UK Police Advice: Law on Locking Knives & Curved Swords in the UK (Offensive Weapons Act 2019)

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2 жыл бұрын

Some advice to UK Police, but also for fencers, antique collectors, reenactors and other people affected, on UK laws relating to curved swords and locking knives. I am hearing more and more reported of the Offensive Weapons Act 2019 being misunderstood and poorly implemented, which is bad for the police, bad for citizens, bad for the civil service, and bad for the courts system.
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@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. This video is intended to help the current mess, and to be useful for police staff. Please don't use the comment space to abuse the police, or to discuss international weapon laws and rights. This is supposed to be a bridge-building and diplomatic video, which will hopefully be useful.
@arnijulian6241
@arnijulian6241 2 жыл бұрын
I don't appreciate the police as they purposely stay out of my area! Last time I sighted a police fells he was on a bicycle & purposely crossed the street to avoid vagrants loitering. You can ring for them when the gangs have shiv in 2 to 4 times a year on the block but they won't show up till after the collateral. The police are utterly useless & spend more time after non existent crimes then real one because they cowards with a mandate of arrest's to fill. Easier to confiscate items, harass the public, fine & granny state to get an arrest then go after actual criminals. Amount of police that tried arresting me for hate speech, but I hate every one as a misanthrope so no claim can stick because I kind of hate my self as well,
@theodoresmith5272
@theodoresmith5272 2 жыл бұрын
No ask people to call parliament and end this crap.
@theodoresmith5272
@theodoresmith5272 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like this is a fishing expedition to see what happens when the take a crumb of the cookie that is our freedom and in a way to... I dont know how to say it but some hate history/there own country and would like to see less people into its history?
@lyooyiylklykyokyklky
@lyooyiylklykyokyklky 2 жыл бұрын
Great video - I think it's a great shout for us to be engaging with law enforcement and law makers to make sure our employment and hobbies remain safe, and education is easily accessible so they can be better informed about who we are and what we do.
@johndemaria9408
@johndemaria9408 2 жыл бұрын
You would think the police whether in UK or here in the US would explain clearly like you did to avoid all this mess. Swords of good quality that are in the antique range are very expensive. To have it taken away by whim , can be more devastating emotionally more than financially because of what it might have taken to purchase it. Excellent explanation
@97wolffang
@97wolffang 2 жыл бұрын
In regards to the law being difficult to understand, more people should readily accept that the law hasn't been written with the express purposes of being clear and understood. Governments love vague and broad laws for a multitude of reasons.
@soonerfrac4611
@soonerfrac4611 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I hear about these laws I truly thank God that I live here in the States, and more specifically, in a free state. That allows and encourages me to carry for utility and protection.
@97wolffang
@97wolffang 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigredwolf6 sounds more like heaven to me lol
@MrBottlecapBill
@MrBottlecapBill 2 жыл бұрын
The purpose is open ended seizure without consequences. They want the weapons gone. Period.
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 2 жыл бұрын
It's always strange when they have a government representative on the radio they repeat "these laws are clear and easy to understand" over and over again like a mantra without any basis.
@georgehh2574
@georgehh2574 2 жыл бұрын
@@soonerfrac4611 America, free? It always seems in the USA, that the more free some people are, the less free others are.
@cassandranoice1563
@cassandranoice1563 2 жыл бұрын
"They've got curved swords!" Formerly random Nord in Whiterun. Currently constables in England.
@bigmanbarry2299
@bigmanbarry2299 2 жыл бұрын
CURVED. SWORDS
@PartTimeGoblinSlayer
@PartTimeGoblinSlayer 2 жыл бұрын
Well apparently whiterun guards typically deal with petty theivery and drunken brawls or finding lost sweetrolls. They just don't know how to deal with curved swords. I guess that's why they don't like redguards.
@Likexner
@Likexner 2 жыл бұрын
Cuckstables
@orangutangarama9870
@orangutangarama9870 2 жыл бұрын
@@PartTimeGoblinSlayer yeah that's why
@bradleyhollon6085
@bradleyhollon6085 2 жыл бұрын
Have you meet jorland graymain?
@bloochoo2870
@bloochoo2870 2 жыл бұрын
The law on locking knives is ridiculous! The blade locks for SAFTEY, the are literally called safety blades anywhere else in the world
@nathanaelsmith3553
@nathanaelsmith3553 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the logic surrounding our knife laws Is that being stabbed by a 3" blade is unlikely to be fatal and being stabbed with a non locking folding blade is less likely to be fatal as the blade might fold and hurt the assailant instead.
@SuperFunkmachine
@SuperFunkmachine 2 жыл бұрын
Its a follow on from the ban of fixed blade knifes without good reason.
@Likexner
@Likexner 2 жыл бұрын
Surely its meant to be easily concealed in order to be used in assassinations!
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 2 жыл бұрын
@@Likexner Pfaw. Use a spoon.
@mr.nobody1081
@mr.nobody1081 2 жыл бұрын
@@Likexner assassination by knife? maybe a few hundred years ago...
@UtahSustainGardening
@UtahSustainGardening 2 жыл бұрын
I work at a US hospital that has a ban on weapons, and every single maintenance worker has a locking blade supplied by the hospital. Locking blades are important safety tools for us.
@neoaliphant
@neoaliphant 2 жыл бұрын
Probably because hospitals would realise the injuries caused by weak hinged non locking knives, i always use locking multitool knife, been injured too often, and im not going leave in car, i would forget it when i need it, no know when need for going to see client on a job. ( im in UK)
@David0lyle
@David0lyle 2 жыл бұрын
@@neoaliphant too right!! I’m certain the emergency room sews up lacerated fingers from non locking blades a few times a day.🙄
@johnhermann7498
@johnhermann7498 2 жыл бұрын
@@grievuspwn4g3 Wait... So the UK Health and Safety Executive recognizes that locking blades are Safer but you can't legally carry one outside of work?
@Evergreen1400
@Evergreen1400 2 жыл бұрын
My dad works at a hospital that doesn’t allow knives or anything. The obviously have security there but I told my dad to talk to his head of security and to ask him what their plan is for an armed individual in the hospital and the security is instructed to try and help people locate the exit but their supposed to leave the hospital and meet up across the street so the security is instructed to run from the problem. Ever since my dad learned that he’s been bringing a knife to work. I also made him a monkey fist paracord necklace that has a 1oz lead musket ball in the middle of the monkey fist it won’t set off metal detectors or be attracted to magnetic machines he can use that as a last resort weapon
@neoaliphant
@neoaliphant 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnhermann7498 you can carry on you while carrying out work, or camping etc. but if you are tarvelling then you are supposed to leave in safe container. people have been arrested for having boxcutter knife in glovebox, or even dropped by accident down the side of car seat/doorwell. So if youre camping, while travelling to campsite/woods etc the knife needs to be buried in bag out of site, not on belt or pocket, and taken out when you get there. so if youre walking where you may encounter members of public, you cant have knife on in an accesible way. which is an issue if risk of losing backpack etc and being without anything is an issue. if youre travelling to clients house, and stop to go in to shop for food, having leatherman on belt would be a problem, but the right police officer might let it slide.
@Wanderer_of_Sol
@Wanderer_of_Sol 2 жыл бұрын
As an American, I can't imagine not being allowed to carry a locking knife. When I was a child learning proper knife safety while camping, one of the first things my mother told me right after "Don't cut towards yourself or anyone else" was "knives with locks are always safer than knives without locks" and I was strictly forbidden from owning any non-locking knifes, or knives with shoddy locks. So many accidental closes happen when using non-locking blades. It's absolutely ridiculous that people who want to use a knife are forces to us the most unsafe readily available option in the name of safety.
@dynamicworlds1
@dynamicworlds1 2 жыл бұрын
There are really poorly-written and insufficiently thought-out knife laws everwhere, even in the US. They're usually at the municipality level, here though. In some places in the US blade laws are pretty loose. In others they're strangely restrictive (though the UK is known for exceptionally strict knife laws). In still others they're disturbingly ambiguous. Be aware of your local laws in the US.
@kswindl
@kswindl 2 жыл бұрын
@@dynamicworlds1 Yes, and then you need to think of city vs county vs state, and if you're in a "state park" vs a "national forest." Absolute shit-show.
