UAL 328 UPDATE Fan Blade Failure B777-200 22 Feb 2021

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@BaumannJA
@BaumannJA 3 жыл бұрын
"A white Fart in the wind" Has to be one of the best Aviation illustrations I have EVER heard! Thanks Juan. You are the Best...
@1701_FyldeFlyer
@1701_FyldeFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Juan said a 'light' fart in the wind!?
@Eric_the_Hiking
@Eric_the_Hiking 3 жыл бұрын
Fart in the wind All we are is fart in the wind
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer 3 жыл бұрын
I think he's getting mighty personal with that comment!
@tonytheantony
@tonytheantony 3 жыл бұрын
...and no white farts in the wind when you come to London! 🇬🇧🛬✈️
@patrickhanna2659
@patrickhanna2659 3 жыл бұрын
@@Eric_the_Hiking on the way to Kansas!😂
@zidoocfi
@zidoocfi 3 жыл бұрын
Loved how big your smile became when you said that first officers tend to make better landings anyway.
@mannypuerta5086
@mannypuerta5086 3 жыл бұрын
So I guess he is admitting his landings will deteriorate when he makes captain. Having been there, I call baloney on the concept.
@Sarconthewolf
@Sarconthewolf 3 жыл бұрын
@@mannypuerta5086 I think he was joking that's why he smiled. Giving a dig to captains.
@mikesnowable
@mikesnowable 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought that as well. Until I made Captain.
@mannypuerta5086
@mannypuerta5086 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikesnowable Funny how that works.😎
@farayidarlingtonchaparadza20
@farayidarlingtonchaparadza20 3 жыл бұрын
An element of truth there since FO's do most of the landings while captains handle comms in most airline SOP's anyways.
@FlyAVersatran
@FlyAVersatran 3 жыл бұрын
So good! I'm a DEN native and had never seen your channel until a friend had an engine front ring frisbee into his neighbor's yard... In my past, I worked at AAPL in Developer Technical Support and would have absolutely killed to have such an employee who could describe a situation in rigorous detail, authority, prowess and finesse... WITHOUT BEING SNARKY. Really really good. All your background. All your training. Worth it. Thank you. You've got a new subscriber.
@williammaterna2100
@williammaterna2100 3 жыл бұрын
Now you know why even Aussie old "Farts" dig weightless.
@christopherbattles1678
@christopherbattles1678 3 жыл бұрын
So let's just remember that the fan cowling is not a structural part of the aircraft. The containment shroud held and prevented the separated fan blade from flying through the airframe and potentially turning an emergency into a catastrophe. The PW engine failure containment design did its job, and everyone walked away. Yes, people on the ground could have been hit by the falling debris, and that is something that the NTSB will surely take up, but that's a whole lot less debris than an entire airliner.
@bindingcurve
@bindingcurve 3 жыл бұрын
The issue is if a inspection should had detected defects in the blade before falure.
@youngtimer964
@youngtimer964 3 жыл бұрын
@@bindingcurve just a note - ual 232 inspection came back on United vs engine mfg (GE)
@dalenulik4564
@dalenulik4564 3 жыл бұрын
@@bindingcurve wichita enginneers do the cowl designs, not P&W. for all 777's.
@dalenulik4564
@dalenulik4564 3 жыл бұрын
Wichita engineers design these cowls, and when I was at Boeing up to 2005 were all built in Wichita, including GE & Rolls!
@highpointsights
@highpointsights 2 жыл бұрын
There Trent 900 motor that failed on the quantas flight was labeled "uncontained" Cost RR a billion. Was it design failure or something else?
@localcrew
@localcrew 3 жыл бұрын
I like that smile when you said you were going to London. Glad you’re back in the saddle.
@bigbadjohn10
@bigbadjohn10 3 жыл бұрын
It is a shame London is still in full lockdown! But welcome when you arrive.
@tpelton
@tpelton 3 жыл бұрын
can we get a round of applause for how well these planes hold together and get everyone on the ground when we have these incidents. it's pretty damned amazing i think, considering the size and power of these engines, and the forces in effect when they go ka-blooey !
@uzaiyaro
@uzaiyaro 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly most great engineering (and professional training, for that matter) is written in blood. I don't want to say it's a necessary part of how good things are today, but I will say that, in general, engineers and those responsible for training today's professionals, do try to learn lessons so that those unfortunate ones did not die in vain.
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 3 жыл бұрын
As an Aussie, any engine failure incident like this always reminds me of QANTAS Flight 32. Richard de Crespigny is something of a personal hero of mine along with the other aircrew and two check captains also on board that day, and the crew of United 328 (and tower/ATC personnel) displayed similar levels of professional conduct in this case. The failure mode of the engine in Flight 32's case bears mentioning in respect of your comment about "how well these planes hold together" (from Wikipedia): "After holding for almost two hours to assess the situation, the aircraft made a successful emergency landing at Changi. No injuries occurred to the passengers, crew, or people on the ground, despite debris from the aircraft falling onto houses in Batam.[1] On inspection, a turbine disc in the aircraft's number-two engine (on the port side nearest the fuselage) was found to have disintegrated, causing extensive damage to the nacelle, wing, fuel system, landing gear, flight controls, and engine controls, and a fire in a fuel tank that self-extinguished."
