TYRANNOSAURS: Behind the Art with James Gurney

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James Gurney

James Gurney

9 жыл бұрын

Illustrator James Gurney demonstrates how he researched and painted two dinosaur illustrations for Scientific American Magazine's May, 2015 feature called "Rise of the Tyrannosaurs."
The article was written by Stephen Brusatte, one of the paleontologists who discovered the long-snouted Qianzhousaurus, nicknamed "Pinocchio Rex," and its bizarre lesser-known cousins. Over 20 new kinds of tyrannosaurs have been discovered in the last 15 years. In some cases there were large and small tyrannosaur predators sharing the same environment.
Also included in this video is a scene of a large type of tyrannosaur, the Yutyrannus, threatening to steal a kill from a group of Dilong. Gurneyy documents every stage of the process. This video is the short version of the full 40-minute video, which is now available as a download.
Full-length 40 minute HD video available at gumroad.com/l/tyrannosaur (credit cards)
or sellfy.com/p/32HI/ (Paypal)

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@linlomox
@linlomox 9 жыл бұрын
when you see his work process you can't help but fall a bit in love!
@Bansemer
@Bansemer 9 жыл бұрын
I have just watched the full version of Jim's video and having produced over 100 of our "Painting & Travel with Roger & Sarah Bansemer" television shows for PBS, I can say without hesitation that Jim has masterfully created a masterful video. It not only is very interestingly filmed and edited flawlessly to keep the attention of the viewer but the content flows from one step to the next showing and describing the process of creating the finished artwork. A real behind the scenes look. This is the kind of video that is so nicely produced, I can watch it over and over and find something new each time.
@JamesGurney
@JamesGurney 9 жыл бұрын
Roger Bansemer Thanks so much, Roger, and I recommend your channel kzfaq.info and your PBS program, which is on hundreds of channels across the USA.
@terreonlegrande6517
@terreonlegrande6517 8 жыл бұрын
+James Gurney do more videos with big meat eating dinosaurs like this
@Supersaurus4
@Supersaurus4 7 жыл бұрын
So you're the guy that Torvosaurus gurneyi was named in honor of. Amazing
@theboogeyman1100
@theboogeyman1100 3 жыл бұрын
Really? Is this true?
@theboogeyman1100
@theboogeyman1100 3 жыл бұрын
If it is, that’s cool
@Ujjwalkumar-je3me
@Ujjwalkumar-je3me 3 жыл бұрын
@@theboogeyman1100 Yeah it's true
@zaydenparker3784
@zaydenparker3784 2 жыл бұрын
You all probably dont care but does anyone know a method to log back into an instagram account..? I was dumb forgot my account password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me.
@austinblake6376
@austinblake6376 2 жыл бұрын
@Zayden Parker instablaster ;)
@theversatileartist6446
@theversatileartist6446 9 жыл бұрын
My money is yours, nothing better than learning from the master. I have both of your instructional books and they are phenomenal.
@jeffmiracolaartist
@jeffmiracolaartist 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as usual, James. Beautifully done content and video production!
@DJSHADDY2K7
@DJSHADDY2K7 9 жыл бұрын
wow i like James work.
@boitahaki
@boitahaki 9 жыл бұрын
This man is a master, a modern genius of visuals.
@emillyc9155
@emillyc9155 7 жыл бұрын
Daaaamn!! The amount of dedication and time put into this is unreal, i wish i had that much patience and willingness to practice every single day.
@DevinC_
@DevinC_ 9 жыл бұрын
Thank Mr. Gurney for the great videos! Just bought the 40 min version excited to see more.
@dayf722
@dayf722 9 жыл бұрын
I love the enthusiasm you have in making these videos and your art. There are so many moments that make me smile. Thanks!
@DAVIDPETERS12C
@DAVIDPETERS12C 9 жыл бұрын
Good to see you again, my friend. And always fascinating to see another artist's technique while at work. Like Vermeer, you paint with light, which I so admire.
@Eldoski
@Eldoski 9 жыл бұрын
Oh this is fantastic, I love how that painting turned out. I can't wait to see the 40 minute one
@cesarvoigt
@cesarvoigt 5 жыл бұрын
LOVED!! And the process is beautiful to watch.. great piece of art!