@dynamicworlds1
@dynamicworlds1 2 жыл бұрын
@@kswindl yeah, personally, I wish they'd just make cut/stab resistant uniforms standard for police so the authorties could stop being quite so twitchy about blades, but that's a whole other conversation. I'm just encouraging people to always check local laws. Don't presume anything makes sense. In some places knives, battons, tasers, shuriken, nunchucks, etc can be more far restricted than guns. Like going through an airport, a lot of it is just security theater to make it look like something is being done but that doesn't mean that you can apply logic to assume "well, if I'm allowed X I must be allowed Y" or "there's no was Z could be seen as a weapon" and have any confidence that will conform to any of the legal jurisdictions you're in, much less all of them. Always verify because sometimes the rules are totally arbitrary, but "this law is pointless nonsense" won't help you in court.
@dme7689
@dme7689 2 жыл бұрын
Scariest knife I've owned... and I own a lot... was my boy scout folding knife. That thing had no lock and snapped closed like a bear trap. I should say that I never made it past cub scouts, don't want to be accused of stolen valor.
@Wanderer_of_Sol
@Wanderer_of_Sol 2 жыл бұрын
@@dynamicworlds1 Oh yeah, knife laws in the US are probably some of the worst written laws I've seen. Like, I'm currently living in New Jersey, which has dramatically different knife laws than other states I've lived in. But also I noticed some fun things like no mention of legal blade length, no definitions of the banned weapons, and the terms used in the laws (namely "Dagger" and "Dirk") are basically defined as "whatever the court feels like they mean on that particular day. Where some other states will at least have the decency of defining a "dagger" as "any fixed bladed knife of X blade length and above, that is sharpened on both edges of the blade." In NJ a fillet knife can be considered a "dagger" if the fish and game warden really wants to ruin your day. Which leads me to another thing Matt said. Do police in the UK not intentionally want to cause costs and damages to the people? He mentions that things cause transactional costs for everyone involved. In the US our cops have quota of tickets to write and fines to give out, and they typically don't even care if it'll be thrown out in court because they'll never see repercussions personally, and generally the people pay more than the state loses, so it's profitable to just mess with the citizens :/
@gamer85p
@gamer85p 2 жыл бұрын
Have experienced a police misunderstanding first hand, had most of my collection seized and had to take it to the crown courts to get it all back. Glad that the mistake was rectified and I got it all back
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry that you had to go through that.
@Candlemancer
@Candlemancer 2 жыл бұрын
And they wonder why more and more law abiding citizens hate their guts, when they spend more time trying to hurt us than actually policing real crime.
@zolikoff
@zolikoff 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda funny though that the responsibility is on you, while police will not face any sort of consequences for not knowing how to apply the law properly. You struggle for a year or two through courts, and by the end of it they just have to say "sorry our bad, here's them stuff back!".
@Spetulhu
@Spetulhu 2 жыл бұрын
@@zolikoff Aye, but then again the police might fear being put on report if they aren't being thorough. Or they might even be protesting unclear directions by some so-called "malicious compliance".
@Likexner
@Likexner 2 жыл бұрын
Did you get any compensation?
@JackBlack-gh5yf
@JackBlack-gh5yf 2 жыл бұрын
Probably falling on deaf ears unfortunately. I had some knives taken from my house about 10 years ago. No charges were ever brought. Half the items taken 'went missing', and it took me 3 years to have the other items returned. The police are a law unto themselves.
@LOCATIONREDACTED
@LOCATIONREDACTED 2 жыл бұрын
If you were very wealthy, they would have had them back to you within a few days.
@Ve-suvius
@Ve-suvius 2 жыл бұрын
They act like the mafia. Many cops steal what they find on people. This is well known. There are good people among the police force. But there are also quite a few who love to misuse the badge, because their morals aren't as it should be. And that's pretty bad . The cop becomes the rapist so to speak.
@G-Mastah-Fash
@G-Mastah-Fash 2 жыл бұрын
I hope a cosa nostra forms because of this. The police deserve the headache.
@killaken2000
@killaken2000 2 жыл бұрын
True. Seizing things that aren't illegal is not a mistake. They simply don't care and never will.
@granddukeofmecklenburg
@granddukeofmecklenburg 2 жыл бұрын
The UK is a pathetic state...your laws are so far beyond absurd, it's hard to believe it even exists.
@citizenoftheninthdivision
@citizenoftheninthdivision 2 жыл бұрын
"Please sir, if it please the crown, could I possibly use a butter knife for me toast?"
@Jacob-W-5570
@Jacob-W-5570 2 жыл бұрын
In the mean time the pictuer of the queen cutting a cake with a sword keeps going round the internet. It's a kitchen tool officer I promise!
@andrewnorris7642
@andrewnorris7642 2 жыл бұрын
You can't make this shit up
@robertpatter5509
@robertpatter5509 Жыл бұрын
Them: No. Use a toothpick Also them: That's a toothpick rapier!
@RVMTube
@RVMTube 2 жыл бұрын
Remember kids, always blame the object (the inanimate object), never the assailant. The assailant we protect and their motivations, intentions and identity we hide and protect. Another law that oppresses and alienates law abiding private individuals and does nothing to prevent crime.
@GunChronicles
@GunChronicles 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Why punish individuals when the powers that be can take advantage of the situation and demonize inanimate objects that they don't won't the general population to have access to. Remember people, kings and tyrants prefer unarmed peasants.
@timogul
@timogul 2 жыл бұрын
Inanimate objects are not people, they have no rights to protect. Punish people who commit crimes wherever possible, but if you can keep innocent weapons out of those mean criminals hands in the first place, you can stop crimes _before_ they happen.
@timogul
@timogul 2 жыл бұрын
@Eric Nunya The UK violent crime rate is tracked differently than in the US, they consider things like bar fights to be a "violent crime," whereas the US does not. Most importantly, their crime rate did not go UP in any significant way when they banned guns, so the idea that "guns keep crime down" is definitely wrong.
@BlastedKat
@BlastedKat 2 жыл бұрын
As an American I can't wrap my head around this. In high school practically even one of us had a knife in our pocket or in a case on our belt. In my four years of high school there was not a single problem.
@timogul
@timogul 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlastedKat Yes, knives typically are not a problem, and "knife control" is typically only raised as a bad faith whataboutism against gun control. Guns, on the other hand _are_ a very serious problem.
@johnstuartkeller5244
@johnstuartkeller5244 2 жыл бұрын
Heartening to hear this argument; disheartening to have to hear it. Thank you, Matt.
@charliedurnford3277
@charliedurnford3277 2 жыл бұрын
“A man's natural rights are his own, against the whole world; and any infringement of them is equally a crime, whether committed by one man, or by millions; whether committed by one man, calling himself a robber, (or by any other name indicating his true character,) or by millions, calling themselves a government.” - Lysander Spooner
@M.M.83-U
@M.M.83-U 2 жыл бұрын
Natural rights do not exist. Right exist by law only.
@dlmiller7873
@dlmiller7873 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. The more people understand that, the more freedom humanity will enjoy.
@charliemeade8642
@charliemeade8642 2 жыл бұрын
I guess taking vegetable peelers off old people doesn't do it for them anymore.
@DavidNefelimSlayer
@DavidNefelimSlayer 2 жыл бұрын
Your finger and toe nails and teeth are dangerous, your fingers may lend themselves to holding instruments of blunt force or other traumas, they should be seized immediately.
@danioshea
@danioshea 2 жыл бұрын
This is something that - as someone who makes and sells knives and axes, which sometimes need posting to the customer - I come up against fairly often. For example, in the service you mention - ParcelForce - their "general prohibitions" show bladed items (including swords, scissors, kitchen knives, etc.) as "cannot be sent". There is no mention of an exception to this on an age-verified service, and that service isn't listed in the sending options (I presume it's something you select as part of another service). I've also had the Post Office/Royal Mail who DO allow knives and other items to be posted refuse me at the counter, pointing to a large picture of a knife on their "Weapons" category, as some sort of proof that knives cannot be sent. The picture of the knife was of a Bowie knife, which CAN BE SENT under their rules! It's baffling.
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 2 жыл бұрын
With a Parcelforce Business Account you arrange with them the things you will be sending. You can send firearms and ammunition with Parcelforce, if that's what you have arranged with them under your Business Account agreement. It's a good service and I have never had any problems with them.
@zoiders
@zoiders 2 жыл бұрын
Last time I sent a parcel I did not have to answer a single question as to the contents?
@morriganmhor5078
@morriganmhor5078 2 жыл бұрын
Tried to obtain specific moon clips - completely harmless - from US and GB to no avail. It´s somehow a weapon??