@natural-born_pilot
@natural-born_pilot 3 жыл бұрын
Your so right and I appreciate you bringing that up Tony. With everything today that goes Tango Uniform you’ll hear nothing but negative reports by media and later brought up by the public and Boeing has had more than its share. I have no problem with that as long as it’s factual but really wish it was balanced and fair by presenting any and all positive points concerning the incident. Thank you from a retired McDonnell Douglas Boeing employee.
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies 3 жыл бұрын
@@uzaiyaro Same thing can be said about automotive industry and related highway infrastructure. A lot of areas of life now that I think on it.
@hyime69
@hyime69 3 жыл бұрын
Tony Yes the people who Design and Maintain these Aircraft all need a Big Pat on the Back as if through the years of testing and evaluation and Trend monitoring of Engines and systems. The end result with all that happened the Aircrew did a great job the other Airport staff and Fire rescue all did what was needed and Thankfully the end result was a Safe Landing and no one Killed
@whtfsh765
@whtfsh765 3 жыл бұрын
I was the first officer on a 777-200 from Tokyo to Houston in October of 2004. We had to shut down the #2 engine due to severe oil loss and high oil temp. I was the pilot flying on that leg. We had 3 pilots, so one of us was making sure our fuel balance remained within limits. We had about 30 minutes to our alternate in Cold Bay, Alaska, so we decided to dump fuel down to max landing weight on the way there. Drift down to FL230, and deviation off the oceanic track was the first priority after shutting down the engine. We used the autopilot down to about 200 feet, at which time I elected to manually land the aircraft. Flaps 20 Ref speed was about 155 kts, which looks very fast from the cockpit, especially at night. The runway was 10000 ft. in length so there was no problem getting the aircraft stopped. On landing we immediately quadrupled the population of Cold Bay.
@leecowell8165
@leecowell8165 3 жыл бұрын
I can see that from google earth! nobody there!
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 3 жыл бұрын
Looking out and seeing that burning engine would really scare me. The things I learn about airliner design and airline safety procedures from watching your videos makes me feel safer. Excellent work as always.
@lizj5740
@lizj5740 3 жыл бұрын
I liked your video on this topic, AgentJayZ.
@jcak552
@jcak552 3 жыл бұрын
Great video AgentZ Thanks...
@iammacnathan5350
@iammacnathan5350 3 жыл бұрын
After watching Juan, I jump over to AgentJayZ as he's a jet engine mechanic with decades of experience. Nice hear another factual input on the engine failure scenario. Great video AgentJayz!
@persistentwind
@persistentwind 3 жыл бұрын
Hey J, does it still count as a contained failure when the main fan blade decides to depart through the front of the engine? in terms of containment I just dont know how to call that one, on one hand the system for the engine performed as expected, on the other hand a fan blade that could potentially end up going through the fuselage doesnt seem much better!?!
@carnie2_917
@carnie2_917 3 жыл бұрын
A burning engine is good, you should start worrying when the engine has a flameout.
@shooter2055
@shooter2055 3 жыл бұрын
RE fuel dump: "Let's not add fuel to that barbecue!" --fell out of my chair laughing. Gratitude. I needed that.
@VMCAviationVideos
@VMCAviationVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, it was a good point
@njwithers
@njwithers 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s not add fuel to that fart?
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 3 жыл бұрын
It was an amusing way of making the point, and to be honest I never really considered the fact that a fuel dump in an engine emergency situation could very easily become an (unintended) dump'n'burn. Very cool when intentionally performed by an F-111 (I'm old enough to have seen it in person! RIP the RAAF Pigs) but certainly not ideal for an airliner in an engine-out. The directive seems obvious in retrospect. :)
@tobiaswichert4843
@tobiaswichert4843 3 жыл бұрын
When he said that, my first thought was "Concorde"...
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane 3 жыл бұрын
@@sixstringedthing F111's was the first thing that came to mind!
@simonchaddock4274
@simonchaddock4274 3 жыл бұрын
"The First Officer usually can land better anyway." Spoken like a true First Officer! Juan. As usual a very informative summary of what actually failed, the sequence of the destruction and the consequences for the plane, crew & passengers. I think you neatly identified a weak point in the engine certification process for fan blade failure. The damage caused if the blade leaves the disk going forward and the effect on the fire suppression system if the aerodynamic cowling is lost. Brilliant.
@aaronbugaiski2487
@aaronbugaiski2487 3 жыл бұрын
He is absolutely correct on the test stand runs they do to certify engines. I build the C ducts and inlets for ground testing and they are built like tanks compared to the actual cowlings used on aircraft. Ground test units can easily contain an event like that.
@v1rotait23
@v1rotait23 3 жыл бұрын
@Rich Wightman, that made me laugh. Very funny.
@markevans2294
@markevans2294 3 жыл бұрын
@@aaronbugaiski2487 It's also unclear if the test stand supports the engine in the same way (and angle) which would apply when it's on the wing of an aircraft. Certainly, videos of tests don't appear to show anything like the level of vibration apparent from passenger videos of damaged windmilling engines.
@joemehere1151
@joemehere1151 3 жыл бұрын
I would fly with you any day Juan! Nice, instructive, competent and intelligent updates! Thank you. KZfaq, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, STOP DEMONETIZING THIS CHANNEL!
@iammacnathan5350
@iammacnathan5350 3 жыл бұрын
After watching Juan, I jump over to AgentJayZ as he's a jet engine mechanic with decades of experience. Nice hear another factual input on the engine failure scenario. Great video AgentJayz!
