Due to reuploads not being watched by most subscribers (for obvious reasons). I would very much appreciate your likes and comments for the algorithm :) I will update this comment if I have news on the input lag bug. The previous video explaining the issue can be found here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bph7ZrOTlZebaJs.html
@EnduringGuerila3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad to see the eSwap I previously bought actually doing far better on the input lag test.
@kyzyl49153 жыл бұрын
This video was excellent. Very informative!
@VudrokWolf3 жыл бұрын
You should definitely have so much more subscribers, but I guess not all of us are tech-oriented, I love your content!! thank you for this video.
@KindOldRaven3 жыл бұрын
Rocket Science - considering the Thrustmaster Eswap (X) Pro controllers because of my large hands... do you think there are any major differences between an Eswap Pro with NXG S2s or an Eswap X Pro with NXG S5s when it comes to how they behave in Rocket League? Seeing as one will be basically using Ps4 firmware and the other Xbox One firmware... I thought perhaps that could still make a difference. I would like to go with the X Pro, but if it's limited or less responsive than the Pro I might change my mind.
@24Malik233 жыл бұрын
bro checkout anti micro it gives me 0.3ms input lag on my logitech controller
@proefslak3 жыл бұрын
The fact that there's subtitles for a 30+ min. video is simply amazing
@RocketScience3 жыл бұрын
You can thank KZfaq for their auto sync. I just have to provide the script that I wrote anyway.
@GoldenHeartNecklace3 жыл бұрын
@@RocketScience Still cheers for adding it.
@Angel-ns4km3 жыл бұрын
@@IndividualQuestion merc. The body closely resembles the standardized hit box, you have a higher chance of demoing them when they jump to avoid it as you can actually see your whole hit box, compared to octane/fennec
@Nick77ab23 жыл бұрын
The fact that there's a wild yens is simply more amazing -Unchained.
@6vitamin2 жыл бұрын
@@RocketScience Careful with that if you have ad reads, it de-syncs the scripts. - I guess there’s an option to account for the ad read, but I’ve seen it still bug out and take a while to sync up again.
@AvithOrtega2 жыл бұрын
Finally, a great in-depth review about controllers. I was tired of just finding videos about people reviewing the controllers "on the surface", but I wanted to see a scientific one that really takes out the subjectivity so I can have the most accuarate decision about getting one of those, especially for competitive games. Thank you!
@aliarsalan96142 жыл бұрын
So which controller u bought?
@AvithOrtega2 жыл бұрын
@@aliarsalan9614 due my financial status I have the Xbox Series one, but when I have the money I will surely get the ones with higher refresh/tic rates and better analog stick accuracy.
@Renekor2 жыл бұрын
@@AvithOrtega cuál?
@Wardron3 жыл бұрын
the effort youve put into this is nuts
@chrishunter12262 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining the XBOX One controller polling rate limitation even when set to 1000hz. I've spent hours trying to see where I went wrong bc I kept setting it at 1000Hz but getting the same input lag test results over and over in XInput. I thought it had to do with an error on my part. This is a great video to actually understand how the benefits work.
@1SlyGuy Жыл бұрын
So is overclocking your Xbox controller still worth it?
@chrishunter1226 Жыл бұрын
@@1SlyGuy for me I believe so. 👍🏻
@CJRHD7 Жыл бұрын
@@chrishunter1226how do you overclock a controller on pc? Sorry newb question
@danybackstone2 жыл бұрын
Came here to choose between Xbox 360, One, elite & X, and ended by thinking of a dual sense... Good video, good vocabulary, good practical tests. Thanks!
@MunchitoRamoncito87 Жыл бұрын
You hands down make the best RL videos for detailed stuff like this! It would be awesome to see another update to this video with newer controllers like Thrustmaster, KingKong, Wolverine, etc. 🙏🙏
@Phatxual3 жыл бұрын
We're all super grateful you're suffering through this rigorous testing! I hope people see this before their wallets suffer the consequence of planned obsolescence😆
@freefalling2earth3 жыл бұрын
I watched it all. And despite the summary I’m still confused. Which is the best one to get for Xbox series S / X ?
