From 223 to 300BLK: Insane Dillon Conversion and Loading Setup

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Previously we showed how to set up the DA3000 with the CP2000 and convert 223/5.56 brass to 300 blackout. To load the new brass, we have the Dillon RL1100 set up to load 220 grain subsonic 300 blackout ammunition and some machine guns to test it with. This is going to be FUN!
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@reconrc1787 Жыл бұрын

Man I wish dillion hooked me up with equipment like that. Real world, the majority of us could never afford a setup like that, but I'd sure love to have multiple $1k+ machines and the automatic motors to drive them if I could ever make it happen. Very cool kit though, and I hope you enjoy.

@AutopilotAndChill Жыл бұрын

That is why they call him “The Ultimate Advertiser.” He doesn’t pay for any of this stuff and you never hear him speaking ill of any of his equipment.

@ouruiz Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I totally agree with you. Gavin never mentions the short comings of any of the machines, or what quirks would be helpful to improve the performance. A setup like this would be seen in a boutique ammo manufacturer, law enforcement agency, a shooting club, and maybe a person with a lot of time and money to reload and shoot. However, it's always cool to see what $9K+ of reloading equipment would look like in real life.

@Swissk31300BO 11 ай бұрын

I mean if u own 10 guns which is many for most serious gun owners, sell a few u don’t use. Money goes to funding one of these

@Esper320 4 ай бұрын

Speak for yourself

@JeffinTD Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome. I’ve found the Dillon primer system can malfunction, most often by having a primer not fully fall into the slide. This can cause the primer to spit out of the machine, and may distort the plastic lips on the bottom of the inner primer tube. Solution: Occasionally remove the inner tube and clean the inside. I use a .17 rod and a patch with alcohol. Also clean the bore in the primer slide with a Q tip. Finally, a 45-70 case or similar weight on top of the primer check rod is quite helpful. I’ve found some brands of primers leave more dust and residue than others. For me Winchester or CCI generally run perfect and the priming system doesn’t require cleaning prior to the whole machine needing routine cleaning/lube.

@SpartanONegative Жыл бұрын

Awesome Setup 🤠

@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor Жыл бұрын

After converting the brass wet tumble with stainless steel media and car wash with wax. Annealing after tumbling both dries the brass as well as anneals it. I also have to emphasize how important small bass dies are.

@ronmartblog Жыл бұрын

Sweet setup and those guns look like they are a hoot to shoot 🙌🏻

@Ultimatereloader Жыл бұрын

For sure!!!

@x-calibearusallc Жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatereloaderthe bonus of having the FFL07/SOT2. I have the first part and plan on the latter come June/July.

@clintonlightfoot3455 Жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatereloader what is the best dillion unit for doing 45lc

@kd6qaz Жыл бұрын

@@clintonlightfoot3455 IMHO Square Deal B

@knallis.hjemmelading Жыл бұрын

You have a great job

@Ultimatereloader Жыл бұрын

Yes for sure!

@kevinwood7358 Жыл бұрын

Great video Gavin. The speed of that case trimmer is amazing. Do you have more information about that trimmer?

@DF-DefendFREEDOM 4 ай бұрын

Tumbling in dry media stream sprayed slightly with rubbing alcohol with open lid to remove lanolin, then wet tumble with pins works well.

@vintagetintrader1062 3 ай бұрын

One year old video when commenting, I’m new to reloading, still collecting 223 brass for my Ruger 300 BO. But will be doing all this using a simple drill, a pipe cutter and my Lee 4 hole press. Being Australian, all I can have is bolt or lever action rifles. Haven’t found a 300BO I can afford yet in lever so going all manual in each reloading process is no issue. Planing Sierras 125 grain BO special bullets for main hunting and will try an all cast local coated 165 grain cast meant for 30-30 as my subsonic and main plinking round. Here, 300BO is extremely expensive compared to the USA as our previous local suppler shut up shop. Might see other cheap 30 jacketed 30 cal bullets for subsonic plinking out to 100 yards (our local range is only 100 metres anyway)

@dalehorkey4476 Жыл бұрын

That set up is awesome! You should do a giveaway, standing by to sign up.

@Tumm3n Жыл бұрын

I use laundry detergent for removing the lanolin when wet tumbling after case prep. Works like a charm 👍

@Ultimatereloader Жыл бұрын

Thanks! We will have to try that!

