This seems like a weird comparison, at least over here in New Zealand. The G923 is almost half the price of the T300 RS here, which is again almost half of the price of the CSL Elite.

Something to keep in mind is that all three of these wheels come in at very different price points. We're talking hundreds of dollars in difference. I have a G29 (which is the same as 923 but even cheaper right now) and I have been blown away by how good it is for the money. SO if you came from like the cheap toy level racing wheels when you were a kid like I did, it is a perfect entry to see if you even like doing sim racing.

Here in Mexico you can get the G923 for $225 USD, the T300 for $500 USD and the Fanatec is not even sold here. But privately it’s about $1,000 USD. So, there is no comparison on this wheels.

Patiently going to wait on a similar comparison video on different seating rigs/solutions

*since the g25

I got into sim racing back in March of 2020 when the world went into lockdown over the virus. I wasn't sure if I would really get into, and I started off with a cheap $75 wheel from Thrustmaster and playing Assetto Corsa (got a deal on it in Steam). But I found myself hooked on sim racing. But after 4 months, the cheap TM wheel broke. I got my $75 worth of fun out of it. But did some research and the RS300GT from Thrustmaster. I love the wheel and just took my sim racing to another level. Best $400 (with shipping) I ever spent for my sim racing.

Amazing video! Thank you!

I currently have t300rs I'm probably going to upgrade it to csl DD when it comes out

Thanks for sharing this comparison!

MW Tech, what is the name of the material you used for your base to mount the seat and everything off of? it looks very modular and I love the clean look of it!

The mounting clamp on the G series are good when you know how to do it and not over tighting it.I have a g27 that not move compare to the t300. You need at least 2,5-3cm thickness to clamp it right.They added rubber pads on this one apparently,maybe that reduce the minimum thickness.When using a wood box to prevent the pedals moving,the thrustmater one flip over on heavy breaking.The logitech don't flip over.The "loose" center by default on the T300 is a bit confusing to do very little movements steering/counter-steering.A dead zone on the g923 will come over time,cause it's still dual motor from my expectation,maybe i'm wrong.

Just so you know you can use your Logitech wheels with other companies pedals and shifters you just have to calibrate accordingly in games.

Am I the only one that noted you wrote T3000 instead of T300 everywhere on the video title/descriptions? xD Great video!

I own a Logitech G29. I know it has its short comings but the thing I love is the top mounted securing system. I can slide this thing along my desk, into and out of position in a matter of seconds. Its not perfect but works great for me. I wish other wheel bases had this option.

Nice set up. Been putting off buying any wheel and probably will go with a Logitech wheel if I can get one on sale. Really do like Fanatec but the next one up from the CSL.

Fanatec aren't really availible in my country so the prices of the few units you can get are sky high. That's why I think I'll go with thrustmaster.

Hi, I heard the thrustmaster t300/TX is not very reliable, does it still work after a long time? Thanks ( sorry for my english im french 😅)

I went from a g27 to g29. I was very unimpressed with the “upgrade”. It felt like the same wheel with even the same dead zone int the center. I bit the bullet abd got a csl elite with the pedals. Changed my sim world experience overnight. The base force feed back is not even close to these other two. The csl kills it. There’s almost no dead zone in wheel unlike Logitech’s. And the force feed is almost unexplainable, you feel every little detail and I find it much easier to catch slides before u enter a spin. But the biggest improvement came from the break pedal. I hated those drivers who would outbreak you and be under you before you got to a corner but now I understand why. Finding the hardest pressure you can apply while not locking up tires is rather easy with fanatec. I felt like on my Logitech it was a guessing game. Overall your times won’t change much from the wheel over the others but your love it more and spin a lot less, the real time you pick up on track is from the pedals. 3x the price 10x the upgrade value. If you can afford it and are thinking about it. Get it.