@thaddeus15192 жыл бұрын
I didn't see it and bought the eswap X first before realizing the triggers are so vastly diff then what ive been used to that it destroys my power slide cuts.
@Phatxual2 жыл бұрын
@@freefalling2earth Sorry yo, didn't see your comment till now lol but to answer your question, for Xbox, the best in sense of input lag and switches and what not, not just imo, would be the Thrustmaster Eswap Pro-X. I do have one and can speak for it's consistency. The only downside is the Thrustmapper app on Xbox is a bit finicky. Seems the PC version is priority but it gets the job done lol hope that helps!🧡
@Phatxual2 жыл бұрын
@@thaddeus1519 Really ehh? Hmmm.. well that isn't fun. Unfortunate to hear man! Have you tried any of the triggers from other mod kits? None of the triggers really bother me any. Besides it hurting my finger a bit more if I squeeze too hard, because they're metal lol but that's more user error on my end😅
@thaddeus15192 жыл бұрын
@@Phatxual No def not! I had no idea it was going to be so big. My own fault for not researching it in depth before buying. It's also just a weird ass shape. Don't understand why they couldn't copy the xbox shape that has been ideal for 10+ years and just add those amazing sticks they have. No argument here tho the sticks are super superior to xbox stock controllers.
@Procsy2 жыл бұрын
Best controller comparison I have ever seen period! Well done!
@v1kt0u5 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your valuable research!!
@Gonger0216 күн бұрын
Jajaja mexicano
@Bravo-oo9vd3 жыл бұрын
I sincerely thank you for all this comprehensive testing you've done! I'm using Xbox One S controller, now I finally know that it's objectively the worst, yay... The wear over time is also terrible and I'll need to replace it soon - I'll definitely use your link if I don't have any significantly cheaper options available.
@RangerTap2 жыл бұрын
My boy went full homemade scientist on us! Love it!! So many answers answered 👏👏
@LauWo3 жыл бұрын
This deserves so much more views! Let's gooooo!
@seamon97323 жыл бұрын
Most comprehensive analysis I've seen so far. Great work!
@bealight5141 Жыл бұрын
Cant tell you how much I appreciate what you do for this community. Ive played with xbox controllers since the game came out and never got past Champ 2 on pc. Switched to DS4 and overclocked my controller, now I hit GC after only a month of using DS4. There is so much input lag on xbox controllers, that when I switched to DS4, my timing was VERY off because the car would turn wayyy faster than I expected it to. I spent so much time with my $8000 build being bottlenecked by CONTROLLER LATENCY! WTF MICROSOFT! Idk how I was competing in C2 with that much input lag. I get stable 480fps on 12700k/2080ti and I run DS4 wireless @1000hz polling.
@astralpurpose1344 Жыл бұрын
How long did it take you to get used to the DS4 from Xbox? Kinda feel like the Xbox controller is just not fully compatible with Rocket league.
@bealight5141 Жыл бұрын
@@astralpurpose1344 Honestly it was like a week or so of it feeling weird in my hands, (big hands Im 6'4) but I was still doing better immediately. Also, the PS5 (dualsense) controller can be set to 8000hz polling and has even lower input lag (0.0ms vs 0.3-0.5ms) than the DS4. One thing of note, I felt like the DS4 sticks had more range of motion (maybe 1/4" more travel?) than the PS5 version, but the PS5 controllers thumbsticks and the shape of the controller feel much more like the xbox controller to me if that matters you. Both are insanely better than any xbox controller. Raising your polling rate is almost as helpful as raising your frames per second. Two people of equal skill/fps are not even remotely equal if one has 250hz polling (xbox) and the other has 8000hz polling (dualsense). If you dont know, the polling rate determines how often your controller sends info to the pc. Higher polling rate means that your controller inputs will be registered way faster and way more often at 8000hz than 250hz. Meaning if we both press jump at the same time, I'll be in the air before you if my polling rate is higher. (granted your pc needs to be able to handle the polling rate and higher polling is more helpful with high fps than low fps). If you are freestyling or air dribbling, you will have more control with higher polling rate because the controller will register your adjustments much faster. Hope this helps you and anyone else that might see this. Good luck out there 🙏
@astralpurpose1344 Жыл бұрын
@@bealight5141 hmmm thanks for the comment bro. I picked up the eswap x pro and it just feels horrible. I’m 6’3 with average hand size. I’m might try out the dualsense edge as I have so much muscle memory with the back a paddle.