@lizzywolfe03
@lizzywolfe03 7 жыл бұрын
My mother told me, ever scene I was only 2 years old, I found a love for dinosaurs. As time goes by my love for dinosaurs grows, and only a year or two later a passion for art soon developed. My goal in life it to get to where you are, or be a paleontologist, or anything around those lines, I'm still young though, only 13, soon to be 14 so when I tell my teachers and classmates what I want to be, most don't know what that even is, usually giving me a little laugh. My family has and always will support me though my journey. I will say I have a large collection of dinosaur fossils, and figures. I'm mainly just trying to say that you inspire me, and your art work is absolutely beautiful, please never stop doing these beautiful works of art. - Elizabeth Wolfe
@robertheilmeier2671
@robertheilmeier2671 7 жыл бұрын
+Elizabeth Wolfe Best wishes and blessings for your journey and for your dreams! It´s an immeasurably valuable thing that your familiy supports your. Greetings from Germany!
@attie1979
@attie1979 5 жыл бұрын
As a blooming paleoartist, I support you all the way! Good luck!
@EdwardianTea
@EdwardianTea 5 жыл бұрын
When I was 14, I recall studying dinosaurs in depth, now 20, I was lucky enough to describe recently discovered Macrocollum, a sauropodomorph that seems, facially to bear an antorbital fenestra perforated by the premaxillary fenestra. I studied anatomy, locomotion and behavioural traits; my favourites were the abelisaurs, with their reduced arms of vestigial trait.
@Murkoph
@Murkoph 9 жыл бұрын
I just finished the longer video and it was great! Thanks for releasing it :)
@f.ch.6046
@f.ch.6046 9 жыл бұрын
I really love how much work and detail you put into your videos (as well as in your paintings, obviously). They always cheer me up and inspire me to get out, away from the computer and try to paint traditionally! I learn so much about how to approach a painting by watching your videos. Thank you very much for that.
@NajamQureshi
@NajamQureshi 9 жыл бұрын
I love how almost all of your paintings (I have both books) celebrate light. High key. Which give them very open and comforting mood.
@keithfox6608
@keithfox6608 9 жыл бұрын
Always very inspiring to see you at work, I've been a fan since I was a tyke. Thanks for explaining the process from thumbnails to finished painting.
@mauricioantontv
@mauricioantontv 9 жыл бұрын
Simply amazing, James, your art just gets better and better and the video is superbly crafted and edited. Congratulations!
@JamesGurney
@JamesGurney 9 жыл бұрын
***** Thanks, Mauricio and Jeff Miracola, that means a lot from two guys who are both brilliant artists AND you guys both do amazing videos.
@Rfighter7
@Rfighter7 8 жыл бұрын
This inspired me so much!!! Thank you!
@lauranimbus8092
@lauranimbus8092 9 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! I love these process paintings and am looking forward to the long-video. I will also have to check out the magazine cover. :3 Keep up the amazing work!
@Ryowazza99
@Ryowazza99 9 жыл бұрын
Bought it with closed eyes! Amazing as usual, thank you!
@vllad74
@vllad74 9 жыл бұрын
Great as usual. Thanks James!
@vllad74
@vllad74 9 жыл бұрын
Just bought it and downloading now. Can't wait to watch it. :)
@kevinrice6245
@kevinrice6245 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Great work James!
@thisjustin7492
@thisjustin7492 3 жыл бұрын
So fascinated just to listen to your stories.
@shellysolomonart
@shellysolomonart 9 жыл бұрын
Oh man oh man oh man! I have to have that video! I already bought your others so I know it'll be really inspirational and informative! Thanks so much for sharing your process with us!
@pensapiens6389
@pensapiens6389 9 жыл бұрын
This was very inspiring, thank you!
@IGameChangerI
@IGameChangerI 5 жыл бұрын
James Gurney is not only a master painter, he is a great teacher as well. His books offer a wealth of valuable information and are filled with carefully selected illustrations that beautifully visualize the points he talks about. I owe a great deal of my skills as an artist to this man.
@invadercowy
@invadercowy 9 жыл бұрын
Fantastic stuff!
@jeanetteyork2582
@jeanetteyork2582 6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating and educational!
@jessewinchester
@jessewinchester 9 жыл бұрын
Beautiful and inspiring!