@christiansmith9414 Жыл бұрын

My Lyman Ideal seem less ideal now. Great video!!! LC308 to 6.5CM should be a great job for this setup

@Ultimatereloader Жыл бұрын

Each press has a place :) I’m liking the 308 to 6.5CM idea!

@thelittledetailscr7231 Жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatereloader or 308 to 8.6 blackout.

@tonyczuleger4591 Жыл бұрын

Faster then my RL550 for sure.

@firearmsfuelfabrication 10 ай бұрын

I have a similar case prep setup on my super 1050. Only problem I've ran into is on my rt1500 I get a ball of brass wool in the vacuum head

@scottcampbell9002 Жыл бұрын

Hey! I’m taking a marching course and was wondering if you had machining prints for a blueprinting jig or if you could point me in the right direction. Thanks!!

@robertwalker1849 Жыл бұрын

Would love that setup but my; .300 Blackout is a 5-shot bolt gun, Thinking of getting a Lyman Pro set of dies in .300 blackout to load on my Dillon 550 what are your thoughts on them? I am using Hornady dies at present and am not very impressed with them but it was the only diesel available, Great video Thank you.

@andrewmckinley6571 Жыл бұрын

Set up the Dillon trim system on my 550. It hurt at first, overall money well spent

@dirtleg13 Жыл бұрын

Hey Gavin love the channel. Especially glad you loaded all your videos to that other site. Sadly your videos won't play, for me at least, on that other sites app so I have to watch them here. Just a heads up so perhaps you can work with the other site to fix things. Thanks for all you do.

@xxUncleBuckxx Жыл бұрын

I'm just getting into reloading and I noticed you sprayed the cases with, I would assume Lanolin before loading them into the hopper to load the test rounds. Do you clean the case lube off the finished rounds before firing? I have been seeing a lot of talk on forums about resizing/decapping and case prepping rifle completely then doing a second tumble to clean off the case lube before the loading process. Is there a reason for that or is it just extra work.

@chuckbest5982 Жыл бұрын

How did you handle the case growth when the second resizing was done on the 1100 in station 2?

@monstermessgarage452 Жыл бұрын

I wish I needed that kind of capacity for my fantasy full auto guns I can’t afford one day maybe lol

@rodgerthackeray7978 Жыл бұрын

Looks awesome. Sadly, I will never be able to afford one.

@richardphelan8414 Жыл бұрын

if you stay with it ,you will wind up here it is very addictive and a hell of a lot of fun just expensive ,the only damper now is getting components mainly Primers

@stevenrogers4663 Жыл бұрын

Gavin, you did not mention accuracy and velocity of the loaded ammo? Looks like an awesome setup.

@DisgustedGenXr Жыл бұрын

8-900fps 6moa

@tartredarrow Жыл бұрын

Who gives a fuck? Its subsonic ammo. Effective range 100 yards.

@davylytle8669 Жыл бұрын

So to clarify. Your bullet feed issue is after it places the bullet and the tool head is raising the bullet is catching the bottom of the die? I load gallant coated 217 just fine with a bullet feeder but I had to make my own ramp out of metal wire. I have some Berrys but haven’t tried them. It works good but speed is the drawback. It can’t keep up. Maybe the pro version would do a better job.

@natejackson4791 Жыл бұрын

It's great to see the process but it isn't real for me the lay man with that set up. I would love to do this at home but it's going to take a few days to get that volume. Thanks Gavin

@danielsteffens9237 3 ай бұрын

What neck expanding die is being used? Thank you!

@tyler6147 Жыл бұрын

How did you check the case wall thickness? Or did you pick same head stamp brass? My first and only reloading accident was during a string of fire and I ended up with an out of battery detonation. It happened because the (new) neck wall was too thick and would not allow it to fully be in battery. That one round was just far enough out to keep the bolt from locking in.

@forestrebock3545 9 ай бұрын

Case gauge my dude

@DF-DefendFREEDOM 2 ай бұрын

Wish you had shown the cause of chamber jamb from converted cases and how to solve it by neck trimming to max .0135 neck wall thickness, considering the Dillon trimmer does not solve all the issues including the clogging of the trimmer head with brass and case mouth burrs which can cause jambs and bullet damage. Final resize with standard resize die seems to work well.

