Winter Tires vs All Season [All Weather] Tires - What the Data Tells Us

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Жыл бұрын

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Can modern all season tires (these type of tires are called called all weather tires in North America, Europe doesn't have the US all season tires) keep up with winter tires in the snow? Can a good performance winter tire match an all season tire in the dry and wet? What is the best type of tyre for you? All Season or Winter tires? Which type of tire uses the most fuel / gas, is the nosiest? Is best in aquaplaning / hydroplaning?
This video looks at test data which includes all season and winter tires in the same test and compares the balance of performances across dry, wet and snow.
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Data used in video: (please subscribe)
Tyre Reviews All Season / Winter Spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Sport Auto All Season Test: www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2...
Auto Bild All Season Test: www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2...
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@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
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@engineer1692
@engineer1692 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos. How about testing new winter tires vs 5+ year old tires, or nearly new vs 5+ year old tires with similar tread wear? Hard to test exactly, but would be interesting to see how tires perform as they age. Also how old to let tires get before you change, even if they have good tread life.
@Phoenix_Core
@Phoenix_Core Жыл бұрын
what about the weather peak from bridgestone?
@peterwho9380
@peterwho9380 Жыл бұрын
Wished you would do a review for what's the best winter tire for RWD vehicles. What's rated best for FWD and AWD cars are not what's necessary good for RWD cars as when I first got my 2016 Mustang GT thinking buying the X-Ice Xi3's was the best option because it was the #1 tire back then but those tires were very unsafe to drive in and it ended up being the Blizzak WS80's being the life saver, now the WS90's are out. It's not the best with fuel consumption and connering but when you're driving in Canadian weather, it's better to drive safe than fast!
@Bhargav537
@Bhargav537 Жыл бұрын
Being a tyre geek myself, every kind of test and comparison I have ever imagined and wished it existed, this channel has it:D Cant thank you enough man!:)
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@Daniel-zr4pk
@Daniel-zr4pk Жыл бұрын
yeah right! this is literally the most useful chanel in the whole youtube
@webuser2014
@webuser2014 Жыл бұрын
I just like stats comparison. Depending on where your focus lies, there is a certain Tyre for you :D
@SiouplaitMerci
@SiouplaitMerci Жыл бұрын
@@webuser2014 which ones ? CrossClimate 2 ? I bought them for front tires size 245/19 . Only drove them on dry roads for the moment.
@SuperBasshunters
@SuperBasshunters Жыл бұрын
Is there a test on the channel how all-season tires behave on hot days? I mean temperatures above 30 * C, the surface is then 50 * C and more.
@kevinm594
@kevinm594 Жыл бұрын
My son is getting his driving permit and we watch your channel together. I keep telling him the only thing holding your 3,000lb vehicle to the road is a couple inches of rubber. Tire selection makes all the difference in safety. You can have all the blind spot warning, lane assist, automatic braking, AWD you want. If your tires don't hold you to the ground....all that stuff doesn't matter. Keep up the great work!!!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
That is awesome! Glad you're educating him :)
@Zduneqq
@Zduneqq Жыл бұрын
@@codincoman9019 please, visit central Poland .I suppose you will change your mind
@johnhufnagel
@johnhufnagel Жыл бұрын
This, is precisely why EVERY SINGLE YEAR on the first snow storm, we have dozens of fancy expensive SUVs in the ditches, because people forget that every mechanical aid and nanny in the world can't defeat the awesome power of the moron doing the piloting. Don't drive above your skill, don't drive faster than you can stop.
@johnhufnagel
@johnhufnagel Жыл бұрын
@@codincoman9019 I can actually agree and disagree with you, within my own fleet of vehicles. :D One car has summer only tires, but it gets put away in the late fall anyways so it never sees cold/snow or even rain mostly. Another is driven year round, but doesn't generally go out in snow, it just might get caught on a smaller storm, so it has good all seasons. The last gets studded snows put on it, as it does plowing duties in the winter, and has appropriate all season off-road capable tires on it the rest of the year.
@singular9
@singular9 Жыл бұрын
Also good brakes
@BedjamRivera
@BedjamRivera Жыл бұрын
That was probably the best description of the differences between them in the snow breaking 😂 " From that to that to oh my god that's a huge accident" 🤣🤣🤣 6:27
@kevinslegg1576
@kevinslegg1576 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see a test between All Seasons and Winter tyres on slushy snow surfaces, rather than the more usual tested dry compacted snow.
@yanni2112
@yanni2112 8 ай бұрын
that slush between lanes specifically
@trrruls
@trrruls 8 ай бұрын
I think the problem with that is the reproducability of these kind of surfaces... But I'm with you on that, I'd like to see some test like that, too!
@carguybd
@carguybd Жыл бұрын
Forever I will remember the day when my daughter’s friend was being dropped off at my home during the winter via her father in a 20 year old subcompact. I was shoveling the driveway when they arrived, and he began lamenting road slipperiness due to the snow. I then gave him my winter tire endorsement, same as I do to anyone who will listen. I worked in the automotive industry for 30 years and was involved in the association meetings where they debated the “how old is too old to keep driving on your tires” topic, for instance. Not two weeks after my conversation, he lost control on a curve and was broadsided by a truck. RIP my daughter’s best friend Rosie. How tragic. Winter tires likely would have prevented this tragedy.
@CujoBD.
@CujoBD. Жыл бұрын
@@vladimirkostic9932 This is terrible logic.
@CujoBD.
@CujoBD. Жыл бұрын
@@vladimirkostic9932 That's not how logic works.
