I imagine they she will reach out within a year or two of turning 18. I have a feeling she might resent her adoptive parents a bit. Love them nonetheless. But she missed out on her siblings childhoods in large part. That’s unfair.

@@BMarie774they had drug addiction parents showing them no love or support. They did what was best for her daughter. Not an easy decision either! I think everyone needs to remember their childhood was traumatic and they only wanted better for Carly. If Carly can’t see that as a grown adult, then that’s sad. Carly will be fine with them once she’s 18. The adoptive parents will be regretting their actions I think.

She will go to her bio parents because of the controlling adoptive parents. She also has bio sisters that she will want to be involved with and want to see grow-up. I don’t know my bio dad, but I was able to meet my bio father’s family when I turned 17. I was angry I was kept from them. They will have to deal with that wrath when it comes around. It’s all recorded how much Cait and Tyler want to be involved with Carly, the adoptive parents will end up regretting the hostility they created.

I can only imagine how Carly feels. I’m sure there are things behind the scenes that we don’t see. But if Carly has watched the show when they made the decision to place her for adoption, then she knows her parents loved her more than themselves. They both grew up through extremely difficult circumstances. I remember watching Catelynn when she was pregnant. You could feel her pain when they were trying to make the decision. It was heartbreaking. And the fact that Catelynn and Tyler are married with Carly’s three sisters, I’m sure that she will reach out when she is 18.

Who had a drug problem? ​@@Lana_1313

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Thank you , cellphone error. Just fix it 😅

As a fellow adoptee myself, I hope she makes this choice.

@@summerhill93What? I’m an adoptee as well yet this seems like an asinine comment. Carly will likely continue to stay with the mom and dad who’ve raised her for her entire life! And I as an adoptee, would completely support that choice over going to those who simply contributed to her DNA!

Not really. If the adopters were so loving they would do what is best for Carly not themselves. Rely adoption should be just for real orphans.

@summerhill93 They are doing whats best for their daughter, they’re protecting her from Carolyn and Tyler’s poor decision to be on a literal p*rn website.

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@@user-st9pd6ux5iyeah…I m not sure why they chose to do that….was it money? They had to know this would affect their relationship with Carly s parents who are in full control

It’s in writing, but it’s nothing that can be legally enforce. so with any open adoption, you can promise things to the birth parents like visits letters pictures annually simi annually, whatever but you can change your mind about that whenever you want to so three, four five years down the line as the legal parents You change your mind and you never have to speak to those people again until after your child turns 18 if you so please there’s nothing in the law that says you have to allow visits or communication bio parents have zero rights.

I’m pretty sure it wasn’t agreed upon for Catelyn and Tyler to be on a p*rn website either.

It’s at the birth parents will. They can decide not to do visits if they think it’s for the best

Exactly. And adolescence is when we form our adult identities. She should be with her kin.

@@summerhill93I think she going want to be with her real parents and siblings no matter what adoptive children always want to know where they came from and secondly. She’ll have alot of questions

A lot of adoptive parents don’t care about that they want to be the only parents

I totally agree, I was attacked in comments when I said that in a Grace report video.

True. But it could be Carly’s choice and B and T could be taking the heat for her so she doesn’t have to tell her bio parents she said no. I’m sure we will find out once she is an adult and can speak out if she wants to.

@@PrincessJayJay17 they’ve actually given reasons on why they can’t see here. They don’t want any pictures shown on the show or of her on social media and they don’t want the visit or the child talked about on the show at all. So basically they adopted the child from a tv show and they don’t want said child talked about on that tv show

Is it mentally and emotionally safe when your bio parents are attacking the parents who raised u online??

It almost always is. Birthmother grief and pain - and even affected grandparent, and aunt/uncle pain, is lifelong as far as I have seen thus far.

They couldn't keep Carly. They lived with parents who were and are addicts. I can understand why Brandon and Teresa feel the way they do being a conservative Christian myself, but I don't agree with how they choose to go about things I think Catlynn and Tyler deserve to see Carly. Nova should see her sister.

Big time

I thought about that too. Maybe Carly doesn’t want the visit

@@Genna-qp2ey I’d imagine she gets picked on at school if she’s not homeschooled. 14 is a hard age how could you hide 16 and pregnant from that generation? Its everywhere

I agree if I was the child I would be upset they gave me away , became famous and I would question if they already had the MTV contract then why would they give me up anyway for money ??? then go on to have 3 more kids and still on tv ??? I would be oissed !

@@august21xp 16 & pregnant was just a tv show of different girls if you rewatch her episode you can definitely tell why they gave her up now here comes teen mom and now they have money and other kids of course they would have wished it was different but it’s not

@@khloeconlin you can tell they didn’t watch the OG show from the beginning.

According to Tyler, it wasn't her choice.

And it was necessary. They were both around terrible addict parents who were abusive. It wouldn't have been a good situation for a baby to be in.

