Ultimate Land Rover / Range Rover Diagnostic Tool Test - GAP IID vs. Otofix vs. Launch vs. Topdon!

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Time for another round of challengers to take on the mighty IID tool.
This time we've got offerings from Otofix, Launch and TopDon.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:44 - The Competitors
3:40 - Part 1: Finding a suspension fault
11:27 - Part 2: Special Functions
14:24 - Part 2: Special Functions (Summary)
15:11 - Part 3: Bi-Directional Control
16:05 - Part 4: Updates & other features
17:12 - Part 5: Overall Summary
19:40 - Final thoughts
#rangerover #l322 #mods

Пікірлер: 97

@SamsMotors 10 ай бұрын

Corrections: It turns out the D1 Lite DOES actually have Bi-directional control. I somehow missed this in my testing - but it makes it an even better value proposition now!

@DJTechReviews 10 ай бұрын

Would love to see you do some more retrofitting. I’ve seen a few conversations in the forums about retrofitting the heated and cooled seats. I noticed yours don’t have the cooled - could be an idea? If that’s even possible. Apparently one chap got pretty far with it but got stumped on the wiring looms. If not that, maybe retrofitting the DVD screen headrests, however, that might not be your cup of tea and probably not worth it. It’s that curiosity of if it is possible or not. Much like the swathes of people trying to upgrade new Apple products SSDs and RAM.

@SamsMotors 10 ай бұрын

@@DJTechReviews Cheers for the comment, and great suggestions. The cooled seats would be a good test - but I'm not sure I actually want them. The heating in the non-cooled version that I have is actually superior, and being in mild Ireland, I use the heating a lot more than I would cooling. If I can find the parts to do DVD headrests etc I'd definitely be keen!

@rpc2210 10 ай бұрын

Golly, Sam, now I'm confused. The Otofix website comparison between the D1 & D1LITE would suggest that only the D1 has bi-directional control.

@rpc2210 10 ай бұрын

BTW, thanks for the informative videos. My L322 TDV8 is on it's way to me this very moment!

@almac414 10 ай бұрын

Does the Topdon have the ability to configure the air suspension heights on the L322 @SamsMotors? You can pick them up for about £650 which seems reasonable for me given I have several cars and also work on those of some friends too. However, the L322 is the likely candidate for most use and so there's no point in going for the D1 if there are some key bits missing over the IID.

@-zerocool- 8 ай бұрын

As someone who always buys dealer level scan tools, this was a very helpful video thanks!

@robholland1937 10 ай бұрын

The support from GAP is worth the extra cost too. Pat there is simply the best. 100% customer focussed

@LDsgarage 10 ай бұрын

I agree! I also have the GAP tool, Pat was great and answered a few of my questions when learning to use the tool, so yes, it is worth the price, in my opinion. 👍

@happyjohnwalks 10 ай бұрын

L322 Westminster owner. I saw an add for Carly, followed it and it was just £45. 81, tried it thinking it wouldn't be much cop but it found 29 issues and cleared them all, I now know I had an issue with an ERG air pressure sensor, however it doesn't seem to be repeating, much like the water in the fuel issue it showed, quite impressed considering the cost!

@jimsmotoringmayhem 10 ай бұрын

Great video as usual Sam, the most adventurous thing I did with my iiD tool was to add a spare key!.. it worked a treat!.. rather surprisingly for me 😂

@paulfin100 10 ай бұрын

Just purchased the D1 Lite on the back of this video. Cheers Sam, great work. We are in the market for an L322 here in Ireland (crew cabbed of course, we aren't all crazy paying the ffrr roax tax 😂) Will be bringing the tool with me on viewings.

@exxbootneck 5 ай бұрын

Hi Sam. Nice presentation. One item/function I would like to have seen on your list is new key fob programming. LR main dealers charge upto £400 for a Disco 3 key fob. That alone justifies the price of purchasing a GAP tool seeing as fob copies complete with new circuit boards only cost around £15 off the Internet.

@staths77 10 ай бұрын

As always, another great video from Sam. I would really appreciate a more complete guide to using the Gap iid tool for novices like me. Especially the configuration part.

@SamsMotors 10 ай бұрын

Definitely, I'll add it to the video list. I'll have to see if Gap want to sponsor a video for me 😅

@micklamb9942 10 ай бұрын

Great content as always Sam and a good review

@DJTechReviews 10 ай бұрын

Ah yes, Sam’s back! Been waiting for the next instalment for a while. Great video as always!

@SamsMotors 10 ай бұрын

Hope you enjoyed it!

