NEW! Lyman Case Trim Express: Unboxing, Overview, Brass Trimming
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When I saw the Lyman Case Trim Express at the 2019 SHOT Show, I knew I needed to show this new tool on Ultimate Reloader! Well now is the time to get “up close and personal” with this new case trimmer! I’ve been surprised at how much interest there is in this tool, and I’m happy to publish the first full story showing everyone how it works.
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@lymanproductsanalytics8467 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Gavin- Liz from Lyman Products here. You can also mount the trimmer perpendicular to the front of your bench so you are pushing down to trim each case instead of sideways for an even more comfortable motion. This was suggested by another reloader at SHOT Show.
@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome- will try that- good to hear from you Liz!
@gerrymatheson4020 3 жыл бұрын
Where do the shavings all end up if oriented that way?
@rjinnh3933 2 жыл бұрын
@@gerrymatheson4020 I think in your lap. But a short plastic bowl, with a hole centered in its bottom, that fits over the collar's threaded bace should minimize the mess. Think of a Brass Confetti Catching Saucer. HaHa I'd put a Long Think into this before trying it out.......
@walleyewilly8085 2 жыл бұрын
Where is this trimmer made? Thanks.
@jameslargen284 4 ай бұрын
@@walleyewilly8085😂 you already know...
@BoggWeasel 4 жыл бұрын
After reading a lot of the comments, strikes me that there are two basic kinds of reloaders. Those who are satisfied with what they do and those that are unsatisfied with everything anybody else does.
@Ultimatereloader 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, well said :) Welcome to my world...
@bradprather6749 3 жыл бұрын
You're completely right, great reply. I bought the unit on UR's recommendation so I could save my hands from hurting, and it works well.
@evanwindom3265 2 жыл бұрын
Mic drop. Well put.
@slackleashdogtraining3598 Жыл бұрын
And those like me; who relentlessly are refining what I do to get even better results.
@gregtringas5131 Жыл бұрын
@@slackleashdogtraining3598 The pursuit of better is a lot of what craftsmanship is about..but beware...sometimes the enemy of good is better. I am a master stringed instrument craftsman and only have found this out the hard way when I go that one bridge too far and kill a couple of hours worth of work.
@MikeMcCasland27 5 жыл бұрын
A quick comment to the folks talking about the varying trim lengths; those aren't a result of this case trimmer being "inaccurate". Any case trimmer that uses the case shoulder to index (such as the Giraud, WFT, Frankford Arsenal, Lyman etc.) will only cut as accurately as your shoulder bump. You'll notice in the video he's getting varying trim lengths on the .308 batches; this is most likely a result of him using mixed headstamp brass, unannealed brass that has a mixed number of firings; or his sizing die is setup to 'over bump' the shoulder beyond what is required, and you're seeing the varying springback in the brass. Regardless, it's not an issue with the trimmer. The adjustment on where the trimmer indexes never changes/moves. You can think of any 'shoulder indexing' case trimmer as effectively the same thing as a trimming headspace comparator. Any deviation in the brass is going to show up in your trim lenghts. As a result, to get an accurate trim (within .001 across ~100 cases), the rest of your process needs to be wire tight (same headstamp, annealing each firing, dies setup properly). That said, having a few thousandths (.001-.005) difference in brass length is not going to affect your groups at all, at any range, or any discipline.
@Sshooter444 5 жыл бұрын
The Anal-Squad likes perfection!
@lanceschul 5 жыл бұрын
I agree about the shoulder variances. That’s why I prefer an LE Wilson for any precision work.
@ab0ad 5 жыл бұрын
SuperDutyTX: I agree. I will take a " SHOULDER INDEXED TRIMMED case " over an "overall case trimmed case " ANY DAY. Reason why. Your neck length WILL be more consistent with a "shoulder indexed". Funny how some will worry about the overall case length, and then be INCONSISTENT in their "neck chamfer depth", thus changing neck length. BEST way for the "Anal-Squad" would be a shoulder with an cutter that a least cuts the chamfer too at the same time it trims. If some one can show me different I am willing to learn.
@groovymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly...
@docholliday3273 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see somebody point this out!!!!