@jasonposten9481 Жыл бұрын

My birthday is next week and I wouldn’t say no if you sent me both those setups. 😬

@kimherrick9615 Жыл бұрын

Just a snarky reply to the snarky comments. Gavin did a vid called THE Progressive press shootout, watch it. You don't have to spend 3K on a auto drive 1050, to be honest it's not needed, to be sure with full auto it's great but there are a lot of options that are way less expensive. You should consider if your using less than 6000 rds per year, just buy factory ammo. However as you approach 12,000 rounds, yeah learn to reload, still a $200 turret press or a $600 progressive is the right course. Don't look at someone else that has made the commitment to change professions and be envious. Don't tell me John Force is spending to much money on his drag racing team, the man is a legend, plenty of other examples to choose from. always do the best you can with what you have. It's too easy to sit back and say woe is me. Don't spend the $15 on your next 5th, buy 2 boxes of .556 and get out there, be better than you are today. Otherwise you just sound like a Fudd, don't be a Fudd be better.

@DisgustedGenXr Жыл бұрын

I cut my once fired .223/5.56 with a $40 harbor freight chop saw via $20 ebay jig. Resize and decap with LEE .223 die. Neck down with .300BLK LEE die. Trim with LEE Quick trim case length dies, wet tumble and load. Cost you about $6000 ? $7000, $10,000? It costs me about $150. And when loading commences my brass is sized on step 1 before priming.

@Bodhi1satva Жыл бұрын

Now you’re talkin’! That’s the setup I want to see run! You don’t happen to have your own channel here?

@tgarrett1985 10 ай бұрын

I’m not sure if this is already been asked or where to find it, but have you had any issues with certain casings over others? You have a list of cases that work to convert in cases that don’t work? I’m getting ready to set up my automated 1050 as a case prep machine like what you have but I didn’t see anything listed in your video about cases to use or cases to avoid

@eagleviewhd 9 ай бұрын

There are some cases that will end up with too thick of a neck wall after forming. If you load a bullet in those cases, it will,often result in a deformed case. I was having trouble with reloaded cartridges getting stuck in the chamber of my AR-15 rifle. I then found out about this and did two things: I measure case neck thickness and turn down the necks on cases with neck thickness over .013, and I also use a full length gauge on every round to make sure they meet SAAMI Specification.

@blackhawk7r221 9 ай бұрын

I’ll add that it depends on which .223 ream was used on your particular rifle. Most AR chambers are pretty sloppy for reliable operation, but some have fairly tight tolerances for neck diameter and leade for precision shooting. Just do what most of us do. Separate brass brands, form your cartridges, measure neck diameter of your loaded rounds, take notes, and shoot. See how they run. Unless you have a machinist’s inside diameter gauge, you don’t know your chamber’s neck diameter. What I do is pull off my upper and drop in loaded rounds to see if they freely chamber completely, then pop them out with a cleaning rod. Find the one that is a bit snug and you’ll know your max neck diameter. Remember, the amount of taper crimp can changes the diameter.

@noretreat151 11 ай бұрын

I’m sure somewhere hidden amongst all that equipment there is some useful information….. but for fear of a collapse, I will forfeit the search.

@eddie10191 8 ай бұрын

This is fun to watch just not bright enough to buy this equipment. Getting a starter kit first.

@shanegadberry1037 Жыл бұрын

Can you take223 and turn it to 350 legend

@jonasbruzas2651 Жыл бұрын

hi mate Starline brass or Peterson bras beter for 308 cal?

@Ultimatereloader Жыл бұрын

Peterson for sure

@capricorn2816 Жыл бұрын

How about .308 to 44 auto mag??

@czgunner Жыл бұрын

That's a ton of money and work for 45 ballistics. It's fun to shoot suppressed, but I couldn't justify that kind of money for a range toy.

@handlebullshit Жыл бұрын

Do you ever run into too thick of a neck? I have to neckturn my converted .308>6.5c cases to not get issues feeding.

@Ultimatereloader Жыл бұрын

I have not had that issue yet!

@stevesimmonsdotorg Жыл бұрын

Lee crimp die fixes that, but may increase neck tension if the neck is too thick. On subs this shouldn’t cause pressure issues. On supers, I would be more concerned.

@gfal1704 Жыл бұрын

@Ultimatereloader @handlebullshit I had the same question. Thanks for posting and replying. I have had next thickness issues, but after seeing that you used the mandrel at the end of the conversion process it makes me think I caused issues during reloading since I trimmed and then sized with the full length die and expander ball. I'm going to give your method a shot. Thanks!!!