@anotherwesley7661
@anotherwesley7661 9 жыл бұрын
I still a beginner and I work mostly in digital art and sometimes acrylic, but absolutely nothing gets me fired up about art or eager to improve like watching your videos, seeing how you work, and seeing that studio full of models and reference pictures. :) Dinotopia was my obsession as a kid, and now I keep Color and Light in arm's reach whenever possible. It's so amazing to see the theories turn into paintings in real time. Thank you so much! Definitely looking forward to the next video!
@JamesGurney
@JamesGurney 9 жыл бұрын
Rivka Z Wow, thank you, Rivka/Wesley. And best wishes with your artwork.
@8bitkame
@8bitkame 5 жыл бұрын
You sir, are very thorough.
@PeninsulaPaintings
@PeninsulaPaintings 6 жыл бұрын
Damn! I thought the painting on the thumbnail was a photo of a 3D sculpture! I expected this to be an exhibition/tutorial of handmade Dinosaur statues. Not disappointed in the least though, those paintings are amazing!!
@XaeeD
@XaeeD 8 жыл бұрын
Yo this dude's dedication is on a different level lol, he really puts in the work, but the results are truly beautiful and captivating: totally worth the time and effort. Though I kinda envy mister Gurney for having a job as cool and relaxing as this: not too many can make a living doing what he does. Only a select few have that skill and drive to do this all their lives. I used to dream of doing something like this when I was a child, back when I used to draw dinosaurs all the time. Such a wonderful job, and such a talented artist. Wish there were more of these available on youtube, because.. people wouldn't watch it just to get tips for painting, or advice for which brush to use, most people tend to like watching other people doing what they're good at. Anyway, great stuff!
@imphelikz
@imphelikz 9 жыл бұрын
this video is gold!
@soll3452
@soll3452 9 жыл бұрын
I bought this video and this one is super informative, like «Watercolor in the Wild» and «How I paint Dinosaurs». He is The Master, really. The process is hard to do, yet fascinating. Will wait until the «Gouache in the Wild» air.
@mt5420
@mt5420 6 жыл бұрын
i love seeing you draw and paint dinosours
@ScotCampbellwindowpainter
@ScotCampbellwindowpainter 7 жыл бұрын
So wonderful
@wacom8199
@wacom8199 9 жыл бұрын
Epic skills! , thank you for sharing. your work is mind blowing :D!!
@nihongogogo
@nihongogogo 7 жыл бұрын
Bix was always one of my favorite characters from childhood
@parkerhan5836
@parkerhan5836 6 жыл бұрын
*jaw drops to floor* Huh? Wha? How? This is incredible! You are so passionate and put so much effort into these!
@dmcupitty
@dmcupitty 4 жыл бұрын
My god gurney would u ever cease to amaze me
@PunishSlave
@PunishSlave 8 ай бұрын
Excelente trabajo
@fatoldman49
@fatoldman49 9 жыл бұрын
Mr. Gurney, I have to say your work astounds me. I am not much of a painter but I am a skilled sculptor. I love what you do and would give my right arm to be able to paint the way you do!
@JamesGurney
@JamesGurney 9 жыл бұрын
Brad Hicks Thank you very much for the kind words, but hang onto that right arm!
@neilfinnart1874
@neilfinnart1874 5 жыл бұрын
Easily my favorite interpretation of Yutyrannus, who is also my favorite carnivore.
@darrenleow7691
@darrenleow7691 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing.
@Micca_
@Micca_ 2 жыл бұрын
Wow ❤️ amazing and I love it
@abstractnebula6425
@abstractnebula6425 7 жыл бұрын
Totally subbed, amazing. :D
@davidrubioroldan
@davidrubioroldan 3 жыл бұрын
Maravilloso un trabajo incomiable que nos hace soñar en una realidad plausible
@leanhquoc3109
@leanhquoc3109 7 жыл бұрын
this is awesome af :( Thank you so much
@DrawWithAury
@DrawWithAury 9 жыл бұрын
Great art e video 👍👍👍
@HAL-99000
@HAL-99000 2 жыл бұрын
Excelente!!
@samuraireflection
@samuraireflection 7 жыл бұрын
You have great drawings I see, very important stuff.
@thomaseulogy7206
@thomaseulogy7206 8 жыл бұрын
I have to unseen this so I could have that first feeling of amazement all over again. "That's gold, Jerry, gold!" Seinfeld ref. :D
@smokeynewton
@smokeynewton 2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing life you've created for yourself.