@adriansutherland7948
@adriansutherland7948 Жыл бұрын
I got the crossclimates for my Alfa in November when temperatures dropped & my Pilot sport 4S just stopped working. Really good in cold wet conditions, snow was lacking this year but one morning driving home was overtaking multiple vehicles travelling very slowly & was finding tons of grip on what was fresh overnight snow. Ive run with pure winter tyres in the past & the crossclimates feel their equal IMO but as I've said we haven't had a hard winter for a few years. Put about 4000miles on them over winter & don't seem to have worn very much. Where the pilot sports I'm lucky to get 8000 out of them as I change them at around 3.5-4mm as performance wet & dry drops of sharply at these tread depths (8mm new) Ps I'm on very good terms with the lads at local tyre fitters!
@eazyt84
@eazyt84 Жыл бұрын
​@@adriansutherland7948dry performance tends to INcrease with lower thread depth
@corneliusthecrowtamer1937
@corneliusthecrowtamer1937 8 ай бұрын
Nice made up youtube comment story 🤣 why do you get off on writing fake stories like this?
@lukapogo
@lukapogo Жыл бұрын
Man you deserve an award for the work you’re doing, seriously
@Physics072
@Physics072 Жыл бұрын
Don't get cheap, send him an award.
@robtt997
@robtt997 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a test of a new all season/winter tyres against the same tyre half worn .Possibly adding in a fully worn tyre but still legal tyre. Just be interesting to see if the grip reduces in a linear way or not !
@zetnakatel
@zetnakatel Жыл бұрын
Yes, old tires would be good test.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
I've half shot this :)
@jankusmierski
@jankusmierski Жыл бұрын
Yes, I would be the great test :) Winter tyres doesn’t reduce grip linear on snow. The biggest difference is on first millimeters of use.
@muazqamar
@muazqamar Жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews You're a frickin beast
@Wthr08
@Wthr08 Жыл бұрын
Great idea
@clutchthepearls3062
@clutchthepearls3062 Жыл бұрын
I've been running Crossclimate+ on my GTI for a couple winters now and I love them. I live where the winters can swing from 20F and snow to 50F in the same week. They pair very well with my PS4S tires in the summer.
@Redhawk24
@Redhawk24 Жыл бұрын
Bridgestone Blizzak WS-90 and DM-V2 are probably the most popular winter tires in the US. We would love to see you test them. Keep up the great work!!!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
I really want to test those!
@45eno
@45eno Жыл бұрын
My Toyota Sienna has a extra set of OEM rims with WS-90 and my RAV4 V6 has a extra set of OEM rims with the DM-V2. People in the Northwest of the US believe 4x4/AWD means winter readiness and when I drive to the mountains 90% of the time those are the types spun out in the ditch.
@jaxonvictoria4345
@jaxonvictoria4345 Жыл бұрын
I have the Blizzak WS90 on my VW GTI and I can’t even tell you how excellent it is on fresh snow, days old snow, ice, and even 3-4 inches of snow. Saved my butt 3 times at least in the 400 miles I’ve been running it. I live in a mountainous alpine region and my own neighborhood is hilly as hell.
@pliedtka
@pliedtka Жыл бұрын
I wonder how newer Toyo GS-i 6 and new Nokia fares against them. They lasted a bit longer than WS-80. My sis, living in Sacramento area put a set of Cooper Discoverer True North on her 2015 Tacoma and side wall on both front tires disintegrated at the end of the season, leaving her stranded on Rd. 88. I'm so disappointed, and her being furious. Cooper Tires never again.
@krazyrabbit1963
@krazyrabbit1963 Жыл бұрын
Just put Bridgestone Blizzak WS-90s on my Kia Niro. First time with snow tires but have heard they do a good job if you don't have AWD.
@KM-os4be
@KM-os4be Жыл бұрын
Very good...Thanks! Here in Washington State we get some snow but mostly a lot of rain. The cross climate 2 works very well around here all year long.
@AnonymousAndy2
@AnonymousAndy2 Жыл бұрын
I needed 3 peak rated tires in order to take my 2017 Toyota C-HR into the French Alps last winter. I watched your videos & also read loads of reviews. I went with the latest Goodyear Vector All seasons as they were available in required 18inch size & fitted the bill. They have been brilliant & I’m very pleased with them and have found them to be very good all year round as living in South East England we don’t see much extreme snow! I know my car is not a performance car, but it does handle well & I do enjoy throwing it round the bends & these tires are superb in both wet & dry. I do think that they may have dropped my mpg a teeny weeny tiny amount but it’s worth it because car feels so secure in cold & wet.
@mangeshwalhe
@mangeshwalhe Жыл бұрын
Just wow!! Great comprehensive content. Great job!! Keep it up, keep them coming...
@Oli1260
@Oli1260 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this valuable information! I asked you last year about this comparison and you said you would make it this winter :) I know you read most comments, please would you be able to make a test of full profile vs used one? We see recommendations to change tires at 3 & 4 mm, would be great to know exacly how it affects the performance!
@jayfangRSA
@jayfangRSA Жыл бұрын
Fantastic information, and I think education should go well beyond just fellow tyre geeks in your community. I moved to Ireland from warmer climes, and didn't realize how much summer tyres go "off" at about 7 deg C. Learnt by feel (fortunately not the very hard way). Scary thing is vast majority of drivers here do not recognise this change of grip levels and no thoughts of switching tyres for cooler season.
@kobayashimaru8114
@kobayashimaru8114 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if you've done this already but would love to see a similar comparison using all-terrain/M+S tires for pick-ups/SUVs. For example, the Goodyear Duratrac is a winter rated, M+S, AT tire and I've personally found it to be the best do-it-all tire I've ever used. I'm curious to see how it stacks up to modern competition as well as dedicated winter tires. And does having the mountain-snowflake symbol make it a winter tire or just a winter capable tire?
