Ultimate 12 core Mac Pro Upgrade! Step by Step in 4k
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This video is an outline on how to flash a Mac Pro 4,1 to a 5,1 which will allow you to upgrade the CPUs, Faster RAM and run MacOS High Sierra. Basically breathes new life into your system and brings it into in 2017.
Time stamps:
0:00 - Intro
3:10 - Flashing firmware
5:26 - Upgrading CPU's
8:27 - Parts
8:50 - Installing ac wifi / bluetooth
9:40 - Putting in sataiii / usb3 / m.2 cards
9:51 - Installing RX580
11:03 - Thoughts
12:18 - Benchmarks
16:58 - Final thoughts
* I am not responsible for any damages you do to your own system. I have made this guide to show how easy it is to upgrade a Mac Pro 4,1*
Apples EFI Mac Pro firmware 1,5:
support.apple.com/kb/DL1321?l...
4,1 to 5,1 flash tool:
forum.netkas.org/index.php?PHP...
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These are all the parts I have used in this video. Some are used and you will need to find the best deal.
Tools-
Hex key: amzn.to/2iMcKNC
Thermal paste: amzn.to/2gMqYdf
Thermal Pad: www.ebay.com/itm/201138192279
USED-
Mac Pro 4,1: ebay.to/3b9EhzM
CPU's x5690 : ebay.to/2Dh8a4Q
Ram 64gb 1333 ecc: ebay.to/2DcveS8
Video card RX580: geni.us/FOrTb
NEW-
AC wifi / Bluetooth upgrade kit: geni.us/bygc
Dual mini 6Pin to 8Pin: geni.us/TH51EID
Sata to 6pin: geni.us/BybS8p
M.2 card: geni.us/pYymx
Samsung 951 ahci: amzn.to/2iKe5Vh
Sata III card: geni.us/JsdZfBo
USB 3 card: geni.us/ti7YAsC
Parts that I already owned-
GTX 1080ti- geni.us/m6oFY2
Samsung 1th SSD: amzn.to/2ifNr2B
Transcend 1tb SSD: amzn.to/2A1dVgi
3x 3tb Seagate Skyhawk: amzn.to/2ifIuqI
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@DataRadar 6 жыл бұрын
You brought life back to such a beautiful machine
@marlonwilson6693 6 жыл бұрын
Are you able to edit 4k footage with this machine upgrade? Like the video by the way. Good job
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@SethFowler 6 жыл бұрын
I don't even have a mac pro and i enjoyed this lol, nice work!
@jivteshwarkhaira4687 6 жыл бұрын
Bro I watch your videos
@boost6830 6 жыл бұрын
go do a shoe review bro and i'll see you over there
@dyna6448 5 жыл бұрын
Seth Fowler i have one mac pro
@esterfellen9522 5 жыл бұрын
jsut get a new one
@ImSteveSwish 5 жыл бұрын
Memo/tips I wish he’d said before i built mine!! (I had the exact same early 2009 i had to flash to 5,1) 1. If you have el capitan you MUST disable SIP (system integrity protection) via recovery mode/disk utility Terminal for the 5,1 firmware to work (re-enable after) 2. If your usb cabled keyboard is has windows based keys like my logitech, the cmd key is the windows/start key and opt key is the alt key between it and the keyboard. Opposite of what youd expect. Hope that saves you the hours of my life i lost lol 3.Redacted 4. The thermal pad gap is 4mm NOT 3mm as he describes in the video. You can even see him stack 3x1.5mm (4.5mm) which i wish i’d noticed before i bought 3mm 5. If the heatsinks are not level within
@TFKofBD 5 жыл бұрын
Tip 2 alone was worth the read. Wish i'd seen this sooner. Coming from a windows PC I was tearing my hair out
@MatthJenks 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all these detailed notes. It will save many people a lot of heartache.
@MacPassion 5 жыл бұрын
I just tried putting some 6-cores in my 4,1 and it didnt work, I got them from OWC. I was obviously worried that I could damage something putting a lidded CPU in but I followed this video along with other sites that have the same process. I took them in and out 4 times trying different amounts of tightness and being real careful. Would not boot at all, not even the startup chime. I eventually put in my original CPUs and it booted instantly 1st try. Not sure if the "tested" CPUs from OWC were DOA but they are non refundable. So I'm a bit pissed! Buyer beware. Next step is to try de-lid the 6-cores and try again. And yes I have done the firmware hack and all that.
@MacPassion 5 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering, relating to your point '5.' where and how many RAM sticks need to be installed for the machine to boot? I just put in 2x4GB, in slot 1&5, for each CPU to see if it would work. Should I have more RAM in for the system to boot???