@Phantom-mk4kp 5 ай бұрын

You should do an updated video on the D1 light with the latest software installed

@eoghanfla6343 6 ай бұрын

By any chance did you test these 3 units for key fob programming? I’ve seen another lad use the d1 lite to do an LR3 key, I was pretty annoyed then when I tried the function on my more expensive Autel and it can’t do it.

@DiscoGruffalo 10 ай бұрын

For me the IID tool is worth the money for the programble suspension height settings alone. Defender owners think nothing of spending 500 quid on a 4 inch lift. The IID gives you 4 set heights for that money, plus all the diagnostics, live data, ccf and two way control. Plus updates for life.

@aaravgupta4441 9 ай бұрын

@Tuppy14710 the updates cost extra init

@greenisleoverland6469 3 ай бұрын

Hi Sam, Great vid there and thanks for taking the time to compare these... I was looking for a Topdon and when clicking on your link, it presents a TOPDON ArtiDiag Pro rather than the Topdon Phoenix Lite 2. I take it that the ArtiDiag Pro is very different to the Lite 2?

@SamsMotors 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment and sub! It looks like the Phoenix lite has been discontinued now, but the ArtiDiag Pro is pretty much an equivalent machine at a lower price. At a glance it looks like it supports pretty much all the features of the Phoenix including Bi-directional control and ECU coding, and it'd be a great choice for Land Rovers any most other makes too.

@jerrygreene7139 10 ай бұрын

Sam, thanks for that video. The 2 messages I get on the dash are “Service Required” and “Oil Change Required”. From your review, it looks like any of the 3 tools would be able to reset those message, right?

@SamsMotors 10 ай бұрын

Hey Jerry, Yep! Simple service reset required.

@Rustee_Blade_Paul 10 ай бұрын

Sam I would much appreciate a tool that can clone a tpms sensor I’ve had one go on me I tried to clone a new one with icarsoft and it initially went away but now still comes up less often but still occasionally says no signal received ? Many thanks Paul

@modelman1400 10 ай бұрын

Will this work for my 2001 P38 DHSE??

@445fhn 8 ай бұрын

Being JLR, does the Mongoose SDD as used on Jaguar work on RR?

@aaravgupta4441 9 ай бұрын

Does it cover more functions compared to autel mp808k or less?

@davealbon2085 9 ай бұрын

My interior fan recently stopped working on my l322...after asking on fb i decided to replace the hedgehog and it worked! Would this equipment have known that was the problem? Tia

@Uksus131 10 ай бұрын

HI Sam ! i use a tool called think diag, does everything the same as iid but costs millions pounds cheaper :)

@georgeionescu6615 10 ай бұрын

😊do you have a link mate? Thanks

@KFORDYCE73 10 ай бұрын

Great video. Really useful for me personally all be it too late. I have a 2002 L322 V8 4.4 petrol (BMW) and the OBD tool I purchased will not recognise the VIN no. This means I can’t access suspension settings and such like. It does say the icarsoft should do what I needed so currently trying to sort it out with the supplier. Keep up the great videos. I always look forward to them and they never disappoint. 👍

@SamsMotors 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! Which iCarsoft did you get?

@KFORDYCE73 10 ай бұрын

LR V3.0. It works on my 2015 Sport.

@highlandmalt6368 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for such a well put together guide - I have a 3.6 L322, but have a number of other vehicles too, including a pre-OBD2 Bentley, so I'm very interested in the TopDon as it appears to have the correct adapter for the Bentley (to be confirmed, the Bentley might be a proprietary design). I don't think i can justify the IID due to it being locked to the L322 and if I ever needed any configuration I could just pay someone else to do that, I guess.

@SamsMotors 10 ай бұрын

You’re welcome! Jealous of the Bentley! One thing to remember is that on older vehicles there will usually be less service functions etc available on the diag tool, so you may not get the full benefit of the Topdon’s capabilities on it - but like you say, there aren’t many options that will work at all with older vehicles.

@highlandmalt6368 10 ай бұрын

@@SamsMotors yes, I think the information would be pretty basic on the Bentley - misfire cylinder 5 or something like that. I know there is a separate test box just for the HVAC and another for the suspension, so those are two areas that presumably wouldn't be covered. But I also have 4 audi so I think that TopDon would be the one for me.