Well at 15 she’s in the world one way or another maybe hearing her bios are on fans only might not appeal to her hard to imagine that her adoptive parents didn’t ask her if she wants to go or if she didn’t say to them I’m going to go go see them

Ok but they want their own lives and that could confuse her at that age. You have to think she has her own life too.

But it was agreed at birth that they would get visits and they should have held up to that

@@kayladavis7140In an open adoption the adoptive parents can change their mind at any time and they would be well within their rights.

​@2jcward If god willing, you will be an adult longer than you will be a child, The adopted parents is taking a risk Of losing her once she turns eighteen, Because of them, keeping her away from her birth parents

But didn't they agree on those terms the day of the adoption we all watched it. And sending her photos. I mean I just don't know why they didn't keep their house for the deal. She was young and you could tell she didn't want to give up her baby.

Lies, she has never been shown on tv, she has never been "filmed"

Can you imagine how embarrassed she must be by some of this stuff ? Carly is likely over there trying to live a normal life. Whereas her younger bio siblings are growing up thinking that their life is NORMAL. Poor kids.

@@justmythoughts2962what’s not normal about it

She's 15 now, but this isn't an issue that just came up. They have played them multiple times and didn't have the visit. It maybe the case, now ? Maybe not. We don't know. But I truly believe that when she is older she will come around and there will be a better and closer relationship. I pray for the children sake that happens. And if she watches from the beginning of it all she would know how devastating a choice it was and they really did what was the absolute best for her at the time.

They been stopped letting them see, visit or talk to her. They don’t like that they’re a public family they don’t want their daughter talked about or shown on tv.

@@yup_im_tiff that's understandable, neither would I. they didn't sign up for all this, im sure they could never expect a doc about 16 & pregnant would become an eternal tv franchise

They most likely mean everything to Carly too.

I agree. If you look at old episodes it seems like they thought they’d be able to see and talk to her often and of course the adoption agent didn’t correct them

@@yup_im_tiff Deception - outright and by omission - by adoption agents should also be illegal and prosecuted. The emotional cost for relinquishing mothers and natural families is too great for this not to be discussed. But adoption is big business, and in adoption, profit and possession come before people.

​@@summerhill93 exactly

Amen. She def will and I can see Brandon and Theresa saying bad stuff about them behind their backs because of how petty they’ve been in not honoring the vow they made after adoption. Shame on them both!

Yeah plus everything has been documented on tv. She's definitely watching or going to watch everything and be upset that she never got to spend time with her bio family.

Me also. With their fake insincere smiles. They are constantly blackmailing them with the visits. First it was no filming, than it was no posting and now they can't even talk about their feelings on social media without being bashed. Everything always has to be on their terms. Never letting them spend alone, even at the wedding they were supervising constantly, not even letting them have a moment alone.

Exactly. Every human child wants to be with their biological family if at all possible. It is needed for proper development. Imo the adopters are extremely selfish and should have returned Carly when it became obvious T&C were viable parents. Maybe this situation can serve to help reform unfair adoption laws.

@summerhill93 I agree. But I don't know about the giving her back part. Because I don't think that would be healthy for Carly either, because she did get used to B&T being her parents. And she was raised by them. That could confuse her. And would take away stabiluty. But they do need to spend more than just 1 day a year together. And from what I understand, most of the time, they didn't even get that and wouldn't see her for a couple of years. They could celebrate holidays together or birthdays. With the adoption, they clearly said once a year visit and pictures. Carly should be able to bond with her sisters also. I think it would be harder to bond if they just see each other once in a couple of years. I think B&T are selfish. Carly may be afraid to bring it up, because she doesn't want to hurt her adoptive parents feelings, but I'm sure that she would like to spend more time with her family. Maybe they could change the law that they may have more time to change their mind. Especially with minors. And it should be prohibited to let minors sign without an independant lawyer present, who represent the birth parents rights. And if adoptive parents, don't do what was agreed upon, that a lawyer could force them to hold their promiss unless there are heavy reasons, not to. Just like they take care of visitation rights with divorced parents. And maybe 'force' adoptive parents to let their child see them for at least 2 or 3 hours a year.

This is an argument that is used, that the adopted child has bonded, but the genetic tie is a natural bond and a biological need. In the cases where the child is returned even at an older age, they fit right in and resent the adopters who fought against the return. I think it was Baby M who is an example of this.

@@summerhill93 Could be in some cases, depending on de home situation. If there wasn't neglect/ abuse from the biological parents before I think it could work. Also maybe it depends on how long they have been adopted and what age they are. If they are really little, they could also maybe miss the adoptive parents. It is different individually. Every case is unique.

It wasn't their parents. Even catelyn wanted to keep the baby after she was born. It was actually Tyler that said we go through with the adoption or I'm breaking up with you

What kind of “better life” is it really when you start out in life losing your entire family and all the relatives to come? Think how devastating that would be for an adult, yet it is ok for a child?