@pixelgriffstudios 5 жыл бұрын
Rx 580 for Mojave and Catalina, Nvidia only goes to high sierra. I'll be getting delidded CPUs for mine.
@zollotech 6 жыл бұрын
Great job. I may have to try this myself.
@TomasVillegas 6 жыл бұрын
In a day and age where we throw out old tech as fast as we can buy it this is an awesome video on bringing stuff back to life. Great work!
@UCProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Word!!
@youngmo77 6 жыл бұрын
Tomas Villegas Tottaly agree with your statement. We are sort of programmed to buy new.
@Rolly.Polly. 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah nah I keep everything or I do them up to the best they can do and sell it to go towards something way better
@colbylynes 6 жыл бұрын
This is legit the best looking tower ever and they are the cheapest even though if u wanna do ur own build u have to do mods but still beautiful
@JavedRana 6 жыл бұрын
ardware Overview: Model Name: Mac Pro Model Identifier: MacPro3,1 Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz Number of Processors: 2 Total Number of Cores: 8 L2 Cache (per Processor): 12 MB Memory: 16 GB Bus Speed: 1.6 GHz Boot ROM Version: MP31.006C.B05 SMC Version (system): 1.25f4 Serial Number (system): CK84316CXYL Hardware UUID: D3C43221-6377-56A6-B856-4314EB2A87C2 Please provide me link to upgrade firmware of above Mac Pro 3,1 to help me install High Siera
@SurlyGaffer 6 жыл бұрын
Really well done. Actually showing close-ups of what you're doing makes this light years ahead of most DIY tech videos. Very informative for those who know what they're talking about. BTW the note near the end about getting a better geekbench score with 48MB RAM vs 64MB RAM is because the Xeon's use triple channel RAM and installing 3 sticks per CPU yields the best results.
@shaunmiller8735 5 жыл бұрын
This video inspired me to do the swap. One call out I would tell others that I learned during my own swap is that if you don’t delid the CPUs. The tension of the heat sinks on the cpus needs to be exact. Through my own troubleshooting and some great forum posts on MacObserver. It’s between 3.25-4.5 turns tightened in an x pattern. If you boot and get a solid white led but no boot chime back the screws off an 1/8th of a turn. If you get a flashing white led and no boot chime tighten the screens an 1/8th of a turn. It takes some time to get just right but don’t get discouraged. I would also add Delidding of course comes with it’s of risks up to destroying your CPU so for the amount of time it took to get my cpus working was better than destroying the CPU’s.
@aeko 6 жыл бұрын
I DID IT! Thanks for the incredible video explaining everything step by step! Typing this comment on my massively faster Mac Pro 5,1 from a 4,1 with new dual x5690s in it. Also got a 1tb Samsung SSD. Didn't get the same Geekbench scores. Maybe because I'm using 1066 ram still (32gb) vs your 48gb 1333. Single-Core Score: 2965, Multi-Core Score: 24209 Thanks again! Awesome video.
@UniquePhotoandVideo 6 жыл бұрын
The difference in GeekBench scores is due to Triple Channel Memory Config vs Dual Channel Config. Triple Channel provides more memory throughput resulting in higher synthetic benchmark scores.
@LeeZavitz 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome. That would be why! lol I've just been rocking 48gb (6 sticks) of ram. I haven't really seen the need for 64gb (8 sticks) In what I do with it.
@GlenAndFriendsCooking 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this - Looks like my next project, and since we're both in Toronto....
@pra7640 6 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why people have to dislike such a fantastic effort? We shouldn't be jealous whenever we watch such great passion and meticulous work. Great job!
@dgc7321 6 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing with my 2009 mac pro....turned it into a 5,1 3.06ghz 12 core with 32gb of ram. I use it in my studio to record audio from my Korg Kronos2 88. Beast of a machine!
@AJSwain82 6 жыл бұрын
I couldn't score X5690s at a good price, so I opted for the X5680 and 32GBs of RAM. This guy is gonna be a great Video Editor/Photo Editor/Streaming Rig for my setup. Thanks for this! If it wasn't for this, I would have just kept the rig stock.
@jameo3606 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t personally consider a machine like this “old” or “trash”, they are still very fast and capable machines, I’d love to get one and upgrade it!
@caspervondj4892 5 жыл бұрын
By FAR the best instructional video on updating these old macs. Thank you.
@BrandonLy3993 6 жыл бұрын
Nice! I have a 2009 Mac Pro also and it’s still very usable today. After flashing to 5,1, I can run the newest OS. Even with the original hardware, it feels just as quick as the macs you buy at the store today. I also regularly use a PowerMac G5 for video editing. They’re still great performers.