@Broyyyyyy3 ай бұрын
IDK if you're still making content anywhere or not but I've just come across your channel and this older content is FANTASTIC stuff. I wish someone would get this comprehensive on the popular controllers of 2024 such as Apex 4, V3P, Scuf Envision pro, the many Gamesir controllers etc etc. it would be so helpful. I have both the T4K & V3P but recently came across Gamepadla that shows how slow the Flydigi controllers really are. I'm guessing it has to do with some of what you covered in this video. Not to mention how truly fast the T4K supposedly is. That thing is an absolute steal at $35-40
@venize30502 жыл бұрын
The amount of information in this video is ridiculous, respect
@marbsisgarbs31563 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Hope the algorithm blesses you
@tman88763 жыл бұрын
That weird Xbox analog issue… I wonder if it’s just a windows driver problem or if it goes deeper. If you have the time and curiosity, I’d love to see further testing, potentially on Linux. Great video! I’ll pick up a dualsense later today :)
@DrinkAndDrive3 жыл бұрын
i'm gonna leave this video on, muted in a background tab, hope it still helps
@pxsfly3 жыл бұрын
Wow, so comprehensive and you have obviously put so much time into making this video, I have subscribed
@narviz3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the effort you put into creating this content. Thank you.
@javianbrown86273 жыл бұрын
Never seen such a detailed controller review so I'm gonna check out your other stuff
@georgeosgood36073 жыл бұрын
Great video. Got myself a DualSense and I love it. I used to have a DS4 and, while it was great, I always struggled holding it because of my large hands.
@Sebastian_Kawiorski3 жыл бұрын
„Oh you subscribed thanks” said in a perfect very moment that I clicked sub button. Perfect timing bro xD
@damiangreen2993 жыл бұрын
OMG this video is amazing and came at just the perfect time for me. I watched it twice. Thank you. It's a video that I imagine pro-gamers should watch too in order to remain competitive. Personally, I've only just recently discovered Rocket League and have quite quickly come to love it and come to realize how significant this game will be in the future of e-sports. I also realize just how limited your movements are using only a keyboard. I haven't been much of a gamer in the past, but I know I want to play more Rocket League now, and I also know I need an analog controller in order to develop further as a player. In just the past few days of playing with a keyboard, I knew I was going to have to do some research to figure out what controller to get, and this video just helped me save so much time, and helped me to learn some things about controllers (like overclocking) that I probably wouldn't have ever even thought about having not watched it. So once again, thank you so much for providing that information in such great detail. I am definitely now a subscriber, and look forward to more content. Thanks again.
@djjantzen553 жыл бұрын
I wish all controller Reviews would be like this, instead of beeing opinion pieces where i can pull the same conclusion out of my but within a few mins of just looking at them.
@fwabble2 жыл бұрын
Now this is fantastic information - You and Battle(non)sense need to get together! THANK YOU 👍
@tablettablete1863 жыл бұрын
I don't know why I got this recommended, but WOW it is gooodd!!!!!
@mox95742 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable content. This video should have so many more views. Keep up the good work!
@EODHammer2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I wish you could make another and include Scuff and Battle Beaver, some of the Pro alternative controllers like this. Excellent video though!
@corneus53222 жыл бұрын
Im gonna show my friends this video, they always bash med for playing with a DS4 controller and saying that I think the xbox controllers perform poorly. Thanks for making this video!
@herkules5933 жыл бұрын
That's the kind of review the world needs. I've bought an Elite Series 2, thought it was shit, had it replaced, thought it was shit again, returned it, got the eSwap and am happy now. Had I had this video back then it would have saved me a lot of trouble. Sincere thanks m8.
@SuperAp0calypse2 жыл бұрын
That analogue stick accuracy explains why I bump into objects far more in Destiny 2 on Xbox compared to PS5 - I knew it had to be the Xbox Controller, but didnt think it was something so obvious. That is a little worrying, especially as the Elite 2 controller is so expensive - you want consistency when paying so much.