Budget sim racing wheel, compares a 350$ wheel to a 499$ wheel to a 569$ wheel ok bud

The magnet shifter mod for logitech wheels is a brilliant little gadget. Cheap as chips too

I just bought the Thrustmaster T300RS GT. It's my first wheel, and I'm looking forward to giving it a spin.

great Video what is your rig made out of, i would love to make that.

Would love a fanatec wheel but every time i look up they are sold out. Had a preorder hanging for over 6months overdue before i gave up at one point. And even in europe the fanatec price is like 2,5 times the T300, soo yeah hmm.

Wondering what is the rig used at 3:47… looking for something like this with a seat to mount the gear that can be used with a console and tv. Ideally it can be folded away Thank you for this! Great video

is the Fanatec really a 'budget sim racing wheel' tho? Compared to their other offerings I'd say yes but not compared to the wheels in this video.

Well done sir!… question on the T300 with the P310… does it work in the PS3? Online documentation says T300 is compatible but the Sparco wheel does not…

Amazing review, hard to find a video so complete and honest...

so i have used the Logitech G920 wheel for a while, 3 years or so i think, and i recently upgraded to the CSL Elite wheel with the nascar wheel, i use it primarily on iracing, not much else but i run alot of things on iracing, dirt oval, asphalt oval, and some road course stuff, i used the Logitech for a while, and i was frequently uncomfortable on the wheel, in almost everything i raced i could never just jump in and race, i always had to spend huge amounts of time messing with settings and other things, also to add on i could just never ever get used to the break pedal, but ill talk more about that later. The Logitech wheel has a weird design its not round its got the bevels and me being a guy with large palms and very short fingers, i was never comfortable unless my hands were 50/50 and that made any form of oval stuff a tremendous pain in the ass, because i had to mess with steering ratio's and offsets every time i raced. One quick positive though, the wheel was incredible on F1 2018-2019! that was until the right paddle stopped working Eventually i found a resolution to my issues with the wheel itself, i managed to find a 14 inch MPI racing wheel for a cheep price, and i purchased the Steel adapter from the MPI website, and what a difference that made but, it came at a sacrifice, because i had to murder my wheel to use it, essentially had to take the wheel off down to the base, i was able to use a few buttons still on the wheel but i ended up getting a button box to solve my issue and that added about 2 pounds of weight to the wheel which made it much feel much more solid, i was never a fan of the way the FFB worked on the logitch wheel either so when i got the mpi i only used it a small amount, but over about 6 months of use the wheel developed alot of play, just from wear and tear, and the MPI mod i made to it just sped up the process. Now i want to touch on the pedals, the pedals suck, and theres no other way to out it, after alot of trial and error i decided to just individually solid mound the pedals and that helped for a bit, but i still just struggled with applying the breaks, eventually i decided to build myself a hanging pedal bracket and initally it was awesome but i realized that the break pedal itself is just junk, so i migrated to using the clutch pedal for breaks and it was a HUGE improvement, but as the play in the wheel got worse and worse i got an opportunity to buy a CSL Elite with pedals and a racing wheel from my friend for $350 and i have nothing but incredible things to say about this wheel, it has improved my iracing experience tenfold! The pedals are nicer, the wheel is nicer to hold, the feel in general is more responsive, more customizable, and just better in general! i recommend Fanitech to anyone who plans on racing alot

"These wheels are all within the same price range about 400 USD"....mentioned on KZfaq. The real price: The CSL Elite as shown in the video 699 USD, the Logitech G923 is 367 USD for PS5/4 and 243 USD for Xbox One, the Thrustmaster T300 RS is 399 USD. So this video is about 2/3 correct. However, the KZfaqr scalping is real on that CSL Elite. Same thing happens in any collective hobby, KZfaqr talks about it, price goes up.

How did you attach GT Omega to SimLab? Do you have a seat slider?

This video is hella professional bro. Congrats!

Is the fanatech notchy like the T300? I bought a T300 and hate that I can feel every tooth gear during its FFB. Is the CSL any better?

