German Precision: Präzipress 120mm Reloading Press Overview by Turban CNC

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German Precision: Präzipress 120mm Reloading Press Overview by Turban CNC

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5 жыл бұрын

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Here it is- perhaps the world's more precise reloading press! It's the Heavy Präzipress 120mm from Turban CNC! In this video I unbox this press, mount it using an Inline Fabrication Ultramount, and do some precision tests. The results are AMAZING!
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@angelzipp 11 ай бұрын

When I bought a Prazipress 120 (given the price and awaiting time) I thought I've exaggerated. Owned a Lyman, until that moment. Few years later, I still believe it's one of the best investments I've ever made.

@darrenmclaughlin8971 3 жыл бұрын

I bought this press based on Gavin's review, agree with his assessment, very difficult to fault the Prazipress

@donaldmoser7732 2 жыл бұрын

Where did you buy it?

@orygun9mm761 5 жыл бұрын

So I told my wife it's cheaper than a Nightforrce scope and I'd be saving money.......it didn't go well.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Haha

@samsungtv4u 5 жыл бұрын

Lol that just made me tear up...

@bassin7503ify 5 жыл бұрын

hahaha!!!

@davidharrah3703 5 жыл бұрын

Worthy effort!

@tomharrell1954 5 жыл бұрын

Orygun9mm never tell wives what anything related to ballistics or arms costs. It’s is in areas they are able to comprehend.

@Don.E.63 4 жыл бұрын

Wow very nice press, German quality has always been great, nice demo on a super press.

@ozzelot1983 9 ай бұрын

just got my präzipress 150 today - veryyyyyyy nice

@Boon202 5 жыл бұрын

G, I have the 140 heavy and love the results. I met the Turbans at the IWA last March, very nice guys. They also had a demo of their new progressive that uses Dillon parts. I just love their products, super high quality.

@ryc3rz 5 жыл бұрын

Progressive? Wow... so that's probably that "top secret" thing Gavin was talking about. can't wait to see it.

@ryc3rz 5 жыл бұрын

Can you say a bit more about this progressive? Was it more like XL650 or more like 1050?

@Boon202 5 жыл бұрын

@@ryc3rz I don't think it's top secret since they allowed me to take pics, make a short vid and even sent me updated info and pics of it to share with other US reloaders. maybe G is referring to something else.

@Boon202 5 жыл бұрын

@@ryc3rz here are some basic information: - 5 stations fully usable - quick change headplate system - quick change shellholder system - all gliding surfaces hardened and finely machined - all moving parts are supported by industrial-grade bearings - compatible with DillonXL650 conversion kits and accesories - 7/8 -14 UNF thread in all headplate stations - compatible to Mark7 Autodrive

@pieyed1302 5 жыл бұрын

Wow! What a masterpiece of engineering. Thanks for showing it off.

@guitarrocker0991 5 жыл бұрын

This is the only high quality video I've been able to find on this press since you teased it in an earlier video.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

I wish I could show people this press in person- the video and pictures don't quite give you the full experience! :)

@guitarrocker0991 5 жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatereloader I can imagine. It looks amazing. I feel like I don't even have a gun that would benefit from reloading with such precision.

@MotivatedMetalworks 5 жыл бұрын

What the hell did you do to your drill chuck? That thing's got it's own orbit.

@cammo7014 5 жыл бұрын

I went straight to comments to see if someone else picked tht up😆 He needs to give it a good wack from the bottum upwards😮😮

@jinbyun7854 4 жыл бұрын

I’d like to know too.

@rpap5322 3 жыл бұрын

its a swivel chuck

@artdc6264 2 жыл бұрын

Haha! Searched comments for "wobble." Should have used "orbit."

@PulverizerA 5 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see a comparative loading session with the low tech/low precision American "chevy" press using the same dies and giving runout results. Then a range session comparing the same loadings from both. Then we can see if the results/exclusive factor would be worth the price difference for ourselves. It'll never happen though.

@zunrue1 4 жыл бұрын

Watch the 14 press shootout, should give you the information you were looking for.

@fisher7897 5 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate the time you take to review and upload. Can't wait for the 14 press review!

@betopatino5114 5 жыл бұрын

Didn't know it was so complicated to set up. Good thing you had machining tools to set the press.

@G5Hohn 4 жыл бұрын

Engineer, Machinist, and reloading freak-- Gavin is THE MAN.

@trasco86 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Gavin! Had the chance to inspect this press first hand. An absolute masterpiece of equipment! Im now the proud owner. As you say, its unlike anything else out there. Are you planning to get hands on with some high-end dies like the German Triebel dies anytime soon? Thanks for all the great work, keep em coming.