@Mike44460
@Mike44460 3 жыл бұрын
Ever wonder why we never see Juan on a newscast? It is because his explanation would so overwhelm the talking heads they would surely be at a loss for words, finally. As I have requested before, Juan I want to go flying with you. Excellent!
@kennypool
@kennypool 3 жыл бұрын
Also because he would be fired faster than you can say fasten your seat belts.
@Sarconthewolf
@Sarconthewolf 3 жыл бұрын
Well also, the news media would want to sensationalize it to get views. They don't want info, they want panic.
@suspicionofdeceit
@suspicionofdeceit 3 жыл бұрын
They just want quick sensationalist blurbs.
@quantumac
@quantumac 3 жыл бұрын
The mainstream media would also probably limit Juan (or any expert) to a couple of minutes at most. That's not enough time for those of us who have questions the news anchors aren't "clued in" enough to ask.
@donnafromnyc
@donnafromnyc 3 жыл бұрын
John Nance was always the go to guy (ex Braniff, USAFR) but now less frequently. He is up there in age and has made healthcare and fiction writing his wheelhouse. You really need retired pilots to do this commentary as free of corporate restraints.
@danielpearson6306
@danielpearson6306 3 жыл бұрын
The talking heads on the networks makes every dramatic to sell their news to the idiots watching. Juan's channel with his knowledge and research fills in gapes without speculation. Thanks Juan.
@azhuntssss7628
@azhuntssss7628 3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly said! Juan is the man!
@HighSpeedNoDrag
@HighSpeedNoDrag 3 жыл бұрын
Amen and Then Some.
@EASTSIDERIDER707
@EASTSIDERIDER707 3 жыл бұрын
I came here when looking for accurate information when Oroville Dam just upstream from me was in jeopardy of failure. Juan is consistently a good source of information.
@ginvr
@ginvr 3 жыл бұрын
Straight down the line, no spin, no bias. one of my few trusted sources
@KurtisCardwell
@KurtisCardwell 3 жыл бұрын
The best! Thank you
@bertblankenstein3738
@bertblankenstein3738 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the design and contingency planning to allow the plane to continue under one engine. Very thorough update, thank you.
@highbypass
@highbypass 3 жыл бұрын
GE90 driver myself, they make great blades! Fan blade separations don't usually result in engine fires. I'm guessing the smaller broken blade or parts of it were ingested through the compression stages causing oil to leak. It will be interesting to read the full engineering report when published. We had a case on take-off whereby a blade separated and flew forwards and out of the intake, bounced off the runway moving sideways and then embedded itself in the other engines nacelle. Take-off was rejected. Fan blade separations on test rigs don't replicate real world results!
@highpointsights
@highpointsights 2 жыл бұрын
Has the engineering report been published. I'm a bit behind the curve on this one?!
@highpointsights
@highpointsights 2 жыл бұрын
Are the Pratt and Whitney engines made with composite matrix material as I believe the G90 motors are?
@gwiyomikim5988
@gwiyomikim5988 3 жыл бұрын
19:32 The smile of a man going to work when he truly loves his job!. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@FrostySumo
@FrostySumo 3 жыл бұрын
"White fart in the wind" is one of the reasons this channel is awesome
@kennypool
@kennypool 3 жыл бұрын
I always eat a can of beans the day before i watch.
@tonyt73
@tonyt73 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! 🤣
@johnemerson1363
@johnemerson1363 3 жыл бұрын
I had to think for a second what he meant. Yes, awesome.
@88SC
@88SC 3 жыл бұрын
Sung to the tune of “Silver Wings”.
@chuckduzzie8529
@chuckduzzie8529 3 жыл бұрын
Caught that too..... 🧐
@7heRedBaron
@7heRedBaron 3 жыл бұрын
“and I’ve done this before.” Sums up everything about this channel.
@calpilot7
@calpilot7 3 жыл бұрын
Kudos to the United crew. Superior airmanship skills. Nicely done United.
@gabrielle-AV-n-PFloyd
@gabrielle-AV-n-PFloyd 10 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@tedp7228
@tedp7228 3 жыл бұрын
An intelligent person can explain complex topics to laymen. Thanks again! Also, your complements to the United crew did not go unnoticed. You're a true professional Juan.
@thomaswhite935
@thomaswhite935 3 жыл бұрын
I love the comment earlier... "We have an un-contained media event!" What a roller coaster ride. Thanks for keeping your feet in reality Juan.
@i-love-space390
@i-love-space390 3 жыл бұрын
You are excellent at explaining the subtleties of flying airliners. Here you did a great job outling all the planning and thought that goes into preparing for emergencies. I hope every airline Captain is as knowledgable and thoughtful as you.
@rhodium69
@rhodium69 3 жыл бұрын
When you want all the facts and science behind the scenes you let Juan do just that . Truly an experienced pilot who gives honest facts and no hype, thank you Juan.
@utube321piotr
@utube321piotr 3 жыл бұрын
This incident is going to be significant in terms of engineering safety of jet propulsion and management. Great job Juan.
@artiem5262
@artiem5262 3 жыл бұрын
Listen to the person who flies one! Thank you for information and analysis without the drama, and the willingness to say "we don't know."
@brianlopez8855
@brianlopez8855 3 жыл бұрын
After your health scare and then the Covid Lockdown I am so glad to see you back in the air again Juan. Great Channel.
@brianrjclarke
@brianrjclarke 3 жыл бұрын
Juan gives a perfect explanation to the whole thing. Never left wondering what he meant by saying something. Would feel very comfortable with him at the controls. Well done Sir.