@zoiders
@zoiders 2 жыл бұрын
@@morriganmhor5078 Ammunition component from another country? yeah good luck with that. 😂
@kez0o9
@kez0o9 2 жыл бұрын
@@morriganmhor5078 I was told it's illegal to import any weapon components from the us to uk I tried buying a metal stock for a deactivated uzi I once owned
@karllambert2350
@karllambert2350 2 жыл бұрын
When laws are illogical , they should be removed.
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Having worked as a civil servant for many years, we enacted policy based on evidence. But UK law doesn't seem to work like that - it seems rarely based on evidence, and once enacted it seems to rarely be assessed for effectiveness. If a policy doesn't work, then it should be corrected or reversed, but that barely ever happens in UK law as far as I can see.
@JamesBiggar
@JamesBiggar 2 жыл бұрын
They should be disobeyed first and foremost, otherwise they're legitimized. The only authority anyone really has over you is what you relinquish.
@ExtraVictory
@ExtraVictory 2 жыл бұрын
@@JamesBiggar I'm assuming you're an American citizen like me, since you seem to be making a libertarian type of argument. Well as Americans we have the right to own and often carry concealed firearms. And yet criminals don't have those rights lol. Do you really want to disobey the law for no reason and put your ability to defend yourself with lethal force into jeopardy? I was born in Japan, born abroad, in a country where about 15 people die from gun violence every year. In a country of 130 million, it just doesn't happen. Maybe it's possible to take a risk like that in a country where nobody else has guns either. But it just seems really stupid to me to intentionally disobey a law just to make a point and potentially put yourself at the mercy of everyone else around you who will still have the ability to carry and own guns. At that point what's your plan? Continue to carry and own guns now that you're a criminal and risk even more, like your freedom? That seems to be a death spiral. Just obey the law lol.
@Leftyotism
@Leftyotism 2 жыл бұрын
They definately should! But who would do it? Politicians usually want to be popular with the masses, in order to be able to make decicions. And the so called masses, well I don't want to get startet on that.
@fatpad00
@fatpad00 2 жыл бұрын
But think of the children! /s
@wulfgreyhame6857
@wulfgreyhame6857 2 жыл бұрын
I use a device capable of causing massive injury or death on a daily basis. Nobody stops me. Apart from traffic lights obviously.
@zumbazumba1
@zumbazumba1 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why they have metal detectors and car barriers in germany for cristmas fairs .Cultural enritchment!
@Regolith86
@Regolith86 2 жыл бұрын
The Nice, France terrorist attack with a truck still has a higher body count than any mass shooting in the US. That includes the Las Vegas shooting.
@davidradich9342
@davidradich9342 2 жыл бұрын
Anything can be a weapon. The most deadly is the human mind.
@Lemonjellow
@Lemonjellow 2 жыл бұрын
Technically the light doesn't stop you, just your willingness to not risk the consequences of running it. Ie. Wreck, death, ticket...
@robertmiller2831
@robertmiller2831 2 жыл бұрын
I believe seizing something that is legal to own is called theft wether it is seized by police or civilians.
@docstockandbarrel
@docstockandbarrel 2 жыл бұрын
Law isn’t concerned with facts.
@DjDolHaus86
@DjDolHaus86 2 жыл бұрын
If they give you a receipt and a legal means to reacquire your possessions then it's not theft, it's kind of like the difference between taxes and racketeering
@pestisthebestspaghettikeys6944
@pestisthebestspaghettikeys6944 2 жыл бұрын
@@DjDolHaus86 So if I go into a shop and take a TV without paying and leave a little note telling them to come fight me in court to see who should have it, that's okay?
@DjDolHaus86
@DjDolHaus86 2 жыл бұрын
@@pestisthebestspaghettikeys6944 If I stab you with a scalpel can I get away with saying I was performing emergency surgery? No, because I'm not a doctor.
@pestisthebestspaghettikeys6944
@pestisthebestspaghettikeys6944 2 жыл бұрын
@@DjDolHaus86 Just proving my point buddy, without a genuinely acceptable reason to do things to other people, it is wrong. Taking someones personal belongings before ensuring they are actually a bad person/shouldn't have those things is not a morally correct thing to do.
@spinningdragontao
@spinningdragontao 2 жыл бұрын
Beware: One of my students was prosecuted for a Tai Chi Chuan straight sword aka Jian/ Gim. He had been practising his sword form in a quiet area of meadow near a forest. A member of the public had seen him and reported it to the police. They would not listen to his protests that it wasn't a curved sword and even though he got a weapons expert testimony he still ended up with a caution to save him going to court as his solicitor told him they'd convict him. It is crazy that in China you can have these swords and broadswords plus other weapons and they are very serious about law and order but here "in the Free West" such a thing will lead to a criminal conviction.
@knightmareza9478
@knightmareza9478 2 жыл бұрын
As much of a mess as my country is, at least in south africa the law for melee weapons is that you can have whatever you want just don't harm or threaten people with them. Kind of necessary considering how many different cultures here use various spears and effectively swords as part of their traditions and culture.
@ShuRugal
@ShuRugal 2 жыл бұрын
The West has always been exactly the same amount of "Free" as the DPRK is "Democratic"
@Kumari_44
@Kumari_44 2 жыл бұрын
In a country where at an alarming rate, kids are stabbing up other kids with zombie knives like its a game of gta… are you really surprised about the changes to the laws?!
@ShuRugal
@ShuRugal 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kumari_44 ah yes, "We don't want to hold people accountable for their actions, so we're going to make their possessions illegal and pretend that solves the problem." always a timeless classic.
@Shyhalu
@Shyhalu Жыл бұрын
@@knightmareza9478 That is only law because your government is pushing the masses of brainlets to commit genocide against its immigrant white and Indian suburbs.
@jmbsoutho
@jmbsoutho 2 жыл бұрын
*UK Police watching this video* ... background full of offensive curved swords...hmmm...*adds to visit list*
@hattyfarbuckle
@hattyfarbuckle 2 жыл бұрын
I have also worked for the UK Civil Service and seen appeal and financial decisions made that don't follow the law because the training and guidance doesn't follow the law. I expect in many cases UK police officers are assuming the directions from senior officers have a legal basis or don't want to rock the boat.
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 2 жыл бұрын
I have personally had an exchange with a young police officer who had been told something completely wrong by his superior. He thanked me for the clarification.
@Leftyotism
@Leftyotism 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda sad how citizens are supposed to read the law, but officers are seemingly just supposed to take orders.
@ukmediawarrior
@ukmediawarrior 2 жыл бұрын
Because its a well known fact that the majority of knife crimes in the UK are done by samurai swords, right? I mean they blend in so well, no one would ever know your carrying one. Ok, I know there have been idiots who have attacked people with a sword, but if you compare those to people who die by say, a kitchen knife, or an axe, or anything else you can buy legally at a DIY store or through Amazon, then they become inconsequential. It boggles the mind that the police spend so much time on this rather than actual crimes taking place. If you need a police officer when something is happen good luck on that after they keep you on the 999 call for half an hour as they try to find a police car willing to take the call!!!
@fuckgoogle2554
@fuckgoogle2554 2 жыл бұрын
Or, you know, people who die by cars and trucks. Is the government going to ban these too?
@vorynrosethorn903
@vorynrosethorn903 2 жыл бұрын
The katana and the machete are particularly the only two you will ever see outside of the humble kitchen knife. The katana because it is the most prominent sword in popular culture and appeals to nobheads (which most gang members are) and the criminally insane (the law came in when a nutter tried to kill an MP with one, occasionally they are seen in the most batshit gang skirmishes and a terrorist attacked police with one a few years back). The machete because it's brutal, cheap and something which doesn't draw much heat to own (unless you live in a flat without garden access or like posing for photos on social media with it) or buy.
@jasonbrody8724
@jasonbrody8724 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much word for word argument against gun control in the US
@ukmediawarrior
@ukmediawarrior 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonbrody8724 You have a point, but that would be like saying 90% of the British public own a samurai sword for protection, which they don't. Also a gun, of any type, can kill multiple people at range and quite easily whereas you have to catch your victim to hurt them with a sword. Gun control in the States is out of control despite the constant mass shootings.
@Leftyotism
@Leftyotism 2 жыл бұрын
And as if a ciminal would give a damn about carrying a legal knife anyways. -.-
@datpolakmike
@datpolakmike 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it fun when police enforce their whims instead of the law? And that's to say nothing of how objectively pointless laws can sometimes be
@atom8248
@atom8248 2 жыл бұрын
@Edohiguma quit what?
@Metatropian
@Metatropian 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes? Try virtually always.