@komozeck
@komozeck 9 жыл бұрын
wow! thank you!
@pepperpe6716
@pepperpe6716 3 жыл бұрын
I have the feeling stopped appreciating people lately. So - I'm absolute amazed by your work, and can't believe the quality of your videos.. especially since most would put you into the generation of videocontent creators. I'm glade to have found such a passionate highly skilled person on here!
@pepperpe6716
@pepperpe6716 3 жыл бұрын
Please keep doing - no sure what, but what ever you can image for yourself - and if possible let us keep watching it. Bests Alex, 23 from Germany 🖌️❤️
@sabergamer695
@sabergamer695 7 жыл бұрын
DUDE YOUR AMAZING!!!YOU HAVE 1K LIKES AND ONLY 2 DISLIKES!!!
@carlosmello4814
@carlosmello4814 9 жыл бұрын
Sua arte é inspiradora!
@user-pj5jj2tx5l
@user-pj5jj2tx5l 7 жыл бұрын
James Gurney You are Awesome
@ktg619
@ktg619 6 жыл бұрын
Love it
@chichiboypumpi
@chichiboypumpi 3 жыл бұрын
First time I saw Mr. Gurney's work was in a 1991 issue of Newsweek magazine, along with Gurche and Hallet's
@stuckinsj
@stuckinsj 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Buying the video now. :) What happened to Mr. Kooks?!?
@JamesGurney
@JamesGurney 9 жыл бұрын
stuckinsj My little parakeet finally died of old age at 11.
@jamescunningham4418
@jamescunningham4418 5 жыл бұрын
James is a badass!
@sebastian_pizarro
@sebastian_pizarro 9 жыл бұрын
you're my favorite youtuber
@the_resin_nation
@the_resin_nation 9 жыл бұрын
hi James. amazing video. what model/kit sculpture of dinosaur (the maker /dino) is the bigger one in your video. if like to get my hands on one of those :)
@JamesGurney
@JamesGurney 9 жыл бұрын
Stephen Vinyard The bigger dino sculpt is the Daspletosaurus my Michael Trcic, from the mid 1990s, after he worked as one of the sculptors for Jurassic Park. Some of the other sculpts that inspired me were by Tony McVey and Kaiyodo.
@the_resin_nation
@the_resin_nation 9 жыл бұрын
James Gurney awesome ! thanks for the fast response. your work is greatly admired in my household. I just bought an issue of the scientific American to frame with the Qianzhousaurus cover.
@santiagogarcia-bk5bz
@santiagogarcia-bk5bz 9 жыл бұрын
your work is amazing, i have a question, 2:09 minutes you miss the illustrations?
@crystalheart9
@crystalheart9 6 жыл бұрын
Oh cool you put some fluffy feathers on him. I just saw an interesting documentary about that.
@dougieladd
@dougieladd 8 жыл бұрын
Hi James, have you ever done your illustrations via digital mediums? i.e. Painter or Photoshop? Love the channel by the way... inspiring stuff! :)
@bubanner
@bubanner 7 жыл бұрын
what is that board set up you have on your easel..i believe you have a couple different ones...do you make yourself or buy them.??
@eduardodimas5206
@eduardodimas5206 9 жыл бұрын
Hi from Colombia The land of Sea Mosters I want to tell you that I love your art and want to become a paleoartist!
@jakubsagner7735
@jakubsagner7735 5 жыл бұрын
U AWESOME... its so REAL
@JojobaNutOil
@JojobaNutOil 5 жыл бұрын
im curious about "hodgepodge + clutter".
@anthrosapien3784
@anthrosapien3784 3 жыл бұрын
what is he using at 1:01?
@gondebas
@gondebas 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, can anyone tell me what word James is saying at 1:05. Automatic captions make it "dialogues," but but it neither sounds like one nor fits there.
@barselino9877
@barselino9877 3 жыл бұрын
It’s “Dilong” He wrote it in the video
@gondebas
@gondebas 3 жыл бұрын
@@barselino9877 Yes, I can see it now. Thanks:-)
@avedisruben8346
@avedisruben8346 5 жыл бұрын
At 4:02 what is the name of the pen 🖊please
5 ай бұрын
dude you are so cool 😃
@skinny_genius7570
@skinny_genius7570 5 жыл бұрын
What type of paints do you use?
