Yeah, sometimes they give you a value in the user manual.

@@AllThingsOnePlace Yes but we should know it before buying it. I have never seen this value in the Amazon or AliExpress product page. The Wotobeus 2W idle consumption is huge, I would've thought twice before buying if I knew. Unfortunately I discovered your excellent KZfaq account only yesterday. BTW it would be a great idea to review the cheap 65w USBc chargers available on AliExpress for around $12. Keep up the great work 👍

The design is good in terms of efficiency and power conversion on both of these adapters. It is a lot of power in a sealed box for that Wotobeus adapter. There is a reason your computer power supply has a fan, ha. I'm still waiting for a good small adapter.

No problem. Answer on these power adapters is a lot. As long as you are doing work that Wotobeus isn't a bad choice. I might rig up something to run lights with better efficiency than the terrible bricks that come with those. Perfect application since there is no idle, it's unplugged or on.

Thanks for watching!

I guess if you look at it like $100 per 100 watts it’s more reasonable? Still expensive. Ha. Thanks for watching. I am really hoping anker steps the game up on this next round of power adapters.

You can get a 200W charger for $40 now from Amazon.

@@icenfolsom6369 share the link please?

Nice! Thanks for watching and welcome aboard.

Thanks for watching!

Thanks!

Thank you for helping the channel out!

Yeah, for a large amount of devices the one brick for several devices makes sense. OEM bricks do tend to be the best quality and match for a device though.

Yeah, I like the option.

Thats my favorite take away from the video. An option incase plugging to a wall with the AC cord or non when using in a floor socket and less baggage for travel.

Well, they offered a free charger, I didn't take them up on the offer. I know I eventually will have to start working with these companies but the "I purchased it I am going to say whatever I want" versus "the adapter is supplied by 'the company' and they have to review the content before you post it and it can only be positive because we gave you a product" is a deal breaker for me. I'm not opposed to sponsored content but it can't be this is the best thing ever only buy this one followed by the next week this is the best thing ever only buy this one... haha

@@AllThingsOnePlace good point

@@AllThingsOnePlace lol what a cheap company offering you only the charger but not paying money at least for ads

@@AllThingsOnePlace That's why I love your content, honesty is a very important factor in these videos for me. You just stated the sole reason why I don't trust videos with paid sponsorship! You're different than the rest and the quality of your content shows :D

Thanks for watching. Anker has some good competition so hopefully they can keep up!

Neat, I am going to have to check this one out. I have had it for some time now but haven't reviewed it.

You are welcome!

Yes, I have both of them on the list.

Yeah, powering three devices that can use decent amounts of power means a little higher power level is better, so something with 100 watts will power all three devices, maybe not to maximum capability but at least everything will work. If you don't mind swapping cables then smaller adapters are okay. Maximum portability you can get one of the Anker Nano adapters. When you step up to the 100 watt adapters you lose a little portability but gain a lot of functionality.

Thanks!

I think that was my general conclusion on this one. At 100 watts it's a great choice (but then there are cheaper options) at the full 200 watts this thing is going to destroy itself, ha.

@@AllThingsOnePlace the wotobeus 240w? What do you think?

@@AllThingsOnePlace Baseus and Hyphen X for the win!

thermal.uni-trend.com/product/uti165a-2/ I think it may be discontinued now. It has been reliable and has excellent battery life. USB C charging of course, only 5V though.

I'm waiting to see one of these comments and it says "not nice video", ha.

Thanks. Looks like the chargers are going to keep getting bigger.

@@AllThingsOnePlace to satiate higher power demands yes of course, atleast power cables / extensions resolve the falling out of the wall issue

That's a lot of apples. The 120W Baseus does make a bit of noise (coil whine) and has some strangeness on the idle state so generally I'd probably steer away from that. As long as the UGREEN can meet the local regulation requirements it is a good adapter, technically the best one power performance wise, ha.

@@AllThingsOnePlace That's too bad! I've been really impressed with my little Baseus 65W charger.

Yeah, I need to work on my thumbnails for the whole channel. Chargerlab does a great job. I kind of don't bother with teardowns because they do such a good job. Yeah, the aggregate statistics can probably be built from a more complete database. I don't keep a database specifically of size and weights maybe I should start.

Yeah, the 200W, is a big power supply, but if you are charging that much gear there isn't much better, yet.

@@AllThingsOnePlace sadly no i do love that its flatter then the old 100 watt i used less of a bulge in my charging pack and stronger prongs then the old eu version with a decent cord i hope they make a 250 watt in the similar formfactor in the future think they can squeeze out those extra 50 which would make it my main charger then for everything

haha, yeah I wish I bought one charger instead of... like 200. I am still using the 200W Wotobeus to power my lights for making videos, I also use the 165W Satechi as my daily charger.