@pixelloopy 5 жыл бұрын
BTW if someone is having issues upgrading the firmware an still running el Capitan, the system will restart but nothing happens over and over again is cause SIP is enabled, restart holding cmd + r to go into recovery mode launch terminal and type: csrutil disable then restart and try again, this time it will definitely upgrade don't forget once upgraded to go back into recovery mode and tyle: csrutil enable to enable SIP, hope this helps.
@alexkaribyan4166 4 жыл бұрын
"restart holding cmd + r to go into recovery mode"....this also wont work for some people because certain GPUs wont allow you to boot in recovery mode....
@mauibuilder1239 6 жыл бұрын
I want one. Reminds me of renovating an old Airstream trailer with new interiors...a product with a great original design upgraded to 2017 standards.
@crispuloguerrero9266 5 жыл бұрын
That’s my next task I’m going shopping already have a 2007 I’m so excited about this thanks for sharing great instructors and walkthrough 👍
@JordanEwert 6 жыл бұрын
This is the best video I've ever seen on upgrading a 2009 Mac Pro. I've done a few tweaks like PCI USB 3.0 ports, faster video card, and SSD drive in my 2012 Mac Pro (12 cores) and I'm able to do everything pretty quick EXCEPT render 4K. You know your stuff here, and your workarounds are extremely valuable seeing the new Mac Pro coming out will probably be more than 4 grand I bet.
@DSRC24 6 жыл бұрын
RIP Steve Jobs and his perfectionism... Even inside his computers were aesthetically beautiful.
@weareallbeingwatched4602 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. Atlantic that's professor ive
@DSRC24 6 жыл бұрын
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@CaydenMartinIsABoss 5 жыл бұрын
@@DSRC24 Jony Ive is the chief design officer at Apple. He's saying that really all Steve Jobs did was approve the design which was truly designed by Jony Ive and his team.
@Gabriel.4190 4 жыл бұрын
@@CaydenMartinIsABoss Steve Jobs always took credit for what people designed around him. If he was there while it was being made "He Designed it" and built it himself. Such a Visionary😑
@christopherjames9843 4 жыл бұрын
@@weareallbeingwatched4602 Nah, Ive ruined a lot of the industrial design making things thinner just for the sake of it causing so many end user headaches, trips to AppleCare etc....
@tpf4292 4 жыл бұрын
This is so inspiring!!! I’ll upgrade my 2010 Mac Pro
@RobRossi10 4 жыл бұрын
One of the most valuable videos I have ever watched on KZfaq. Can't thank you enough Lee!
@davidnagy5171 6 жыл бұрын
wow, i was looking for something like this, because i loved the design of this mac pro
@tipoomaster 6 жыл бұрын
Funny part is, if you look at Barefeats, this era of Mac Pro is still the best GPU performance you can get in a Mac. Older PCI-E is still less limiting than TB3, and the Vega 64 in the iMac Pro is underclocked to about 83% on both core and memory. So a 1080TI in this is about the best you can get in a Mac for pure GPU performance.
@EposVox 6 жыл бұрын
This was kinda neat. Thanks for sharing!
@safetyhomeloans950 5 жыл бұрын
video really well made, and loved the details of seeing how you installed all the components. Bravo!!!!
@diegooliveirabenjamin 6 жыл бұрын
It turned out being a beast! I have one of those and I love every minute I use it. Congrats on such a great project and video.
@noenken 6 жыл бұрын
I bought the single socket Mac Pro 4,1 with base specs back in 2009. It is still one of my daily machines and I did most of the upgrades you showed here. Upgrade to 5,1 Xeon W3690 24GB 1333 low latency regECC DDR3 RX 460 (that might change when prices are not insane anymore) USB3.1 card PCIe SSD as OS drive two SATA SSDs in deathwish raid three 2TB drives in raidz1 (like raid5 but ZFS) and I am thinking about 10Gbit network. This was a stupid expensive system when I bought it but man, not long now and it will be in use for a full decade. Think about that, a 10 year computer that is still useful.
@chosenideahandle 6 жыл бұрын
Nice! I got lucky and found a guy who already did the 12 core processor upgrade and firmware to 5,1, and bought his system. Then I went ahead and put a used Mac flashed 980ti in, loaded the RAM (pilfered from my other Mac Pros), USB 3, SSDs... You can guess the rest. The Cinebench scores are the same as the base model 6,1. For the money I couldn't have bought anything nearly as good for what I do at least. I'm in TO.
@RKATEKBEATS 6 жыл бұрын
Hey man where did you buy that 980ti flashed??? Looking to do the same thing
@chosenideahandle 6 жыл бұрын
DaveDeguire hi. I found a guy who sells flashed cards on eBay. I’m sure he’s still doing it. I don’t have his contact info.
@alseeineye 6 жыл бұрын
- pice ssd is good as a boot drive in mac pros
@therealfats 6 жыл бұрын
can you edit 4k with PremeirePro smoothly???