@ronibaloni4072 4 жыл бұрын
I love how the printing on Lyman boxes give me the impression that I am about to open a new-old-stock that has been hermetically sealed since it was made new in the 1970's.
@MarnieTMakwa Жыл бұрын
Being new to reloading I've been doing a ton of research and love your videos and information. This information was extremely helpful and finalized my choice to by this trimmer. I am impressed. The ease of use and consistency once you have it "dialed" in to what you want - best purchase I've made! Saves a ton of time and my bum shoulder! Thank you.
@martincyr1370 5 жыл бұрын
I want this trimmer! Thanks for the review Gavin 👍🇨🇦
@bowhuntingaficionado4088 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your excellent video. It greatly helped me in my purchasing decision. I bought me one and I am very happy with it so far. Greetings from Germany
@15TNar 5 жыл бұрын
Cool video, thanks for sharing as that makes life easier for any volume shooter
@WhiskyTangoFoxtrot33 5 жыл бұрын
YES!!!! I've been waiting and waiting for this.
@l.p.5259 5 жыл бұрын
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot33 check out a gracey or a giruard trimmer before this thing !
@varanidguy 5 жыл бұрын
This reminds me a lot of the trimmer built into the Frankford Arsenal case prep center.
@williebulletman5217 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gavin and early Merry Christmas
@bradprather6749 3 жыл бұрын
I've got this trimmer. Nice machine and easy set up and use.
@a.k.4363 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@kennethtephabock5634 2 жыл бұрын
Great review awesome guy
@kre4tur3 4 жыл бұрын
Only 2 things i wish lyman would change about the unit. Add detents to the adjustment wheel so it locks and is adjustable in half thousandths for the detents, and offer an optional 3-way cutter head like the RCBS 3-way cutter
@nicholas1740 5 жыл бұрын
Frankford arsenal does this same operation and more. These type machines work off referencing the shoulder of the case. Therefore if you're very consistent when you resize, you'll get consistent overall length when you trim.
@EdSigman 4 жыл бұрын
This is a very good presentation as are all of your discussions that you provide to us. I would like to suggest that when you evaluate a (new product) that a comparison be made to another product of the same function in order to benchmark the results of the new product. Of all your products, you may have the opinion of a "favorite" and why for comparison to the new product evaluations.
@michaelt.9372 9 ай бұрын
I cannot for the life of me get consistent trims. Twisting, pushing lightly, pushing hard, everything. Nothing would get me consistent trims. Switched to the RT1500 and it worked great. The huge price difference sucks but so much more consistent and I’m very happy.
@dwaynewood8156 2 жыл бұрын
They index off the shoulder so if you have any variations in your bump/sizing process it will show up when you trim
@davep1808 4 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these and am glad i did. I like to resize my brass first before i trim them though.
@gerrymatheson4020 3 жыл бұрын
?? Of course...that's the correct way to do it...and I believe that is what he was demonstrating...
@gerrymatheson4020 3 жыл бұрын
Ps...I love mine... The case trim Xpress combined with the case prep Xpress make a great pair!
@larrydesantis9800 2 жыл бұрын
Its really all about what you're welling to pay. The Lyman does an adequate job of trimming for $150, But the Giraud and Henderson trimers are the ultimate. They deburr and champher at the same time. Henderson $778 and the Giraud around $495. But by the time you add cutters and holders/collets , they even out around $900.for say four different calibers. But they are sweet
@FullSendPrecision 5 жыл бұрын
I've always purchased 3 way trimmers because they're worth the money to me. But I've seen some of these universal type trimmers be VERY hard to get repeatable and consistent results from. This one looks like a winner! - But if you only shoot a few calibers, the Giraud Tri Way Trimmer is a REAL winner of a tool at 105 bucks or so
@xc75ranger 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! You "get's what you pay for". The only downside, for the Giraud gets a little expensive for each caliber. I started using the Hornady (hand) case trimmer, then bought Lee individual trimmers, and also tried the Lyman EZ Trim set trimmers. Then tried the WFT's in 308 and 223, which weren't too bad, but they didn't chamfer and deburr. I finally spent the money and purchased the Giraud power case trimmer, in 2 calibers. Never been happier, I also purchased a Geraud Tri Way Trimmer in 308, for times when I didn't want to reset the power trimmer from 223 to 308. I bought the Lyman on sale from Midway for $114, for the other misc. calibers I load, on a not too regular basis.