@greggb3079
@greggb3079 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh ha, note to self... "do not dump fuel with an engine on fire"... words to live by. As usual Mr. Browne, excellent reporting. Thank you sir.
@Airplane_Willy
@Airplane_Willy 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love how you give a second view of the cameras on the MFD after explaining where they are and what you can see. Dude, you're killing it with your latest videos.
@grantjohnston5817
@grantjohnston5817 3 жыл бұрын
And if you fly 777 s it might kill you!
@BSsss603
@BSsss603 3 жыл бұрын
Everything said and explained, nothing left out and everything is right on. A true professional!! Have a safe trip to LHR!
@Rasscasse
@Rasscasse 3 жыл бұрын
So good to get first-class information from an expert who can walk the walk as well as talk the talk. I always leave this channel wiser than when I arrived. This is a good thing.
@gregknipe8772
@gregknipe8772 3 жыл бұрын
thanks once a gain Juan, for answering questions I did not know to ask, again. I don't fly, I walk, but I love to have my curiosity lit up, and you never let me down.
@markmatthews8429
@markmatthews8429 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping us up to date, its great to get a proper analysis of these incidents. Have a good flight over here to London, stay safe.
@wyomingadventures
@wyomingadventures 3 жыл бұрын
When I hear all the information about how aircraft works it's just amazing technology and engineering! Juan's channel is the best aviation channel on KZfaq. Thank you Juan for explaining in a way we all can understand how it works!
@trryhin
@trryhin 3 жыл бұрын
As a 30 year A&P I can tell you an engine fire extinguishing system is useless without the cowling, and would just be a "white fart in the wind".
@hyime69
@hyime69 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Terry British Engineer here Interesting that the Reverser C Duct was not in place, I would expect the fan cowl to go but the C Duct is a Heavy bit of hardware I also agree the pulling of the Fire Handles cut the fuel off and the Fire extinguisher only made white smoke in the early video I saw I would assume it was the second attempt as per the Crews Emergency SOP's/ FRC as they still had a fire warning that I saw being discharged
@Big.Ron1
@Big.Ron1 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. That is about the size of it.
@mikedenning9261
@mikedenning9261 3 жыл бұрын
I would assume the fire detection loop is part of the cowling and would have departed the airplane with the cowling. I don't think that the none flying pilot would jump up, run back and check on what parts were gone. Running the engine fire checklist is the best way to handle the "Engine Fire" indication. The pieces parts of the fire detection system would not be covered by the media unless someone who was a true expert was reporting on this.
@warmfreeze
@warmfreeze 3 жыл бұрын
they likely pulled the fuel cut off and what you see burning is most of the accessory unit..
@hyime69
@hyime69 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikedenning9261 Yes I would also think the ICAS would show a FIRE WARN Message because the wire has gone Plus also the R/H Pilot can Look rear from his seat if not then Crew would call it in from the Cabin.
@2345allthebest
@2345allthebest 3 жыл бұрын
He makes how it all came apart SO UNDERSTANDABLE ... much appreciated
@rickcline2762
@rickcline2762 3 жыл бұрын
Another great report Juan. Your insights and explanations are the stuff of a true professional. Even though I am a retired corporate pilot with 50 years experience, I still learn something from most of your videos.
@mikemartin7603
@mikemartin7603 3 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel, Man alive what a teacher you would have been, just spot on analysis, explanation and illustration, without talking down to non pilots, respect sir, clear skies and happy landings from a cloudy England, where i believe you are at the moment, stay safe and well and keep it up, good stuff
@gateway8833
@gateway8833 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a retired Crash Fire Rescue Officer, I really like your method of explanations, you know what your talking about. I think I’ll subscribe to your channel.
@josepheller8395
@josepheller8395 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Juan for making it easy for non pilots to understand what happens in these situations.
@df446
@df446 3 жыл бұрын
My wife bristled when you mentioned a "panicked" FA. "WE have the authority to commence evac if we think it's required." "Yes dear, that's not what he meant."
@natural-born_pilot
@natural-born_pilot 3 жыл бұрын
Chill hun your still in charge of the passenger section lol.
@ernestgalvan9037
@ernestgalvan9037 3 жыл бұрын
Captain still has ultimate authority.
@WaltzTangoFoxtrot1
@WaltzTangoFoxtrot1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Juan. You are my Go-To in instances like these. I'm grateful for your knowledge and your ability to give the straight scoop! Thankfully no injuries!
@PendeltonWhiskey
@PendeltonWhiskey 3 жыл бұрын
I want to thank the Pilots and the the crew for getting this plane back on the ground safely. Thank you and congratulations
@tomshelton435
@tomshelton435 3 жыл бұрын
Love this man. He is so factual and unruffled. “while fart in the wind” will be used about our household for days
@Romans--bo7br
@Romans--bo7br 3 жыл бұрын
Tom Shelton.... it's "WHITE - fart in a windstorm" (meaning - Insignificant)..... Not "while - fart in a windstorm".
@sanantoniotonight5569
@sanantoniotonight5569 3 жыл бұрын
Absolute best channel, from an old AF guy still in San Antonio, well done sir!
@billbraun6846
@billbraun6846 3 жыл бұрын
I really love hearing you call into "The Tom Sullivan Show". Brings back memory's of another airline pilot who used to call in back in the 1990's. His name was Jack Birch, a B707 B747 pilot for Pan Am and United. He was a good friend of my dad. Jack loved flying so much that when he got too old to pilot 747's he became a flight engineer. He died of a heart attack in the cockpit of a B747 flying out of Tokyo. You would have loved talking to and flying with Jack.
