DeeDeex007o Ай бұрын

RIGHT! THIS NEEDS TO BE A MOVIE!!! What a great message!

@idontsignin 9 жыл бұрын

its actually heartbreaking what they went through. this is how i dont understand why athletes knowingly take steroids.

@willbendingsteel6258 8 жыл бұрын

Ye? I can not understand how someone can drink alcohol and get dumber and dumber every time.

@Sargebri 7 жыл бұрын

In a lot of cases many of them didn't know what they were taking. Many of them were given injections and told they were B-12 shots.

@MsNooneinparticular 5 жыл бұрын

Some people will do anything to be the best in the world. You can warn of the risks but denial is a helluva drug. Nobody thinks the worst will happen to them.

@gamig189 4 жыл бұрын

They were lied to, it says in the interview

@commissaryarrick9670 4 жыл бұрын

They were East German they had no choice . Either take the steroids or be declared and enemy of the state and thrown in prison

@aldo1814 Ай бұрын

He even said that the choice was forced on him...or taken away, rather. This is such a heartbreaking story.

@viniciussurkamp6633 2 жыл бұрын

"Can you imagine when this race is won? Turn our golden the faces into the sun Praising our leaders, we're getting in tune The music's played by the, the madman"

@Katrin00000 7 жыл бұрын

At around 2:20 the translation of Andreas Krüger is wrong (ok, that he said that he toke the pills because he trusted the trainers and he was never informed about where the pills where for - he was told of "vitamins", that's right. But everything else is just wrong.) ... I have not seen the film right to the end right know. Perhaps there are further wrong translations later, too.

@Katrin00000 7 жыл бұрын

Krüger = Krieger. Now I have seen the film to the end. Althrough I could not not understand all german words anymore, I think that the rest of the translations were - more or less - right. Althrough mostly, they were told in a more sensational, more 'loud' tone, than Andreas is speaking himselfs.

@jones2277 Жыл бұрын

What is the correct translation?

@TheBob1901 8 жыл бұрын

There's a bigger physical difference between Heidi the attractive, feminine girl in that picture (showing her standing next to another woman) and Heidi at the 1986 European Championships, than there is between doped-up masculine Heidi and the man Andreas she then became.

@migayla3641 3 жыл бұрын

He*

@9chilidog Жыл бұрын

@@migayla3641*she. Putting wheels on a house doesn’t make it a car, you can’t force people to live in your delusions.

@its_rick_james_bich2575 Жыл бұрын

@@migayla3641*She

@Sean-qf5rn 8 ай бұрын

@ObviouslyNotABlackadder 4 ай бұрын

It is bizarre indeed.

@asturiasceltic3183 7 күн бұрын

Heidi literally looks like my brother-in-law when he was competing. And he too is German descended.

@elizabethbachicha 4 жыл бұрын

She was turned onto elite sports like many young girls are turned onto turning tricks. 1. Lie about drugging her. 2. Keep her doped up to perform through the pain and abuse. 3. Keep her chasing the money until she is worn-out/burned out.

@stevenmckinnon1258 4 жыл бұрын

Yes accurate and deplorable their motives; money and recognition

@BrayoFitnessTrainer 3 жыл бұрын

she is no victim. She knew exactly what she was getting herself into. We all have a choice!

@petesmart1983 2 жыл бұрын

Sadly that was the communist way , and they were still doing it Russia until recent, until a couple of athletes spoke out

@rottengrapes8605 2 жыл бұрын

*he

@pegleg2959 Жыл бұрын

@@BrayoFitnessTrainer its very obvious that she didn't know what was going on

@dahee1 Жыл бұрын

It's great that it worked out for them. It's awful what was done to them.

@podmizje 5 жыл бұрын

he looks like jeff seid

@voices_vary 6 ай бұрын

Andreas deserves to be happy and it was horrific what his coaches did to him. Oddly enough--with all his masculinization--I still see small remnants of the woman in him.

@kinseybruno5920 Ай бұрын

It’s really tragic she turned herself into a man in the end. Kinda feels like a bad ending.