@chosenideahandle 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't know. I always use "ingest" in Premiere when editing 4k, so I can move my work to slower machines to edit if I'm on the road (laptop). The GPU handles it pretty seamlessly in the background.
@include81 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video man I just picked up one of these myself. I'm impressed by the flexibility of this machine.
@marklester6143 6 жыл бұрын
Really great video. I'm a firm believer of re-purposing and refurbishing old tech and you've done just that. Going to see if I can do a similar project. Thanks.
@appledadlife 6 жыл бұрын
Fina Cut Fina Cut..lol, great video and very detail. thanks!
@reeffeeder 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Love these old Macs, shame they don't make them so upgradeable anymore.
@Supcharged 6 жыл бұрын
the problem is the GPU on the trashcan mac pro is trash and its non upgradable
@chosenideahandle 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, a lot of pros (myself included) knew the issues the trash can would run into when it was launched, so they refused to buy them. I'm still running four of these old towers.
@timothyandrewnielsen 6 жыл бұрын
I'm still using the 2012 Mac Pro dual 6 core xeon. Great machine. I didn't know I could upgrade the video card! I'll be doing that!
@gavinendsley 6 жыл бұрын
It doesn't really matter that the trashcan gpu is non upgradeable, if you get the dual d700s because they're pretty good. the d300s and d500s arent that good tho
@TheOriginalGuruError 4 жыл бұрын
This vid was perfect...building a Mac Pro 4,1 for a home ESXi host with dual x5690s. This gave me every bit of info I needed. Thanks!
@HyperXism 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!! You gave me a shortcut by showing me the 6 pin mini to the 8 pin cable! Other videos had another cable go in between!! Thanks so much!
@foxtowercommunications 6 жыл бұрын
Got my 4,1 flashed to 5,1 right here. Upgraded to 12-core~24 threads! Highly recommended. With a 980Ti, I can edit RAW video, 4K, no problems. It should last me at least five more years. Running 2K and 4K monitors off this old can.
@chosenideahandle 6 жыл бұрын
I have the exact setup, but are you sure you're editing RAW 4K? I'm a little skeptical. I still have to edit using proxies, which is fine by me. I am looking into a second PSU to add another 980ti though.
@oliviertalouarn6258 6 жыл бұрын
useless.
@Apex8r 6 жыл бұрын
Did u go from single to dual processors?
@oliviertalouarn6258 6 жыл бұрын
It means motherboard change ...
@Timescratch1 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video! But Raid 0 for the mechanical storage .. you should go Raid 1.
@JeremiahBostwick 6 жыл бұрын
He doesn't care about redundancy, only speed. His stated use case with this machine is literally transcoding only. Meaning, those drives don't actually store any data for long. He doesn't care if a drive dies and he loses his data. Also, you can't Raid 1 on 3 drives. He could do Raid 5, but he clearly has no interest in that.
@richardlong1567 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic vid, nicely presented and informative. I have a 3,1 and have started the upgrade with loads more ram, 2gb video-card and 8gb h/drives - I'm now editing on this sucker using Resolve 14.
@Enfolding881 6 жыл бұрын
Dude this video is incredible. I wish I would have seen it 2 months ago when I tossed my old 2009. I honestly did not think it was worth anything. Great work!
@AridersLifeYT 6 жыл бұрын
People forget that Macs are reliable as. They keep going and going. my old 2006 is still kicking strong.
@vinegartom8380 6 жыл бұрын
Good point; I'm typing this on a 2008 iMac, and its still absolutely fine for web browsing, email, word processing and some gaming. Technically, the 2008 iMac can only be upgraded to El Capitan, but I use the patch from dosdude1 which has allowed me to install High Sierra
@awsombuttfacemonkey 6 жыл бұрын
im typing on my windows xp machine from 2002 Windows are insanely reliable too
@andljoy 6 жыл бұрын
No macs used to be reliable, then the thinness wars started and they now overheat and die . 2006 macbook white, totaly fine , 2015 retina .... dead
@liquidmark5081 6 жыл бұрын
buttfacemonkey ppc Macs laugh at the survivability of Intel Macs.
@potatoricardo5901 6 жыл бұрын
that is so true lol
@TCKe 6 жыл бұрын
But use final cut on a Mac keep premiere for your pc.... Try it you might be surprised
@fdski 6 жыл бұрын
Tomas C K FCP is optimized for the ATI card architecture. There is a tangible speed bump there. If he’s using an Nvidia card he’ll get better speeds with Premier.
@useditem_tk 6 жыл бұрын
I would agree with Frank DiMaulo, and from experiences Dual GPUs is the best configuration for Mac, 1 RX 480 and 1 Titan or 980 ti, these GPU are the least expensive one but performance is so good. No need for SLI configuration. CUDA for Adobe or Resolve and RX 480 will do its magic to Apple Applications.