@jenekjeka22292 жыл бұрын
Amazing video dude, so much information
@joshj3josh6103 жыл бұрын
Thanks man every time a new section started I was like “seriously, more?” (in a good way.) Also appreciate your recommendations, it’s hard for me to remember previous content to make a decision.
@JacobRL3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate all the research you do brother ❤️
@bloodbeast47973 жыл бұрын
you are a hero. the most indepth review that ive needed after returning 6+ controllers. thank you.
@cheatoffchannel6320 Жыл бұрын
This is the most useful and informative video on the topic, that I've ever seen! Keep it up ❤
@mont3iro7773 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND UNDER RATED.
@GhillieVanilli2 жыл бұрын
Gonna buy Eswap S. Thx bro you saved me money and time :) all my friends who swear by the xbox elite 2 controller are throwing up right now :P
@puschock31183 жыл бұрын
Best controller review out there.
@turtlemastertimmy3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I really appreciate the hard work you put into this investigation. I've used your tips in the past to reduce input lack by overclocking my ds4 controller. After moving from ps4 to my new PC I noticed a huge difference in input lag, especially because I have a 144 hz monitor. I never realized how much input lag was hurting my mechanics because it was always there, so I didn't really notice it. At that point I used your videos to minimize the input lag from all sources. Not only did I see an instant rank improvement, but training became much easier and I am improving at a much higher rate. I was hard stuck in diamond before and now I'm in the champ ranks and still doing well. Thanks a lot!
@alanbarnett3283 жыл бұрын
Holy moly, this was amazing. I've been really considering getting the eSwap X, looks like I made a good choice! I still need to test one, because I play with a really weird grip (pinch both sticks with thumb and index, middle on bumpers, ring fingers on triggers) and have small hands, so it may not be comfortable. Right now I'm using the 2nd gen Nvidia Shield controller, I got to try it at a friend's house one day and it felt amazing with the grip that I use. Unfortunately, I'm experiencing some ridiculous stick drift (software based I think, occasionally the left stick moves full-deflection to the left. I can fix it momentarily by moving it, but within 2-5 seconds it goes back. This is not a constant problem, some times it acts up more than others. It's very bothersome, especially since that's how I use air roll) and want to get a new controller. Thanks so much for the comparison!
@chrisb70513 жыл бұрын
you need to upload a POV of how you grip your controller hahahha what the fuck!
@peter2oo1512 жыл бұрын
Youre a menace for that grip unless you have a disability
@rafadorock42 жыл бұрын
Hi you are not considering a very and most important tweak. Where either bluetooth and / or USB can benefit in input lag and make things really good... Did you try to use your computer drivers in MSI mode with High Interrupt Priority? Enable all your drivers in MSI mode except for audio cards and Intel Management Engine. Also, enable MSI in your video card, set it to High on the priority collumn, reboot your PC and test controllers again. I reduced my XBOX Series controller to 3.5ms and the Dualsense ranging from 0 (YES 0ms!!) to 1.5ms. Another important thing for the NVIDIA card users, enable low latency on ultra mode and tripple buffer on games. This will present you the most smooth experience in terms of input lag. Try it.
@angelrodriguez90693 жыл бұрын
Crazy! As soon as I subscribed you said, "oh you subscribed." Almost like you were watching me!
@06noah3 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this video and now that it arrived, I have to say the work you put in is very noticeable. Great video. I will probably get the eswap x pro now that I can confirm that it is the right controller for me. Thanks.
@HarryDrews6 ай бұрын
Very, very thorough work. Thank you for the work you've done in this space
@MrGoodvibesCR2 жыл бұрын
very well done and made a big difference in making up my mind
@theangryveteran2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for creating this video! I just started looking into buying a new controller. This definitely helped me in my decision.
@budthecyborg4575 Жыл бұрын
This video is still the most comprehensive controller review on the internet.
@darren16933 жыл бұрын
Halfway dead, you're a legend.
@enso45933 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this, amazing work!
@realclvn3 жыл бұрын
Incredible job as always!
@JLiepins2 жыл бұрын
I've been down the rabbit hole of choosing a controller for a good few weeks now and I really feel like that I'll go for Eswap now. Thanks! Another interesting product to see reviewed like this would be razer wolverine series.