@jassonco 5 жыл бұрын
If I didn't already have the Frankford Arsenal Platinum, this would've already been in transit and ready for my bench!
@jassonco 5 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that it has integrated speed control.
@4499duke 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reviews on this and other equipment. I think I heard you say to trim then rotate the brass 180 degrees and trim again to make sure it's square. If the first trim isn't square, rotating the brass 180 and trimming again will not make it square, it will make the next shaped like a tubular spearhead. Sloped so slightly you can't see it, bu tit will not be square. If the machine doesn't trim square on the initial insertion, it is defective
@rjinnh3933 2 жыл бұрын
The 180deg rotation gives you a second chance at proper shell case alignment relative to the cutting head. Same when precision seating bullets. Your comment is pertinent if we assume perfect case alignment, which isn't possible given the vendor supplied case alignment colletts. A 180deg twist is a minor addition to the overall case prep process, as it is with precision bullit seating, both of which are considered, 'Good Reloading Practices'......
@jcrows6627 5 жыл бұрын
Also, I called Lyman on getting a few extra springs as I see the weak spot on this tool.
@o2wow 5 жыл бұрын
Suggest you try a Forster drill press trimmer with a three way cutter, it trims, chamfers and deburrs in one operation.
@RogueBlackheart 4 жыл бұрын
This is what I was leaning towards, but I cant find a three way cutter in .25 caliber, any ideas?
@redhonda3771 4 жыл бұрын
So does the Giraud Tri Way Trimmer and is faster then using a drill press.
@lancevaughn5337 5 жыл бұрын
This piece of kit looks promising. Thanks for reviewing. REALLY looking forward to single stage video you have coming out. Please tell me it’s gonna be this month! Take care...
@steverowe2943 5 жыл бұрын
If I did not already have several WFTs and the Girard trimmer, I would opt for this as it seems to be a good value. I would probably mount this on a block of wood to get it to sit higher for comfort as having my hands in a tray full of brass shavings is not comfortable. I suggest using PUG17 (or similar) gloves to give a better grip on the base and protect hands. As a timesaver, I suggest twisting the brass while in contact with the cutter to make it square in lieu of pulling it out turning and re-inserting.
@TargetTime 5 жыл бұрын
Why over the giraud? I don't have the motor unit but the triway.. But both have trim, chamfer, and deburing. After using this you'd still have to do 2 more passes on a separate device
@gerrymatheson4020 3 жыл бұрын
I have no issues holding onto them, even with a little Unique lube left on them or my fingers from resizing. Because it's spring loaded you control the pressure and can ease it into the cutter. I mostly just push on the base with my thumb and don't even really "hold on to" the case head... I agree with you about truing up the trim by turning the case...kind of. I just ease up the pressure, turn it a bit, press it again, repeat a couple times til nothing touches the cutter...
@bluescatreimer 4 жыл бұрын
I used mine for the first time yesterday for 30-06 brass. I couldn't believe how easy it was to adjust and use. Now I don't dread trimming rifle brass. Now they need to come up with some kind of adapter for straight walled brass.
@andicerocks 3 жыл бұрын
The only way I see a straight case being trimmed in such a way would be with a bearing perfectly sized to the inner casing that free floats as you insert the case to be trimmed. Maybe just a blank or slug would work as well with the outer edge slotted so it could cut the case only after being properly resized. Just a thought.
@zippoflint8688 2 жыл бұрын
Been watching your videos and just came across this,,,,,!!!!,,,,really enjoy watching yer tubes,,,,,!!!! I have been using the Possum Hollow trimmers for years and they trim off the shoulders,,,,,!!!! Just a heads up, all cases should be run though your full length die first before you trim,,,,!!!!! I notice on your 223s some had primers and some did not,,,,,!!!! Keep up the good work,,,,,,
@tr-zz8fz 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it looks good but you still have to debur and chamfer and from what i see it will only do bottle neck cases so i will stay with my old Hornady trimer and power drill
@ChristopherKnN 5 жыл бұрын
Since using the RCBS Trim Pro 3 way cutter, I just can't go back to a standard trim head. I do like the quick and easy method this has. But you still have to do the chamfer and debur work instead of all in one cutting with the 3 way head
@curtsantner6023 2 жыл бұрын
I have been using the Lee case trimmer that I need to attach to a power drill and after about fifty pieces, my fingers are sore. I hate case trimming but this looks like an easy way to accomplish this task.