@TheLambeh
@TheLambeh Жыл бұрын
After watching videos from several channels and looking through your website, I have purchased a set of Michelin CrossClimate 2s for my M240i to get me through the dreary North West UK winters. Last year I got stuck in less than half an inch of snow coming home from a night shift and had to sleep on the back seat for a couple of hours while waiting for the snow to clear up. Hopefully the CrossClimates are going to get me home where my Michelin Pilot Super Sports couldn't. Thanks a lot for all detailed information you have provided!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Oh they will. And you'll have a lot of fun if you turn TC off (not recommended of course)
@Kasapin5033
@Kasapin5033 Жыл бұрын
I have driven in a solid 2-3 inches of show covering the road last winter in Belgrade, -6C at the time, in my Megane 3 with CrossClimate 2 tires. I had zero issues moving about, but the snow was supper wet so I had to creep at a max of 30-40km/h in the city. Any faster and the rear end would start to slip when braking.
@wusthof641
@wusthof641 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic vid. Complex, but very informative. I think when my Pirelli all season plus' wear out I will switch to the cross climates for all year round driving. I have Nordic tires as well, but with AWD, the Nordic tires are overkill where I live. Either that, or get some summers and keep the nordics. Tough getting summers for a crossover suv with decent treadwear
@CanadianMax
@CanadianMax Жыл бұрын
I have a set of 245/50 Hankook Kinergy 4S2's on a 2023 Mazda CX50. They were perfect during summer temps of +30 degrees C and they saw their first snow and ice and -25 degrees this week. At -25, on dry pavement and on snow, these tires provide amazing grip. Enough for me to not be missing a set of winter's. It's only on Ice where they struggle a bit... They still provide enough grip to keep you safe at city speeds and has enough traction to get you going. My wife has a set of Bridgestone Turanza all season tires, and they are just plain dangerous on ANY amount of snow. She is running a set of Nordic winters as her second set, given how bad the traditional AS is. I will reserve my final judgement on what we call all weather tires in Canada, till I have driven the Hankooks in -40...
@sportsmachinerr1401
@sportsmachinerr1401 Жыл бұрын
You definitely can't beat two sets of wheels and tyres. The extra safety the Michelin CC+ brings over my Goodyear Supersport's in the British winter is definitely worth it, especially after a few trackdays the wet weather performance drops off quite a bit.
@marcvalme7732
@marcvalme7732 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for a comparison like this forever! Thank you so much for listening!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoyed it!
@fortinbras47
@fortinbras47 Жыл бұрын
Your excellent, scientific experiment oriented videos led me to think analytically about the distribution over road conditions I experience in New England and make a winter tire choice more cognizant of the tradeoffs. They also got me experimenting with different bicycle tires (where it's a lot cheaper to be a tire nerd :P)!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
What did you conclude?
@fortinbras47
@fortinbras47 Жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews Driving with a young family, I wanted the extra performance and safety margin that comes from a dedicated winter tire if I encountered winter conditions. I also don't HAVE to be out in the worst winter storms or icing conditions, the roads get cleared here, and hence I would rarely encounter situations where a Nordic winter tire was best. I went with the Michelin Alpin 5: strong results in the dry, sporty if by myself, but also good performance all around in case I need to safely get through anything else (including up to the ski slopes). For bicycle tires, I got the Continental Top Contact Winter II for winter bike commuting. It appears to be unique as a studless winter bicycle tire.
@play150
@play150 Жыл бұрын
@@fortinbras47 I used to run the Alpins, but after experiencing periods of the year where temperatures kept dipping below and rising above the 7C tire crossover temperature, I ended up moving to the Cross climate 2s :s (And some summer tires for going to the race track when it's the middle of summer)
@JustinJCB
@JustinJCB Жыл бұрын
The video I've been looking for! Thank you!
@maxkolbe8893
@maxkolbe8893 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your big Michelin test ! Cross Climate 2 vs Alpin 6 vs Snow Ice will be very interesting. Living in Auvergne France ( Michelin country) with twisty, mountain roads, a fair bit of ice and snow in Winter and very hot Summers I still have two sets of tyres (mounted on alloys) for my 2021 Duster (original Continental Eco Contacts and Goodyear Winter tyres) but Uniroyal All-Seasons for my Chevrolet Spark runabout.....the Cross Climate 2 (or 3!) is tempting when the next change comes around!
@kristianhermann5971
@kristianhermann5971 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the scientific approach to your testing and to sharing all the results - thanks!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@troyvan6952
@troyvan6952 Жыл бұрын
Great info Something else that should be discussed is tire pressure. Correct psi on winter tires is very important for grip. I own a powerful rear wheel drive vehicle running snow tires for winter conditions here in Canada. Recently found the car slipping a bit on wet roads at around 2 degrees celsius. Checked the psi all four corners 4 psi higher than I like, 34vs 30. Brought all tires to 30, problem solved. Glad I checked.
@MS-VO
@MS-VO Жыл бұрын
I love these videos! I have run Goodyear Vector 4seasons Gen 3 on my All4 Mini Countryman S for the past year and they are fantastic. I am thinking about two sets, though. Saying that, Scottish weather is quite unpredictable and often get four seasons in one day!
@timhancock6626
@timhancock6626 Жыл бұрын
I put Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons gen3 on my Octavia 4x4. I live in the Yorkshire Dales and you have to be prepared for anything, any time, including almost no snow for the last ten years. I really like them and they have lasted well over three years. I have no problem with the handling which is little different at legal speeds. I certainly intend to buy them again, you are just "covered" whatever happens.