@4hedgesfamily
@4hedgesfamily 2 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of friends who are LEOs (Law Enforcement Officers). On the whole, most law enforcement people are pretty decent, men and women who volunteer to do an often thankless job where people are pissed off when they show up. I won't deny there are some with very heavy badges who abuse their authority. Either way, they are all human, and subject to human error. And sometimes they are misinformed, which is why I hope they'll take Matt's advice to heart.
@Leftyotism
@Leftyotism 2 жыл бұрын
One time I forgot to check the new weapon law changes, and they took away my locking one-handed-opening knife, and then sent me a letter that it will get destroyed. Even though I was allowed to own it legally at home, I should have gotten it back. Thank goodness it was only a cheap knife back then. And of course they didn't file any charges. I guess I should have felt lucky that I didn't get any charges but "only" the knife would be destroyed. Or maybe it just fell under "too little to put in the work" and "being missinformed". I can't honestly tell, maybe a mixture of both. lol
@datpolakmike
@datpolakmike 2 жыл бұрын
@@4hedgesfamily that's a false pretense. Being misinformed and "human error" has nothing to do with it. There's been far too much overt malice and authoritarianism expressed by police for me to be willing to accept that excuse anymore.
@beachday4439
@beachday4439 2 жыл бұрын
With the high number of officers who have to be retrained on new laws to uphold. They probably just watched a brief PowerPoint slideshow on the new edged weapon law. Spending the time and money to sit down and retrain any type of large workforce is bound to have a large number of people misunderstand it.
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I did not state this in the video, but I have seen police training materials that listed 'lock knives' as prohibited illegal weapons. Which is wrong. Someone got their facts confused and then issued that advice to various police forces around the country.... In any other industry, that would definitely lead to someone high up losing their job.
@fatpad00
@fatpad00 2 жыл бұрын
Police misunderstand the law? "Oops. Sorry, we already melted it." And yet if the common citizen misunderstands the law? "Throw the book at em. Ignorance is no excuse!" Welcome to the police force, where our standards are so high, they've doubled!
@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y 2 жыл бұрын
Just give them photos of legal/illegal items, with a ✅ or a 🚫
@danielskipp1
@danielskipp1 2 жыл бұрын
For the record: UK Customs and Police forced me [by plea bargaining with another "offence"] to confess to importing an automatic "flick knife" when it was a legal-to-import and possess folding lock knife with flipper and thumb stud that gets sold by the score in the UK every day. No surprise the police were utterly ignorant of the law and didn't give a damn that they had zero evidence of it actually being a flick knife, not even a picture. Contemptible.
@kevinmorrice
@kevinmorrice 2 жыл бұрын
your nowhere near the first person to take issue with the police here, so just get in line
@jeffprice6421
@jeffprice6421 2 жыл бұрын
Never ever plea. You take the b urden of proof of the police when you do that, and you are admitting guilt...
@danielskipp1
@danielskipp1 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffprice6421 Seems like you don't appreciate how and why plea bargaining works. They threaten a greater charge for something you will be convicted of if you don't confess to a lesser charge.
@BeetleBuns
@BeetleBuns 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielskipp1 if they could actually convict you of the greater charge, they wouldn't be bargaining with you my dude
@kevinmorrice
@kevinmorrice 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeetleBuns had a buddy got arrested for buying a machete, police said it was "a dangerous weapon" but my buddy was a farmer and bought it to clear overgrown bushes to ready a field for sheep. he appealed the charge, and got 6 months for "perjury" judge said "only reason anyone would need a machete is to attack someone"
@SigurdStormhand
@SigurdStormhand 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, almost every folding pocket knife has a simple flat spring that locks the blade so you don't cut yourself. My father actually had one without a spring-lock and it was a certified finger nipper when you put your thumb on the back of the blade.
@ktoth29
@ktoth29 2 жыл бұрын
What gets me is when my local park ranger tells me I'm not allowed to practice in public, with a plastic waster that is clearly not a sword. And I live in a state where it is perfectly legal to carry a concealed handgun in that same park without a permit.
@hirsutuscanis
@hirsutuscanis 10 ай бұрын
America is world amirite? There are no other countries only other states.
@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives
@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives 2 жыл бұрын
The hours I spent writing to the Home Secretary(both of them...) the Post Office etc during the consultation of this act, I even got the knife icon changed to a machine pistol on the Post Office "Weapons" sections as knives/scissors are "restricted" not "prohibited" and the counter staff always looked up "a knife" on their icon help sheet and placed "knife" as "weapon" therefore BANNED!!! I had to get this sorted just so the whole "delivery to a home address" notion had a chance of being saved and between yourself and others such as me busting our balls trying to defend fixed blades, folding knives, sabres, katanas, machetes, from being not just being unable to be posted to a home address but also getting made illegal in a nanny state knee jerk, but lately it is the "import" problem where UK Border Force open any and everything (banggood, aliexpress and Ganzo etc) so a lock knife being imported is "not allowed to carry" so it gets seized, then they get the Police to call around, then they can photo a table of surrendered and seized lock knives along with the pizza cutters, cheese knives and froes and claim they're saving lives. Keep on fighting the good fight Matt, as there are always people out there who misread, misunderstand or don't know what they are on about but are in positions of power and won't be told.
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 2 жыл бұрын
You don't NEED a knife, axe or machete. Do all your cutting with a herring! (According to a documentary I saw on King Arthur)
@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives
@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives 2 жыл бұрын
@@MonkeyJedi99 haha, or indeed your 'sharp ' wit, 😄
@Rikortez
@Rikortez 2 жыл бұрын
What a joke of a country.
@dp0004
@dp0004 2 жыл бұрын
The laws to cover the fears of others is impossible.
@canadianeh4792
@canadianeh4792 2 жыл бұрын
There need to be serious consequences for police officers who seize property illegally, even if it is just a result of ignorance.
@olympusentertainment2638
@olympusentertainment2638 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it that ignorance of the law doesn't exclude you for being punished.
@OutOfNamesToChoose
@OutOfNamesToChoose 2 жыл бұрын
Theft is usually a punishable crime. Theft while in a uniform should be considered even worse; a form of corruption.
@dashcammer4322
@dashcammer4322 2 жыл бұрын
Hanging would deter this kind of PC Plod behavior.
@Candlemancer
@Candlemancer 2 жыл бұрын
They should lose their jobs immediately and be barred from working so much as supermarket security. Police officers don't get to be ignorant of the law when it's literally their job, any illegal act they commit should *always* be treated as malicious.
@SirKanti1
@SirKanti1 2 жыл бұрын
Just an apology and re-training should be enough
@RamsesTheFourth
@RamsesTheFourth 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad we don't have any knife restricting laws like this in my country. Not that I own any swords,... but I can if I want to:)
@zolikoff
@zolikoff 2 жыл бұрын
There should be a public push/advocacy to remove restrictions on existing things. Otherwise, if you only ever fight against the introduction of new restrictions, eventually the anti-people push through, bit by bit. If you have any kind of laws that restrict anything that is a "weapon" or "dangerous tool", unless you fight to remove them, you will find yourself with knives made illegal too. Once the precedent is there they will just use it for more restrictions. So, if eg. gun ownership is restricted in your country, you should think about what can be done to undo that. Seriously.
@skepticalbadger
@skepticalbadger 2 жыл бұрын
So can we in the UK. The only restriction is on curved blades over a certain length, and the 'traditionally made' exemption, while vague, means you can buy basically anything.
@Regolith86
@Regolith86 2 жыл бұрын
Where do you live? Because if it's in the US, there are a lot of dumb knife laws, but it's state by state. New York for instance has some really dumb knife laws, and the police in New York City are notorious for interpreting the laws far more broadly than warranted. Many states have laws that ban or restrict the carry of knives like switchblades, daggers, dirks, sword canes, etc. I'm lucky to live in one of the few states that has pretty much no ownership restrictions, and very few carry restrictions (basically, carry what you want, but if it's a "restricted" knife like an automatic knife or dagger it can't be concealed).
@dynamicworlds1
@dynamicworlds1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Regolith86 often municipality-by-municipality even.
@RJLbwb
@RJLbwb 2 жыл бұрын
@@Regolith86 the laws on nunchucks just have to be the silliest. One of my friends was almost arrested once coming back from camping because some dimwit sheriff's deputy though his three legged, collapsing camp stool was "that be deadly numchucks' " Apparently US police goes by movies for what are the naughty weapons when lobbying for weapon restriction laws.
