Hell no, what did you accidently smoke?

@@TheAntManChannel He said, "during this time," as when this bout took place. Pride FC certainly had better heavyweight contenders. Almost no one would argue that. They also had many great light heavyweight and middleweight fighters.

​@@TheAntManChannel If I were Surge I would Return-to-Sender that question...

@@TheAntManChannel of course pride was better without any doubt pride rules were unic ,and they had better fighters.

@@TheAntManChannel Pride had Fedor, Coleman, CroCop, Minotauro, Randleman, Arona, Shogun, Vanderlei Silva, Rampage... They all fought each other, longer rounds, better fights for sure than the UFC.

A única lenda do MMA aí é o Minotauro...

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PRIDE forever best

Not even a comparison. Pride where Olympic level classy as well.

Anyone who thinks Fedor was the best is a casual fan who has never trained themselves. There has been no time in history where NOGIUERA of all people would be considered the best in the world. A truly insane thing to say.

@@monarch1651 how do you explain all the other great heavyweights across all organizations considering him that if that’s not the case. Are guys like Randy Couture casual fans? There’s a reason why so many of his contemporaries and former opponents were at his last fight for his retirement. Find another heavyweight that’s beat more world champions than Fedor at heavyweight. I believe Couture beat 8 between heavy and light heavyweight combined. And yes Big Nog would be considered for such a title. Most people just didn’t see him before he came to the UFC when he was on the tail end of his career.

@@derekmortensen85 randy couture is not a heavyweight. Fedor is not a heavyweight. These are fat middleweights who dominate heavyweights because once you get that big outside of a few genetic freaks, you're too slow and proportionally weak. Also I don't think most people understand what level athletes all but the top 10 mma fighters in the world were up until the 2010s. Conor McGregor dominated top 3 ufc fighters with semi pro level boxing. Fedor has pretty basic boxing and good takedown defense and since he's a fat sub 6 foot man that made him dominate men with massive physical advantages purely based on the speed his tendons work compared to them. Nogiuera probably wouldn't have been invited to adcc today. Much less survive a can like Juan Adams.

@@monarch1651 actually they were heavyweights because that’s what they weighed. Getting to 205 was really hard for Couture specifically and Fedor fought there his whole MMA and Sambo career. A comparison like that is like saying Roy Nelson was a middle weight because he was fat. If going up was that easy then why doesn’t every middleweight or light heavyweight just not cut weight at all and go up and be champ? Conor’s best fights were at 145 and while he was great for a time to say he was successful in boxing outside of getting a giant check from the Floyd fight, which he did pretty well in overall, but he mainly got due to his personality it is hard to say he had success there on an athletic level. His time focusing on boxing actually seemed to hurt him in MMA because he changed his stance to a more boxing adapted stance instead of his more karate based stance which let him control range better. The toughest division in all of MMA overall was 205 from like 2010-2018 followed by 170 when GSP was champ. The depth in both of those classes was immense.

@@derekmortensen85 I agree with some of what you said, but I disagree on a lot too. Roy Nelson wasn't a middleweight. He was a goddamn welterweight. The dude had fat rolls on his wrists that wiggled when he punched someone slow motion. The difference between him and bigfoot Silva or Stefan struve? Talent. Most truly large men are horrible athletes and can't stand up quickly enough to not die. The only men who should be fighting at heavyweight are actual freaks of nature. Heavyweights should make up a tiny tiny tiny percent of the population but everyone's massively obese now so they think they know what a 300 pound man looks like.

Randy Couture

@@brr8888 That wasn't the same Coleman. Coleman had so many injuries by then, had lost so much muscle, and was older as well. Not even close to his prime when he fought Couture.

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Roicardo Arona made him look like an a child

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​​@@rendadigital8984Vc diz contra o Minotauro ou foi contra o Coleman?

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Lutador limitado o Coleman.