Haha, yeah. I have a 200W brick with a fan in it! It isn't USB C though, just a normal brick, but still they decided that it was really needed in that case to run it full time. I forgot to put the Dell 180W laptop brick in the comparable data in this video. That does surprisingly okay but it is a bit larger.

@@AllThingsOnePlace My MSI GE76-231 notebook uses a 280-watt power brick, it's a monster of a brick. But I've heard they got desktop replacement notebooks now that use a 350 watt or larger brick, it's insane lol.

You can unplug it anytime. I actually use the Wotobeus in exactly that condition, because the idle power usage is terrible it is switched to off most of the time.

I have heard of it. I also heard of the price! Ouch. I will check that one out soon enough.

@@AllThingsOnePlaceI ordered one for $168 which is still cheaper than the Ugreen at least, let's see when it will arrive. So far I have the ISDT Power 200w and when using a 100w lcd display cable it charges my Tab S8 Ultra to 28w max, but when i use my Baseus 100w car charger w/ LED wattage display it charges up to 43w. Not sure why a car charger using the 12v port charges faster than a full out 110v charger

Wow, that is a of watts. Of course not on one port. Yes, I will have to check that out.

This 200W charger stands alone at this point with what I have looked at, I've heard of another one, the Ego exinno (kickstarter campaign) I didn't get one though. The 150W offering from Anker is really a good charger also if you need the watts.

I haven't seen it for sale alone.

The 245w one? It has been on the list for a while. Hyper has some stuff that is the same as Wotobe or WotobeUS chargers too so the 240W could be the same charger as that one and that is on the way at some point. I have that here.

Yeah, I've had that on the list for a while. They have some interesting power banks as well.

I use the wotobeus one for lights

how about that corsulin brand? @@AllThingsOnePlace

I have a video on that for these chargers that shows it visually, but yes, they do.

Ah, yeah, a three pin connector may have some other advantages too. I believe these are made by vina so there are tons of brands that use these designs.

Your going to be looking at Baseus USB power adapter chargers for that. They have both the desktop and portable versions. Check links in this video's description and you will find them. Baseus hands down is the winner on this channel, for 100W power adapter chargers. You can also look at his video on Basues to see for yourself.

Technically, best power to size I've tested is the Wotobeus in this video. The Baseus adapters are a decent all around choice though.

Yeah, that is a standard cable type. It is a C5 type (cloverleaf) connector instead of the C7 (8 figure) you see a lot of.

Ok thanks. I just learned planes only allow two power banks though. Still I might buy that ugreen block just because that removable cord makes it international proof. And if I ever want to charge three 60W banks at the same time I can. Fyi I'm just going to keep using the green cell power play ultra (buying another one) rather than using those baseus blades. The powerplays also charge in two hours (same as the blades) but they're 26K mAh. They're also much heavier but I decided I don't care. If I can only pack two banks I want to max out their capacity and the powerplays are the only other banks I can find that charge in two hours with a "small" input of 60W. My ideal would be the 140W ugreen charger which lets you split the two usb-c slots into 60 or 65W each but I don't see how it's any good when you're stuck with whatever socket option you choose at first. I'd almost like to complain that the company is making an item practically made for travel specifically but fails to see it that way. Anyway it looks like their 200W charger was accidentally made suitable for travel.

Satechi has been the most used cable. I use a lot of different ones really. Anker, cable creations, amazon basics. Not even scratching the surface of what is out there: www.allthingsoneplace.com/usb-cables

@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks for the reply! I wonder why companies (like Anker) thought it was a good idea to make a cable with smooth metal grab ends. It makes one hand unplugging difficult, especially when your hands are sweaty. Very annoying.

@@AllThingsOnePlace Great table! Could I suggest publishing it to a public Google spreadsheet so people could view the latest version, sort by different columns, filter, etc.? Of course you can leave everyone else read‐only/view-only so nobody else is actually changing your spreadsheet.

Nvm, I found a 140W-rated cable from Anker. So expensive though!

It depends so that cable is PD 3.1 so the phone has to support 28v charging to take advantage of that. The usb PD 3.0 specification would be 20v at 5 amps maximum. The cables don’t go above 5 amps in typical use. There are some custom protocols that push this and in general any advantage is going to be lost in power losses in cables and converters so not really worth it. Just marketing.

@@AllThingsOnePlace thank you for the thorough response

Yeah, I have it. It will be on the channel at some point.