@JamesGurney
@JamesGurney 5 жыл бұрын
I use oils, casein, gouache, and watercolor. Usually several brands of each, except for the casein which is only made by one company.
@samuraireflection
@samuraireflection 7 жыл бұрын
I was linked here by a hirohiko araki fan on "araki draws all jojos 4x faster version" on here to your page.
@dextermorgan7494
@dextermorgan7494 9 жыл бұрын
where did you get that tyrannosaur sculpture next to yourself in the video? i would definately buy one
@JamesGurney
@JamesGurney 9 жыл бұрын
dexter morgan There's a gray Daspletosaurus sculpt by Mike Trcic, and various other sculpts by Tony McVey and Kaiyodo.
@dextermorgan7494
@dextermorgan7494 9 жыл бұрын
thank you so much
@wendybonds
@wendybonds 8 жыл бұрын
I wish I could do that.
@pramodbhan8289
@pramodbhan8289 5 жыл бұрын
Wow......
@PrincessaMij
@PrincessaMij 9 жыл бұрын
Does video/DVD have caption? I'm deaf.
@SylvainKlein
@SylvainKlein 9 жыл бұрын
Hey James, nice video and I'm going to buy the 40min video on your gumroad page to see the all thing. Can you, or will you be ok to do a video on the commercial/client side view of this work (or another work) ? I mean, you said you past more than a week on this project, doing some outdoor research sketches etc... That's great! But I'm very intersting to know how you sell your service for this project, I mean, it's a fine art original piece you did here. That has a huge money value, so I'm surprised that your client didn't prefere to hire some digitial illustrator who can provide same (or almost) final visual result for the cover in maybe less time and with a huge more flexibility and certainly a lower price because it's not an original fine art piece. I dont mean that your client would have hired some one else, it's the opposite I'm interested in :) It,s very cool for you to have this work and I'm interesting of the part of the project who you sell yourself and negociate with the client to avoid him to hire a lower price digital illustrator. (sorry for my english ^^)
@JamesGurney
@JamesGurney 9 жыл бұрын
Sylvain Klein I can't speak for the client, but I believe they are interested in commissioning the best image to illustrate their article, however it is produced. Neither digital art nor hand-painted art is necessarily cheaper or faster than the other. One good thing about hand-painted artwork is that it can be exhibited in museums. The last illustration I did for this client was included in an exhibition called Focus on Nature at the New York State Museum.
@meguskus
@meguskus 9 жыл бұрын
James Gurney Huge fan here. You're my main inspiration for my career, and I agree with what you said here, but how do those clients find the best possible artist for their article/project? I am an aspiring (digital) paleoartist and I have no idea how to get my name out there. There don't seem to be any job postings for this kind of work and contacting all sorts of magazines and museums would seem weird, wouldn't it?
@JamesGurney
@JamesGurney 9 жыл бұрын
Meggy Vodušek I'd recommend 1. Posting your work to a blog and to other forums like DeviantArt, 2. Go to Society of Vertebrate Paleontology (SVP) and Guild of Natural Science (GNSI) conferences to meet other artists and scientists. 3. Enter work in Focus on Nature (FON), every two years in Albany, NY. 4. Ask at your nearest natural history museums to sketch from their collection--scientists are usually very pleased to help artists who are serious to learn. 5. Submit your work to the reader art to Prehistoric Times. If your work is good, it will get noticed!
@meguskus
@meguskus 9 жыл бұрын
James Gurney Thank you very much for your time! I will look into all of those and I hope I can make as much of it as possible without being rich or living in the US.
@913seashells
@913seashells 9 жыл бұрын
Oh boy Mr. Gurney did a great painting of ancient China 125 million years ago. scenes 1:44 to 3:44 A Competition Between 2 TYRANNOSAURS a pack of DILONG & the mighty YUTYRANNUS the 2 close relatives of TYRANNOSAURUS REX. I understand that this is just a sample of a 40 Minute documentary. I hope this comes to DVD just like James Gurney's other Successful documentary HOW I PAINT DINOSAURS.
@user-gk9hb6gf4r
@user-gk9hb6gf4r 8 ай бұрын
Eu gosto deste tipo de vídeos KZfaq!