@LockMatch2 жыл бұрын
Have you bought an eswap? I heard they have a crazy stick drift problem
@JLiepins2 жыл бұрын
@@LockMatch Hey! Yes, I bought Eswap Pro X - The Xbox version. It has perfect sticks with zero stick drift even after 4 months of regular use. I also did an overclock on it, but after consulting in halfwaydeads discord server, it seems to be true that PS version overclocks better, if You care about that. I chose to go with X version so that onscreen symbols matches face button symbols on controller. I can only recommend the controller. My only gripe with it is the placement of back buttons. I was hoping to use my little finger and ring finger to be able to access all 4 of them at the same time, but that isn't confortable for me with normal sized hands. Instead I use ring finger to play around with 2 buttons on each side. With some clever rebinding I feel pretty comfortable with this setup. Recommended. :)
@fba963 жыл бұрын
i just like the work you put in. for the algorithm!
@ryokasisters3 жыл бұрын
This was everything I was hoping for and more! Thank you!
@Taha_tr2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, u helped a lot on my decision. Can you make video about which way is the best for using Dualsense on pc? Steam, DS4Windows or DualsenseX etc. ?
@MEUAR3 жыл бұрын
18:14 Can confirm this issue on a Xbox One controller bought during the 1st pandemic wave (march 2020), right from the get go. No use and already not a perfect recentering. However I've used it A LOT since then (thanks to ya 3 consecutive waves ;D) and it hasn't degraded further, yet. This lil' thingy aside, a very solid controller all around. Eager to see if it'll outlive my previous Xbox 360 controller (12+ years of good and hardy service).
@thebig33tuna3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thorough review! Do you have plans to continue adding more 3rd party controllers to your data? I know some people use Scuf, and I personally have a Razer Wolverine. Any way we can get notified if you update your data in the linked Onedrive file, or should we just keep an eye out for another video?
@L4zY20092 жыл бұрын
would be great to see those controllers you mentioned tested too. I would also be intressted in the controller from hex gaming be tested
@NordicNomadv3 жыл бұрын
Great work, i have been waiting for your video. i hope you can test more controllers in the near future and that the companies making them take your data to improve their product :)
@AbsolutumDominiom Жыл бұрын
Best controller comprehensive video. Thank You For this!
@HybridAngelZero2 жыл бұрын
As someone who loves nerding out about controllers, this was a treat
@sheikhu10392 жыл бұрын
When I first got a Dualsense it was cause it looked cool,but after playin fighting games I realised how much better it was, all my combos and hitconfirms were much more consistent, I was very surprised just how much the difference was,my only issue is that the dpad doesn't feel nice to use in mortal Kombat
@Zamm1n2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for talking about how bad the analog stick recentering is on the Xbox Elite 2 controller. This issue really doesn't get enough exposure and it's the only thing ruining the feel of what otherwise is a great feeling controller. This problem is what is sometimes referred to as a large "mechanical deadzone", meaning the area in the center where there is no spring tension. It seems the cause for it are those adjustable tension mechanisms. I guess when you add more moving parts the tolerances build up and this is the result. I wish Microsoft would have just used the standard non-adjustable analog sticks found in the Series X|S controller instead. Or even implement an eSwap style stick module to allow users to purchase higher tension sticks as accessories if they want it.
@luksplace75392 жыл бұрын
This video and spreadsheet is amazing. Still curious how Razer and Power-A offerings fall into these latency charts!
@xKillZone99 Жыл бұрын
Razer is the fastest responding controller I've ever used
@Shadelord19913 жыл бұрын
Great video, very clear! Thanks for all the effort put into it.
@gustavosanches56743 жыл бұрын
Omg thats a real detailed content, congratulations and thanks haha
@Inexorable143 жыл бұрын
Really good stuff. Thank you for doing this.
@VladimirKorshak3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being such a responsive youtuber!
@tommycocacocke2 жыл бұрын
Impressive testing!
@EridCR3 жыл бұрын
Very valuable information; honestly, eSwap sounds amazing, but the fact that you see the Xbox layout on Rocket League bothers me more than it should (and it's a shame it doesn't work right out of the box, but it's a minor issue for casual players). For now my DualSense is fine, but when/if it breaks, I'll definitely consider the eSwap and I'll try to overcome my annoyance about the GUI layout lol. Thanks for gathering all this data!.