@lockdown172 6 жыл бұрын

What happened to this brilliant show. Used to be on really early in the morning ...

@stevenmckinnon1258 4 жыл бұрын

Caspar yes! Totally loved this show. I am going to go search for more episodes now. Funny how the thing about journalism shows like this that hasn’t changed is that they still like to do a lot of sensationalizing through editing to make people’s heart strings pulled. Not that this is not a generally accurate story but they definitely could have picked several other Athletes to talk about doping with that also had similar focal points.

@michaelmcginley7930 4 жыл бұрын

Sad story hope he finds happyness

@notagarbage6728 2 жыл бұрын

she

@botten4187 Жыл бұрын

@@notagarbage6728 shut up...

@karlovisttimes8271 Жыл бұрын

@@notagarbage6728he

@alexojideagu 9 жыл бұрын

Ironic that it's TRANS world sport covering this story. Get it?

@611gay5 5 жыл бұрын

Trans Atlantic?

@linusfotograf 4 жыл бұрын

alex ojideagu I honestly thought it was a pro-trans sport channel until I read your comment.

@lotee7131 4 жыл бұрын

Linus Wärn So what if it was?

@linusfotograf 4 жыл бұрын

lotee Then it would’ve been one. I don’t care

@navigatingel6104 4 жыл бұрын

@@linusfotograf I think it is...

@katybee3891 2 жыл бұрын

He already looked like a cute guy at the Olympics

@ginag8723 Жыл бұрын

A heartbreaking story and this us what you took from it?

@Sophya7 5 ай бұрын

Well yeah... bc he was on heavy dose of steroids. Didn't you understand the video?

@Locutus Ай бұрын

I wouldn't say cute, but he definitely had male and female characteristics, very strong male characteristics.

@asturiasceltic3183 7 күн бұрын

He literally looks like my brother-in-law who is German descended. He looks like him during his competing years.

@lucassebastianjardelaranci5125 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely brutally horrible what they did to

@grahamstrouse1165 2 жыл бұрын

Most trans-men, you can tell. With Andreas, I’d never guess.

@Sean-qf5rn 8 ай бұрын

No many many transgender men look like Andreas. It's called you only "see" the ones that don't, the ones that do walk right by you and you would never know. It's mainly due to how long somone is on hrt. After 5 6 7 years.. basicly indistinguishable. But also how young they are when they start is also a factor however nowadays trans kids are able to get treatment earlier because we now have awareness of this medical condition and it is slowly becoming less taboo. So trans people passing flawlessly will become the norm in the decades to come.

@SwagHyde 5 ай бұрын

the only ones you can tell and pick on are early in their transition most trans guys are transparent and look like any other dude on the streets

@sueblankenship9441 Ай бұрын

His hands are a bit small, but other than that, you can't tell.

@leooo6311 Ай бұрын

you actually can't tell with most trans men, you just notice the ones that don't pass.

@granddad9825 3 жыл бұрын

Guys pls change the title of your channel it's hella confusing sometimes

@jh76103 11 ай бұрын

Around 4:01 the narrator says "By 1991 her career was over." The Berlin wall came down in November 1989 and Germany reunited in October 1990. The very least they could have done for her was tell her the truth, stop the pills and pump her full of estrogen. It might have restored her body's ability to produce the right balance of hormones that a woman needs.

@teresahiggs4896 2 ай бұрын

From everything I’ve seen, the results of the steroids is permanent.

@shortwidgets 2 ай бұрын

That's what they want to do to our kids in the name of compassion. Let this be a warning to all the parents out there contemplating on putting their kids on hormones.

@purselmer5931 3 ай бұрын

This is criminal.

@cristinagheorghe4554 Күн бұрын

Heartbreaking... I'm glad now they test hormone levels and dopping in sport people, clearly her abilities were enhanced and she was way above women's category in which she was competing at the time when she was in a forced transition. Hope he found peace now and is content with his life!

@captainomega3611 Жыл бұрын

I don't understand how professional bodybuilders can take steroids. She should sue her coach.