@TheExplosiveGuy 9 ай бұрын
I just ordered one these after trimming 1500 rounds of .223 with the same 3-jaw Lee trimmer, it took me the better part of 12 hours to get through them all. My fingers felt like they were about to fall off lol. It gives really accurate and consistent results but the wear and tear to your digits is just plain old unacceptable. It's great for low-volume high-accuracy reloading but when you get into the hundreds or especially thousands of rounds, no thank you...
@jw3256 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Gavin thanks for the review, However, how does the Lyman compare to your earlier reviews of the L.E. Wilson case trimmer with the micrometer and slow speed drill attachment you reviewed. BTW I always enjoy your video however I get confused as which you recommend since you seem to review something new every week. Therefore which I would buy is always a toss-up when comparing similar tools with all the reviews you have published. In addition, I will be waiting to hear your final recommendation for Single Stage press reviews you have mentioned in a shoot out.
@BobbyOfEarth 3 жыл бұрын
After being fired, the shoulders need to be bumped back, so, one should always expect non-uniform case lengths when trimming cases that have not already been resized to SAAMI specs.
@garrytalley8009 5 жыл бұрын
Sizing on the shoulder does create inconsistent length unless they are all new same lot or manufacturer or been shot out of the same rifle. If they are not all the same if you crimp the crimp could vary. Looks like it would be fast way to do bullets for the same rifle under those circumstances. Personally I do one at a time with inexpensive Lee Trimmer by hand. Length is always the same. Easy enough to do just watching television. I use a light crimp on all my rounds and I know they are the same length with the Lee Trimmer. If one is going to trim off the shoulder and only have one caliber there are better options. I do own an older Lyman Power Trimmer that just sits because it doesn't even square the cut. It's alignment is off. It does look like this new one would be squared but it most likely costs more than it's worth. A Lil Crow caliber specific would be a better way to go if one was only doing one to a few calibers. Lyman makes some good stuff, but they make their share of not so good stuff too.
@godswatcher Жыл бұрын
Seems like fairly accurate machine The problem is after you trim them all the length you have to take time to debut the inside and the outside of the case mouth and neck. That takes a lot of extra time. I use RCBS trimmer with a 3 way cutter system after the case trim the length is automatically Debured on the inside and the outside.
@100reality2 Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking the same thing.i have a Lee 3 way trimmer I think I'll just stick with it because as you say using this machine you are just adding another process.
@trigerfingers1911 5 жыл бұрын
Can you add a picture of the back of the bushing set so we can see which ones it comes with please?
@mtnshooter2487 3 жыл бұрын
Well ok then Bogg, I've had mine for about a year. I like the fact I dont have to hook up the drill to my 'ol bannaza case lathe when I want to trim. The fittings are easyer then the allen wrench s to set up the machine. Still have to champer inside and out side . I wish the machine had more functions like the rcbs, lyman, frankford, ect work stations. Trim time is less then my old machine. I size my cases before I trim anyway , so nothing new there. in all, I like the maching for the price.
@emarquis87 5 жыл бұрын
eh looks decent for high volume reloading and convenient may buy if i get into burning cartridges for an ar15 etc. but still cant beat the wilson trimmer for precision
@spencerstrickland 5 жыл бұрын
This is ok, but the Giraud is the end all. They make one for $100 that goes on a hand drill that trims, deburs and chamfers at the same time. Each case is exactly the same. Get one of those and you’ll never look back. If I was wanting to stay with something like this, I would get the Franklin Armory trimmer that has 3 other operations on it (which I do have, but the giraud is still the way to go)
@soilrulz13 5 жыл бұрын
Only negative with the giraud is the tri way is only available in 4 calibers. Major ones. Built a 6.5 grendel so I was “forced” to buy the bench top powered version. Lol
@mattlord2906 5 жыл бұрын
@@soilrulz13 I didn't even know that brand
@musicman1eanda 4 жыл бұрын
How do you adjust the giraud? Like if after one pass through your brass is still off from where you want them, can you adjust it?