@medic1120
@medic1120 3 жыл бұрын
Juan, been watching this channel for a year now, you are so good at explaining what you pilots “handle” issues. As a private pilot it’s great to hear how the big guys do it. Keep it up!!
@kkelley85
@kkelley85 3 жыл бұрын
Fire suppression only works with the cowlings closed. When doing maintenance runs with cowling open you are required to have external fire fighting sources.
@takingthescenicroute1610
@takingthescenicroute1610 3 жыл бұрын
Halon farts into the slipstream it is then.
@elosogonzalez8739
@elosogonzalez8739 3 жыл бұрын
The crew did an outstanding job! As usual, so did you Juan! Great information. Your expertise in the aircraft certainly makes it easier for the rest of us to understand. Thank you!
@davidimhoff2118
@davidimhoff2118 3 жыл бұрын
Just a remarkable thing and nobody hurt. I've seen the debris pics and the video from the passengers while it was flying. Just amazing. I am not in the airline industry but I have learned a lot from watching your channel and others. So thank you
@WolfPilot
@WolfPilot 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Juan! Your experience as a commercial type rated pilot adds a ton of depth to the facts being presented.
@davewitter6565
@davewitter6565 3 жыл бұрын
Juan you make good points. All the retired pilots love your channel and the straight forward honest explanations. Well done..
@daniellopez1506
@daniellopez1506 3 жыл бұрын
The moment an aviation incident occurs, especially on the 777, I wonder what Juan thinks. Always the best Sir.
@221340
@221340 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Juan. You continue to amaze me with the depth of your knowledge of subsystems and their interaction with major malfunctions of other systems. Your analysis of this event was spot on.
@wyldbill100
@wyldbill100 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your thoughtful and highly detailed synopsis for all the rest of us. I thoroughly enjoy each of your videos on "aircraft". I was a jet mech./ inspector during my time in the US Navy and saw a lot of "interesting" things. You're talking my lingo!
@JohnWLewis
@JohnWLewis 3 жыл бұрын
8:52 Juan’s vernacular takes the cake: “Were you just creating a white fart in a wind?” !🤣!🤣
@darkcoeficient
@darkcoeficient 3 жыл бұрын
Had to do a double take!
@tomdavis282
@tomdavis282 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was in trouble there for a second trying to eat lunch and laugh at the same time! 😂
@bobroberts2371
@bobroberts2371 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else get the feeling that the Juan was channeling Hank Hill in the first few words of the vid? :+)
@molotov9502
@molotov9502 3 жыл бұрын
More like a "wet fart in the wind"
@turbofanlover
@turbofanlover 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love him. :)
@scootracer
@scootracer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the brilliant update peppered with some great humour, glad we can all laugh and smile about the good outcome.
@yungamurai
@yungamurai 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great update, thank you Juan for all your incredibly informative videos. Also that ending was just too badass... “I’m going to London. See ya there”. You’re too cool man.
@paulcontreras3264
@paulcontreras3264 3 жыл бұрын
Juan Browne you are the man! It doesn't get any better. Having an active Triple 7 pilot provide the analysis of the incident.
@Astro49flyer
@Astro49flyer 3 жыл бұрын
Where would we be without you Juan. We are so fortunate to have someone with your knowledge and presentation skills to give us the straight goods on these aviation(and dam) events. Have a good time in London Juan!
@MrSnout5
@MrSnout5 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever there is an issue with an aircraft, wherever it is in the world, my first choice for information is from the Blancolirio channel. I know that I am going to get first class accurate information, way better than almost any other media outlet. No agenda other than the truth, no embellishments, wild theories, inaccuracies or suppositions from Juan!
@guidospaini7339
@guidospaini7339 3 жыл бұрын
You said my very same words. That's how it is.
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan 3 жыл бұрын
same here, i skip the official news.. and check this channel
@FlukeCypriot
@FlukeCypriot 3 жыл бұрын
Very true.
@susanlong8978
@susanlong8978 3 жыл бұрын
Wish our government was like this..THIS US HOW ITS SUPPOSED TO BE! AMERICA THE WAY IT USED TO BE.!!🇺🇸
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan 3 жыл бұрын
@@susanlong8978 most people have the attantion span of a gnat. If you would get this level detail in the news, most people would switch to something more dumbed down. The problem is that people are too lazy, they forgot how nice it can be to learn.
@filmbluff99
@filmbluff99 3 жыл бұрын
Always good to get your report on an incident. Welcome back to this side of The Pond.😀🇬🇧
@alanmcnamara9155
@alanmcnamara9155 3 жыл бұрын
In the 1970s I worked in engine inspection on the P & W JT9D (747) for South African Airways and we had to do crack detection tests on the (solid) fan blades. We specifically checked in the root of the blade as that was were they were subject to great stress. If I was doing that job at United now I would probably be crapping myself.
@cardbored_
@cardbored_ 3 жыл бұрын
“Were you just creating a white fart in the wind” 😂😂 Guys, we come here for the science. We stay for the laughs.
@DavidTrejo
@DavidTrejo 3 жыл бұрын
@Peter Mortensen ❤
@robjohnson5872
@robjohnson5872 3 жыл бұрын
Great as usual Juan. Great detail on the 777's ability to assist a hurting aircraft - we all feel better after that.