@Locutus Ай бұрын

He should, not she.... The coaches and people involved are probably in their 70s and 80s, or dead. It's too late to take legal action, and generally you don't have decades to sue, usually it's only a handful of years.

@611gay5 5 жыл бұрын

Commies

@eddieash6189 4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@screamingdean5 3 жыл бұрын

4:03 She looks like a guy right here.

@119Agent 3 жыл бұрын

That is what steroids does to you.

@rottengrapes8605 2 жыл бұрын

i guess its lucky that he turned out to be transgender then lol

@iambored2880 Жыл бұрын

@@rottengrapes8605but he has damages from it due to physical exhaust

@DELTA912420 Ай бұрын

And here we are in 2024 with the same thing happening but on a more political brain melting pace.

@timothynelson5684 Ай бұрын

This should scare those who support such surgeries for youths.

@martinwawrzynczak5449 2 жыл бұрын

That seriously looks like Mike Isreatel

@tristanwegner 2 ай бұрын

LOL. The "footage from Eastern Germany" is footage from modern Germany, often the western part, with a grain and defect filter applied. Cannot take anything after that serious.

@NicoYoshimitsu 9 жыл бұрын

Warum gibt es über ihn/sie keine Doku auf deutsch? Ich meine uns geht das wohl am meisten an!

@catotheverymuchyounger Ай бұрын

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@kirstinetermansen3426 6 жыл бұрын

I'm with you as we humans

@Super-by8nb 4 жыл бұрын

south park ironi here...so tragic...hope they do well

@119Agent 2 жыл бұрын

How is it ironic?

@RandyDrayton 8 жыл бұрын

If someone told me this 'guy' was a woman I would never believe them. 'He' has a deeper voice than the translator lol. 'He's' even balding like a dude.

@Fcutdlady 5 жыл бұрын

That's from being pumped with steroids. Women were given the male hormone testosterone to. Make them stronger

@BOT-qg4lq 5 жыл бұрын

stop reading Wikipedia and start thinking a bit

@mikeoxmaul1788 4 жыл бұрын

I think it's an actor

@wvynus2261 3 жыл бұрын

'Cause he's been taking turinabol and male hormonal pills since he was very young, so it was easier for his body to change

@cjn01 2 жыл бұрын

Testosterone deepens the voice and causes hair loss.

@georgeplagianos6487 2 жыл бұрын

What a story what's one individual being subjected to doping. E.G govt said it's supplements. They didn't have a clue with their bodies turning more male like?Maybe Andreas the others from East Germany were too young to realize this since they were in there twenties. Would be an interesting movie I wonder if this correlates with what's happening with trans male transgender athletes transitioning to female. Giving them the confidence to participate in women's sports like swimming. I don't feel that the women who remain women are giving a fair shake when men were having completely transitioned are allowed with their high testosterone and muscular development to participate in women's sports purchase doesn't sound fair.. even college wrestlers have white categories too not give a weight most likely strength advantage over the smaller wrestlers. Does that make sense? Also it's like the special Olympics back 20 years ago weren't disabled athletes will participating in various sports. And back in Spain the coach trained non-disable athletes and pass them off to the Olympic committee that they were disabled. Watching them play basketball it never think they were disabled making all those great shots.. that's a disadvantage for the disabled. That was a big scandal the coach should have been hung upside down like Mussolini

@BrendonSchaferCT Жыл бұрын

Sad story indeed.

@Jojo4-l3d Ай бұрын

There was sn article about Flo Jo , she expressed gratitude to Ben Johnsons team that's before The The scandal

@toneypeel3482 2 ай бұрын

Sad ,he can’t have children now and missed out on a beautiful family life.

@mrfischkopf4946 Ай бұрын

He is married and has a Child. It was revealed in a newer film, that is entirely in german tho. It can be found on the german anti doping agencies website.

@mcode2176 9 жыл бұрын

She didnt have to get a sex change operation, she would have gone back to "normal" with time, and supplementing with estrogen pills would have made the feminisation faster. However if she is happy living as Andreas, there is nothing wrong with that.

@clawcross 8 жыл бұрын

People who tried to go back to women had series of miscarriages and stillborns, so maybe what he chose to do was right.