@xc75ranger 3 жыл бұрын
@@musicman1eanda You can adjust it, BUT, once you set it up, there is no need for adjustments, unless you change calibers. here's the link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rt2niM1zqZ62Y2w.html
@mattlord2906 5 жыл бұрын
I am kind of glad I didn't go with the Dillon mounted case trimmer. I guess it would be different if I had 10,000 cases of 308
@dgunnut6550 5 жыл бұрын
If it could do straight walled cases as well I would already have one on the way. You would think they could develop a bushing to datum off a rimmed straight walled cartridge.
@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting- I'd have to think about that! :)
@davecollins2097 5 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering that the variable length such as Super Duty is describing, may create an issue with crimping, .005 is a lot, could require sorting cases and crimp adjustments to make it consistent, for those who have a need to do it. Setting the crimp on a short case could cause issues on the long ones. Something to consider at least.
@dieseldog6824 5 жыл бұрын
He was .007" difference in 3 cases .... terrible imo
@bliksemdonder5624 4 жыл бұрын
Use a collet crimp and absolute case length no longer matters.
@GunnerMan1812 3 жыл бұрын
have you created a trimmer comparison lineup? or have you considered doing one?
@waynelane7499 5 жыл бұрын
I think I will stick to my TRIM-IT II ..
@andrewhallard537 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do this on a mill? Set up a jig and hold 10 cases at a time? Idk of it would be faster
@k.w5804 5 жыл бұрын
How come Gavin hasn't do a video on Giraud power trimmer? He's got to have one!
@philthy8150 4 жыл бұрын
Love mine
@JavierMoncadaIrias 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most important features of a case trimer is its ability to be consistent. You did never touched on that and based on the measures you took in the video, I don't think I would want to spend my money on it. So I will investigate it a bit more.
@frankjaegar1805 3 жыл бұрын
Only thing trimmed here is that majestic hair cut that's never changed 👌👌
@sparlin88 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos . Can you tell me where to purchase the Press mounting tracks you use on your counter top ?
@kevinjoseph5114 4 жыл бұрын
What about chamfer and deburing?
@joshhuttunen8821 5 жыл бұрын
Wonder if a 3 way cut head will fit in it
@jamesdawson4573 4 жыл бұрын
Will this case trimmer trim 45-70 cases as the standard lyman case trimmer, you have to buy a 45 pilot. thank you
@drfroglegs 5 жыл бұрын
I see it doesn't chamfer/debuff like a Giraud. Honestly, I prefer not to chamfer/deburr on the trimmer. I've noticed when I wet tumble after I chamfer/deburr (when I use my giruad) it files down the sharp edge and changes the OAL of the case. I prefer a flat cut, wet tumble, then chamfer after the cases dry (no need to deburr if you wet tumble). Looks like an awesome product!
@drfroglegs 5 жыл бұрын
FYI, to get around the issue with the Giraud I can only trim the cases after I have wet tumbled them.
@k.w5804 5 жыл бұрын
@@drfroglegs You can adjust the amount of deburring and chamferring right? My 223 cutter came installed and set with very aggressive chamferring. It goes so deep and case neck could almost cut my finger. I adjusted the cutter angle a little bit to get it to deburr and chamfer the way I wanted.
@drfroglegs 5 жыл бұрын
@@k.w5804 the cutter is in a V shape. You can adjust it so there is less of an angle on the chamfer, but doing so will add more of an angle on the deburr (and visa versa). To my knowledge there is no way to cut without a chamfer and deburr due to the V shape of the cutter.
@k.w5804 5 жыл бұрын
@@drfroglegs True it's always less of one and more of the other. I haven't used Giraud for a long time. I have actually grown to like my Dillon rt1500 and its squre cut, which was what I disliked in the first place to get the Giraud lol. I use M die to just touch the case neck then tumble and load away. If I feel fancy, I will use hand tool to debur and chamfer. For both 223 and 308, I couldn't tell any difference in accuracy be it trimmed by Giraud or Dillon. They are all sub-moa ammo if I do my part.