Here in Portugal, seems like we get cheaper logitech components while thrustmaster is definitely pricier. Heck, when the G29 launched i waited a few months on black friday i got the wheel for 225 euros(265USD), shifter 50 euros(59USD). The logitech T300rs stayed at the same price 399 euros(470USD) pretty much until about 2 years ago where it finally had a price drop. Oh and black friday was a joke, it always remained at the same price despite black friday. And that was the basic T300rs with the pedals without clutch. The one with clutch was 100 euros(118USD) more. And the thrustmaster shifter was 149euros(176USD). Which means, the G29 which comes with clutch and the added shifter i paid 275 euros(207USD) If i wanted the same equipments but from thrustmaster i would have paid 648 euros(765,77USD) That's more than triple the price. And before buying it i heard people complaining about loose force feedback when hot, problems with the wheel while logitech just seemed solid. Had a Logitech Formula Force EX which served me really well and was very pleased about the quality. So, in 2016 in black friday i saw a G29 at a reasonable good price and i just couldn't help it, limited offer too. After a lot of research and talking to people online, which i still have nightmares about fanboysm i settled with the G29 and never had a singke problem whatsoever with the wheel and pedals. I did have problems with the shifter but a warranty of 2 years, logitech were forced to give me a new one to a defect. I was extremely happy with my purchase back then and the expression bang for your buck certainly applies here. Hell, i have a feeling this thing will survive 50 years with everyday use.

Great review. But as the T300 goes, a drive hub from Collective minds will make it compatible with both xbox and playstation.

These wheels are all at completely different levels

what pedals and wheel base do you use and does the base come with the wheel

Very informative

What is the T300 substitute that can be played on XBOX? I m looking for the same mechanizm. Thrustmaster TX has the same mechanizm or inferior?

In my country the Thrustmaster wheels are ALL 4x the price of the logitech ones 😮

When do you feel you "need" more than an entry level like T3000rs? Like how do I know if I want to invest in T3000 vs Fanatec? If I don't want to compete in some serious events does it still make a difference on the experience if I get T3000 instead of CSL? Is it like with 240hz display for top CSGO gamers vs noobs who even can't hit you in slowmo? :P

Great video, What game is being played at 3:32? looks good

Owned a t300 and the 923. But I feel I upgraded when I went to the csl and I’m happy. I play on ps5 and the option to adjust the settings on the wheel is legit really can dial in games.

Idk if I trust him with how he drives lmfao

I have a g29 it’s pretty amazing the only thing is the brake is pretty stiff but I can’t complain too much it crushes my old thrust master 458 wheel that didn’t even have ffb

I have owned G29, T300RS and Fanatec Clubsport 2.5. Thrustmaster wins. I went from G29 to Clubsport but had to have the clubsport wheel replaced within a month then the base repaired a month after that......so poor quality. Then got the T300RS and has been great. Also the constant beta firmware updates with fanatec that are recommended drive me crazy. T300RS I installed once and never look back. G29 was good entry level but noisy and weak. I have kept the CSL pedals with loadcell though which can work with T300RS via USB.

have 2 g29 and they do the job just awesome

2:50 are we not going to talk about how he hit every single car on the road

I was looking for the fanatic csl elite but I can’t figure out if it has been discontinued or if it’s just out of stock. If someone knows I’d appreciate it if you explained thanks

Thrustmaster ts-xw is also great from what i hear, might upgrade my t300 to that one at some point. T300 is definitely a great buy for a first wheel.

its very sad that logitech decided to upgrade their G29 to G923 with so little changes, they could do better

Great video. This reflects just about everything I have read about each of these wheels. Of the 3, I want the CSL. I already have a set of CSL pedals with the loadcell brake kit. Great pedals! But I am not so keen on spending $600 for the current CSL base and wheel combinations from Fanatec. Even though the Porsche steering wheel is nice and bundled with the wheel base, its a good deal. I just think the price is a little too high for my comfort. I guess spending an additional $150 for a CSW and the rally wheel as a starter rim.