@post_ian94 8 жыл бұрын

He actually said he felt like a man even before the doping, but wanted to go through the transition by himself, not in that way.

@BeanBossing 3 жыл бұрын

@@post_ian94 That's the only issue i have with this, sadly thanks to this government wanting to up their chances in winning, transphobes have a source to cling to

@rottengrapes8605 2 жыл бұрын

hes actually a ftm transgender, so it all worked out for him in the end

@Sean-qf5rn 8 ай бұрын

I mean he's happy now.

@oluhamilton2121 4 жыл бұрын

U ain't seen NUTHIN' yet.

@reallifehack4790 2 жыл бұрын

What do you expect of Communists???

@Gabeitch93 Ай бұрын

And today they're trying to normalise this dreadfulness

@dylanl9532 6 жыл бұрын

So he kept taking male hormone even after all that?

@larciabella 4 жыл бұрын

well, yes cuz one can't just stop cold turkey .It's a gradual process.

@rottengrapes8605 2 жыл бұрын

the experience made him realize he was a trans man, so he started legit transitioning after the doping

@jonjones7137 Жыл бұрын

@@rottengrapes8605she was mentally ill

@etuboldon 6 жыл бұрын

his walk is kind of feminine

@bradr539 5 жыл бұрын

Can't get around having wide hips of a female..

@ulfurkarlsson5885 4 жыл бұрын

He looks pretty Masculine to me

@TheRetroWoman80 4 жыл бұрын

Yep, it is

@keyboarddancers7751 3 жыл бұрын

@@bradr539 Indeed. It is totally impossible to alter the body's pelvic structure.

@trannynanny5440 3 жыл бұрын

Her**

@asturiasceltic3183 7 күн бұрын

1:09 Aaaaah...LOL

@shofayanawardah 3 жыл бұрын

I veery confuse😕

@ishan94shukla 6 жыл бұрын

Holy shhhhiiiiit

@jonjones7137 Жыл бұрын

😂

@MinistryofPeace Ай бұрын

There is no way you didn't figure out you were given steroids. GMAB

@Crepperman27 9 жыл бұрын

Wow

@kalikaputra 3 ай бұрын

No way you get all that success and wins without you thinking that all those ""supplements "" they were giving you weren't part of it.

@herlandercarvalho Ай бұрын

There's a key factor that is being misunderstood here, judging by some of the comments... Andreas had already felt gender dysphoria, prior to unknowingly being given steroids. The fact that he is trans is not the result of steroid use, although that ultimately contributed to develop masculine traits.

@digital.frenchy Ай бұрын

exactly

@31-December 5 ай бұрын

Why is it that no-one ever want to be accountable. No one knows what was given to them🤷🏽‍♂️

@Phen0mable 4 ай бұрын

Look how world change today 😂😂

@mikenealon4042 3 жыл бұрын

incredible

@igloozoo3771 Жыл бұрын

I didn't know what the pills were. LOL. I think most Transmen can testify how quickly their body changes on Testosterone.

@SawyerKnight Ай бұрын

The Patriarchy. Always. Wins.

@kirstinetermansen3426 6 жыл бұрын

Yoga is effective to, all sort harm

@hannahwootton6491 Ай бұрын

If someone said take these pills I wouldn't take them

@cnwil4594 4 ай бұрын

So sad.

@guynakash 5 жыл бұрын

Oral Turinabol is the same shit that Jon Jones is taking, btw.

@petesmart1983 2 жыл бұрын

But he's a man so it works completely different

@Milburt Жыл бұрын

And Cris Cyborg

@EmantsrifEmantsrif 3 ай бұрын

Wedding ring 5: 15?????

