Appreciated thank you so much

Rhinozherous thank you

Love that expression:)

Bob Gary thank you 🙏

It does work, yes

@@scum5 Thanks Jake

still getting used to it if I'm honest - but at least it provides the basics for people to hone skills from

@@tmtcschannel that is true. One more tip though. If the target is stationary you dont have to get the angle to bow or even distance only direction or barring

first torpedo likely missed because the target wasn't facing exactly 90 degrees to him. More like 80-ish. Probably just barely missed.

Brian Raff that was exactly the case. If the ship were heading exact 90 degrees, both torpedos would had hit.

Point sub at target and AOB zero, speed zero. Toro will go straight ahead

Hahah love this comment :D

Great question! i think the game cheats a little bit if i'm honest

@@tmtcschannel Also I dont understand this: once you have all your calculation, when do you fire in relation to where is the target in the periscope? It seems it doesnt matter where the boat is heading as long as you have all the values set, but I mean even if if the torpedoes steers themself for a short while after being fired, it should matter where you are facing when firing, does it not? Must you fire when the target is at bearing 350/0 or it doesnt matter as long as you have the targeting values set? Hope my english is all right, I'm french, I actually live near the Uboat base that was used in "Das boot", which is still there with its massive walls full of impacts (Saint Nazaire)!

@@tmtcschannel We were wrong the speed of torpedo is set in the torpedo's menu, to 30 knt. Maybe we can change it for the T1 torpedoes that are supposed to be possibly faster in a future update or with a certan modification. idk... ;)

yes I was at full stop and no the game isn't paused while doing it

@@tmtcschannel Thanks for taking to the time to answer. Seems like it could become a very good game once fully developed.

totally agree. it has some way to go and interested to see where it will be in 6 months

once all calculations are in just fire :) as long as you are in good range and you like the shot of course

@@tmtcschannel ah ok, I figured there would be more to it. Thanks for the reply!

Interestingly enough, what you're doing in setting range, speed and trajectory is you're programming an analog computer on the uboat that sets the torpedo in a curved path towards the target. The computer sets the angles of the torpedo's gyroscope to make it go in a curve. In the game, they do a short turn soon after launch and then run straight. Either it's a placeholder and the devs will add the curve later or it's meant to be easier for the player to predict a hit. But yeah, except for that little bit, this is exactly how WWI era Uboat torpedoes worked. Germans even developed one that ran in a zig-zag pattern to increase the likelyhood of it hitting something else if it misses it's prmary target in a convoy.

It is you can work it out and then enter it if you need too

I have had a couple of dud's problem is I haven't played SH3 in a looooong time

ZeroWolfAlfa Its very easy to miss a torpedo due to the spread. Also, this man’s torpedoes were pre-heated (they were red in the firing menu). Preheating removes the possibility of a dud. When you Dont do this however, the change for a dud is... I estimate about 20%

The speed is correctly measured: 134.6 meters length in about 70 seconds is 1.9 meters per second. Which is 6.9 km/h (m/s times 3.6) , and also 3.7 nm/h (knots)

@@Valenorious no one said it wasn´t correctly measured...

@@RSProduxx You are correct. I should have said the game calculates it correctly to km/h. The game using 30 km/h for torpedo speed (realistic speed of a type-2 torpedo was 30 kts), and showing target speed in km/h instead of kts (like in real-life U-boat), is what started me questioning what is correct.

@@Valenorious I see... well, luckily you can switch the measures in options as far as i know, if needed... But to be fair, i don´t care which numbers the game uses, as long as i hit my target :D

it does have a damage model from what I understand and if you hit with a Torp it will sink over time or if the crew can fix it will list and limp away best it can

@MiniNinja He aimed for the centre too, dude. The AI misses just like the player's calcs are not working 100% either, so, you have no idea where he hit the objects. A mere assumption of yours. As long as you haven't ask the devs or programmed the game yourself you know nothing on what the AI is _'aiming'_ for and if there's more _'flooding'_ when you hit it here or there. Because in fact there's no flooding at all, it's a computer program. A pretty bugged one as well. And what is not programmed is not in the game. So, don't compare games with reality. They're just as good as their programming is.

Expect to see the controller for depth of torpedo as well. (not sure if it existed in UBoat)

Yeah I agree. So many of us played Silent Hunter series and this game looks nice in some ways but dumbed down and we miss manual plotting. Less exposed scope if you just pop it up for a quick ranging measurement and back down then wait for 3:15 minutes before second ranging. The timing method he used is simpler but scope is exposed so long. It was pointless using the stadimeter to get range in this vid because it was a zero gyro shot . All he needed was AOB and speed.... Took me many hours in silent hunter to realize that. Even Manual TDC is kind dumbed down . But at least it is not just asking the officer to make the firing solution and then fire. Now I am tempted to buy it.