@gonzalosanchez15753 жыл бұрын
Hey sorry to bother, does your dualsense still work? Where I live it's not exactly cheap and well, I would like it to last longer than 6 months you know?
@GK-nu8nt3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always great
@TheCebo867 ай бұрын
Some corrections: The Elite 2 is slightly bigger than the "Series" Controllers. It has the size of "One" Controllers (which are bigger). You don't need prying tools to open a Series X Controller. Push a trigger, get your thumb between the trigger an the shell, clip off the panel. Meanwhile there are replacement stick modules for the Elite 2 with all the same features, which you can order.
@VudrokWolf3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, can we see you play the piano? That'd be nice!
@VudrokWolf3 жыл бұрын
@@sausagedealer3061 a Rocket League Theme :)
@bullz1983 Жыл бұрын
I just want to leave a comment for the algorithm. Super great video. You saved me from buying the Elite controller and I'll stick with the standard wireless controller. Have saved me 70 euros through this video. Thankseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :)
@konawolv3 жыл бұрын
@Rocket Science The reason the Xbox controller seems less accurate in your precision testing has to do with the calculation method of the analog stick. The xbox controllers default to, i believe, a Radial or True Axis calculation method. This method is not smooth, and its designed to be a "close but no cigar" type of input method. For instance, MS is aware that looking at a 45 degree angle is common. So, if you move your analog stick at 43-47 degrees, it will more or less lock you onto 45 degrees. On the elite controller, you can change this input method to "true diagonals" which will give you the raw input mapping that you get on the eSwapx controller.
@austine26802 жыл бұрын
Hope he sees this
@traaage77822 жыл бұрын
@@austine2680 I have the elite controller. Even with using true diagonals there is still something wonky going on with the sticks. I did not notice till I tried a PS controller. Movements were definitely smoother. When i test the elite 2 controller using true diagonals I still see the same thumbstick behavior
@5meterdeleter2 жыл бұрын
What does this mean in terms of accuracy and aiming? I’m assuming raw input is always going to be better and more consistent?
@konawolv2 жыл бұрын
@@5meterdeleter technically true diagonals input method is the most accurate in terms of "where you put the joystick is where you will be aiming". But, radial is sort of a training wheels input method. There can be an advantage to using it if the game you're playing predominantly deals with east-west and/or north-south aiming. Ex: halo games. The reason is because if you desire to move your joystick along the x axis at a flat 0 degrees to shoot someone, accidentally moving it + or - 2 degrees can throw you off target. But, default settings will basically apply a deadzone to those axis's. Meaning, if your off a degree or two, it keep your aim going in the desired direction. But yes, generally speaking, true diagonals is the best option
@5meterdeleter2 жыл бұрын
@@konawolv I think I kind of get it. So you're saying radial is smoother, and true diagonal is raw input? I play Apex mainly, and I've been using the xbox controller forever. I feel sometimes I would have crazy good aim, and then the next day my aim would be off for some reason. I'm wondering if radial has anything to do with this phenomenon.
@mmfama77092 ай бұрын
Wow. Thank you so much! I'm going to buy slightly used eSwap pro for about 60€. Champion I, here I come!
@malek2rrr3 жыл бұрын
Wow man tysm your such a legend for doing this video. Keep it up 😃
@AlgaeGaming3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all of this work!
@kt_gam1ng347 Жыл бұрын
This video reinforces my decision to buy the AIM version of the dual sense. All the upgrades. And lifetime warranty. And fine bro. I dropped the like. Now chill out 😂
@Vapethoven2 жыл бұрын
Just, cheers; great video and thank you for the work!
@NarekAvetisyan2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video bro. Well done.
@ooooswain Жыл бұрын
Just tested input lag myself. Both controllers on latest firmware the dualsense averaged 3ms, the xbox one series x averaged 9ms. Both connected with Bluetooth. Make sure you update firmware though. Before I updated the Xbox controller it was getting 30ms input lag.