@TheTallRaver
@TheTallRaver Жыл бұрын
You’re doing a great service for us all! Thank you!!👍👍
@energitrimmeren
@energitrimmeren Жыл бұрын
Great analyses. Thank You. I’d love to see a comparison when 1/2 used and with 3 mm left. Wonder if the difference is similar or off scale for either type.
@Jabber-ig3iw
@Jabber-ig3iw Жыл бұрын
Just coming up for my 3rd winter in a European country that mandates winter tyres from mid November to mid March, I opted for all seasons because having 2 sets seemed lots of faff and added costs. No regrets so far, I’ve experienced so little snow that I’ve not needed good snow performance but the cold wet performance is great, during summer I’ve had no issues although it’s obvious the performance is not up to the standard of a summer tyre.
@RaduB.
@RaduB. Жыл бұрын
I'm considering switching to all seasons myself and this reinforces my opinion that it will be the summer tyres that I'll miss... Thank you!
@pasmas3217
@pasmas3217 Жыл бұрын
@@RaduB. about 8 years ago we went from summer continentals to the original cross climate michellins. i have to say, at least for that switch the michellin delivered better in everything. (the continentals i think were premium ecocontact or something like that, in theory delivering fuel economy. with very conservative driving they gave just 40k km and about 3+ years) the michellins after that went for over 90k km, over 5years and had at least 40% thread remaining, but were changed due to age for an upcoming yearly inspection. the michellin brought a lot more comfort. way better handling, quiter rider on higher speeds way less vibrations (the continentals went through extensive checks for balancing and still above 150 kph too much vibrations after 3 years. the michellins at 5 years old were still perfect at 190kph) actually brought a barely noticeable 2-5% fuel consumption decrease braking performance increased amazingly and they obviously made the car capable of driving in wet or fresh snow (not possible with summers) so dont be afraid of all seasons, if you choose a good tyre that matches your needs and wants it should still deliver sufficiently for you
@RaduB.
@RaduB. Жыл бұрын
@@pasmas3217 Thank you! That is very helpful.
@pasmas3217
@pasmas3217 Жыл бұрын
@@codincoman9019 it was supposed to be the best fuel efficiency premium summer tyre back then and it was supposed to deliver (at least) some performance too. It wasn't a cheap summer eco tyre compared to the beat all season. Also the comparison is just the personal experience (and why we stayed with cross climate ever since) It is not a scientific study comparison. And btw on my personal car, which is about 450kg lighter than the family car, with a bit more power I have some fairly cheap (in theory) performance-like summer tyres. The michellins still deliver equal or better, but that's a comparison I know is not to be made due to the different tiers of tyre quality, and why I didn't put it in the original comment.
@DKP0wers
@DKP0wers Жыл бұрын
Great video. I'd love a video about differences within tyres eg. Michelin Primacy 4 non-S1 vs Primacy 4 S1
@alexmalafeev5344
@alexmalafeev5344 Жыл бұрын
I use the Crossclimate 2 year round in Tahoe, California, with the idea for emergency braking/handling in dry conditions and snow conditions (ie, highway speeds and going around town were other out of control cars might be around) as the two advantages, and knowing that I will try to avoid driving in wet conditions or make sure to extra moderate my speed as when in potentially icy or snowy conditions. Wish they would come in runflat version!
@ThunderGoatz
@ThunderGoatz Жыл бұрын
Thank you for everything you do.
@maxwellkeeling3781
@maxwellkeeling3781 Жыл бұрын
I swapped out my oversized PZ4 * on my 328i Xdrive and put on stock sized Cross Climate 2’s as my fall/winter tire. In Alberta, Canada we get lots of snow and can hit -40, but there are times when it warms up and roads can get icy yet slushy . I sold my X-Ice Xi3’s because they were great for ice handling but horrible for feel and deep snow. The CC2 so far this season have been amazing! Alright on ice but when you live in the country and the roads aren’t always paved, they perform significantly better than the previous X-Ice. Once again, awesome video and I really appreciate what your hard work has done for the consumer!
@martind.5257
@martind.5257 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the insight :-)
@JalotoPT
@JalotoPT Жыл бұрын
Awesome review / explanation. I'm more confident now with the choices made for both my cars, thanks!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@azamlalomala
@azamlalomala Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best channels on KZfaq! So much time invested in testing, measuring, calculating. Science! 😃
@mitevm
@mitevm Жыл бұрын
That saved so much money for so many people on top of reducing waste from old tires. Thank you!
@doug2216
@doug2216 Жыл бұрын
I love my Blizzaks DM-V2 on my '22 Corolla Cross and 1996 Land Cruiser. I live at 8,600' (2,621 m.) in the Colorado mountains. My winter tires go on in late October and come off in mid May. Your videos help me justify the expense of running two sets of tires on two vehicles. I wish more people understood the importance of winter tires and that car manufactures would stop selling AWD as safety/ traction aid.
@maartenk7513
@maartenk7513 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. In the Netherlands we don't have that much winter. I used to buy summer and winter sets for both cars. Now looking for MS tires with good performance in wet and also some good fuel economy. It is just that you don't have to panic in the one or two weeks there may be snow.
@Jushwa
@Jushwa Жыл бұрын
I have had the cross climate 2s on my golf for just over 2 years now and I absolutely love them. I never thought all seasons could be this good. I have x ice for the winter but this year I’m almost debating whether it’s even worth putting them on. I love how the cross climates handle in the dry. The on center feel is better.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
If you see a lot of snow or compacted ice I would definitely make the switch, but for mid winters maybe not!
@stevenvanhaesebrouck6332
@stevenvanhaesebrouck6332 Жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews Belgian winters are mild, snow is rare but not exceptional so very happy with CrossClimate 2s on my Tesla 3 LR.