@Seven-ff8vr Жыл бұрын

i would like to see some long range subsonic 500+ yards accuracy load development preferred rifle builds.

@louiscapasso4452 Жыл бұрын

I don't know about getting subsonic ammo out to 500 yards. My 300 is sighted in for 110's and when I switch to subs it is a 12 inch drop.

@Seven-ff8vr Жыл бұрын

@@louiscapasso4452 I have a custom built 300BLK in a bolt action rifle and am very disappointed with the accuracy I have done extensive research and load development achieving 1moa at 100y but I have a 22lr easily 1/2 moa with subs at a 100 and under 1 moa at 300y. I cant achieve this with my 300blk. Maybe someone with more resources could. I would love to follow along if someone was up to the challenge.

@magua1368 9 ай бұрын

Buddy gifted to me a Savage Axis in 300BO, 16" HBAR. Dead air LTI can on her. It shoots lights out w Gorilla ammunitions 208 gr subs, (less than 1MOA w 9 power Barska scope) and I bought a couple hundred of the projectiles only to roll my own. I have since invested in an Oryx chassis for her and she and the gorillas are my new killin toy. Cannot go wrong with a butt ugly Savage, IMHO. YMMV, good luck!@@Seven-ff8vr

@tomjohnson6036 Жыл бұрын

So….if you can swage on the 1100….couldn’t you set that up to process the brass manually and then after the brass has been converted switch to reloading. For that matter, if your using civilian brass and don’t need to swage, couldn’t all of this be done on a 750 with some more time for set-up and conversion? Seriously not a sarcastic question. I don’t have a .300 but am seriously considering it. I have a pretty much unlimited supply of once fired civilian .223 brass. Finally, I’m on the verge of upgrading my Lee Loadmaster to a Dillon 750 and am thinking of adding the RT1500. Couldn’t I do all of this video with that since swaging isn’t an issue?

@stevesimmonsdotorg Жыл бұрын

I convert mil-surp 5.56 blanks to 300BO on an ancient RL500, then wash and anneal, then load using a different toolhead. All manual, but it works well and is fast enough for me. Primer pockets are handled with the Dillon Superswage. I also use a Lee factory crimp die as the last station. I did switch to a 223 small base sizing die on the loading head for the exact same reason. I suspect some of the military guns shooting the blanks had out of spec chambers. I check EVERY single round with a case gauge, perhaps 1 in 10k fails the check.

@anthonyrichard461 Жыл бұрын

What's the difference from a carbine vs a rifle or SBR?

@Ultimatereloader Жыл бұрын

Carbine: (rifle) 16+”, SBR = under 16”.

@anthonyrichard461 Жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatereloader I know this already but why is the M4 called a carbine and it has a 14.5 inch barrel? That would make the M4 a PISTOL or SBR in the real world but the military classifies it as a carbine which is what a short barrel AR should be. Semantics

@michaeldoe4805 Жыл бұрын

Excuse my ignorance but why not load 7.62x39 subsonic?

@Ultimatereloader Жыл бұрын

See our video on that!

@gpav1 Жыл бұрын

Whooooooooo

@linkbond08 Жыл бұрын

I guess if you have money to keep a machine gun around you have money to buy this setup.

@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor Жыл бұрын

You do save money. While I still hand load using my Lee Hand Press I also have a Dillon 1050. It makes quick work of loading ammo.

@linkbond08 Жыл бұрын

@@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor how long did it take to break even?

@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor Жыл бұрын

@Z-Link Corrupted considering that a buddy and I started when the caliber was SAAMI accepted it's not fair to say because we got the Dillon 1050 because swaging military brass using a manual swager was too time consuming. I think it took us a week to break even but that's when Federal and Remington was trying to get us to agree to making brass for them.

@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor Жыл бұрын

@Z-Link Corrupted the best thing about the 1050 is the primer swaging ability. If you don't need that I would recommend 650 or whatever their newer version that replaced the 650 is. Considering the cost of that one you should be able to make the difference within a few thousand rounds.