@jasonb4350 4 жыл бұрын
You trimmed 223 that was not sized and I believe you had a mix of 308 , this explains the extreme range of measurements. If you had fully resized brass your measurements would be much closer and a better example for the people watching.
@ThomasShue 3 жыл бұрын
This is a lot of trimmer for the money, but the QC is typical made in China stuff. I bought some CTS made in the USA trimmers that work exactly like this, but it’s machined perfectly and the tolerances are perfect No need to rotate the case to ensure a square cut on the trimmer. The CTSTrimmer doesn’t come with bushings so you need a cutter bet caliber, but the investment is way worth it. Use a Cordless drill or mount the cutters to a motor and your in business. Also the CTS trimmer can be ordered with exact case head dimension based on your fired cases it’s an amazing setup with the CTS I wish LYMAN did a better QC of these to insure the connection to the cutter and the motor run out was Zero and they used a better motor/ gearing setup as it’s noisy
@kibbeystovall7546 5 жыл бұрын
The physics of a chambered cartridge are such that the shoulder (for rimless cartridges) is what is limiting how far the case can go into the chamber, and thus the length of the neck from that shoulder forward would also be consistently in the same place in the throat. Recall that we trim cases because we don't want them so far forward they begin to touch the inner diameter of the throat and thus won't be able to expand and release the bullet at safer lower pressures. So trimming the neck length rather than the overall length should always keep you on the safe side of things. But our host was trimming .223 brass which had not been-resized (see the cases with the spent primers in them?). Doesn't trimming the cases BEFORE a full length resizing run the risk of extending the neck again beyond where the cut length was?
@utahprepper8925 4 жыл бұрын
You said what I was going to say. I thought you always trim AFTER sizing for that very reason.
@gerrymatheson4020 3 жыл бұрын
@@utahprepper8925 yes, always resize first, then trim. I didn't notice the .223 weren't resized. He said his tub of .308 was labeled "sized...needs trimmed"... but I'm skeptical cuz the shoulders didn't seem consistent at all, resulting in the length variations...
@brettinnj 5 жыл бұрын
It was looking good until the plus or minus .005" part. I guess it's good for plinking ammo. I'll stick to my Wilson trimmer and cordless driver. That is dead on.
@SopwithAviator 4 жыл бұрын
I am guessing the way to get the most accurate total overall dimension would be to full length resize the cases first?
@gerrymatheson4020 3 жыл бұрын
You always resize first before you trim. Especially important when the bushing is measuring off the shoulder...
@ryc3rz 5 жыл бұрын
Dissapointed. I haven't heard of this before and I was hoping it would be an alternative to a dillon press mounted trimmer. Maybe someone will make adapters later on to mount it onto Dillon X650?
@alzathoth Жыл бұрын
IMO they should have color coded the bushings to different calibers. looks like a great tool tho.
@robertcowan8211 3 жыл бұрын
so are they all the same length
@freedomisgolf5816 3 жыл бұрын
How do I stop adjustment dial from moving while trimming
@dbelex 5 жыл бұрын
Much easier to set up than the Frankford.
@lerb33 2 жыл бұрын
After trimming, should I chamfer / deburr ?
@jimreynolds8284 3 жыл бұрын
But will it do all calibers
@q-man762 3 жыл бұрын
It only trims to length but no chamfering the mouth so 2 more steps required?
@harveygussow7913 5 жыл бұрын
It has been said that “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.” but a new phrase for what you just did for me is “ The road to independence of independence of designis paved with Patent Permits.”
@spaghettibender7607 2 жыл бұрын
I forgot to put the spring in, and its A LOT easier, and you can rotate it too. Try it, and let me know how you liked it.
@jcrows6627 5 жыл бұрын
You have to run the trimmer at max speed or the cutter will catch the case and twist it out of your grip!! I have one that's how I know!!
@gerrymatheson4020 3 жыл бұрын
Not true...I run mine at about 7 or 7.5...it seems smoother and quieter at about that speed...I don't like full speed on mine...
@edtrumble7336 8 ай бұрын
Do you still have to clean the case mouth after the trim?
@Prometheuss.cannabis.corner 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't look to accurate, my old hornady trimer is within 1 thousands. Would you trustit for long range handloads?
@ronl384 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could ditch the spring- and insert a washer in its place same thickness as the spring when compressed??