@marcvalme7732
@marcvalme7732 Жыл бұрын
Please start a Patreon! I understand the awkwardness of it. But I would love to see more frequent testing. Especially expensive test like wear. I would absolutely contribute, perhaps others might too.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I've actually been considering that recently, I setup thanks on youtube and started the youtube version of patron but it's not a nice system so gave up. I'll look into it over xmas
@YSN
@YSN Жыл бұрын
Really excited for the Michelin tire comparison. Also, have you ever considered comparing studless winter tires to studdable (but unstudded) winter tires? Here in southern Ontario, Canada, studded tires are not allowed, like in a lot of places, but studdable tires are still sold here and often are reasonably priced. For example the General Altimax Artic 12 is a studdable winter tire that is known to be a good value winter tire and is run by a lot of people without studs. But I've always wondered how it and others like it compare to studless winter tires, since every test I see about studdable tires never run them without studs.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
I'm in discussions to do the studdable test next year :)
@dcskater180
@dcskater180 Жыл бұрын
Completely new to winter weather as I moved to Stuttgart from the SE of US. I ended up with Cup2s for summer and the Hankook kinergy 4s for winter. I was struggling with a trip to Tuscany in november that would be mostly warm but return at over 2000m in the Alps. Ill see on my first ski trip how the 4s hankooks hold up but seems like they are up near the worse winter tires in snow and allow flexibility for a warm spring since going back to Cup2s is a commitment to warm weather.
@Jeo-What
@Jeo-What Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review and reviews from other sources. Looking forward to the review on the Micheline vs Micheline vs Micheline vs Micheline 👍
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
:D
@buymearocket
@buymearocket Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great overview, really helpful for everyone indeed! In Ukraine with rapid temperature changes, wet, snow, ice, melting hot summer, bumps and all the stuff I prefer to have both winter and summer, by default. Now I am considering switch to all season tire. And what about these days of range +5*C -5*C, what type is optimal? All season?
@jcanada5549
@jcanada5549 Жыл бұрын
These videos are great! I hope you do the Nokian Outpost AT and APT and compare to other all weather/AT tires. Keep up the great work!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Working on this with Nokian :)
@cassiohui
@cassiohui Жыл бұрын
brilliant video but even more looking forward to the michelin test you mentioned at 2:00
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
It's half edited, working on it now :)
@axiom1652
@axiom1652 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for this awesome video, keep going ;-) I would also love to see some more content as e.g. what is the impact when you mount your tires against their rotation direction - always see cars on parking spaces where one can see people are doing that.... or why e.g. tires should not be used when the rubber is older than 5 years and show a comparison of the same model one fressh and one not used but 5 years old 🙂
@aroundomaha
@aroundomaha Жыл бұрын
Very useful analysis and information. Awesome content as usual!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@909shiko
@909shiko Жыл бұрын
Excellent review, thanks. Keep it up. You help people make the right choice. At least to me. Your subscriber over the past couple of years, I recommend the channel to all my friends. Thanks again.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@Ficon
@Ficon Жыл бұрын
Another outstanding analysis, thank you.
@Haramer
@Haramer Жыл бұрын
I’m super excited for your upcoming Michelin video. I run PS4S tires during the summer for my BMW and I run x-ice snow in the winter. My wife has the crossclimate 2s and we’re curious how all of these compare! Super excited to see that video :)
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
It's really interesting data!
@zozepetas
@zozepetas Жыл бұрын
wow you rock, amazing ! Definitely a must watch. Living in greece, no snow in my area but rains a lot and I am going a lot for skiing even in greece or Austria and when it snows it snows, roads not the best in GR and not so fast on cleaning them. Not so big difference between winter and all season on dry/wet. Especially wet. I think for the 2 months I need a winter behavior tyre I will go with a pure winter and not all season but I am tempted for the cross 2
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
I use the CC2 as a winter tyre at the moment...
@fredvallenet
@fredvallenet Жыл бұрын
Your reviews are excellent and your English is very clear for non native. I am a big fan. Following your reviews I just ordered a set of Hankook Kinergy 4s2 for our Ford Puma in 215/55R17 size. I found the Hankooks were the best price quality ratio. The Michelin ar just too expensive and prices have gone up in the recent months! We'll keep them all year round. We leave in the South of France on the sea side but just an hour away from the southern Alps and the first ski resorts. We travel from time to time to the central mountain district. So mild climate and occasional snow. I believe all season+ a set of snow chains for extreme conditions is the way to go. A compilation of long term user reviews would also be great. Keep the reviews coming.
@W0o0dy
@W0o0dy Жыл бұрын
@TyreReviews: after watching this video I thought a filter on "my climate" and "car use" would be an excellent addition to the website. So if you live in the UK you can select "mild" (unless the north of Scotland) and car use could be "family" or "business" or "sporty", "average", "eco".. and tyres that score high on the selection show up near the top.
@mvman4122
@mvman4122 Жыл бұрын
From a previous tire comparison you did, I chose Hankook Kinergy 4S2’s. WOW!!!! I’ve got a second Subaru arriving next week and will replace its OEM tires with the 4S2’s. Appreciate your channel!!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Have you had them in the snow yet? So much fun!
@mvman4122
@mvman4122 Жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews Yes! Here in North Idaho, snow has arrived. They are very “sure footed”!
@user-hn1ph6ry8l
@user-hn1ph6ry8l Жыл бұрын
A lot of interesting data, thanks for share. And in case - Cross Climate + has another one very safety important thing - these tires just ignore wheel track on moderate road. On classical summer tires its huge problem - handle car at hight speed when you change line or ahead of fast truck and so on.