@CarlosHernandez-nf4xd 5 жыл бұрын
In 2009, mac pro was way ahead of its time. In 2019, it is amazing that we are still using them. I bought a Mac pro 2009 4,1 for $200.00 a month ago. And I'm planning to do major upgrade and some help with this video. Thanks for the tip.
@sacramentohomes 5 жыл бұрын
this is hands down BEST video ever!!!! Thank you for your hard work!!! I actually do have Mac 5.1 6 cores 3.33 Mhz and I really DO not want to go trashcan router because I love having 4 Hard drives inside.
@midnightsnack1306 6 жыл бұрын
These are probably the best Macs Apple made.
@tglaze1295 6 жыл бұрын
Dope as hell something I'd like to do as well one day.
@LeeZavitz 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah its honestly one of the last "Pro" things Apple made. The ability to still add in the latest video card or any expansion card is long gone. This bad boy still holds its own. Sure its not insanely fast. And once the iMac Pro comes out it will crush this. But we need to think of the Price to performance value here.
@gavinendsley 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah! I have a really crappy PC and I wanted to make a Hackintosh, but instead, I can just do this and run Windows on it using Boot Camp. My other option was buying the trashcan mac, but it's 4,000 dollars. This option is about 1,000 dollars. Plus, I don't need insane speed, just something better than what I already have. And this is BY FAR better than what I already have. I was looking into doing this before I even saw this video, but I wasn't sure what parts would fit, and what parts were compatible with MacOS. This helps a lot! And even if I can't run very high versions of MacOS, It still makes a pretty sick looking PC. And good value!
@antonioaguiarfilho 5 жыл бұрын
I've never, ever seen a Mac Pro inside before and, well, I'm impressed. It's quite a unique system.
@zfog 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I have that same computer - glad I can update it
@bachmannmanuel1562 6 жыл бұрын
Boring? hell no, i like it :-D
@the.man.from.toronto 6 жыл бұрын
Does the FireWire still work?
@oliviertalouarn6258 6 жыл бұрын
of course
@starrwoman1 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the video, I've learned a great deal from it. I'm looking to replace my vintage 06 Mac Pro with a newer 09 or 10 Mac Pro and upgrade it. Yes, the Mac Pro's are older but with the help of your videos and others like it, I can make my Mac Pro better and enjoy it that much more. You made me an subscriber, thanks again. :-)
@ihavenofriends2108 6 жыл бұрын
I just LOVE that modern , modular and clean look! If that thing had a side panel I would rush to the store and do whatever it takes to make it work! I would also put a vega 56 or maybe 64 if it's not that much hotter! Good video!
@JSVIDEOWORX 6 жыл бұрын
Can I just do the firmware update to the 5.1 to be able to use the new OS? I have 2009 quad core that was about to throw away until I saw this. Awesome video!
@tonyq4358 6 жыл бұрын
You can and should. I've got a 2012 5'1, and have done a similar upgrade.
@AppleReviews 6 жыл бұрын
yep - Apple even did their firmware update after High Sierra :)
@RiccardoRomanoVMO 6 жыл бұрын
You don't ever need the firmware upgrade. Check out the (high) Sierra patcher... I've done both the installation without any problem on a 4.1 Mac Pro
@maxdamage8562 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. High Sierra will run fine, but you night need to update the WIFI hardware.
@RiccardoRomanoVMO 6 жыл бұрын
With 10.11, the wifi is working fine. I'll check with 10.13, but I think what you could want to upgrade is the bluetooth since you don't have the continuity stuff... All the remaining works quite well on 10.11. Even the speed is still quite good (not as with 10.8 but still you can work with it). I'm working to use a ssd on a pci-e to have faster working speed... will see if it'll be ok with 10.13.
@FaresMason 6 жыл бұрын
How did this not go viral ?
@donnywilliams4376 5 жыл бұрын
hush or the prices will skyrocket
@trzarector 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I found a similar model dual core sitting in the street, in the rain a couple months back along with an old cinema display that doesn't seem to work. I think i will definitely look at upgrading the Mac now!
@ddn488 Жыл бұрын
Man.. come to the right place to upgrade my 2009 Mac Pro to 2 x 6core (12core) CPU.. awesome review the process. thank a lot.
@luiskiita 6 жыл бұрын
well done dude!! excellent post. I wonder, what is the most powerful GPU i could install on this mac pro, to edit with premiere CC 2018??? Any suggestion?