@KenanTuncaydin 5 ай бұрын

Hello i have a question and i need help. :) i have a l322 2003 model range rover. Problem is i can not calibration the height. With launch the car dont accept. With software.. or obd2 i must buy? Gap tool i can not buy because i live in turkey. :) jlr sdd not working right? İ just need to calibration the height. Nothing else.. thanks very mutch

@adzy166 10 ай бұрын

Can the iiD tool program keys for a 2006 l322? I only have one key and the remote doesn’t work so I’d like to buy 2 flip style keys, cut them and then program the fobs to remote unlock, start vehicle etc.

@jeffreygwinn5081 9 ай бұрын

I've used it to program keys for my LR3

@solentlifeuk 6 ай бұрын

One function that I cannot find reference to : L322 Camera diagnostics .... recently replaced front cameras on Vogue SE 4.4TDV8 2012 .... and video display for those two cameras is laid on side 90 deg to right .. all other cameras correct. Is there any 'tool' to reset the video display ??

@SamsMotors 6 ай бұрын

Are you sure the cameras are installed in the correct orientation? I've not seen anything in the IID tool regarding this, but my car doesn't have the surround view camera system.

@CristianZamora 7 ай бұрын

How about an OBD monitor, just a screen with gauges for LR4 diésel?

@stuart6973 9 ай бұрын

Love the craic

@rcsimfanaticstv453 21 күн бұрын

Hi Sam I bought an icarsoft jlr v3.0 with the intent to do transmission programing but it seems it doesn't have that option. I thought according to your analysis it can't only do suspension ride height. ONE OTHER THING IS I WONDER IF I NEED TO UPDATE BEFORE USE.

@SamsMotors 21 күн бұрын

Hi, what do you mean by transmission programming?

@michaelnoyes4817 10 ай бұрын

What can they do on p38"s?

@pkerr061 11 күн бұрын

What's your opinion on Nanocom? I'm aware its landrover products only but similar price to the IID?

@SamsMotors 11 күн бұрын

For the earlier generation of Land Rovers (Discovery 2, P38 RR, Freelander 1), Nanocom is the best tool by a big margin. On later generations (L322, D3/D4 etc) it's quickly outclassed by other tools unfortunately.

@ozzbear6221 10 ай бұрын

No mention of nanocom or britpart lynx evo. I have the lynx and it seems to do everything but will probably upgrade to a nanocom as my addiction to Land Rover products seems here to stay😂

@SamsMotors 10 ай бұрын

Nanocom is a bit weak for the L322 to be honest. It's in its element with the D2 and P38 which aren't well covered by these types of tools

@Ryan-kf4zu 3 ай бұрын

Hi Sam, do any of these do TCM Calibration. I need a new one but need to code the VIN

@Ryan-kf4zu Ай бұрын

Did you find a machine to do this?

@wadihakim5252 9 ай бұрын

Its not a fair wy you dont dont take the launch x431 v to compare with the topdon instead the 919

@kriswilliams8233 9 ай бұрын

Ever considered putting the iCarsoft LR v3.0 into the mix? I use it and never had issues. It doesn’t allow CCF option but certainly does all the rest. I’ve just calibrated suspension following front bag split and set it up perfectly, seems to follow exact same procedure. There are all the usual extras - tight tolerance, rear brakes active damper cal and a load of other calibrations. I use it on my dad’s L320 and my L322 (no VIN lock) to do all the above procedures and it was only £170 RRP. Just a thought - I’ve always toyed with the idea of Gap but haven’t found a need yet and the car always needs the £500 for something else 😢

@SamsMotors 9 ай бұрын

Cheers for the comment! I actually did a comparison last year with the iCarsoft vs. IID vs. generic OBD2, and the iCarsoft did pretty well.

@kriswilliams8233 9 ай бұрын

@@SamsMotorsMy apologies, I forgot that you had, I was thinking that was the v2. There have been a couple of updates since and I don’t have to put the VIN in anywhere near as many times as previously. Apologies again for not doing enough research prior to commenting.

@SamsMotors 9 ай бұрын

Not at all, it'd be good to compare this iCarsoft again if it's been updated for sure.

@TheSOHARA1 4 ай бұрын

What would you recommend for P38.... the nanocom?

@SamsMotors 4 ай бұрын

Yes, there's not really another option that's as powerful for the P38.

@stop_lying_bro 10 ай бұрын

Don't know if i missed it or im not properly informed but is the GAP Tool not bi-directional? If so, it really is the perfect Tool and I'll put one on order now.

@SamsMotors 10 ай бұрын

It is bidirectional yes 👍

@stop_lying_bro 10 ай бұрын

@@SamsMotors perfect, thanks!