@nornibres
@nornibres Жыл бұрын
Changing tires over is a pita, but your conclusion makes sense. Guess I'll keep 2 sets of rims and tires, although I was thinking the cross climate 2 would be a good compromise.
@LukaszGorzelak
@LukaszGorzelak Жыл бұрын
Great review. I’m actually driving on Conti WinterContactTS 870 P nad they are just great. Handling, noise and comfort are absolutly great. I recommended this tires.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Great tyre!
@colla555
@colla555 4 ай бұрын
So much valuable Information here! My takeaway message is, in southern Germany, it makes sense to get an all-season tyre for the winter months instead of winter tyres (if your new car was already delivered on summer tyres during spring/summer) because they seem to be better in the dry and still good wet compared to winter tyres.
@Zyzzyx42
@Zyzzyx42 Жыл бұрын
More confirmation that the Cross Climate is the tire for me, and has been working great the last few years. Living inland in the NW USA, we don't see much rain at all. We go from stupid hot summer to cold winter with occasional snow/ice. Its good to know that the Michelin CC isn't the best in the rain, that lets me temper my driving a bit there. But having the dry performance with the occasional snow needs... love it. Currently have them on two of three vehicles. Related to that, how about a testing of all-weather and snow for truck/suv sizes? I have the CC on our RAM Promaster (same as Fiat Ducato), and love it there. Curious if the brand differences show up similarly in that tire market as the passenger vehicles.
@mylesgray3470
@mylesgray3470 Жыл бұрын
I like the Cross Climate also and happy to see the results. Not a good Seattle tire due to rain braking but I’ve since moved to Salt lake and it’s ideal for this climate.
@jasonashley9853
@jasonashley9853 Жыл бұрын
CC would be great for me but I wear tires fast and I hear the CC wears quickly. I would probably get a year and a few months out of them. I'm leaning towards Bridgestone Weatherpeak. It's in the negatives F here today. It's supposed to be 55 degrees F on 1/23. Still got Viking Contact on my car. 8,000 miles roughly with 6/32 left.
@tadasstrikauskas1205
@tadasstrikauskas1205 Жыл бұрын
Love your comments and education. Thanks a. Lottle
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
thank you for watching :D
@mantiscoregaming6699
@mantiscoregaming6699 Жыл бұрын
In Canada, we've created a new class of witerized tires. We call them all weather. We still have all season tires, but all weather tires are essentially all terrain tires that are rated for winters. Since I work at Canadian Tire, I have access to alot of tires. Personally I prefer the CT brand of all weather tires
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication Жыл бұрын
I've suggested my mom to put the allmighty Hankook 4s2 on 18" on her MB CLA also, they handle perfectly
@davidkilburn9452
@davidkilburn9452 Жыл бұрын
Hi! As a former motoring writer, I can really appreciate your work and I have long followed your reviews and taken your advice several times. So, based upon what you say here, I'm considering the Hankook Kinergy 4S2, over the Hankook i Cept RS3. I live in Budapest and we no longer get much snow, so rain, occasional ice and dry conditions are the norm. I cannot find a direct comparison between the two Hankook stable-mates but they both do well in the wet and, I am assuming that the all-season will be a step up in the wet, as your testing seems to indicate. Have you ever tested them back to back, yourself? Thanks again!
@PatDuch58
@PatDuch58 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video... as usually... Many thanks.
@richardsmith5249
@richardsmith5249 Жыл бұрын
I replaced a set of assorted shonky budget tyres with premium all season tyres a couple of weeks ago. I'm in Scotland. It's mid-November. It's 15°C out there. Sigh.
@NJRD977
@NJRD977 Жыл бұрын
After the last two winters where I made the change to all seasons and except for a very cold April/May, probably would have been better off on my Pilot 4 summer tyres due to the high average temps. This year I am faced with a dilemma as my old conti all seasons need replacing, do I stick with the Pilot 5 summer tyres hoping for a mild winter or do I purchase a new set of all seasons for the winter. The law of sod says that sticking with the summer tyres will see a cold winter this year in the UK and me cursing my decision
@mcdon2401
@mcdon2401 Жыл бұрын
I'm out in the countryside in Scotland, and the council usually chooses not to bother with little things like ploughing the street or putting down salt (and only in the last few years have they even installed any salt bins, the rest of the time it was supply your own materials and effort) so I just stick with the all seasons. I'll take the slight hit in performance during the good weather for always being able to get home in the bad.
@richardsmith5249
@richardsmith5249 Жыл бұрын
@@mcdon2401 I usually run all seasons as standard, but I just got the car recently. It's just typical, you prepare for winter and it warms up. It's kinda weird because it's warm and windy but with a really gloomy overcast. I was out on the bike just now, and expecting it to start raining at any moment. I suppose it'll be blizzards next week.
@ragweedmakesmesneeze
@ragweedmakesmesneeze Жыл бұрын
I love the Vredenstein Quatrac Pros on my 2005 Subaru Outback. I wanted to get the top rated Cross Climate2s, but they did(do?) not make them in my car's size in the U.S. Now that I've experienced the Quatrac Pros superior wet braking and handling first hand, I would buy them again. I'm glad to see that the test results confirm my "seat of the pants" feeling about these tires. And since I live and drive in areas where there's not too often heavy snow/ice, they are perfect for my more mild wintry conditions. With the bonus that during heavy summer rains the car handles brilliantly. Also they are pretty cushy for highway cruising in the standard 16 inch size that my car requires. That said, you can feel the squishy sidewalls in hard cornering and that took a few drives to get used to, and I lost about 1 mpg in fuel mileage over the all seasons I had on before. But, that's not why I bought these tires. I'll gladly sacrifice a bit of mileage and dry weather at the limits handling for secure foul weather performance.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Glad you're getting on with them :)
@buttonsangel3074
@buttonsangel3074 Жыл бұрын
I'm with you Marc. In the dry, I just don't push the car - I'm very far "inside the performance envelope" of any tire, all the time (barring emergencies, etc). Normal driving in the wet is a different story; I spend much more time closer to the traction limits - so that's where I want the extra "cushion". In snow/ice, "normal driving" is everyone very nearly at the traction limit, all the time. But fortunately I don't see snow in my area. The Quatracs are tops on my list, when the time comes.