@hentesgyik95
@hentesgyik95 9 жыл бұрын
Great painting man! But I think after the All Yesterdays, you should give up the "shrink-wrapping" or "visible fenestra" style, because with your talent and without the shrink-wrapping these paintings could be the most realistic ones of all, compareble to the master Knight's work (in their age those were the most realistic painting about dinosaurs) :D
@cecidelacruz879
@cecidelacruz879 9 жыл бұрын
I Love you art
@colbymcdonald9072
@colbymcdonald9072 5 жыл бұрын
whoever puts a thumbs down on these videos is an absolute...
@BarelloSmith
@BarelloSmith 5 жыл бұрын
It looks very nice from an aesthetic point of view but why do you paint visible fenestrae on the animals as if there was no flesh between the skull and the skin of the dinosaurs?
@altin.ademi01
@altin.ademi01 5 жыл бұрын
All these paintings are "Big brain.
@bandwidthfilms
@bandwidthfilms 9 жыл бұрын
Is that the music from Assassins Creed?
@JamesGurney
@JamesGurney 9 жыл бұрын
Bandwidth The music is by Kevin MacLeod, and you can hear more of his work at Incompetech.
@willmcconnell7233
@willmcconnell7233 9 жыл бұрын
James Gurney Thanks James, I'll check it out
@dylangeltzeiler946
@dylangeltzeiler946 8 жыл бұрын
+James Gurney Hi MR. Gurney, Merry Christmas. "Once Again" It's me DDG The one who last replied to you about your Tyrannosaurs like the image of a pack of Dilong & a fierce Yutyrannus. By the name of Kathleen Geltzeiler. Like I said Those Comments were by me & they were true. My mother doesn't Comment on KZfaq. So no hard feeling? Well I finally signed in. Ahem, Anyway, I'm Going to Comment on How I Paint Dinosaurs. I'll also explain about your books of DINOTOPIA again as well. Have a Merry Christmas.
@lauramesonescasto4463
@lauramesonescasto4463 8 жыл бұрын
James and Jeanette the best team ever!! UH UHHHHH
@JamesGurney
@JamesGurney 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Laura. We enjoyed talking to you. You bring out everyone's best.
@loplop91
@loplop91 9 жыл бұрын
i miss mr. kooks :(
@JamesGurney
@JamesGurney 9 жыл бұрын
loplop91 Me too! He was my saurian advisor.
@SCR_ProductionsYT
@SCR_ProductionsYT 7 жыл бұрын
James Gurney Saurian advisor??
@JojobaNutOil
@JojobaNutOil 5 жыл бұрын
@@SCR_ProductionsYT because birds decent from dino hahah! geddit geddit ;)
@dave5194
@dave5194 9 жыл бұрын
You use a lego dolly? Cool.
@Sidehustlemagazine
@Sidehustlemagazine 9 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable video James. Your work is truly inspiring. Going to purchase the video. Would love to get you for an interview one day. We are in the process of trying to publish our first magazine later this year. -PREHISTORIC MAGAZINE www.PrehistoricMagazine.com
@Souradeep0
@Souradeep0 7 жыл бұрын
so tyrannos had feathers !!!
@JoshuaHults
@JoshuaHults 7 жыл бұрын
No the whole thing is a myth propagated by a small group who want birds to have come from dinosaurs which has been debunked over and over and over and over again.
@miguelisaurusbruh1158
@miguelisaurusbruh1158 5 ай бұрын
​@@JoshuaHultsare you retarded or do you pretend?
@laughinglaughing1416
@laughinglaughing1416 4 жыл бұрын
Shrink wrapping
@theo1856
@theo1856 6 жыл бұрын
I wish it was a tarbosaurus
@johnwhite5306
@johnwhite5306 5 жыл бұрын
He put feathers on him lol. There is nothing to suggest the T-Rex had feathers.
@MordifertheMalicious
@MordifertheMalicious 5 жыл бұрын
He’s not painting a T-Rex...
@johnwhite5306
@johnwhite5306 5 жыл бұрын
@@MordifertheMalicious true that, regardless, no need for feathers.
@scatman9166
@scatman9166 4 жыл бұрын
John White plenty of need for feathers actually seeing as the species in the vid have direct evidence for feathers
@miguelisaurusbruh1158
@miguelisaurusbruh1158 5 ай бұрын
educate yourself
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