@GjVj
@GjVj 2 жыл бұрын
Working exactly as intended, feature not a bug, and all that. In case you haven't been paying attention for the last two years (to pick a timeframe totally at random) the ruling class is simply fucking with us, the plebs, at this point, and pretty much daring us to do something about it. Which is alarming. And, the fact that I may have to worry about a knock on the door for expressing my opinion in this way ought to tell you something about the state of this 'free' country. Anyway, changing the subject - rope is cheap, in plentiful supply, and has many interesting uses....
@jcumber4341
@jcumber4341 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigredwolf6 Who do you think the rope's for?
@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y 2 жыл бұрын
Not an exact quote, but a politician said something similar, when talking about the pandemic: ''...the positive is that we, the elites, have learned to cooperate more effectively''
@MorgenPeschke
@MorgenPeschke 2 жыл бұрын
I really don't want this to come across as condescending, and I acknowledge that it's probably going to, but it's really not meant to: As an American watching this, your utter faith in the goodness of the system was kind of adorable.
@jarkkovahamaa7272
@jarkkovahamaa7272 2 жыл бұрын
Systems are different in different countries. Many countries have good systems. I have never lived in either America so can't comment on those.
@lukedaniel7669
@lukedaniel7669 2 жыл бұрын
The video's aimed at police officers who want to interpret the law correctly. Pissing off those officers is highly unlikely to make them listen to what he's trying to say.
@cargo_vroom9729
@cargo_vroom9729 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this. To the extent that I have trouble believing Matt believes that the police are actually well intentioned. Saying they are seems performative, a polite flattery no one believes. The actual arguments he presents are that their lives will be easier and involve less paperwork if they don't oppress people.
@tevarinvagabond1192
@tevarinvagabond1192 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukedaniel7669 they aren't listening anyway, lmao.
@Child_of_the_lie
@Child_of_the_lie Жыл бұрын
Shut up then, lol
@kacperwoch4368
@kacperwoch4368 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile here in Poland you can buy all kinds of knives and swords on a almost every shopping mall.
@zolikoff
@zolikoff 2 жыл бұрын
What's still needed is to have constitutional gun ownership too and then it's all fine.
@Ve-suvius
@Ve-suvius 2 жыл бұрын
That's how things like the Mafia come to life: "The Mafia, a network of organized-crime groups based in Italy and America, evolved over centuries in Sicily, an island ruled until the mid-19th century by a long line of foreign invaders. Sicilians banded together in groups to protect themselves and carry out their own justice. In Sicily, the term “mafioso,” or Mafia member, initially had no criminal connotations and was used to refer to a person who was suspicious of central authority. By the 19th century, some of these groups emerged as private armies, or “mafie,” who extorted protection money from landowners and eventually became the violent criminal organization known today as the Sicilian Mafia. The American Mafia, which rose to power in the 1920s, is a separate entity from the Mafia in Italy, although they share such traditions as omerta, a code of conduct and loyalty." If the authorities start to take away rights of the people. What are the people supposed to do? Act like slaves? I'm not supporting the Mafia. But there's a limit to what the law enforcers can do without having negative effect on the people. Action = reaction.
@Likexner
@Likexner 2 жыл бұрын
The government is basically just the most powerful gang occupying a certain territory.
@arlen_95
@arlen_95 2 жыл бұрын
As always I'm deeply impressed by your calm rationality, professionalism, and assumption of good faith! You're speaking to police and presuming that they were well intentioned but simply misunderstood various technical aspects of the law. And you're pointing out how wrongful seizure isn't only a problem for the owner of the locking knive(s) and/or curved sword(s) but it also presents a host of challenges to police, from time and money wasted to damaging community trust. If you just started trashing the police for their wrongful seizure then they wouldn’t listen to you and the problem would persist. But your professional communication strategy is the best way to correct a false assumption and address the issue. Keep up the great work!
@Simon_Nonymous
@Simon_Nonymous 2 жыл бұрын
well said Arlen.
@robertmanson5922
@robertmanson5922 2 жыл бұрын
05:20 they will be after nail clippers now 🤣
@carbon1255
@carbon1255 2 жыл бұрын
You think that's funny but you want to bet they haven't seized them?
@rbrpvk9166
@rbrpvk9166 2 жыл бұрын
A deterrent example of what laws and police practices are not supposed to look like
@garywheeley5108
@garywheeley5108 2 жыл бұрын
If you want a deterrent how about stadium someone to death you hang no if no buts......no your out in someone cases 10/12 years....
@garywheeley5108
@garywheeley5108 2 жыл бұрын
Stabbing ###
@jakekillify
@jakekillify 2 жыл бұрын
Did you hear about those Hoodlums from Manchester? They have Curved swords. Curved. Swords.
@hattyfarbuckle
@hattyfarbuckle 2 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about the Peterloo Massacre?
@knottheory79220
@knottheory79220 2 жыл бұрын
I came looking for this, was not disappointed.
@TF_NowWithExtraCharacters
@TF_NowWithExtraCharacters 2 жыл бұрын
I do hope more people see this video. Not because of the topic (which is ultimately UK-focused), but the approach. If you want to see what a genuine attempt at opening conversation looks like, this is a good example.
@dmcarpenter2470
@dmcarpenter2470 2 жыл бұрын
Matt: I am in the States. I still watched. Splendid video. Good info, simply explained, without talking down. Top marks
@dimebagdarrel00
@dimebagdarrel00 2 жыл бұрын
"THEY HAVE CURVED SWORDS.... CUUUURVED SWOOORDS"
@MercutioUK2006
@MercutioUK2006 2 жыл бұрын
Black Belt Barrister has some exacting videos on this subject...and he IS a lawyer. Worth checking out.
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 2 жыл бұрын
He has some very useful videos on knife law, but not on either of these issues as far as I have seen. I have suggested that we do a collaboration on this. Feel free to suggest it to him.
@MercutioUK2006
@MercutioUK2006 2 жыл бұрын
@@scholagladiatoria I'm sure he covers locking knives in one of his videos (may have been under self-defence but he does address the right to carry etc) but you're correct, nothing on curved swords. The fact that the likes of yourself have to make the offer to "educate" the Police is rather indicative of the murky state of the current laws. Hope some clarification is in order!
@charliedurnford3277
@charliedurnford3277 2 жыл бұрын
If an action doesn’t have a victim, it is a *natural right* . It doesn’t matter what some people write down and call ‘law’ “Since no individual acting separately can lawfully use force to destroy the rights of others, does it not logically follow that the same principle also applies to the common force (state force), which is nothing more than the organized combination of the individual forces?” - Frédéric Bastiat
@TheRozzers
@TheRozzers Жыл бұрын
I am a police Constable, and I carry a Gerber ‘Diesel’ multi-tool where all the tools lock, including the small blade. I was brought here as my Sgt told me today that my tool is breaking the law because locking knives are illegal, because they lock. Now I like to think I am knowledgeable, particularly when it comes to such important legislation which helps to prevent serious injury/death but, conversely, can infringe upon peoples basic rights. I was genuinely surprised by the comments made to me, which were enough to make me re-check the legislation and also brought me here out of curiosity. I have to say that, even in todays ‘current climate’ (we all love that phrase don’t we..) I will still employ common-sense when it comes to people I find with different types of knife, although there are many colleagues around the country who will nick immediately and let the court decide whether the defendant had a ‘good reason’ for doing so. I had to respectfully tell my Sgt she was wrong but I’m glad I triple checked as I felt bad that I may be breaking the law, which in fact I was not..! Great video - thank you 👍
@David0lyle
@David0lyle 2 жыл бұрын
I find it all rather odd that the locking knives are considered particularly hazardous. If one were really anticipating violence a fixed blade would almost certainly be the first choice. Actually the inexpensive kitchen knives with a sturdy thick blade would really probably be more suitable for violence than any blade on any common multi tool that I know about. 🤔
@timexplorer9708
@timexplorer9708 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's a consequence that once locked, they are effectively fixed blade knifes, but with the advantage that they can be nefariously concealed. But it doesn't practically make any sense when most are normal tool knives that would be useless as a weapon.
@Boatswainbill
@Boatswainbill 2 жыл бұрын
Self defense is a human right. Having access to the best self defense tools is a human right.
@theaccount628
@theaccount628 7 ай бұрын
UK doesn’t agree with you. Neither did the Founding Fathers of the United States. And neither do I!