@arifisik
@arifisik Жыл бұрын
Love your videos! It would be great to see a comparison between all-weather and winter performance tires, something like Crossclimate 2 vs Pilot Alpin 5. Their designs look so different but should perform similarly in ice, snow, and dry at least on paper.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
The Sport Auto test did that, linked in article :)
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
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@arifisik
@arifisik Жыл бұрын
Great, thanks! Wish they used the Alpin 5 instead of LM005 but still gives a pretty good idea. Crossclimate 2 is almost impossible to beat as an overall performer…
@nealewalter
@nealewalter 7 ай бұрын
Coming from Canada I’m used to having winter tires on in the winter. But…, living in Southern Ohio yes we get snow, but we also get wet in the winter. When I replaced my OEM tires (18” wheels) I put performance summer tires on. I have 17” wheels that had Michelin x-ice 3 for 10 years on them. Last fall I replaced them with cross climate 2 for my “winter” tires.
@triktrak_1451
@triktrak_1451 Жыл бұрын
Excellent content. Thank you!
@jonkirkwood469
@jonkirkwood469 Жыл бұрын
I've put ~20,000 miles on Michelin CC2s on a Honda Pilot. For the Mid-Atlantic United States, it's a very good tire. Our winters are too mild for dedicated winter tires. Our snow almost always falls as a wet snow and we rarely go three consecutive days below freezing. It's awful stuff and the CC2s do well enough that I can drive if I must.
@tougedriver8358
@tougedriver8358 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the Nokian Hakka R5 vs the old Nokian R3 and other winter tires please!
@averyj8160
@averyj8160 Жыл бұрын
Would like to some testing on black ice. Dry,wet,snow are good comparison’s but ice is one reason I moved onto all season tyres from summer tyres. Ice is my biggest fear having experienced a near collision with a wall due to ice. Be interested to see how they grip and brake on ice roads. I’m on Goodyear vector 4 seasons 2 at moment and typically not seen any snow yet.
@Physics072
@Physics072 Жыл бұрын
Nothing stops well on wet ice except chains and studs. But would be nice to see how much of a difference it makes.
@reallypantik6283
@reallypantik6283 Жыл бұрын
looking sharp mate
@Edd5hott79
@Edd5hott79 Жыл бұрын
Just had my pickup fitted with crossclimate SUV to go with the crossclimate 2s fitted to our other car. Fantastic tyres.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Nice pairing :)
@amoghavarshamurthy
@amoghavarshamurthy Жыл бұрын
My god man. You have those tongue twisters down!! @9:50 Superb video. Very helpful channel overall. I am from India and really regret the lack of quality tyre reviews in the Indian market. Though we don't have as much of difference in temperatures and seasons as in the west.
@simonbradshaw3708
@simonbradshaw3708 Жыл бұрын
I have two BMW's 5 & 7 series both on 18inch alloys. I am in the UK and currently swap over to winter tyres in November as they are run flats. What we need are some all season run flat tyres.
@Elite4all
@Elite4all Жыл бұрын
Really need this chanel in my life eheheh...subbed and like 👍
@riccardomaestroni6147
@riccardomaestroni6147 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to watch a direct comparison between: MICHELINE Cross Climate 2 and GOODYEAR Vector Gen-3.
@AlsPaladin
@AlsPaladin Жыл бұрын
great video, thanks!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@sirjenkins7442
@sirjenkins7442 9 ай бұрын
I'll probably get a set of CrossClimate2s for my new SUV and keep them on all year. Seem to be good enough to handle almost any situation.
@jeremychris7906
@jeremychris7906 6 ай бұрын
Probably the best all season tire . Just take it easy on the wet only down side is wet handling . Braking in the wet is actually good just gotta watch those turns .
@CaptHollister
@CaptHollister Жыл бұрын
In Canada, we use the term all weather to distinguish tires that are usable year-round, but which carry the mountain/snowflake symbol and are homologated for winter use in provinces where the use of certified winter tires is legally required for parts of the year. These are in opposition to so-called "all-season" tires which some manufacturers still sell and are often standard equipment on new cars. These tires are not certified for winter use and are usually very, very, mediocre in wintry conditions.
@focus550
@focus550 Жыл бұрын
I was needing to replace my Winter tyres this year and looked at All Season options. But the price is essentially the same as a dedicated Winter tyre, & with more compromise in the season i'm using them for. So logic dictated buying a Winter tyre is the best option. My Conti WinterContacts have lasted over 25k miles over the past 4 years (still with 4+mm of tread). I only use them between Nov/Dec - Feb/March time when the avg temp is below 7degrees to prevent them overheating and wearing down quicker.
@k0zzu21
@k0zzu21 Жыл бұрын
@@Jabber-ig3iw that's a false comparison. It's 2 sets of all-season vs summer + winter set. You need two sets of rims and storage obviously but you get most of it back when you sell them after not needed anymore.
@k-dog7013
@k-dog7013 Жыл бұрын
Do you think you could do an updated test of all season vs. all terrain tires? There’s some new all terrain tires in the market like the Falken Wildpeak that are supposed to be much more well rounded and I’m trying to choose between that and another set of Crossclimate 2s for my car since I go on some rough trails, but all I can do is indirectly compare them through different tire rack tests.