@LeeZavitz 6 жыл бұрын
luiskiita well I put my 1080ti in there and it's probably one of the most powerful GPUs you can put in there. The issue is that the drivers aren't very optimized so there isn't huge benefits to having that expensive of a card in there. I'm curious to see how a AMD vega 64 card will perform once Apple comes out with compatibility for it.
@colemowery 6 жыл бұрын
The Polaris architecture is natively supported within macOS. Because of this, any 400 series card, 500 series card, or Vega will perform extremely well in any mac computer. There still aren't official drivers for any nVidia 10 series card.
@AlphaFox78 6 жыл бұрын
Nvidia makes official drivers for the 10 series cards, just not apple.
@LeeZavitz 6 жыл бұрын
Apple doesnt even make drivers at all for the 10 series cards. You can only use the Nivida drivers for the 9 and 10 series to work in OSX.
@rbnjr 6 жыл бұрын
im running qty 2 titan x's on my mac pro 5,1
@kpopRC 6 жыл бұрын
no thunderbolt though.
@kpopRC 6 жыл бұрын
no usb3 either.
@kpopRC 6 жыл бұрын
On another note... this is still a bad ass build.
@drx1xym154 3 жыл бұрын
I dont miss TB ... the old 4,1 & 5,1 are still very useful, upgradable and way less money that the new 2019 MacPro.
@PaulBrownclk-me 3 жыл бұрын
@@kpopRC you can add usb3 via the pci slot, I did this with my 2008 3.1 , I have an external usb3 drive that's faster than the internal drives.. I have no requirement for TB so don't need it, I do have firewire800 though 👍
@kpopRC 3 жыл бұрын
@@PaulBrownclk-me UNLESS you have 4 raid enclosures using thunderbolt 2. and no way to use them. great computer. just not super useful to people who use old connections with their pro hardware. darn.
@yannickdocq9781 5 жыл бұрын
Great vids my friend, i just upgraded 2010 Macpro with a X5690 6 core 3.46ghz and 64g of ram and not yet sure what would be the best graphics card. But thank to you, i was able to upgrade my ol girl. Thank You =)
@JDas2k 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! Thanks for doing this video and laying out the process. I have a Mac Pro 2009 (Mac 4,1) for a very long time. Over the years, I installed a Sonnet card with 2 SSDs on it, 4port USB3 card, GeForce GTX Mac Edition 2GB card, LG BluRay drive, lots of storage in the 4 bays, and a 16GB OWC RAM Kit. I really didn't want to sink anymore $$$ into the system. I didn't know about the FW flash. If I can get at least High Sierra running at least I can be using Adobe CS 2019.
@samococo 6 жыл бұрын
Hey man, how much did you end up paying for this upgrade?
@useditem_tk 6 жыл бұрын
It is not gonna be cheap, bro! At least 3K or something to get the best of the Mac Pro. CPUs, Rams are not expensive, the most expensive parts are GPUs, Storage arrangement. - GPU just the Titan, the least expensive one is the 6gb or you can get 980 ti but still it is not gonna be enough if you aim for best configuration for video editing. (*** Don't forget to buy two mini 6 pins to 6+2 pins) - Don't get an SSD or Sata III pcie card, just get pcie ssd instead, nvme would be the best. - Just get 3.1 usb pcie card. - You can install 6 sata II drive in the mac-pro. You can run Raid using Soft-Raid.
@ilpatongi 6 жыл бұрын
What are you even talking about? This particular upgrade is about 1 grand
@SongOfDeer 6 жыл бұрын
"Why do you have that old thing, that thing should be in the trash" - Said no one ever, lol. If there is actually people that consider the original Tower Mac Pros "trash", you either have too much money, or no idea what yer doing. These things were Apple's best machines so far imo! Built from thick machined (not cut or punched) Aluminium, with great airflow and actual expandability, these machines are the reason why everybody thinks that Mac OS is the go-to for music production. Look up pics of known Music studios on Google - you'll find that most of them have a Mac Pro somewhere in their effects racks (often even too). While OSX certanly isn't my prefered operating system, sometimes you just need to have it (Pro Tools is a good example, since it sadly crashes more on Windows then it does on OSX). And I'd take a Mac Pro Tower over the Trashcan any time. Why? Apple has forgotten the Music industry. Composers and Studios have among the weirdest and strangest needs for IO, simply because our tech is years behind the Video/CAD/Rendering industry. Alot of interfaces and gear still use fucking Firewire for example! I can't put a firewire card in a Trashcan Pro. I need to buy a thunderbolt PCIe box and put a Firewire card inside. Those things are ludecrously expensive! Apple stopped caring about actually innovating completely. They produce whatever is hip at the moment. And if you can trim removing features as "hip", weeell, all the better, amiright? These products are for made for fancy, clean studios that edit high-res youtube vids and instagram-whores with Daddys money. No matter how much Apple tells you that shoving 15 grand up their ass is a good idea - it's not.