@TheNuttyKnifeGuy
@TheNuttyKnifeGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I live in the United States and I'm just shaking my head while watching this. In some states, there are laws that are almost ridiculous as what you're talking about here. But, in the state that I live in (Ohio) you can carry any kind of blade you want to and even conceal them. The basic rule of law is that unless you use a knife in a criminal manner like assault, murder, or robbery the knife is legal. Basically, a knife is legal until you do something illegal with it I routinely carry a fixed-blade with a five-inch blade openly and an assisted opening, liner lock folder in my pocket. Large, locking folders clipped in people's pockets are common. It's in the states and cities that have to most restrictive weapons laws (both guns and knives) where violent crimes are most prevalent. It seems to me that the people (in any country) making these restrictions are either ignorant about the weapons and tools they're restricting and criminalizing. Either they want the people to be helpless and dependent on the government with a monopoly on the legal use of force for protection against the true criminal element. Dependence is a great means of control.
@ktoth29
@ktoth29 2 жыл бұрын
I also live in Ohio and I've had local law enforcement tell me I'm not allowed to use a plastic waster in a public park because its a simulated weapon.
@TheNuttyKnifeGuy
@TheNuttyKnifeGuy 2 жыл бұрын
@@ktoth29 Ohio passed SB140 but some cities have different laws and state preemption hasn't gotten through yet.
@zolikoff
@zolikoff 2 жыл бұрын
"unless you use a knife in a criminal manner like assault, murder, or robbery the knife is legal. Basically, a knife is legal until you do something illegal with it" Common sense says that that should apply to the ownership of any object, right? Unless you use it in a crime, or unless it, on its own, is capable of causing some sort of great harm (eg. improperly stored explosives in large amount), it should never be "illegal".
@TomDingleby
@TomDingleby 2 жыл бұрын
@@zolikoff Hitting someone with a lamp can make it a deadly weapon. Do we ban lamps?
@zolikoff
@zolikoff 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomDingleby That is exactly where this logic leads unfortunately. If you allow the banning of anything at all based on "it is a deadly weapon", you open the door for everything to be banned.
@davidmao6538
@davidmao6538 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video matt. We all appreciate your efforts 👌👏👏👏
@AndyColglazier
@AndyColglazier 2 жыл бұрын
Well, good luck speaking truth to power.
@tannergeldert7705
@tannergeldert7705 2 жыл бұрын
I am confused are they just going to people's houses to confiscate, or is it more like they are there for unrelated reasons then find the knives and swords and then confiscate them? As an American (and longtime viewer of you content) every time i watch one of your videos on UK laws pertaining to weapons and such, it is always strange and frustrating to me what you guys have to go through.
@alec4025
@alec4025 2 жыл бұрын
I would imagine its happening during shipping at the post office or wherever else. Police wont just randomly walk into your house and go ooh a knife
@AntonGully
@AntonGully 2 жыл бұрын
@@alec4025 Yet.
@zoiders
@zoiders 2 жыл бұрын
Its not happening at all. Just how do they know what you ordered? even if customs open a parcel they are not known for retaining legal knives. I think Matt is being bullshitted by people who were actually visited for other reasons. Very likely probationers or people on licence who are obliged to disclose internet browsing history.
@zoiders
@zoiders 2 жыл бұрын
@@alec4025 That requires a warrant. So no its not happening with Royal Mail or Parcel Force.
@cazador1022
@cazador1022 2 жыл бұрын
They deserve it, they are subjects of the crown
@ThatGuysProject
@ThatGuysProject 2 жыл бұрын
I've always seen most of the firearm and blade laws as being mostly useless laws that were only made so as to be soon to be doing something. They recently tried to sneak a restriction on .50 cal ammo and crossbows in a weapons bill after an acid attack. Collectors knives have been a sore topic for a while. As most knife crime is done with kitchen knives because they're the cheapest, most easily available and leave the same signature as most kitchen knives. As opposed to a unique one that would be left by say a curved blade. Not to mention self defence laws are deliberately a grey area.
@paulancill3872
@paulancill3872 2 жыл бұрын
The assistant Chef Constable of either Wiltshire or Gloucestershire was on the local news points west some months ago and said that locking knives were completely illegal even in your own home!
@jamesgurr7678
@jamesgurr7678 Жыл бұрын
I, for one, really appreciate the efforts you are going to to save our community (small as it is) of people who have an interest in edged tools whatever their legal purpose. I have a foot in two camps here as both a martial artist and a knife collector and enthusiast. It almost seems like border control seize whichever knives THEY might think are 'dangerous' willy nilly, without the buyer having much recourse to claim them back even if they are legal. It's an uphill battle, but as you said- we need to stick together on this one. Thanks again for being a voice of sanity in this mad situation. All the best, Jim
@jasondclark
@jasondclark 2 жыл бұрын
How many people will just decide it may not be worth it even if it is legal? After all, authoritarians never accidentally enforce non-existent laws, so it's probably a total accident. You all have my sympathies across the pond.
@matthewkirk
@matthewkirk 2 жыл бұрын
That's the point.
@moreparrotsmoredereks2275
@moreparrotsmoredereks2275 2 жыл бұрын
"We have to apply common sense to these things." How long have you lived in the UK, Matt?
@piotrmalewski8178
@piotrmalewski8178 Жыл бұрын
Common sense is that anyone will be far less eager to attack you with a knife, when they know you can pull out a knife as well. The current UK's law only serves criminals, leaving decent people defenceless.
@tzazosghost8256
@tzazosghost8256 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for this video. It's really important that to try to clarify this matter for everyone.
@gc2696
@gc2696 2 жыл бұрын
You've literally saved my (modest) collection of folders & fixed blades I'm moving to the UK & was thinking I'd have to get rid of them. You know how attached we knife nuts can get .... and there is NO way I'd commit a crime with an expensive piece of cutlery ....😂😪🙏🏻🙏🏻
@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y 2 жыл бұрын
UK police could assign more patrols to dangerous areas, but they'd rather treat inanimate objects as if they have supernatural powers. I wonder what they would do if people started using rocks and socks.
@robertgross1655
@robertgross1655 2 жыл бұрын
🎩Hi, I’ve owned a small lock knife, under 3” blade for over 30 years. Mainly for my safety because when I was 11 I was whittling a piece of wood with a normal folding knife and the blade folded back on its self and cut my finger down to the bone.
@Leftyotism
@Leftyotism 2 жыл бұрын
I literally feel that! xD I also learned painfully as a young lad to never to push or drill a slipjoint-knife into something relatively hard. xD
@BeetleBuns
@BeetleBuns 2 жыл бұрын
yup, I only use lockbacks for that very reason lol
@ziggarillo
@ziggarillo 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, If you're in the UK its probably best not to advertise that. The consequences of being caught are potentially considerable. Possession of an article with blade or point in a public place: section 139 CJA (Either way, maximum term of 4 years imprisonment on indictment) This section applies to any article which has a blade or is sharply pointed except a folding pocketknife, unless the blade of the folding pocketknife exceeds 3 inches (7.62cm).
@bobrobinson1576
@bobrobinson1576 2 жыл бұрын
I have a large scar on my thumb where a non-locking knife closed up on me severing a tendon. Non-locking knives should be the illegal ones.
@Ve-suvius
@Ve-suvius 2 жыл бұрын
Tri-Ad Lock for the win. Same reason I went as a kid from slip joints to locking knives. Nowadays I just carry a 9mm snap-off blade. To cut cardboard. It's work related. But also at home. And it's always on me, like the keys of my house.
@PhillipBicknell
@PhillipBicknell 2 жыл бұрын
Matt, I'm fairly sure the kitchen knife brand you showed isn't generally to be found on the High Street :-) But I'm so glad you've made this video and promoted the topic, thank you.
@kriegerkeepbees5881
@kriegerkeepbees5881 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video. We love to visit your beautiful country. We call Texas home. I am a fifth generation Texan and my kids and first grandchild are sixth and seventh. We have an almost unlimited right to openly carry any weapon or firearm. It is sad to me that this is a problem in the UK. I am also a member of the Armored Combat Worldwide team and hope to come fight in the future in the UK. Best wishes sorting out this issue.
@andytopley314
@andytopley314 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody share this with their MP! If we all shout at once we have a greater chance of being heard.
@NecroBanana
@NecroBanana 2 жыл бұрын
Oi m8 u got a loicense for ur curved swords? Curved! Swords!
@theecapitan
@theecapitan 2 жыл бұрын
Very important info in this video. Thanks Matt.
@Flamewolf14
@Flamewolf14 2 жыл бұрын
big props on this video it was very reasonable and understanding of the polices side of this situation also interesting as someone in a different country hearing about other laws in places
@ivanharlokin
@ivanharlokin 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Matt. Any idea, what constitutes a "curved sword"? I'm thinking specifically about single edged examples (such as messers), which might be ostensibly straight, but the blade curves towards the tip.