Very helpful. I want to get into this realm at some point. My girl is nervous to learn manual, would be cool to get her feet wet with sim driving first

Great comparison 👏

Which one is better for the beginning? Logitech 923 or Thrustmaster T300 RS GT? My English is not so good :D

I am still deciding between the T248 or the G923 for the Xbox Series X... which one is better and lasts longer??

Not sure about other places but here in Aus the Fanatec CSL Elite is $500 but that's just the base and dose not include the wheel or pedals and the T300rs GT is $700 with the G923 the cheapest of all at $540

You’re going to get better performance with the Thrustmaster.. but keep in mind it’s a belt system , so with many hours of use there is a chance that it may run you problems. For example my T300 will give out its force feedback randomly at times, I read online that it could be the motor giving out. Not to mention the shifter is $250 if you’re going with thrust. Logitech G923 you’re going to get a quality wheel that will last , and they fixed the brakes from the G920 so they’re not bad at all now with a proper setup.

can we change degree of rotation on g923 now? they removed this feature on the g29 wheel that was stupid.-

You need a new wheel rim for xbox compatiblity something to bear in mind..

I have a G27 that I used for GT5 & GT6 back in the PS3. I tried the old T500RS a while back, and since then I've always wanted to get a Thrustmaster wheel. Now that I have a PS5 and I'm waiting for GT7, I don't know if I should go for the T300RS now and risk being a gen behind if Thrustmaster releases a new wheel alongside of GT7, or if should wait and see and in the meantime buy a G923 to play GT Sport (here in Mexico the G923 is about 40% of the price of the T300RS GT kit). What I really want to do is just buy a T300 right now, and be done with it, but the price and the fact that a new gen is here is making me doubt if I should.

could someone use a CSL elite with t3pa pros if i get a drivehub adapter. i’m on the fence

I would probably just get a g923 and if i like sim experience enough then i'll just upgrade straight to direct drive system, kinda pointless to go for "entry level" belt system when you know you'll want more.

Couldn’t finish the video. The way you pronounce fanatec makes my hair stand on end lol

i own the G29 its pretty good for the price but if i had to buy a new one i would go for the Thrustmaster T300rs

Is the Thrustmaster T300rs GT compatible with Xbox X? I Think Fanatec is way too expensive adding all that you need to drive a car. Steering wheel, pedals, etc... I will be using it on Forza and F1 2021.

Is the Logitech still good if I want to just enjoy a different aspect to racing and not take it too seriously

I’ve narrowed down to Thrustmaster. So help me out, T300 RS or T248? There is only a $50 price difference right now so I want the best of the two.

What about the Thrustmaster TS-XW? Thinking on buying that instead of buying a t300 and then using more money by upgrading later...

I get my first wheel setup a month ago. before that I first try friend's thrustmaster and then logitech g923. thrustmaster has more hard ffb. my times of dirt 2.0 with thrustmaster is a little better. but nothing can compare with the real feelings of logitech trueforce.. so i go on with logitech myself.

It's funny the t300 has less torque yet when using them side by side it doesn't feel like only half haha

whats the name of the racing seat frame??

Great review and very well paced. Well organized with a lot of the information that I was looking for. If I didn't hear something I was wondering, I just had to wait and you certainly addressed it. Gonna shoot for a CLS Elite based on your review. (Small critique: when using comparative language, choose either "more hefty" or "heftier," rather than "more heftier." Teacher in me couldn't help it!) Great video and looking forward to more content. =)

Subscribed, BTW

G920 user here, have to say that the gear driven logitech wheels just do not cut it. You will be left wanting more, it's a good wheel to learn on but it is not a satisfactory lifetime use wheel IMO. The steering is not smooth really at all and, again in my opinion feels nothing like a real car (purely in terms of smoothness) The force feedback and response is good, it's just that one thing that leaves me not being able to recommend this to anyone. I can't comment on trueforce though, everything else about the wheel mechanically is the same as the g920. Oh, and the logitech gaming software is probably the biggest tech nightmare I've ever had to deal with. It barely works.