They don’t want her mentioned on tv or on the internet. They literally adopted a child from a teen on a tv its very strange to want privacy after adopting a child from tv… it seems the relationship was getting a bit to close when the children referred to themselves as sisters once that happened and visits stop

But they refused them to see her for 5 years now not just at the age of 15. Brandon and Teresa better watch out because Carly my resent them for not allowing her to know her birth parents.

Carly's face is never shown on the show so her privacy was already protected. They'd never really show the visits either when they did happen

Every child would prefer to be with their real family if they could. This is why adoption should be only for true orphans and as open as possible with the openness enforced by law.

Also I remember Brandon and Theresa said they are quite Christian and their Christianity is important. I think they watched the show and maybe saw some stuff about Tyler Nd Caitlin that they didn't like or don't want to rub off on their kid, considering T&C aren't religious at all and the likes.

​@ekg891 So I am a Conservative Christian and I don't agree with. Brandon and Teresa. I think Cate and Tyler are Christians look how Nova talks about God. I can understand them not agreeing with everything they do but with Cate and Tyler they wouldn't have Carly.

@@SleepyEyeglasses-us2tn sure but I was thinking beyond that. It doesn't seem like Tyler nor Cait go to Church at all, Brandon and Theresa on the other hand said they did. Also it might not be Tyler and Cait in particular who they have have issues with but rather the other family members and their behaviours. Seeing Tyler and Cait's parents isn't reassuring and I could understand if Brandon and Theresa would rather Carly not have the chance to mingle with them too much plus Caitlin clearly struggling mentally a lot. Add the issue of everything being talked about on a show.

Open adoption is never legally binding in court. The adoptive parents have the last say. Even if it was in writings

I’ve always felt that Brandon and Teresa said whatever they needed to say to be chosen as parents, and once the adoption was finalised, their true colours came out. I also think Teresa is extremely insecure, and feels threatened by Catelyn and Tyler. Particularly Catelynn.

@@rebeccamace1534 hit the nail on the head

They did originally agree to an open adoption. Which means visitation on whatever was agreed upon. Sure they can say no being the legal guardians and maybe Carly is at an age where she doesn't even want to see them right now which is fine too. but it's still going against what the original agreement was.

@@ashleymarie5093facts

​@@ashleymarie5093They never agreed on pimping out Carly for the show. The biological parents wanted the visits to be showed on MTV.

​@@notsureiLDid you not watch 16& Pregnant??? Catelynn & Tyler did everything Carly's adoptive parents wanted, They didn't even want her shown on the camera along with The adoptive parents. They all agreed to an open adoption, Which means they still have rights to see Carly, MTV has followed Carly's journey since birth, but blur her face out to respect them all, so ofc she would still be on the show when she agrees to it. They all left the choice up to Carly when she was old enough to say yes or no. They have never forced her to do anything.

​@@notsureiLThey were pimping Carly themselves doing magazine interviews with pictures. Plus I have seen them at least 8 times in front of camera's on Teen Mom. Nobody will recognize Carly because she hasn't been filmed for years and her face changes from baby to teenager. But EVERYBODY will recognize Brandon and Theresa. So if they want not to ve recognized, they both would have to get plastic surgery. They were fine with it in the beginning when they wanted Carly. When the backlash came, all of a sudden they want privacy. Such hypocrites. It's only an excuse to keep her away.

do y’all watch the show. She wants to see them

And you know they have an only fans how?

@@ericdwhitmorec They have talked about it on the show. Duh! 🙄 So many opportunities and they chose Only Fans. 😬 After four daughters.

I agree. I'd do everything to keep my kids from people on disgusting websites

They stop them from seeing her years ago. It had nothing to do with only fans

​@@lilebb1657agree

Because the adopters are treating Carly as a possession not a feeling human being with inalienable rights and the breached their verbal agreement with C&T

😳😳😳 I didn't know about the OF. Holy moly who would want to see those two getting it on? 🤢

I read that they weren’t very responsible & they was teenagers

They were literally kids themselves & both of them lived in very abusive dysfunctional families. Some of the things shown when teen mom was brand new, when Kate & Tyler were growing up & pregnant, was so depressing & sad, sometimes hard to watch how they really lived. So in my opinion, they done the absolute best thing for Carly. Of course their lives are very different now, they have money, they’re older, wiser, & on their own…….so why wouldn’t they have & create their own family now?? But I get it tho, everyone has their own opinion about it 🤷‍♀️

That would bw dumb of you. If you watched the show you would realize Carly would've been raised in a not healthy environment. By giving hwr uo they made her life better.

​@@courtneyw6224the 3 they HAVE aren't EITHER.

@MrsMartinez_ I'm curious to know if you were adopted ?