@inregionecaecorum
@inregionecaecorum 2 жыл бұрын
The clue is in the word "messer" they are machetes, not swords, simples. I wonder if plod have ever tried to measure a garden sickle?
@2bingtim
@2bingtim 2 жыл бұрын
Any curved blade 19" long or over. At least that was the measure when first bought in 2008.
@bobstitzenberger1834
@bobstitzenberger1834 2 жыл бұрын
I think a straight back would make it legal. Else almost all swords would be "curved swords"
@TheAtomicCross
@TheAtomicCross 2 жыл бұрын
Legal teams often consult experts when creating a defense. If anyone in the UK counts as an expert in edged items, pretty sure it's you.
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I have been contacted by lawyers for this - specifically in identifying whether a seized sword was antique or not.
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 2 жыл бұрын
@@scholagladiatoria Also in whether a sword is curved or not?
@MarkJones-el4gn
@MarkJones-el4gn 11 ай бұрын
I had a client with a sword stick at home it was surprising that the police and CPS never considered if it was an antique until a not guilty plea was entered and they obtained an expert report which placed it at over 100 years, and the case was discontinued
@BlackBeltBarrister
@BlackBeltBarrister 10 ай бұрын
Barrister here, great video! One rather important thing to add re curved swords. It is a defence to show that the sword was made before 1954 **OR** at **any other time using traditional methods of making swords by hand** Quote: _ a defence … to show that the weapon in question was made before 1954 or was made at any other time according to traditional methods of making swords by hand.]_
@BlackBeltBarrister
@BlackBeltBarrister 10 ай бұрын
Happy to hop on as a guest if that would be useful to you?
@prabshiro
@prabshiro 10 ай бұрын
So basically any modern katana made of carbon steel or traditional steel is legal.
@BlackBeltBarrister
@BlackBeltBarrister 10 ай бұрын
@@prabshiro It's the method, not the material that counts - but if it's good steel, chances are it's made properly.
@prabshiro
@prabshiro 10 ай бұрын
@@BlackBeltBarrister if you are a sikh. Are exempt from all of this ie. Curved swords even being japanese in origin. Seems so
@peach8685
@peach8685 2 жыл бұрын
They need to keep ther noses out of our legal hobbies.
@gaiusjuliuspleaser
@gaiusjuliuspleaser 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Cold Steel machete in the (rough) shape of a gladius. It's nothing special (It's Cold Steel after all) but the fact this double-edged stabbing sword legally qualifies as a tool in Belgium is just hilarious to me.
@mikesiley4897
@mikesiley4897 2 жыл бұрын
Are Belgium’s sword and knife laws as restrictive as the UK’s?
@gentlemanzackp6591
@gentlemanzackp6591 2 жыл бұрын
a friend bought a longsword form USA, he lives in Leicester UK. He got in trouble with customs and eventually the police for having a longsword. He keep commenting it is for decoration and HEMA only. He heven has a secure showcase and large safe (hunting safe) they had to remind him that the law was implemented a few years ago regarding all that. I really feel for him because he paid 2400+ USD total not counting the secure showcase and hunting safe. I am most certain there is a lobby combating that hare brained law. it took a few bad apples to ruin everything. :(
@user-hj7wl6rp5n
@user-hj7wl6rp5n 6 ай бұрын
I am a retired builder and a retired Army officer. I have a few screwdrivers with 10 inch shafts, they can be so much more dangerous and deadly than a four or five inch folding knife. I have practiced in throwing these screwdrivers and have become very proficient. It is not the tool but the person behind the tool. Make the penalty suit the crime, you cannot reduce crime by banning tools
@thorin693
@thorin693 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem problem with knife and weapon laws is the criminals don't follow them, with some scrap metal and a few simple hand tool's I can make a weapon, if I need to get rid of it for any reason I'm not out anything.
@tonybell771
@tonybell771 2 жыл бұрын
I am still a little confused in respect of "assisted opening knives" and regarding curved swords, the defence you described relating to Martial Artists. With over 45 years of martial history under my belt it may not be surprising to learn I have over the years acquired various tools of the trade, none of which see the light of day anymore, all of which are now in off site storage. I understood we had the defence of martial practice under previous guises of the laws, but I cannot identify where that actual defence is under current Acts. Equally we sought clarification in respect of assisted opening knives (which your knife in the video could be mistaken for?).. As a high level practitioner I am one of those who does take his actions and teaching seriously but on this I have no defined answers, only vagueness. ( and I should add, our solicitor was no further help) Any takers for a referenced - plain English - answer?
@isaacwright407
@isaacwright407 2 жыл бұрын
Watched this as an American to get a better perspective on how things are across the pond. Very informative video, Thank you!
@user-nt3wj9lu8b
@user-nt3wj9lu8b 2 жыл бұрын
Non-realeted topic comment. Today, in my basement I found my wooden greatsword that I've made when I was younger and I swang it couple times remembering old times when me and my friends trained "fencing" with "grappling" but it was more a fun game. Then I thought that is not very convenient to swing zweihander in that small room, so I position my self in Ox guard, then in posta de fenestra and pflug guard, then I used half swording so I fought that best way to use that kind of weapon is to use it more like a spear. It would be interesting if you as a HEMA practitioner would pondered the subject of using long weapons such as spears, two handed swords, poleaxes or daneaxes in small spaces: corridors, tower stairs, or caves, mines, thick forrest for more fantasy setting. I think it might be interesting and fun to think 'bout it.
@brianknezevich9894
@brianknezevich9894 2 жыл бұрын
When I made blades, I specifically looked up all the regulations for my customers possible before shipping. Well, at least the ones I can find. Don't want to make someone an expensive blade and then have them get in trouble for it, I'd feel really bad about that. I forget from the year I lived there if the UK has local weapons laws, as well, which can make things very confusing.
@zumbazumba1
@zumbazumba1 2 жыл бұрын
Its a birocratic clusterfuck ,most of time people cant find the law they are braking posted online,or it is so badly written you dont understand half of it.When you have a question about it and you actualy get a person that should know answer they are clueless. .How can people abide by the rules they dont know ?Not to mention that some governments change laws over night . Its a rigged system made to make a profit from fines. When they do sieze "illegal"knifes on customs of yours do they return it to you? They should do that if its legal to own in germany for example and you tried to sell it to someone in UK.
@Leftyotism
@Leftyotism 2 жыл бұрын
I think those apply mostly for carrying, not for transporting or using it on a plot that alows it. Or with (as we in Germany have it) "special purpose".
@Daveed56
@Daveed56 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see unarmed UK Police trying to relieve the Royal Horse Artillery of their "curved swords".
@lachlanjohnson9884
@lachlanjohnson9884 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to be doing a bicycle tour in the Uk and Europe next year and I carry both a Leatherman Surge and Signal, one for general use and repairs for my bicycle and gear and the other explicitly for camping. I also keep a Rough Ryder Sous folding Chef knife in my kitchen kit for food prep only (I never use my leathermans for reasons of food hygiene) . Would these reasons be classed as “Good Reasons” to keep stored in my bike bags as prescribed by UK Law?
@nicholausbuthmann1421
@nicholausbuthmann1421 4 ай бұрын
Thank You Good Sir For Laying Down The Letter of The Law For Everyone Involved !
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 2 жыл бұрын
It's only a matter of time before locking knives are banned simply because they can ban them with minimal resistance and the only reason kitchen knives aren't banned is because there will be resistance to such measures. There is a clear trend that may occasionally slow but it never ever reverses of: more and more restrictions on anything remotely dangerous. It will end up like living in a prison, where an inmate can only have any sort of tool if it's necessary for the work that's approved by the warden.
@stocktonjoans
@stocktonjoans 2 жыл бұрын
I can confirm this is true, had cause for the cops to come to my house, showed them a locking knife relevent to the situation and the officer interviewing me said it was "fine" to own
@user-ue6iv2rd1n
@user-ue6iv2rd1n 2 жыл бұрын
Why were they there in the first place?
@stocktonjoans
@stocktonjoans 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-ue6iv2rd1n my housemate hanged himself, the knife was the one i used to cut him down to see if he could be saved
@nilo70
@nilo70 2 жыл бұрын
Good afternoon Matt , and Cheers from California ! I read your pinned comment , makes sense to me. However , most of the comments did Exactly the opposite Ha ha ! “You can lead a horse to water , but you can’t make them drink”. Ain’t it the truth .