@@rawnukles bro Ive checked lots of gameplay and reviews and I would reject this game. It looks boring, plain, shallow for experienced SH4 player like us. And seems to be not on simulation point since the game focus on having to manage stupid resourses things manually like a crew acitivity management (Yes, like the sims 4 in submarine) or click-to-do-this-onebyone RPG rather than a Submarine Captain making crucial decision and order the whole ship about what to do. This is imo and its up to you, no bother just saying. The game is not bad, it just gives no depth, no intense moment and no spectacular gameplay like what SH4 used to have, but focus on things that are just forcing you to follow. Will play this game when it has difficulty setting to set to more simulated, and ability to remove click-to-do-that resources management style. Its still a great game that bring back the subsim with an up to date graphics.

@@KiLLkInGLiOn Yeah I agree with you . I want to play it with SH4 plotting but even the ship icons are cartoonish and inappropriate for plotting. Oh well maybe in time it will be modded like Trigger maru ! We can only hope so.

KiLLkInGLiOn ei About the Sims 4 thing... Yes Thats True But it does add something more... it makes you have to take care of your crew. When you Get bombed in this game and dive, your crew will start panicking. This, I think, is a very interesting feature and also a realistic one. I never played SH games but I bought this one 2 days ago and I’ve enjoyed it Well so far. Spotting chimney smoke in the distance, start pre heating the torps and start diving to periscope dept... it just really gives me that feeling of: Good bye little brave convoy, the wolf has arrived to kill the sheep.

I think theres 3 atm

agreed - can be done on map etc

Lots of real sub captains estimated it with their naked eye. It's a good skill to have when you need to change targets.

To estimate the AoB and the range with your naked eye can Safe you many many (important) seconds. And if your AoB guessing is on point, you only need to measure the speed because the accurate range is not so important. Thats how most experienced kaleus worked. Measuring the speed with the stop watch, guessing the AoB and the estimated range when shooting and there you go. As long as the speed and the AoB are correct, you will have good chances to hit

I will say I managed to take out a big freighter with this method, C3 I think it was, so it worked fine then thanks to your help in this video. I was heading towards it so that may be the answer to my question...

Yes. The torpedo does a curve to catch up to the target (that's realistic, BTW). So as long as you program the Torpedo Data Computer right, you have a good chance of hitting.

Check MODS on steam, might already be done :)

@@tmtcschannel theres a really good tdc mod

give it a try :)

So manual tdc is available in certain level of difficulty or what? I don’t see the point if there s a external view cam in the game... ???

really? NICE!

Agreed :)

yep - :) one of my MANY flaws

W0T?

it could be worse also :) and only 3 people on the dev team so kudos to them

The graphics are fine to me. What matters is game play and of you like sub games, it really is a gem I think.

Hi

Silent hunter is shit

KiLLkInGLiOn ei because the captain would leave the attack scope and then go to the map and draw this out right? Estimating the aob by eye was how it was actually done.

​@Bryan Clark Don't know if you are trying to make fun or something but, by sense of basic fundamentals in logic, you should not guess a crucial data unless your logic is not older than 12. This game allows you to control the whole ship of 20 crews with one mouse either and one of them is a torpedo calculation operator. So what periscope operator do is actually giving the data to the calculation operator , meanwhile, the captain just stand there administrating the whole process... The captain is not the one at the attack scope or calculating the torpedo at all -> Now use your own logic to answer to what you are arguing about.

@@KiLLkInGLiOn I'm not making fun of you, but use your fundamentals of logic and tell me why they fired torpedo spreads if all of the derived values were so concrete? In real life the captains position on a u-boat during an attack was on the attack periscope, he was not someone watching and just administration the while process. His visual marks were plotted to estimate the targets range, speed and heading relative to his u-boat. Over the course of time this plot could be developed and they could then estimate the targets course. Calculating all of this is part art and science and yes estimation was used. Feel free to do some research on the subject rather than taking my advice.

@@grenadespoon Ok I believe you now. You are right. Don't forget to guess the angle of bow before firing.

With a situation like this a 5 degrees error in AOB wouldn't have caused a miss. Not until it was at a distance of around 6km. Yes, that is technically >2km, but not as bad as you think. If it was fired behind the target, near AOB 180 then I agree with you. His AOB was more like 105 degrees, instead of 90 degrees. The 1st torpedo missed because it moved at a different speed than the TDC calculated the lead for. Look at the overview map just after the impact.

How much are you missing by? Save the game just before you fire so you can practice a little