@DanEvansn 6 жыл бұрын
I lost my shit at "instagram whores" lmao!!! XD
@RealSpaces 6 жыл бұрын
Bro, I once saw one of these in the recycle room of my condo complex. True Story!
@geoffhalstead1811 6 жыл бұрын
They are still the best and Apple made a huge mistake with that black abomination!
@gavinendsley 6 жыл бұрын
"Built from thick machined (not cut or punched) Aluminium, with great airflow and actual expandability" more like cheese graters amirite hahahahha no but seriously someone here has to make a cheese grater joke not saying the mac pro is bad, it just looks like a cheese grater. kinda like how the new one is a trash can
@focalsounds4920 5 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better myself!
@patrickmchugh5260 5 жыл бұрын
Great Vid, I am in the middle of upgrading my 3,1 Mac Pro, not as cool as the 4,1. I had thought it was time to dump my machine before I realised it was upgradable.
@vox9841 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a really informative video, I really enjoyed it.
@joeycrowbro8517 6 жыл бұрын
This machine was sexy, functional and upgradable (even 10 years on). WTH was Apple thinking with that garbage trashcan. I guess 2019 we will see a similar Mac Pro (or at least we hope)
@robertbullock9415 5 жыл бұрын
No, because Apple doesn't want you working on your own machine any more.
@llothar68 5 жыл бұрын
Well the garbage trashcan will also be 10 years old before it gets replaced .... ROTFLMAO. Shouldn't apple have come with some previews by now. It will be not an earlyl 2019 model.
@5dgisd528 4 жыл бұрын
now we have a highly modular Mac Pro again, but it´s quite expensive. Crazy machine though..upgradeable to 1,5 TB RAM
@alexblackish-709 5 жыл бұрын
64gb of RAM just to run Chrome
@andre1884 6 жыл бұрын
I have an 09 12 core myself! I'm love with it!! can handle anything i throw at it! audio software wise
@chuckpg31 6 жыл бұрын
Got one of these. Love computers you can open up replace or upgrade anything. This is like owning a car that has old school single din stereo and easy access to engine parts that are common. It’s Very modular
@haramaschabrasir8662 6 жыл бұрын
The project is cool, I love the old Mac Pros, BUT: You H-A-V-E to delid the CPU. There are so many reports on the internet about Mac Pros not working properly or stopping to work at all because of bad CPU swaps. People underestimate that stuff. And don't just say "don't be so sensitive, mine is working fine"- It can stop working after it worked 6 months. The CPU swap gets waaay underestimated. Best is to delid and use exactly the force on the screws that the Apple service technician manual says. Apple always works out the boundaries of the hardware, there is not much room left to play with. These are very complicated devices, other than standard PCs.
@mailjabber 6 жыл бұрын
How do you "delid" the CPUs?
@ClicketyClack 6 жыл бұрын
Belt sander.
@mailjabber 6 жыл бұрын
That's how I like my haircuts done too!
@bobbyroland2530 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. I had put a dual SSD card in my 2008 Mac Pro a few years ago. I believe your 2009 has the same capabilities, in that the top two PCIe slots are 4x and the bottom two are 16x. That's why I put my raid 0 boot drive into the second from the bottom slot, just over the graphics card. You may want to switch it and see if your speed increases. I found this on line... (one free PCIe 2.0 x16 slot and two free PCIe 2.0 x4 slots with the default single graphics card installed). Here's the page.... everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/specs/mac-pro-quad-core-2.66-early-2009-nehalem-specs.html. You can check your specific mac, but I think they are the same. - The raid 0 dual SSD made video editing possible. I just sent for a RX580 graphics card......PS, I'm trying to get up the guts to change the processors. Thanks again!
@DeathPenny 6 жыл бұрын
Nice vid man - I love those old Mac Pro Chassis - they are quile probably the most well designed Tower Case ever - I am not a Mac guy - But I am thinking about building a Protools HD box and these Boxes are perfect for that. Thanks again
@gstrassel9008 4 жыл бұрын
My university was having a warehouse sale, selling old University equipment, and I ended up picking up a mid-2010 Mac Pro for $100 USD. This video is so useful for helping me upgrade its parts. Thanks so much!
@SpencerWhetstone 6 жыл бұрын
What kind of dunce would down vote this video?
@markwise2824 5 жыл бұрын
@@alarak2159 LOL
@jamesdoerr4318 5 жыл бұрын
I was going to build a Hackintosh, however I am rethinking. Thanks so much for taking the time to make this video.