Coleman é wrestler, então ele também estava em seu habitat natural, mas Minotauro tinha um jogo de solo mais eficaz. Felizmente!

Porque em pé ele já tava tomando atraso... era a única opção que ele tinha...

Para enfrentar o Minotauro no chão nessa época, só o Fedor mesmo....

Burro. Ficou com a cabeça enfiada entre as pernas do cara, uma hora ia dar ruim.

medo de cu e rol@ rapaz !!!

Não levou pro chão com medo. Aproveitei da queda do Minotauro e errou feio ao tentar o Grande and power.😂😂😂

@@manoellima4367 como pode né mano kkkkkkkkk

I personally think Nogueira would have strong consideration for the best heavyweight ever if not for Fedor. They guy is way underrated in America because most US fans didn’t see him until the tail end of his career.

Big Nog is probably my favorite HW. A true warrior with an iron chin.💪💪

@@jimh.412 Iron chin isn't an earned skill. It's a gift from God.

Yeah, I was a fan back then and Nog was believed to be unbeatable before Fedor wrecked him lol. To be fair, Coleman was the #1 HW in the world at this time, having beaten Igor who had just beaten Mark Kerr twice. Coleman was *the man* coming into this fight and it's not everyday you see *the man* getting handled like this.

Fedor was better but he got Coleman @ the end of his career tbh.

@@richardmorris6365 Coleman was a one trick pony on his best day, just a juiced up wrestler like his buddy Randleman, neither were very well rounded, even for their era...

@@pulsarlights2825 Don't use the steroid argument. On JRE podcast, Enson Inoue admitted that everyone in Pride juiced, since the Pride contract explicitly states "We do not test for steroids." Fact. I will concede to your second point that the Hammer House didn't evolve any of its members. They didn't really cross-train other martial arts. That's why Mark Kerr left them for Bas Rutten's Beverly Hills BJJ.

@@byronjuarez656 I heard the same thing about Pride not testing, as if the UFC or other promotions are 100% drug free....you hear the same thing today about ADCC and Gordon Ryan not being tested... My point about Coleman and Randleman is that being juiced was all they seemed to have going for them, if they weren;t the bigger, faster stronger fighter, they would have almost no chance to win, so they had to abuse drugs...Kerr was a little more well rounded, but he never lived up to the hype that surrounded him at the time..

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Coletam estava fim de carreira 37 anos e Minotauro 26 anos

Arona ganhou do Fedor.

@@renatocellobr Verdade brow pois foi aquela luta Garfada como varias q aconteceram em tudo quanto é evento

Fabricio Wedum ganhou do Fedor no jiu Jitsu tb... mas Fedor tava mais pro fim da carreira tb

​@@renatocellobrganhou nada ! E o fedor na época era início de carreira e o arona tbm. O fedor no auge foi no pride ! Ali o arona ia ser varrido. A luta deles foi no evento RINGS.

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Big Nog was good for his time but his guard is basic BJJ by today's standards. It's basically a closed guard w/transitions of - triangle/armbar/omoplata. If you train at any BJJ club today, you'll find that lots of ppl use it.

Minotauro não lutou contra Mark kerr e tbm ia ser parada dura por que o kerr treinava JJ e tbm foi campeão do ADCC ,sabia finalizações tbm. Óbvio que o minotauro era melhor que ele no chão mas ia ser parada dura ,até por que o kerr era melhor que o coleman no chão.

But why? Coleman could NOT take Nogueira down. Also Nogueira was winning the clinching part of the fight.

There are no better martial arts, just better martial artists

@@markcorrigan3930 You need to take some remedial math classes, son.

Meh, you can set up a sweep by going for a Kimura too.

Pride never die !!!!

In UFC 8 (1996), Don Frye dominated Amaury Bitetti. To me, that was the end of BJJ's reign and the ushering in of the wrestling era. Amaury Bitetti looked bad vs Don Frye but Bitetti was still a respected legend in Brazil.