@CaptainDangeax
@CaptainDangeax Жыл бұрын
Living in Brittany, the weather is close to southern UK, although a bit warmer. Crossclimate were my choice on my previous Peugeot 5008 and 207SW. For mu current 308-II, il will consider Hankook Kinergy 4S2
@lgunderso2117
@lgunderso2117 Жыл бұрын
YES!!!! We’ve been waiting for this video!!!!
@lgunderso2117
@lgunderso2117 Жыл бұрын
@2:07 dude that’s every tire nerd’s dream video right there, can’t wait for it!!!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Hopefully next week :)
@04smallmj
@04smallmj Жыл бұрын
I'm interested to see what the new Nexen N blue 4season 2 will be like in tests. I haven't seen it for sale in the UK yet.
@S.I.R.O.K.
@S.I.R.O.K. 6 ай бұрын
Mate, absolutely love your videos. Thank you for what you do. I do however have one question or request. I wanted to get the blizzark tires for my winter setup here in the North East. Currently own and daily a 2021 m340i xdrive. I live in NYC but spend a lot of days driving for ski trips whenever I see a snow storm coming. Long story short, 80% of my driving is in cold wet NYC and 20% is in the mountains with plenty of snow. It is my only car and although most will tell me I should just stick to all seasons for winter, I really do see some extreme weather when I chase the snow storms and having winter tires gives me peace of mind. The concern is, I was told that the blizzarks, as well as most winter tires have a terrible degradation rate if not driven in snow. The little grooves and slices in the tires very quickly wear off after just 5k miles and they essentially turn into an All-season. 5k miles is quiet a scary low number. That doesn't even support my driving from late November to early March. Do you have any data on tire degradation on winter tires that you can share with us? It would be very difficult for me to justify a $1k purchase for winter tires if they only last 1 winter. Thank you.
@ianparish7473
@ianparish7473 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always fella! 👍🏻
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@Mich666Mich
@Mich666Mich Жыл бұрын
Can we get a comparison of low rolling resistance tires? Hankook ION S, Michelin E-Primacy, Pirelli Powergy etc. please.
@Pawer8
@Pawer8 Жыл бұрын
Finally! Thanks.I change tyres for winter and summer. But living in the uk it may be best to use an all season during winter like you said. After researching for a month i think the a005 is the best for me.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Fantastic tyre for the UK, just not the best in wear
@Pawer8
@Pawer8 Жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews not a problem. Swapping tyres I had to change tyres due to age not wear.
@vstolpner
@vstolpner Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review. It would be great to see a recommendation for a great 3 season tire with a moderate winter (i.e. a fall/winter/spring tire to accompany a dedicated summer set of tires). It's something I'm looking at now - a tire that will be great in the dry and wet (we get lots of rain), but will also be able to handle a trip up a ski mountain without breaking a sweat. Running out my WS80's and would like better dry and wet grip without sacrificing too much in the snow.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
You're asking the impossible :) But the CC2 might be worth looking into.
@vstolpner
@vstolpner Жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews that's what I was thinking, but more than 50% of the time is going to be driving in the rain.... Isn't the CC2 not so great in the wet?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
@@vstolpner You are correct, but if you're looking for something close in the snow it's the best choice, and it's still the best in the dry.
@jedd1004
@jedd1004 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, just curious if , other than cost, there is a benefit to running a smaller rim with a narrower snow tire versus the larger tire, example a 235/40-19 winter versus a 215/55-17 winter on the same car (obviously if it will clear the brakes). Would the handling and braking in snow and ice be better with the narrower tire with more sidewall? Thank you.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
These days there's very little difference in most conditions, however saving your nice 19" wheels would be a bonus
@krupadrum
@krupadrum Жыл бұрын
Outstanding thankyou 👍
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
thank you :)
@GnarlsGnarlington
@GnarlsGnarlington Жыл бұрын
I have Michelin Premier A/S tires and got down a mountain from Tahoe to Bishop.
@zoran123456
@zoran123456 Жыл бұрын
I just bought Vredestein Quatrac Pro, basically I needed to choose between great performance in rain/ok performance in snow (Vredestein) and ok performance in rain/great performance in snow (Michelin). As I don't leave in a very snowy climate but rainy instead, Vredestein is a no brainer.
@npaul4171
@npaul4171 Жыл бұрын
Kind of sad not to see any Nokian products in the comparison. I'm currently running the WR G4 and its winter performance has been superb--not just with respect to snow, but also bitter cold. In -15 C temps, it's dry handling is mostly unchanged from how it handles above freezing, whereas most all seasons would have long hardened up. It's definitely a pretty strongly winter-biased tire, but, in my situation, that works well. Its performance in rain and cold rain is also solid. My back isn't what it used to be and running two sets of tires is a bit more difficult than it was when I was a bit younger.
@eskobara
@eskobara Жыл бұрын
I'm in PNW where snow happens once or twice. but wanna go to ski resort early in the morning after heavy snowfall. Still debating if CC2 would be enough for occasional ski trips. Looking forward to CC2/xIce comparasion!
@MrTmarc1
@MrTmarc1 Жыл бұрын
It’s enough. I’ve got cc2s on my AWD Mazda and the tires have been amazing in the snow
@chrisp.5272
@chrisp.5272 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’m sure the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4’s would be fine as well. AWD makes a big difference.
@edysinsimon8646
@edysinsimon8646 Жыл бұрын
I have the cross climate 2 on my vehicle right now. I don't need a dedicated snow/studded tire anymore.
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