@user-rj5ze8iq3d 7 күн бұрын

Yes, he is married

@jimferry6539 2 ай бұрын

She looks like Theo Von from the joe Rogan podcasts

@robkitchen5344 Жыл бұрын

1st found out.....1st ltime looked into a mirror?? The eye test should have been tip off that they weren't like any other

@kayecole-beckford6851 9 жыл бұрын

well damm....wow...smh

@braudhadoch3432 Ай бұрын

So much for the Social Construction Theory of Gender

@CWBush73 8 жыл бұрын

was für eine Schönheit

@lorigetz4489 3 жыл бұрын

Fascinating

@treyjetson5320 Ай бұрын

Everyone wants to feel special

@cesarmirandaabreu6091 7 жыл бұрын

she looked like a total dude since the beginning, steroids might have played a role but...

@demonsorrow536 6 жыл бұрын

moronero thats what i was thinking.

@demonsorrow536 6 жыл бұрын

Looks like a char from the breakfast club before the steriods lol

@prisoneroftech2237 6 жыл бұрын

moronero That's because she was being pumped since at least 16. Heavy dosages of Turinabol. Tbol has heavy anabolic rating...for a woman that's just asking for trouble.

@zoso1980 6 жыл бұрын

Moronero - @ 2:25. I wouldnt' say so. The vast majority of pictures and footage are either mid-doping or after. @ 2:25 only really gives you an insight of before.

@turtleislandlac1490 5 жыл бұрын

She looked like a girl before the doping.

@kimcavagna2082 2 жыл бұрын

Bull! She knew what was going on in her body

@Sean-qf5rn 8 ай бұрын

He. And obviously it all worked out in the end. He said he's happy and is married

@trinkabuszczuk6138 Жыл бұрын

On a positive note: happy ending 🥰

@bjornnilsson7982 Жыл бұрын

The system failed before, and again but with only the children getting responsibility again... Do the testoron test... Women 500 000

@paulsalvaterra 3 жыл бұрын

She????

@firecracker187 Ай бұрын

Children

@samirriani 6 жыл бұрын

stasi police , the system that he she trusted, and get her price...-)

@pickititllneverheal9016 25 күн бұрын

🤢

@pedropelaez 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t believe any of these athletes when they say they didn’t know they were taking steroids.

@18pluskiddo 3 жыл бұрын

Why? It's true. Especially when so much money is on the line, it makes much more sense to not even tell the athlete what they're taking, or to lie to them by saying they're taking B-12 shots.

@petesmart1983 2 жыл бұрын

Because it's communism they wouldn't be allowed to question what they were taking

@shane-irish 6 жыл бұрын

Wish i could turn into a women

@rses916 2 жыл бұрын

Try therapy first.

@Milburt Жыл бұрын

Try learning how to spell woman first.

@migayla3641 3 жыл бұрын

Why do they only use female pronouns? He is a man.

@nissan_6828 3 жыл бұрын

only time i approve of being transgender

@BeanBossing 3 жыл бұрын

Why only then?

@seanlucia6625 2 жыл бұрын

Noone cares what you approve of. You dont matter.

@jones2277 Жыл бұрын

Where are the parents?

@kirstinetermansen3426 6 жыл бұрын

War drugs the cocaine speed l s d the gases, a b c Sleep drugs Speed drugs Creative drugs

@barbalalla2003 4 күн бұрын

A horrible part of sports history.

@nbkhmb5 6 ай бұрын

They cheated and now they’re crying victim?! Everyone knew, including the cheating athletes themselves. Now they’re whining and playing victim

@steveavecillas1114 5 ай бұрын

Alot of the athletes were in there teens and they thought there were taking vitamins

@violetlunna Ай бұрын

She was 16 when she went through this, what the f are you talking about

@nickievandermerwe1582 3 ай бұрын

Why the east german women did not shave their underarms are mind boggling

@asturiasceltic3183 7 күн бұрын

A German girl in high school told me that the only women who shave underarms in Germany are prostitutes.

@yuliazni3389 2 ай бұрын

She look beautiful at 14

@user-rs1iq3kt6l 2 ай бұрын

🤨

@j.c.n9718 3 жыл бұрын

No one is this naive.

@petesmart1983 2 жыл бұрын

Because it's under communism you are not allowed to question things

@glennsriyousefbaun-cueto9287 3 жыл бұрын

That's why if you people are gonna keep scrutinizing trans-female athletes, then you better scrutinize the cis-gender females abusing testosterone even more