@budthecyborg45753 жыл бұрын
I wish Sony and Microsoft would sell a special version of their controller with 30g resistance on the sticks and triggers. As-is I always rip them apart and dremel the springs to lower tension, which is excessively difficult on the analog sticks. Most of my controllers just have the spring completely removed from the left analog stick (even minimal spring tension can aggravate my Tendonitis).
@DanielZH4 ай бұрын
Very interesting video learned a lot! thanks.
@Kornreis Жыл бұрын
Omg, there is so much more science behind that one graph "Mean input lag" I found of you.. For my PC I have an Xbox 360 Wired Controller here (I don't think, you tested this one? But it should be worse than the newer Xbox Controllers) and an unopened Dualshock 4. I want less input lag, so what I've learned from your videos so far is, I should rather use that DS4 with USB and overclock it, if I don't want to buy the DualSense. Correct? Thx for the work you put in. Edit: Now I saw your input lag bug you talk about in a diff video. Does it mean I should test every USB port in my PC with the Precision Tester for example?
@moabi41583 жыл бұрын
I love the amount of detail in this video
@Spart12693 жыл бұрын
Your channel deserves much more subs and views
@SmileyFaceGo2 жыл бұрын
Very very very very very good and informative video! I came from vCuda's recommendation to watch this video over the Thrustmaster. I watched his video, purchased a Thrustmaster eswap X Pro, then watched this to see if I'd made a bad decision. Time will tell once my controller is delivered, but I think I made a good choice.
@jakeb95082 жыл бұрын
How do you like it? I just bought one.
@kevinnsales5922 жыл бұрын
@@jakeb9508 I still have it, and it's doing pretty good! I purchased a spare thumb stick and I haven't had to use it yet. No drift unless I move the stick a little and then take my thumb off of it. But, if I move the thumb stick back, it's back to that brand new no drift feeling. I like the software. The ability to set the triggers' activation spots independently is a possible game changer. I'm coming from a Razer Wolverine Ultimate, and can say that there is a learning curve to the precision of these sticks. But, it feels (and by the proof of this video, performs) more accurate.
@DD-pc9yx2 жыл бұрын
Don’t usually comment but what an amazing video 👌🏾
@jacobchang45882 жыл бұрын
You are doing God's work here. Thank you!
@robsonramos50772 жыл бұрын
thaaaaaaanks so much, what a job! keep doing things like that please
@MrAudisek3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this really helped me pick a controller to buy for PC for playing TrackMania. I was very close to buying the Elite 2 or DualSense but I'll settle for a Series X controller due to it being natively compatible with Windows and the analog stick centering performance.
@RealGingerTea3 жыл бұрын
This is really amazing content. And it highlights the lack of though put in by manufacturers on their controllers. With all this information I'm wondering if sticking with a mouse and keyboard is actually better. But for casual gaming, I'll stick with an xbox controller simply for comfort. Thank you for this video!
@MrGren-hq8yw3 жыл бұрын
Any info on the new eswap X pro controller? Since it is designed for Xbox Series X, does it have the same issues the xbox controllers in your review had, or is it similar in performance to the PS4 version eswap you reviewed?
@Melodia-.-3 жыл бұрын
You mentioned that the eswap controllers have polling rates based on the licensing companies standards-- so my ?'n is: Does the eswap x controller behave the same as the p/s variant which you cover here?
@4309423 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your dedicated work on this
@budthecyborg45753 жыл бұрын
It's shocking that the stick-click is actually 90% to One Kilogram, that is absurd and I have no doubt this high actuation force is causing premature wear. I'd expect 250g at the most. No wonder I hate using Stick-Click so much.
@kyzyl49153 жыл бұрын
I can highly recommend the DualSense controller for its thumbstick accuracy and centralization. From someone who has owned over a dozen ps4 controllers, I’ve never had one has precise and accurate as the DualSense when it comes to the thumb sticks. I can easily use 0.05 deadzone on PC and get stalls which is usually pretty hard on low deadzones. Took a couple weeks to get used to but it feels so much better now. Also, hope this comment helps!
@nickdiazarmymfers85822 жыл бұрын
What about input lag does it feel more responsive than D4 ? I just bought a Ps5 but i am still using the d4 controllers 😂😂 since i am used to them for 8 years now .