@natural-born_pilot
@natural-born_pilot 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and for me very informative that’s why in these cases when the dung hits the fan I only take your review. As a retired USAF vet who began crewing 1&2 eng fighter aircraft and later as a GIB with hundreds of hours hands on stick time I never have a problem understanding anything you explain. With that I love your in-depth explanations on important matters and appreciate it considering the wide range of knowledge of aircraft and flying your viewers may have. I’m always bothered after watching inaccurate reviews or worse all the erroneous bs all the armchair responses make afterwards allowing others to leave with. Since retirement I’m not nearly as knowledgeable on the latest tech advances and find it so interesting learning them from the clear explanations you provide in your videos. Always enjoy learning from you Juan and especially in this review with your explanation plus photos of the rear mounted cameras looking forward to aid in safe taxi clearance and the rear half of the power plants. Thanks a bunch and hope you have a nice flight to London, take care.
@ralphbernard3908
@ralphbernard3908 3 жыл бұрын
I have been an aircraft mechanic for 7 years, and an aircraft inspector for 27+ years on large commercial aircraft. Thank you for a very professional and common sense based report. I will be very interested in the NTSB final report. We are always learning in the aviation industry. Fortunately there was no loss of life in this case. The adjustments that will be made as a result of what we learn will make flying safer.
@-DC-
@-DC- 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely superb quality content much appreciated 👍
@jas0609
@jas0609 3 жыл бұрын
“I gotta go to work right now. I am going to London.” Nice! ...Thanks for the update Juan! Safe travels! 👍
@fevengr9245
@fevengr9245 3 жыл бұрын
Juan: Hope you see this as there are already a lot of comments. You might not know that the aircraft certification process (airplanes with jet propulsion) assumes that loss of a blade and subsequent vibration from a windmilling engine can occur. You can find the details online from AC (Advisory Circular) 25-24 - Sustained Engine Imbalance. I hope this helps.
@TheKaino10
@TheKaino10 3 жыл бұрын
I could listen to this guy all day and night amazing 👍👍 very very knowledgeable.
@timothycook2917
@timothycook2917 3 жыл бұрын
It was really starting to annoy me when media reports were saying stuff like "the plane was able to land with most of it's engine missing."
@andy-ally
@andy-ally 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, here in Lithuania news channels literally translated "lost an engine" as a physical detachment...
@Graphene_314
@Graphene_314 3 жыл бұрын
Media constantly talks out of its ass.
@gregknipe8772
@gregknipe8772 3 жыл бұрын
ignorance prevails until one is educated. don't blame the media, (Juan is the media too, friend) blame ignorance and lack of curiosity. these two states of mind are very prevalent in our country, related to many many subjects. turn off your TV, you have no complaints.
@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar
@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregknipe8772 Well said, Greg! To add my two American rupees 😆, general (i.e. non-specialized) news outlets have a lot of subjects to cover, and limited resources that need to be allocated to each, and they have to prioritize based on what their audiences want (“if it bleeds, it leads”). This isn’t to excuse bad reporting, but I have some sympathy for the competing forces that news directors and editors have to deal with. That said, I think we’re all grateful for subject matter experts like Juan who are willing to share their knowledge with us!
@COIcultist
@COIcultist 3 жыл бұрын
@@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar No I think the quality of analysis has disappeared if it was ever there. If you have ever seen the news cover a subject you know well they invariably get at least one part of the story wrong. The i's were dotted and the t's crossed by Juan himself when he covered the Toddbrook Reservoir spillway problem. UK media had reported on it for days but had carried out no analysis to find what the problem was.
@joaquinbrunohuetecuevas4
@joaquinbrunohuetecuevas4 3 жыл бұрын
Gracias Juan, thanks so much for giving so much
@davemcdonald9098
@davemcdonald9098 3 жыл бұрын
Great job explaining this subject of failure, and the training of the crew. Also very good lessons on the 777s capabilities i.e. fuel dumping, emergency landings, and flight statistics. Engine fan failure also explained very well.
@curtvote1099
@curtvote1099 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your passion and enthusiasm when explaining these technical details. Very informative as always. Thanks for your time and expertise!
@mattgoldberg8578
@mattgoldberg8578 3 жыл бұрын
Who are the 17 people who disliked this video? What's NOT to like? This was awesome...I'm sure my fellow AvGeeks will agree.
@steveholton4130
@steveholton4130 3 жыл бұрын
Media Execs
@04u2cY
@04u2cY 3 жыл бұрын
@@steveholton4130 come on you took the words right out of my mouth lol.
@VMCAviationVideos
@VMCAviationVideos 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't me 😳
@philnelson7791
@philnelson7791 3 жыл бұрын
17 Captains... Lol
@motor2of7
@motor2of7 3 жыл бұрын
People who don’t like facts and prefer the media narrative
@williamwinsor7376
@williamwinsor7376 3 жыл бұрын
I just turn off the news on a subject when they start rehashing it’s better to wait a little bit and look for better sources. They only think about what’s good for their popularity and beating others. To rail about them is like railing about the rain while it drips down their face. This channel is the best I think.