So does the fanatec support both xbox and PS

Does the thrustmaster work on the ps5?

i really wish they didnt keep theflat bottom on the g923

10:32 I thought he was racing and got me confused as to wtf was that clutch foot doing, I just realized it's just him pressing on the pedals to show it to us

For a former (who’s never used a wheel setup) Gran Turismo freak who’s looking to get back into GT would Logitech be worth it over a PS4 controller... or should I stick to a controller

I think I'd get a used Logitech Drive Force GT and save up for a direct drive set up before I'd spend $350 for the G923

which adidas shoes are those please let me know

g923 +shifter in Poland new 277 USD with superb Brake pedal . T300 with shifter 552 USD without pedal upgrade to better than g923 Fanatec hard to get in Europe ,Just the base is more expensive than t300. After owning G27 , would like an upgrade .Would try T300 but still way more expensive and does not have the great pedals.Then heard about fanatec ,but boy for the extra money for fanatec without clutch and shifter I could have a nice 5.1 Home Cinema (great upgrade for more realism ) I think if you looking for good most budget wheel as sim wheel etc , also for drifting , shifter and clutch is a must ,seems you cant find cheaper wheel for that price and purpose . Only worth mentioning is what sometimes can be a problem ,when using G series late nights or when share a room with somebody ,they can be really loud . Especially when using strong FF (lot of people dont like high FF) or drifting on 900* . Fanatec is for fanatics that use them all the time ,especially in sims and dont mind spending a lot money for sim rig . If you new to virtual racing ,I would suggest try cheaper wheel and see if you will get into it .But if go from controller ,or mouse racing ,you will end up for relative cheap money totally in new world . You wont regret G series .Thrustmaster also . I would keep away from used wheels .Only from good source or from somebody you know. Anyways If you want better experience from g29 the price to experience is getting really high

Tx/300 is listed as 3.9 NM. The t150/tmx is listed at 2.5 NM and the newer t248 lands in between at 3.5 NM The Logitech is 3 NM though

It is T3HUNDRED not T3THOUSAND - you need to change the description of your video. P.S. Good video thanks...

This comparison video is like comparing a vauxhall corsa to a Lamborghini aventador

I'm still using my driving force gt lol. It gets me wins. But I did just buy a t300gt. Should be here monday!

Just bought the Thrustmaster T300RS GT for PC and it won't work on Steam! Tried everything and the Steam controller input won't recognize it, so no Steam games are playable with the wheel. Windows and Oculus both recognize it, but not Steam. Very frustrating because most cool racing games are on Steam! Am returning the wheel for this reason. Would love to get a list of Steam-compatible wheels before I buy another.

It's kinda sad cause trying to get a Fanatec CSL elite pro is so hard in New Zealand

Does anyone know what the 24 point selector does.thanks

You should remake this video since the csl elite isn't sold anymore

I think you should do a review of two devices at a time. Makes it confusing and hard to keep up with which one your talking about for three

The driving from 9:08 kills me 😂

Where do I find those adidas shoes???

It's fanatic but spelled fanatec! We're did you get fan attack from? You new?

I want to upgrade to a belt drive, probably the t300, its justcway better for drifting, and way quieter and less clunky. The only problem is its more expensive but the belt drift and quick release make it way more worth it than a g29 with a shifter and handbrake. Just the wheel and the pedals themselves are a better deal.

@9:20 why use a wheel when you can use the wall or other cars to turn 🤔

In the Netherlands you pay for the CSL Elite around 500 euro's, and that is without pedals. I can't call that a budget racing wheel.

Thrustmaster T300 + Wheel Stand Pro V2 + IKEA Poäng♥️

Seems a little unfair to review a Trueforce wheel without actually playing a Trueforce game (such as Snowrunner or Grid). The G923 simulates the actual engine vibration on Trueforce games by analysing the engine note. Food for thought perhaps? 😎

It looked like you didnt even use the wheels. The r300 rim is rubber btw