@Jiminico 3 жыл бұрын
I ditched the spring altogether soon after starting a big batch of 223. No washer or anything. Ran fine, actually better, easier and faster. I got sick of fighting the increasing tension as the case was getting closer to indexing on the shoulder. Unless I jammed it in there with force every time I wouldn’t get consistent trim length from shoulder to mouth. Sometimes I over did it and made some lines around the datum line because it’s difficult to get a good feel when you have the right amount of pressure. And by having to press harder it’s easier to get uneven cuts because of the inherent slop in the unit. No spring and now consistent and more even cuts. Just pay attention to push it in straight in line every time. I wear a thin rubber coated work glove and just jam it home and it goes fast.
@timfarley6493 2 жыл бұрын
Does the Lyman trimmer chamfer and deburr the case mouth???
@mattlord2906 3 жыл бұрын
Is it still holding up?
@repairfreak 3 жыл бұрын
I want a machine that trims length from same reference point, but also inside and outside chamfers at same time, as well as ability for straight wall pistol cases, and with many popular caliber holders available. Anything like this available for $200 or less? Thanks
@raynovanderwalt Жыл бұрын
Does the kit also chamfer and deburr the brass?
@soilrulz13 5 жыл бұрын
Still have to chamfer and debur. You really ought to showcase the giraud power trimmer. Nothing compares to it in both quality and speed.
@FullSendPrecision 5 жыл бұрын
I use Giraud 3 way trimmers. I set them up and leave them. I use them in a slow speed drill press in the garage. Cheap enough and works great.
@ernestoluzan 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve never used the Giraud, but my Dillon RT1500 is no slouch. Trims thousand cases at a time. With .001-.002 variance. I’d say that’s legit AF
@soilrulz13 5 жыл бұрын
ernestoluzan yet you still have to chamfer and debur after that.
@ernestoluzan 5 жыл бұрын
soilrulz13 haven’t had to do it once so far. I’ve loaded thousands of .223 and 300 so far. Not one projectile has been ruined. The RT1500 cutter is really that good.
@titiparisien7485 5 жыл бұрын
Does it champfer the cases?
@bryansandoval3498 2 жыл бұрын
Can you trim 5.7x28 cartridge cases with this?
@heeebeeegeeebeee 2 жыл бұрын
Does it chamfer and debur?
@TheJosebd 2 жыл бұрын
Do you still have to chamfer inside and outside?
@Mr1bigsexy 3 жыл бұрын
Do you need this tool for 45 acp?
@tdoc2651 5 жыл бұрын
Does 300blk leave enough of the case sticking out to keep a good hold on it?
@gerrymatheson4020 3 жыл бұрын
I've been doing a bunch of .300blk trimmed to ~1.364 and having no issues holding onto them...
@Bigizzman01 2 жыл бұрын
Daft question will it trim straight wall cases such as 45-70 or 45lc?
@brianschmunk9490 2 жыл бұрын
does lymad make a neck turner or who does
@shooterreadyschannel9254 Жыл бұрын
Would this work for trimming 5.7x28?
@TNDOGGY 2 жыл бұрын
Noob reloader here: How often should you trim cases? Say you get factory ammo, fire it, clean, size/deprime, prime charge load again. Should you trim each time or every so many reloads?
@robertstallard7836 Жыл бұрын
A reloading manual will show you the maximum length a case should be. They all stretch a bit when fired. If they're too long you may have feed problems etc.
@yukoncornelius9627 2 жыл бұрын
Holy cow can more people whine. The guy did a good job. Everyone wants a $150 trimmer to do a $500 job. Get over it, it works very well for what it is. Or go spend a $110 on a Hornady and crank your little heart out..... As long as you have their shell holders. Smile it's easier to make light of things than complain.
@kdglock4491 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed the primers were still intact. How did you know the true size if you didnt resize first?
@davep1808 4 жыл бұрын
Good catch. I saw that one too !
@gerrymatheson4020 3 жыл бұрын
I thought he said they were resized...he read it off the box of .308... so apparently resized and reprimed...