@davidforbes6250 10 ай бұрын

98 Disco 1 tdi, glad I don't need a diagnostic tool for every drive.

@andrewmitchell6351 10 ай бұрын

Indeed - seem to recall reading off an ABS problem with a paperclip and counting the blink codes. I now have an L320 2.7 which has a couple of annoying faults that I'm not able to fully diagnose with the iCarSoft fault code reader I have been lent, as it doesn't read the 6 digits, but only 4 .... think I'll take the plunge and give the Otofix a spin!

@SamsMotors 10 ай бұрын

300 Tdi? Just need to bring a few head gaskets instead 😅

@dkastra26 Күн бұрын

Im so confused. Had a cheaper Launch crp919x bt and i could do more things against my new launch x431 pro dyno 😢. Ok the dyno have 37+ Tools but the normal things are better with crp. And no coding possible with Range rovers? I have a evoque 2016

@Namibia_Diagnostics 10 ай бұрын

The Otofix D1 Lite has bidirectional functions, it just doesn't do coding and all that. Just test it

@swisscarmb 10 ай бұрын

Seems Otofix is a Autel copy. Great job. didn't know about Topdon.

@SamsMotors 10 ай бұрын

It’s actually owned by Autel, just a separate brand. Thanks for watching!

@swisscarmb 10 ай бұрын

@@SamsMotors i thought so, because the same icons. But definitely cheaper than the Maxisys. Anyway, your test of the three is a good base for somebody who want to buy one. thumps up 👍

@richardhunt1384 10 ай бұрын

Top Don is still cheaper than say a brand new Snap On diagnostic scanner, ours in the thousands and still uses a cable not Bluetooth dongle and still probably has the same functionality as the TD.

@SamsMotors 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, I'd say it blows most of the traditional pro tools out of the water in terms of value!

@mikea9521 7 ай бұрын

Topdon and launch are basically the same format, but topdon has many more features. Otofix is a Autel tool. . Otofix is awesome, and so is topdon. I own both and do full programming with topdon.

@dinosshed 9 ай бұрын

Wonder if these work with a td5

@SamsMotors 9 ай бұрын

Disco Td5? You’ll get some functionality but not a huge amount. Check the websites for full coverage

@user-ve2of5ie2m 10 ай бұрын

Hi Sam, I have recently changed the front air spring on my 2006 TD6 as it was perished. Air suspension is now working but still getting the air suspension fault on the dash! Code C1A20-64 has come up on my icarsoft v2. Any ideas please thanks!

@SamsMotors 10 ай бұрын

Hi, that fault code relates to the air tank filling too slowly / or not at all. Did you have this fault code before the strut replacement? If you did, I suspect the compressor is worn out from overworking due to the leaking strut. If not, I suspect you have a leak at the air connection to the new strut. It would be worth spraying some soapy water around to see if you can see any air escaping.

@user-ve2of5ie2m 10 ай бұрын

@@SamsMotors thanks! No had no fault before this. Okay thanks for the info! I was thinking do I need to have the air suspension recalibrated after the new bag? Thanks again

@SamsMotors 10 ай бұрын

@@user-ve2of5ie2m as long as you didn’t disturb the height sensor, it won’t need calibration 👍

@user-ve2of5ie2m 10 ай бұрын

@@SamsMotors well I did unplug it and move it about a bit at first as I thought initially that was the fault and not the bag! Thanks for help once again Sam!

@user-ve2of5ie2m 10 ай бұрын

So I think I will get a calibration done as my next step then!

@stuarth43 8 ай бұрын

thanks bought Topdon ebay Au 1000 , have a D4 SDV6 2015 and a TDV6 2010, have carsoft but it does not do much , brmmm brmmm

@eriksony6398 10 ай бұрын

The Launch elite Rand Rover scanner can do the same things.

@SamsMotors 10 ай бұрын

Rand Rover?

@noelcahill6707 10 ай бұрын

Iv a ranger rover sport im going moving it to coils

@musbaubabajide559 5 ай бұрын

How much is this

@robertbcope 10 ай бұрын

My gut says all of these systems are using some base, core system to start with; just different skins on it.

@SamsMotors 10 ай бұрын

You're correct in that they're all running Android, with a custom skin. However the the software "app" that is running within Android is where the differing functionality comes from.

@TP4MBH69 10 ай бұрын

Hi Sam, do you have any suggestions or link for a Fuel pump tank sender module for a Range Rover Vogue tdv8 4.4 diesel 2011 model ? SALLMAMH3BA353397 . I would appreciate it if you could direct me to an OEM version . Thanks Sam !