@linkbond08 Жыл бұрын

@@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor I got the Lee classic loader broke even on 300 rounds of 30-06. The only thing I've shot over 1k rounds is my m&p357sig, broke even on the benchless hand press, and dies in the first 400rds making brass from 40sw cases. I'm not a high volume shooter, I don't shoot just to say I shot, Ever trigger pull has a purpose be it killing game, sighting in, validating trajectories, hell I even made a dope card for my 357sig 147gr v-crown handloads coming out at 1240+-10fps out to 200yds. Pull trigger, collect data, pull trigger, validate data, pull trigger, bring food home.

@thelittledetailscr7231 Жыл бұрын

How are you able to have machine guns?

@Ultimatereloader Жыл бұрын

We are an FFL07 + Class 2 SOT. See commercial.ultimatereloader.com

@PS-rr2jt Жыл бұрын

Anybody can have a machine gun…as long as you find one for sale made before 1986, you submit lots of paperwork and finger prints, you aren’t a prohibited possessor and wait for the ATF to approve you. That and a boat load of money because pre-ban machine guns are way $$$$$$.

@thelittledetailscr7231 Жыл бұрын

@P S I am aware, but these are brand new guns. I didn't know he has his sot 07.

@kuronyan3006Ackley Жыл бұрын

🤩👍‼️

@russellgilmore9796 Жыл бұрын

Nice ! But like others say, if you have the bucks to afford this equipment, why fool with reloading and just buy bulk. I have the ol Lee single stage press , I am retired and do just fine 1 at a time😂

@kurthunter2427 Жыл бұрын

I thought full auto was illegal in WA state? Only SBRs and suppressors are the only legal NFA items

@jonathanlogan6647 Жыл бұрын

He has an FFL with SOT to serve LEO needs so he's not restricted to the same laws we are.

@Bodhi1satva Жыл бұрын

Nothings truly illegal in the USA if you have enough money!

@amsb4dafunk558 Жыл бұрын

That conversion setup Makes Me look like a caveman, cutting down my brass with a Harbor Freight mini cutoff saw. 300 Black is no damn bueno It Can be fired in a 556 I Went with the Wilson 7.62X40WT.

@TeensierPython Жыл бұрын

Damn. I need your money. I wanted to build a set up to cut down brass. Maybe just a simple cutter to cut them the same every time.

@HuskyKMA Жыл бұрын

This stuff is all given to him in exchange for saying nice things about it.

@jcoats150 Жыл бұрын

Send this to the senators: Our right to bear arms is spelled out in the Second Ammendment. Please support our right to bear arms, and refrain from supporting restrictions associated with common practice.

@joquin4618 Жыл бұрын

Nice… but at this point, it’s a rich man’s playground 😅

@promisedlandguns Жыл бұрын

The short handguard on that 16" gun is full of the gays.

@jeremiahhansen2047 Жыл бұрын

Cool setup, even though it is out of reach and unrealistic for the majority of people... Nice to see what the 1%'er's can have and afford to feed in the current climate of the industry.. LOL I would shudder to think of the receipt for the primers alone for a full day of loading on one of these... Still Cool to see though!!!!

@tgarrett1985 10 ай бұрын

That’s where the major disconnect happens in our world. Gavin technically isn’t even in the 1% if you do your research on what that 1% really is.

@ImNoBSING Жыл бұрын

My 223 identifies as 300blk. Problem solved.

@grantensrud9185 Жыл бұрын

Gavin love the show but you have to realize there may be those that are not gun friendly watching. None gun friendly watching have no idea the licensing and NFA regulations involved in production and testing of automatic weapons. Most of these people either have no idea or feed off those who don't the difference between full auto and simi automatic. This video without good explanation only adds to the push to ban what the anti gunners have deemed assault weapons. Please either add explanation or take it down. I know the last thing you intend on doing is to give the anti gunners momentum.

@BcFuTw9jt Жыл бұрын

Wow you must be so much fun to be around

@grantensrud9185 Жыл бұрын

@@BcFuTw9jt I actually don't find it fun to watch the things I love regulated out of existence. The powers that be are proficient at using the ignorant as tools and regulation as power you know it happens if not not open your eyes and quit being ignorant yourself.

@MichaelWilliams-te5dw Жыл бұрын

I'd recommend getting fw arms primer popper die and a fw arms dynamic hold down die for swaging and I dmd you on instagram fyi

@mustanggreg66 Жыл бұрын

I second that. FW Arms is the only way to go for processing and loading on an automated press. They cut down my sucked in primer issues and neck dings to nearly non-existent.