@superiornoisereduction1211 4 жыл бұрын
DO NOT PROMOTE THIS PRODUCT! Gavin, I love the channel and I've made several purchases based on your reviews, this one however was a big mistake. I just got finished trimming 1,500 5.56 cases, during the process the case trim length adjustment backed off without me realizing it since there is no set screw on the adjustment. This means I just trimmed 1,500 cases that started at 1.750" and are now at 1.730" with varying lengths in between rendering them useless.
@gerrymatheson4020 3 жыл бұрын
If your shoulder position varied at all that will effect your overall length, since it indexes off the shoulder...
@superiornoisereduction1211 3 жыл бұрын
Gerry Matheson Agreed, but I also marked to cutting head adjustment with a sharpie, sure enough, about 15 cuts in it moved.
@bradprather6749 3 жыл бұрын
Once it's set, I check every so often. Great unit.
@johningersoll3931 3 жыл бұрын
If we are being honest, regardless of whether you use a power trimmer of any type, or a hand crank trimmer, it is a good practice to check case length every 10 cases or so to make sure nothing is moving. If you just set it and forget it and run 1,500 cases, a lot of them cut short, then you need to rethink your strategy.
@superiornoisereduction1211 3 жыл бұрын
@@johningersoll3931 I agree, you shouldn’t just assume that it’s trimming to the same length every time but I’m talking every 10 cases the adjustment jumps making them shorter and shorter.
@russdennis7026 2 жыл бұрын
Noob question. Should I resize de prime first?
@andyprairiedog4829 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you should resize/deprime first, trim accordingly, chamfer/deburr. I thought I saw GT's .223 casings were still primed as he was trimming them. Possibly to only demonstrate the trimming process. I may be wrong on his particular process...GT may resize, trim, deprime and onto the next task. Reloaders have their ways and it is very interesting to see how we all do our brass preparations. Me, I resize/deprime at the same time, trim (if needed on high volume shooting...definitely on my match ammo), deburr/chamfer and onto next task.
@mattlord2906 5 жыл бұрын
He read the instructions like I do. Less than 2 seconds.
@David-zh7rj Жыл бұрын
Does it deburr the case?
@Jmastffp 4 жыл бұрын
Of the two (the Lyman and the Frankfort Arsenal) which case trimmer do you prefer?
@gerrymatheson4020 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer this one (Lyman Xpress)...quieter, smoother, very user friendly, no issues holding on to short cases like .300blk...
@TNsbeII Жыл бұрын
Am I correct that the cases to be trimmed need to be re-sized before being trimmed?
@robertbrandywine Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@heathboeddeker5401 5 жыл бұрын
Sir I may have misheard ya. But for the .223 isn't the trim length 1.750? Max case length as you stated is 1.760.
@duckslayer11000 5 жыл бұрын
You are correct, the max length is 1.760 according to Hornady vol.10. Hornady also recommends a 1.750 Trim Length.
@heathboeddeker5401 5 жыл бұрын
@@duckslayer11000 yeah that is just one of the manuals that reference those numbers. So I may have misunderstood what was said in the video
@brettwing737 4 жыл бұрын
@@heathboeddeker5401 I heard the same thing.
@BigBenC1991 4 жыл бұрын
He said case length is 1.76 and then went on to say he was trimming to 1.75. I think he just forgot to say max in front of case length.
@GetMeThere1 5 жыл бұрын
Seems a contradiction for the trimmer to headspace on the shoulder while you measure from the case head.
@rjinnh3933 2 жыл бұрын
Properly sized Once Fired Brass Trimmed using the Shoulder as a reference will result in Case Head to Trimmed Neck measurements being consistent from case to case. If the Base/Neck measurements are inconsistent, then the Trimming itself was inconsistent. The more consistent the case prep process, the more consistent the Head to Trimmed Neck measurement. BTW: The SAAMI spec for 223 Head to Neck is 1.760 +0.000 -0.030 or 1.730Min to 1.760Max.
@shawnshultz7575 4 жыл бұрын
Does it make a difference if u trim it pull brass out twist an put back in Like as far as we're it trims to
@gerrymatheson4020 3 жыл бұрын
Not really...because it measures from the shoulder... but turning the case does potentially true up the trim. If by chance one side is a little longer (not perfectly square) turning it 180 and pushing it in again will even out the longer side (and will not touch the shorter side) thereby squaring or truing it up...