@44Magnumproductions1 4 жыл бұрын
your correct I went the Hackintosh way and have now moved to a 12 core 09 mac pro much better :)
@PulpFreePress 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Getting ready to do this to my trusty 8-core 2009 4,1
@willm5032 4 жыл бұрын
I like how they vastly improved the design of the internals on the 2009 compared to the 2008. I love my 2008 (got it hella cheap, upgraded to catalina now) but the CPU and RAM mounts on the 2009 are so much more accessable
@swilhelm3180 5 жыл бұрын
Great attitude and production techniques. You are a credit to KZfaq. If only more were like you.
@eminorb5 6 жыл бұрын
Great advise video, i also upgrade my 2009 MacPro with similar spec last 2 years and still powerful working to now ;)
@KevinWaken 5 жыл бұрын
great build, the building process was really entretaining.
@TheWhiteboybeast 6 жыл бұрын
Just got a Mid-2010 Mac Pro for $200 and this video helped me tremdously to bring this thing up to speed! Thank you sir!
@jansirkia3809 6 жыл бұрын
Easily the most inspiring video in a long while! Thanks Dude!
@my1after909 5 жыл бұрын
Very impressive! I 've just returned to Mac, with an ebay 3.1. I'd used macs since a 7200, in 1999, and got up to a copule of MBPs, that went belly up, then on emergency status, wound up using PCs for the last 5 years. Feel that my brain has been dumbed down, using PCs, but also seem to be impressed, excited, bewildered, at how much versitility these systems offer:-)
@andrewboey4838 6 жыл бұрын
wowwww!! THANK YOU for the excellent video detailing step by step!! Gotta go! Got a 4,1 to buy!!!
@minghuayao5952 4 жыл бұрын
man! awesome to watch such videos! It never gets boring!
@sparkplug964 6 жыл бұрын
Good to see the old G5 still have some performance in them, build quality of that machine is amazing.
@Colosphonium 6 жыл бұрын
Did this...got two mac pro now... 5.1 high sierra both works amazing. Actually have a geekbench of 20 000 on both machine. Im a composer and now i run hollywood strings etc no problemo smazing
@AndrewMurphyFilms 6 жыл бұрын
This is so dope man, very tempted to build on of these for video editing!
@JohnSeabourn 4 жыл бұрын
Got a similar build and it is still a beast in 2020. Got Catalina running on it and it runs smooth as butter.
@storysupport 4 жыл бұрын
John Seabourn Am I off or are all these upgrades still limited by the bus?
@ReallyGhey 6 жыл бұрын
Not boring at all. This is nice work. Great job man
@frankervin 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a gonna do it! Thanks for the help! I bought the Mac Pro new in 2010.
@TheSingingCelebrant 5 жыл бұрын
one of the best vids I've seen - Do you have a Build from scratch video please? Not at all boring. Good vocal pitch which helps - thank you
@jameshall9587 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love this project. Such a classic chassis.
@temporaryberlin3333 5 жыл бұрын
thank you! I just got two towers for free and need a render farm for 3d work, so I really appreciate your step by step introduction to what the options are :)
@amirite 6 жыл бұрын
This is great. I work in a post-production house and we have been struggling with the lack of Mac options, hardware-wise - we want to remain a Mac shop and have been using Hackintoshes but have 2 Mac Pro towers waiting to die. This might save them!
@andreas.abrahamsson 6 жыл бұрын
Decided to follow your example and not delid the CPU's. Works like a charm! 1599 in Cinebench. Not too chabby. :) Thanks for a great tutorial.
@ScapeUwa 5 жыл бұрын
Ive kept my Mac Pro for nostalgia and boy am I glad I did! So stoked to update and beef that puppy up! Thanks for the vid!
@japanvintagecamera8869 4 жыл бұрын
I replaced the CPUs in my 2009 Mac Pro with X5690s, and got a flashing power indicator when I tried to power it up. The cause of the problem turned out to be that I had not tightened down the heat sinks enough, and one of the processors was not making good contact. It's up-and-running now, and I love it.
@nilsaggu9637 4 жыл бұрын
Delidding the Xeon processors is very easy to do if you have the right tools (all it needs is a sharp/thin knife or blade, and a small bench vise.) It is also MUCH more advisable than cutting that connector/adding thermal pads to use a Xeon with metal heat shield. I've delidded at least 20~24 xeons so far, did not damage any of them and every time it took me less than 2 minutes to do it. Just carve the bonding glue (?) under the heat shield a little and then use bench vise to take it off- there are a few good videos on KZfaq for it.
@paulkerry8915 5 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these back in 2009 had an 8 core 2009 Mac Pro with 24gb of ram it was insanely expensive back in the day but it was great.
@MetaltManiac 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this! I have this exact computer, and was looking for a way to edit 4K footage much faster because I just got the c200 😂 I can't believe I found this video. So thankful I didn't sell my 4,1
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