@kitbailey6963
@kitbailey6963 3 жыл бұрын
With all the negativity going on with this event, I thought I'd share a few positive things. Less we forget, this may have been far far worse. Any aircraft, no matter type manufacture or cost, on take off faces its greatest nemesis, stress. Yes, gravity too, but stress is the be end of end all. A 777 is a huge aircraft in terms of weight, dimensions and mass. This particular 777 had a catastrophic failure of its right engine just after takeoff and still managed to climb out on only one engine. Then it made turns. Again on one engine. Then it navigated back to the airport, landed, taxied on one engine. The pilots are heroes. The passengers are to be commended for remaining calm despite what everyone could visibly see. The crew did a phenomenal job keeping order on board. The aircraft made it back and incase anyone has any doubts, this 777 could've flown on one engine for a very very long time safely. That engine had a catastrophic failure, yet, it remained largely in tact. Yes pieces fell and yet, not one single injury or death. Except for property damage and that can be replaced. The life on board cannot. Nor those on the ground who might have been killed. I consider the 777 too be one of Boeings finest commercial aircraft. Shes big. Shes powerful. Shes gorgeous. Besides the 787, the 777 is my favorite commercial aircraft. Consider the Concorde crash. Yes, it could've been allot worse, but the point is, it wasn't. I think Boeing, United Airlines, the engines manufacture and the pilots and crew deserve a huge huge thanks. As for the root cause. FOD, debris, bird strike on take off, small crack in fan blade. These engines, despite their enormous size and power are still very delicate. Weight is key. So many structural pieces are designed with that in mind. The fan blades are just one component. 🛫🙏🇺🇲
@stevemattison9699
@stevemattison9699 3 жыл бұрын
I am a 38 year A&P mechanic your explanation is right on. You know your stuff.
@keddiewye6517
@keddiewye6517 3 жыл бұрын
“We’re you just creating a white fart in the wind?” Man I love that technical talk! LOL!
@GlennChambers
@GlennChambers 3 жыл бұрын
NTSB, you can go home already, Juan has solved the case.
@icare7151
@icare7151 3 жыл бұрын
My recommendations to FAA 1)Jet engine cowlings need to be redesigned with multi fiber honeycomb 3D braided carbon fiber, aramid fibers such as Kevlar and with heat & fire resistance fiber such as Nomex. I have used these fibers for decades engineering such multi-fiber designs. Lightweight, ultra high tensile strength, heat and fire resistance are key to this design application. 2)Redesigning engine nose cones and cowling intakes for anti-fan blade deflection ejection which should have been mandated decades ago. 3)A fail safe self balancing shaft or variable pitch blades to lesson the damaging harmonic and in-harmonic vibrations after a blade off events which should also have been mandated years ago but may be cost, weight and engineering prohibitive. Cheers, Kent
@williamharn9048
@williamharn9048 3 жыл бұрын
They never even showed up!
@Miata822
@Miata822 3 жыл бұрын
@@icare7151 In your 3) the added complexity would almost certainly increase the number of engine loss events.
@icare7151
@icare7151 3 жыл бұрын
@@Miata822 Definitely don’t want to make an engine higher risk of failure in an attempt to increase fail safe margins. Doing so would be counterintuitive.
@billcallahan9303
@billcallahan9303 3 жыл бұрын
@@icare7151 I care. I liked your No. 2. The person who took that in-flight photo probably will never know how lucky they were not to be split in two...or the people in front or back of them. Good ideas you have!
@flyingark173
@flyingark173 3 жыл бұрын
Very glad to have you as a reliable resource for information such as this! Heard the news today say that the "fan blade ripped through the engine casing" and with your help I knew the difference between the engine casing and the cowling....big distinction. Thanks for giving us the "real news".
@feetincheseighths
@feetincheseighths 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your sophistication in the approach to explanation. My father and brother were engineers, one in aerospace and the other a civil engineer. Myself, I would call a self taught mechanic, designer, Problem solver by careful study and observation. In my neighborhood my garage can be a popular place. Retired from driving a commercial vehicle i opted for a career with little stress. While many in the general public know little about mechanical systems, Pilots, Astronauts and other professionals need to be up to speed right off when solving a problem when an emergency becomes real. Communicating with other employees who generally work with a limited scope of responsibilities and training can make a world of difference. In a point in my fathers career delivering specialized munitions to the military was met with a huge gap in training or communication with the people at the ground level who provided user support. I have always said in an emergency there are two kind of instruction. One that can be understood and one that can not be misunderstood. The guys in our family laugh when watching a movie as none of the crew on a spaceship or air plane seem to know anything about anything when problems come about. One the other hand the bliss that companies someone totally ignorant can be a blessing while boarding a plane. Knowing people like you are still out there certainly is a boost in confidence. The popularity of reducing the requirements of testing and the reduction of wages across the labor market is truly frightening as the goal of providing the best skilled workforce in the world is compromised in a way no politician will admit with greedy corporate types in their back pocket..I hate corporate America. OK i'm getting out now.. Sorry Always enjoy your videos
@lorenrasmussen338
@lorenrasmussen338 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed reading your analysis of the responsibilities of professional people often ignored by the public. I’m a retired engineer but also drove 18 wheelers for 12 years. Idiots running dangerous equipment require us to over-engineer safety measures to avoid idiots killing themselves...... same as idiots driving in your blind spots. But same idiots criticize us for complicated safety systems, redundancies, rules and regulations, etc. I only hope that we have enough young people to follow in our footsteps to assure they protect the unemployable druggies living on welfare who can’t even decide which bathroom they should use... thanks to our governing mentality. Also.... it was nice reading comments from somebody who uses proper grammar, punctuation and spelling. A few of us actually remember third grade English.