That is a good one. I guess it depends on how many devices and what the devices are. If it's a pile of phones, then something with lower wattage per port and lots of ports, but I've not seen much like that. They tend to be high wattage on one port or two ports, then some odd power sharing scheme. I'd probably just go with my usual devices, the Baseus 100W GaN3 desktop or the Satechi 165W Desktop charger. I bring them with me all the time. They have four ports and can charge a laptop and several phones at once. If you also have some low power devices, I would get a two port low power charger like one of the dual port less than 40 watt chargers. So, probably a two prong approach. One big adapter and one small adapter.

@@AllThingsOnePlace Thankyou for taking time to advise me. I really appreciate it.

For that price point the UGREEN is a crazy value. I haven't looked at the 240w Wotobeus yet but I expect good things. I power all my studio lights with the 200W wotobeus.

@@AllThingsOnePlace ​ Lets see how it turns out but your review on this ugreen 200w charger is a big help for me when i make a decision between this 200w ugreen and 100w ugreen, both are gan and desktop charger. I do interest in that wotobeus 240w desktop charger but there is no local seller on where i live so i have to place an order on aliexpress but the cost is quite steep, like 100 usd. I hope that you test that 240w wotobeus desktop charger and compare it to this 200w ugreen charger. Thanks again for this awesome and in-depth review of this ugreen charger.

@@T_t418 where and when can you get that 60$ price tag? that's ridiculously drop, I haven't seen it at that price anywhere

Hopefully Anker finally has some strong performers to throw at the power adapter database.

Samsung 45W charging requires 5A in the PPS mode. I just checked it out and this charger will only deliver 3A in the PPS mode.

@@AllThingsOnePlace what is the best charger for pps 45w Samsung phones? Preferably 100w or higher. Thanks.

@@Robbyjonesy The BEST is probably the Samsung charger since it guarantees compatibility. I don't have any PPS devices so I can't actually test it (besides emulators). The Baseus 100W desktop charger has the 5A capability in PPS mode but I have heard that it may drop out of the super fast mode and into fast mode sometimes.

I own Samsung S23+ and I purchased Ugreen 200W charger (although my P/N is 40914 instead of 40913 being tested here) and it only delivers Super fast charging and doesn't deliver Super fast charging 2.0 (45W)

A 'modified sine' wave is a nice way of saying square wave which has tons of harmonic content in both the voltage and current waveforms. This can most certainly cause buzzing in a power supply of any type. This will be highly variable depending on the design of the power supply. I would expect the buzzing to actually come from filtering components, common mode choke and capacitors, as opposed to the PFC circuit (which is a boost converter, it effectively won't be doing anything with a modified sine as an input). The goal of active PFC in a switching power supply is to reduce the peak current draw of the main DC filtering capacitor charging directly off the bridge rectifier and mains. A high duty cycle modified sine (or a 50% duty cycle square wave) through a full bridge rectifier is just DC so the PFC circuit can boost this voltage as normal if it isn't high enough already or do nothing if the voltage is high enough and nothing will happen. The components before the bridge rectifier can still buzz though since they are seeing all those harmonics. Not impossible for a PFC circuit to make some noise though when expecting a sine wave to get confused with a high slew rate square showing up instead. Great comment and the answer would require a ton of investigation and really specific tests on every possible device and possible waveform. The answer will vary device to device.

@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks for the in-depth response. I've noticed some power supplies buzz on modified sine wave (aka square wave) inverters while others don't buzz. My anker nano ii 65w power adapter doesn't buzz. My 96w apple power supply does buzz. My 30w apple power supply doesn't buzz. My monitor does buzz. My projector power supply also buzzes. I bet all of them do buzz , but not all of them are loud enough to be audible. I'd be curious to know how using a square wave affects the quality of the DC power supplied over usb-c.

Not yet, that I am aware of at least, there are a few others out there that I haven't actually gotten my hands on yet. Some are certainly clones of these though.

@@AllThingsOnePlace please get your hand on zeus 270 watt

The adapters only have 100 watts on one port so they can't charge a device that needs more than that.

99% of the time you don't. These are closed up with glue or plastic welding so once you crack or saw them open they pose a major safety risk. Also, if a proprietary chip inside is damaged you won't be able to get a replacement. Unfortunately, so is the state of modern electronics, most of the chips in these devices are not available for the public to purchase so you may be able to find the problem but your chances of repair are very slim to none.