@TrevorTrottier
@TrevorTrottier 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, your demonstration 'two hand opening' locking blade knife looks like a crkt I have in Canada. Very smooooth opening
@RichardEnglander
@RichardEnglander 2 жыл бұрын
We have a section of society who keep stabbing each other and they are dragging us all down to the lowest common denominator. I think that maybe the knife laws in London should be different from those in rural Yorkshire where I live.
@mightylion4704
@mightylion4704 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@piotrmalewski8178
@piotrmalewski8178 Жыл бұрын
That's the British law for you; criminals can carry anything they want, just because they don't obey the law. (what a surprise!) Decent people can't carry anything because the do obey the law, so they are left defenceless against criminals. The best way to stop a knife attack on you, is to pull out a knife yourself. Or better yet a sword. That's why the UK has the worst knife crime stats in whole of Europe. Criminals know that the law makes them the only ones armed, so they feel invincible.
@RichardEnglander
@RichardEnglander Жыл бұрын
@@piotrmalewski8178 there was a time when a gentleman could carry a cane-sword... I was talking about home defense today, I think we should have far more rights to use force against an intruder. I'll leave it there... but protecting family is everything
@piotrmalewski8178
@piotrmalewski8178 Жыл бұрын
@@RichardEnglander I know what you mean and my sentinents exactly.
@Isambardify
@Isambardify 2 жыл бұрын
We could get all American about it and start carrying self defense swords everywhere. School stabbings could be prevented by having trained teachers with their concealed katanas! The only way to stop a bad guy with a sword is a good guy with a sword... And probably a half cloak just for the aesthetic. The news would be so anime!
@M.M.83-U
@M.M.83-U 2 жыл бұрын
That would be Dope!
@tackyman2011
@tackyman2011 2 жыл бұрын
"An armed society is a polite society."
@danielmarshall4587
@danielmarshall4587 Жыл бұрын
The "Peelers" don't want the rank and file having any sharp things, and will take any and all opportunities to have such things off the public. Great video MANY THANKS.
@mwalsh5757
@mwalsh5757 2 жыл бұрын
One of our family - a young kid who was only probably 16 at the time - was held by the police manning (of all places) the entrance to Parliament when he carried his locking scout knife with him on the tour. Despite, BTW, me asking before we’d left our rented flat if anyone had anything on them that could be a problem. It was during this visit to the UK we found out that locking knives were illegal there! He didn’t get arrested or anything, but he had to surrender his favorite knife to the authorities.
@yanhunt
@yanhunt 2 жыл бұрын
How would this relate to the Zombie knife laws? They refer to anything that may, or not be brightly coloured, that may or not have a serated blade - so an apple, a chair or a machete.
@cargo_vroom9729
@cargo_vroom9729 2 жыл бұрын
Matt, they aren't going to give up a pretext to hassle people at will. Police don't do that voluntarily. It's one of the primary ways they operate, even if it's just a petty leverage and intimidation to secure some goal they actually care about. I understand you may feel you had to make the attempt for the record. But it's actually depressing me to think you're looking at a situation this convenient for them and believe this is all a misunderstanding that can be cleared up. Police only listen to the courts, and then under protest.
@christopherweidow2634
@christopherweidow2634 2 жыл бұрын
Matt, would a pocket knife with a blade under 3" be considered "assisted opening" in the UK if it had a thumb stud on the side at the base of the blade where the hinge is? Isn't that technically there to "assist" with one-handed opening, or is the law restricted to spring and pully-based mechanisms? Thanks.
@kingbrick5965
@kingbrick5965 Жыл бұрын
Hi could you maybe clear something up as can't find answer any ware. Is it Legal to own a replica curved sword that is over 100cm length in this case a Bat,leth with blunt edge / no real edge as it is a handmade replcia only? As this is for my youtube and display item. Thank you
@bohort
@bohort 2 жыл бұрын
problem is criminals tend to do things illegally. curved swords are not unilaterally more dangerous than straight ones, but neither belong at the local swimming pool. but that doesn't mean either should be illegal to have in your own home.
@bohort
@bohort 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcogenovesi8570 nobody promising criminals are sane buddy, I see what you mean but there are a couple of sword crimes a year over here (real ones not just owning a bent piece of steel)
@JamesBiggar
@JamesBiggar 2 жыл бұрын
@@bohort There will always be sword crimes, laws or no laws.
@atom8248
@atom8248 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, makes no difference. And honestly in a modern context the knife is a lot deadlier anyways.
@bohort
@bohort 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcogenovesi8570 never said different, accepting that crimes happen doesn't mean the shoes they were done in should be banned, you don't want the bans to exist, neither do I, but they do.
@bohort
@bohort 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcogenovesi8570 I was replying to this "@Boh Hort no you don't see what I mean. You don't stop crazy with laws. If they can't use swords they will use sticks. So now you have destroyed businnesses and people's livelyhoods to convert those 2 "sword crimes" in 2 "stick crimes". GG, that's exdactly how UK lawmakers think" which it seems either you deleted or youtube did. also police can stop criminals, it's all they are supposed to do. and laws are meant to be the constraints in which the do it.
@randyson9631
@randyson9631 2 жыл бұрын
av u got a loisens to be makin videos about the legality of curved swords?
@Richard.357
@Richard.357 8 ай бұрын
I recently visited the victorinox store in London with the intention of purchasing their new camping bushcraft knife. ( fixed blade full tang ). I was told that they are not available to sell in the UK as they are seen as a deadly weapon. But they were happy to sell me a large locking knife or a kitchen knife. I did mention, what's the difference with the law , they didn't know. And just said that's how it is.
@stephenkennywhatup
@stephenkennywhatup 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work!! good info!!!
@althesmith
@althesmith 2 жыл бұрын
Now if I'm a bladesmith but not a reenactor, is the Damascus sabre I'm forging illegal for me to have in my shop upon completion of heat treatment, mounting the guard or peening down the end of the tang?
@pluemas
@pluemas 2 жыл бұрын
no, if its traditionally made (IE not CNC machined) its legal.
@megadesu69
@megadesu69 2 жыл бұрын
@@pluemas Do you mind expanding on that? Are you saying I can in fact own a 'curved sword' here in England (without being part of a fencing club etc) as long as it's traditionally made (whatever that means)?
@pluemas
@pluemas 2 жыл бұрын
@@megadesu69 Yes. as per the 2019 act "There is also an exemption for swords with curved blades of 50cm or longer made before 1954 or those made at any time by traditional methods by hand."
@megadesu69
@megadesu69 2 жыл бұрын
@@pluemas Awesome, thanks mate.
@SuperFunkmachine
@SuperFunkmachine 2 жыл бұрын
@@pluemas is grinding a traditional method? stock removal has been used to make swords for a really long time.
@thegeneral123
@thegeneral123 2 жыл бұрын
Worth noting that it's cutting edge of 3 inches or less, not blade length. Regarding "street legal" knives in the UK. Must be non locking also. "Readily foldable at all times" The reason most people are getting visits about importing locking knives. Is that HM Customs are pushing for the angle of gravity knife based on the letter of the law. Which is open to interpretation that if you can flip or wrist snap open, it's a gravity knife.
@JamesBiggar
@JamesBiggar 2 жыл бұрын
....that's the opposite of gravity. Maybe they need to repeat grade school...
@thegeneral123
@thegeneral123 2 жыл бұрын
@@JamesBiggar Sadly it's the wording of the legislation that is the issue. "any knife which has a blade which is released from the handle or sheath thereof by the force of gravity or the application of centrifugal force and which, when released, is locked in place by means of a button, spring, lever, or other device, sometimes known as a “gravity knife”," Taken literally, that's most locking folding knives. If you can wrist snap or flick a locking knife open, that's a gravity knife by the letter of the law.
@hattyfarbuckle
@hattyfarbuckle 2 жыл бұрын
that sounds like a 1903 pattern bayonet with (sacrilege!) the first 9inches of blade ground square would be legal but it would be a long and expensive day in court I'm sure
@thegeneral123
@thegeneral123 2 жыл бұрын
@@hattyfarbuckle Incorrect, only applies to non locking folding knives.
@hattyfarbuckle
@hattyfarbuckle 2 жыл бұрын
@@thegeneral123 thanks
@ianmelonie6440
@ianmelonie6440 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a re enactor,I’ve trained as electrical and have a few antique weapons all these involve me owning either a fighting knife or sword or lock knife I still own them all but will not part with them but I no longer do any of these things
@Aivahr1
@Aivahr1 2 жыл бұрын
hello, thanks for the video and a question: can a brittish sword maker export from U.K. to foreign countries (as European Union) modern sharpe swords?. I hope your answer, thank you very much.
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