Open adoption fool. It was agreed to allow them to see their birth daughter throughout the years, but now they are saying no. We don't know the entire reason.. they have the right, but when someone gives you their kid and makes a deal that you can have her if they can still see her then be respectful of that deal. Unless the kid has said no

They were kids and under the assumption and belief that they would be allowed in her life and have visits etc it was said by the parents on Tv

Why adopt a child with the promises of allowing the child to visit the birth family every year, talk to them every 6 months and agree to sending pictures every 6 months and every birthday if you have zero plans of withholding that promise to the ppl that made you parents in the first place. There are millions of children in foster care they crossed state lines to buy a baby from a 15 year old girl

Tyler said the choice was not Carly’s

@@summerhill93 many times I have thrown myself under the bus not to put my kids in an uncomfortable position, that’s what parents do. Regardless this needs to be private, not for the whole world to see for Carly’s sake.

@ldv02 i agree the public aspect of this makes it challenging for all. However as time goes on, adoption issues are being highlighted in a way I hope brings awareness and hopefully greater legal protections for adoptees and birth parents

She will always be their daughter. No one OWNS a child, but adopters sure like to think they do.

They knew there was a TV show and agreed to yearly visits anyways. And they stopped answering calls and texts with no explanation. That's not right.

@@CherokeeBird Maybe they agreed but it probably wasn’t in a contract, maybe they didn’t like the attention Carly was getting from the public surrounding the visitations. It seemed like a big production when ever they had them. They have Carly’s best interest in mind . You certainly can’t blame them for wanting to protect their child.

Not visitation RIGHTS, just a visit.

The adoptive parents agreed that they could have visitation with the child when they gave her up for adoption.If they had said no,they would have probably looked at different people who would have agreed with visitation of the child.

@@lawrenceoxford MUTUALLY AGREED UPON VISITATION.

@@happyjoy338 that’s still weird.

@@lawrenceoxford well that changes perspective if they said that from the beginning pre adoption arrangement.

Feel for Carly!! Imagine losing your ENTIRE family the moment you were born! An adult could be done in by such grief. Every child wants to know their parents, siblings, and kin. All caretakers of children have a sacred obligation to put their child(ren) first. This is not happening here.

Under what conditions, OPEN ADOPTION? They got scammed just like most mothers/fathers do and that child will always be theirs. Adopters don't own someone else's children. So disrespectful and rude.

this is stupid

Because it didn't cost them a small fortune to adopt her ? What MONEY? NO ONE ever predicted these two would parlay their teen pregnancy into a career. So money ? Those two came from NOTHING. THEY adopted her because of money is the wildest comment I have EVER read.

@@justmythoughts2962they got her for free

I don't think any of the OG teen moms could have foreseen the success of the show and therefore income to be able to raise these kids. Caitlyn and tys story is one of the few that came from broken homes and little support. They wanted better for their baby unbeknownst to them that the show would be a hit and making them financially capable and they probably realized that they could have done it but it was too late. I think there's a lot of guilt there for that reason.

They weren’t responsible for a baby.

Yeah the other children they kept

Right! They definitely getting tired of the birth parents actually wanting to be in their child life. Freaking selfish. If you don't want open adoption then get another baby

I don't trust them either but she will be 18 in three years and if she wants to see them herself she will they can't stop her also if she doesn't wanna see the adoptive parents no more she doesn't have to she isn't obligated to

I agree. Apparently, they done exactly the same with their other adopted child.

Adopters are more frequently narcissistic than the general population.

@Zahra. That’s bad and one reason there needs to be legal teeth in open adoption agreements.

STOP , What an opinion.

@@Yes0hyes1921 it is unfortunately how the modern adoption system works, there's an over saturation of unwanted babies: see non yt babies whereas adopting parents who tend to be yt fight over the few yt babies up for adoption. It's the truth, I'm just the messenger. And yes they can cost a lot of money because they are more sought after, it costs less to adopt a non yt baby. Yep an unfortunate truth.

​@@malcriadamedina5358What's a yt baby?

@@Yes0hyes1921 He's correct in pointing out the business side of adoption. Babies as commodities. Not exactly a pro-family stance for adopted people.

No they can't, they adopted her out. Unless they find a ridiculous judge they won't get granted her back

Don’t be ridiculous!

The ethical thing for the adopters to have would have been to give Carly back at an early age. Adopters most often want possession not what is best for the child.

@@heatherthompson8878 if it was a closed adoption then yes that wouldn't be able to but they wore in her life for a while so if they wanted to get her back they could

No it isnt.

Child as property. Fun stuff. Can suck to be a kid. Verbal agreements are made in heaven as well as on earth.

See how these people talk about you AFTER strangers make off with their child.. Before, so brave and selfless. After, nothing but dehumanizing, rude comments. They don't own someone elses child. Get over it.