Unfortunately, I have four chargers of the Anker type that do not work at all, even though they have not passed for more than a year, and they cost me a large amount. Indeed, I tried previously to open one of the chargers, but I noticed that it was very tired and difficult to return it as it was or close it tightly, so I want to ask you, do you advise me In a specific company other than the company anker and I thank you very much

@@MrRaheezx I have had good luck with Baseus, but not everyone has. I always mention them with a quality control warning. Having four power adapters fail is very unusual.

@@AllThingsOnePlace You are right, something is unusual, but I have five young children who may have a role in the matter, and I add that i have engage power adapter 200w two usb type work and ather two not working this The second time I exchanged it under warranty

If I had to pick the Wotobeus but it it can't do 200 watts all the time, it doesn't have the cooling, it has a safety listing (which based on the case temps it probably shouldn't have). Neither are really great though since the UGREEN also lacks a safety listing. The new 200W Satechi is coming though, I have it pre-ordered so that may take the crown.

@@AllThingsOnePlace I will wait for the review... Thanks for the Advice... Also can you Review and Teardown UP200 AC Power bank 40800amh Also the cell used in building it

@@AllThingsOnePlace what is safety listing?

@@usefulEDC A safety listing is a series of tests and design requirements that a product goes through to make sure it is more safe for the user. It doesn't mean the product is better in performance but it can mean in a fault situation that the adapter will fail in a more safe manner.

haha, yeah, that is also an option.

I do sometimes. The UGREEN doesn't have the option to not use a cord so cord is part of the adapter, the Wotobeus really has to be used with the cord too (it won't stay in a lot of outlets) so cord + adapter made sense here too.

Yeah, seems like all US retailers jack up prices as a rule. Good to know they can be had for more reasonable prices though.

Wotobeus is also prolink and probably several other brands... the parent company is vina.

Just looked through the presentation. I always like the presentations from manufacturers like this but always use caution since production models will always be a little less capable than design note models. This is impressive. 90 degrees C open air though! So, little more work to do to get it into a case without melting. Is it time to add fans to power bricks? I was hoping the industry would go the other way make better smaller adapters not these monsters but more watts more better? Either way good to see a design like this from Navitas to help manufacturers make better adapters.

@@AllThingsOnePlace I mean for those with high powered desk top replacement laptops or gaming laptops which hav e high power demands to reach peak performance higher wattagaes are required and I’m personally really interested in those larger 330 watt power bricks to become gan chargers so I would have a smaller / lighter power brick available to me

@@AllThingsOnePlace speaking of fans in power bricks , some high output battery banks have fans especially the ones with av outlets

@@ishinfinity3336 Yeah, I do remember seeing the laptops with two giant power bricks on videos a couple years ago. If they can be small enough to not be called a brick anymore, ha.

I started to add in the maximum power check for the PPS mode in the videos too. I usually don't check this since many devices don't hit anywhere near maximum power in PPS modes so it isn't very useful to power test the adapters. Most are 3A or less unless they specifically state they support 45W fast charging.

Does it supports Samsung s23 ultra or s22 ultra at 45 watt?

haha, yes, and UGREEN. That will happen with larger adapters. 4 is a significant difference. 1 is sample variance. The test method is better than 1 point. I am going to be replacing the bad power quality adapters that come with my lights with the Wotobeus since it is actually quite good for something where it will be under steady load and far under it's maximum.

Ouch! That is way too much.

hahaha. Ugh. Need to power those RTX 4000 series cards in laptops so 600 watts! 10 USB power cables to plug in your laptop minimum *full sarcasm mode* Yeah, the grid needs work but it is an huge amazing machine. I am hoping that with my tiny videos people can choose more friendly to the grid versions of things and maybe save a buck with more efficient products.

Yeah. It does get too hot.

Yeah, I think Anker gets a bad rap but their support is much better than that. I am still using the Wotobeus and it works fine, it is powering the lighting for all of my videos so about 50 watts continuous and it doesn't get too hot doing that, it gets physically turned off when not in use too because wow is the idle power bad on that thing.

Thanks, I will rewatch the video again and then have a look at the Wotobeus. Your channel weirdly has become pretty important for my remote office setup recently ^^@@AllThingsOnePlace

Yeah, they’ve come down a bit but I agree still unreasonably high.

Yes, like all of these, the mini-PC powered from one of these is a recipe for restarts.

haha, that is very true. The technology is there and it is very true that they could do more software smart power sharing on these since they do all have the processing power. I think the products coming onto the market now are just starting to do this but still very limited, it doesn't renegotiate until power is used but then still does a full reset, but most still reset on plug and unplug, in my video on using the 200W adapter to power led lights, its on then off then on then off then it finally figures it out and they are all on.