@mojo7618
@mojo7618 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your videos, thank you a lot.
@brown-eyedman4040
@brown-eyedman4040 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these insights. And hats off to this crew. They calmy did what they were trained to do.
@daviddmoore1
@daviddmoore1 3 жыл бұрын
Captain: "This is what we trained for people". Good job to them!
@Saabjock
@Saabjock 3 жыл бұрын
Each of those blades impart tons of force in that area near the root and closest to the hub. The energy at every given point is about the weight of a fully loaded school bus. The blades will actually stretch sometimes...hence the abradable material. We are usually not allowed to do any blending or repair work in those areas due to it. Any damage is usually grounds for a blade change and disc re-balance. Bad as it looks, this appears to be a contained failure. The ice impact trays are scuffed up (as you'd expect in this kind of failure) but the kevlar ring does not appear punctured in the images. The fact that the engine continued windmilling was the best thing for that fire...strange as it sounds. It meant the laminar flow due to the rotating components kept the flame from propagating outward from the core towards the wing structure.
@user6008
@user6008 3 жыл бұрын
From someone who knows nothing concerning aviation, that is one extremely well built engine. To lose a fan blade, stay mostly intact while not exploding or blowing up is a safety measure in itself.
@grantjohnston5817
@grantjohnston5817 3 жыл бұрын
If it was a well built engine it would not have failed!
@ronmaxim8009
@ronmaxim8009 3 жыл бұрын
@@grantjohnston5817 More people have died sniffing paint thinner in the last week than have died in 777's powered by PW during its entire 26 year service life....
@rayclark474
@rayclark474 3 жыл бұрын
@@grantjohnston5817 failures happen, the fact that the engine did not disintegrate when this blade failed means that this WAS an extremely well built and designed engine. The fact that the failure was contained and no internal engine parts other than the failed blade left the airframe indicates amazing engineering.
@Flyboyed
@Flyboyed 3 жыл бұрын
Juan Blancolirio is the best.
@spicemasterii6775
@spicemasterii6775 3 жыл бұрын
There's no Juan like Juan.
@geofiggy
@geofiggy 3 жыл бұрын
To bad I can't give him 2 thumbs up. Except here 👍🏼👍🏼
@ml9849
@ml9849 3 жыл бұрын
@@spicemasterii6775 Only Juan.
@christainmarks106
@christainmarks106 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to the KZfaq algorithm gods... I stumbled on to one of his videos years ago when he was discussing the 737 max disasters... I was hooked instantly and now I’m a fan for life. Juan is the MAN
@glasser2819
@glasser2819 3 жыл бұрын
glad to hear Cap. Juan is back in the saddle 👍
@bp-ob8ic
@bp-ob8ic 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of the Captain's responsibilities. Really glad this turned out well, and kudo's to the professionals that made it work.
@randallreed9048
@randallreed9048 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Browne, you are so good at explaining. I could listening to you all day. I feel like I am an "insider" getting the real story. Thank you.
@Magnetic_Spaceman
@Magnetic_Spaceman 3 жыл бұрын
Agent JayZ nailed it when he said, "looks like a blade, maybe a blade and a half."
@petemitchel7256
@petemitchel7256 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Juan, a National Resource.
@ramosel
@ramosel 3 жыл бұрын
As a not so nearby neighbor (about 10 miles as the crow flies) Juan started this reporting with the Oroville Dam problems.... an arena is which he had NO expertise. He still did a better job than any of the local or national news.
@guidospaini7339
@guidospaini7339 3 жыл бұрын
I concour!
@tippo5341
@tippo5341 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant update Juan, thank you as always...very informative and in plain simple terms that we not involved in the industry can understand. Safe flight to the UK, and looking forward to further news on this one. Cheers from Aus!!!!
@edwardbrown190
@edwardbrown190 3 жыл бұрын
Quite agree with Daniel. Juan, You add your personal knowledge and experience which gives comfort and confidence to the mere passenger. Thank you.
@psmirage8584
@psmirage8584 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine spending twenty minutes discussing a major 777 incident, and then have to jump into another 777 to fly it for the next eight hours.
@jimcooksc
@jimcooksc 3 жыл бұрын
Happens all of time. If they can identify a root cause they issue a directive to inspect for that defect. They may order a general inspection but until they know the cause they don’t know what they are looking for.
@jhfowler2326
@jhfowler2326 3 жыл бұрын
Juan is so "up on his game" and loves flying so much that he would be miserable in any other profession. He reminds me of an Advanced Chemistry Professor I had in College who could verbaly make the most complex equations and formulations seem easily explained in a manner that was grasped AND understood by EVERY SINGLE STUDENT he had. A GIFT, THAT JUAN SHARES.
@jakem7838
@jakem7838 3 жыл бұрын
I watch aircraft mishap videos routinely. I feel it is a very important learning resource for me, as an aircraft mechanic.
@youngtimer964
@youngtimer964 3 жыл бұрын
Not very many still flying with this engine type.
@carterrk
@carterrk 3 жыл бұрын
777 still one of the safest aircraft ever built. Always a great flight.
@petecollins4925
@petecollins4925 3 жыл бұрын
Good explanation of ETOPS, thanks Juan, I like learning new stuff. Welcome to a much warmer London than it was a couple of weeks back, positively tropical now by comparison!
@Katiebelly123
@Katiebelly123 3 жыл бұрын
We want to see you in London!!! Thanks for great reporting. You're a terrific teacher.
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