@edd1e22 5 жыл бұрын

"Look how large the diameter of this thing....I like smooth knobs personally I find that they have the least amount of chaffing...."

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

haha

@leadbullets4life 4 жыл бұрын

when you said 120mm reloading press i thought it would load 120mm shells.

@Welder6131 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting press....at this point i'll stick to my MEC as it produces similar results. I agree that quality dies are a must along with good prep etiquette. Thank you for sharing.

@AlfJDale 4 жыл бұрын

Hi! You need to stiffen top plate or fundament(or both) on your bench. Can see the press dipping on bench👌

@fabiosantos8591 5 жыл бұрын

Mr. Peter Kolovos, you dont have to apologize lol. For rifle ammo i like to use MAC Marksman press. And MEC press cost only $ 200 . Thanks for the information.

@austexhunting4755 5 жыл бұрын

My wife said, "you don't need that, and there's no way you'll win it anyway". We can't let her win.

@hollowpoint45acp 3 жыл бұрын

Wives like that are easy to nail

@AF-O6 5 жыл бұрын

Do you expect Inline or anyone else to offer the custom fastening hardware you fabricated? Would you consider publishing a sketch of what you built? I’m also one who will pay more for the right “feel” of a fine tool. I don’t expect others to understand, but even if it did have no impact on the finished product, the feel makes it more enjoyable to me. To each his own.

@g-mc4507 5 жыл бұрын

Cam over on the next level.

@Evaed100 5 жыл бұрын

Definitely an awesome press indeed! Can't wait to see it in your lineup coming soon!

@rodleger7132 10 ай бұрын

Impressive results to say the least! Looking forward to the other videos with this press.

@ozzelot1983 9 ай бұрын

I would also look forward for more videos, but his one and only video is already 4 years old 😕

@mr.william1913 5 жыл бұрын

I'm very excited about your head to head testing with all these presses. I'm actually waiting to watch it before I go and buy my first kit. Big thumbs up!!

@albertthesecond210 4 жыл бұрын

I did discover that the dust cover offered by Mec for their metallic reloader fits my 120 perfectly. The KMS^2 LED strip for the Forster Co-Ax fits too! Most my dies (Redding, Forster, Whidden, etc.) fit. I have discovered that my Redding 30-06 FL sizer would not screw in to the proper (i.e., useful) depth. This die was purchase 10-15 years ago. I purchased a new Redding die and it fits well. Last night I discovered my Redding 223 FL sizer could not be fitted "by hand" but with a modest amount of force from the Brownell's die tool I was in business. I am wondering about Thread Class mis-match

@halfdollar86 5 жыл бұрын

Love learning new stuff. Always have respected German manufacturing.

@Sprachlos 5 жыл бұрын

Richtig! Wir können nur Qualitativ hochwertig.

@halfdollar86 5 жыл бұрын

I wish KZfaq had a translate button like Facebook has. It isn’t always perfect but it makes it where you can interact with foreign languages. I use it in a long range group I’m in.

@luzianwasescha6056 5 жыл бұрын

Jörg Reusch ja. Deswegen gibts ja so Viele pfusch am bau videos...

@ironbomb6753 5 жыл бұрын

@@halfdollar86 he said "Right on bro! This is a quality bitchin press, us Germans know about building cool stuff!!! "

@halfdollar86 5 жыл бұрын

Ironbomb thanks

@redleg1013 5 жыл бұрын

Fun manufacturing fact: Metric cap screws have a 90° included angle countersink while unified national inch have an 82° included angle countersink.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, figured that out when I machined the countersink adapter nuts :)

@thejohnnybob 5 жыл бұрын

Not sure if you noticed, but there's a substantial amount of runout in your mill chuck. Might want to look into that.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, I did notice that- the outside wobbles, but the bits run true when chucked up- a cheap import I'll upgrade before too long! :)

@jensdavidsen4557 5 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see the single stage lineup! So many people say that once you get a progressive press you'll never use single stage again...strongly disagree. I have both and 7yrs later I still love my Lee Classic Cast Breech Lock single stage...and I love my Lee Pro 1000. I just use the Pro 1000 for semi-auto pistol cartridges and single stage for rifle and large pistol (44mag and 45Colt).

@tomharrell1954 5 жыл бұрын

The numbers on the necks could be from the case thickness variations unless you turned the necks

@uMalice 5 жыл бұрын

At the bottom of the stroke, it appears to move the die and head assembly down. I thought that maybe this is merely compression on the mount or bench but upon additional viewing the die is moving. Please let me know what you think of this.

@jp7233 5 жыл бұрын

The flex is in the bench. At the bottom of the stroke the complete mount moves as the bench flexes. Check out Gavins other videos, you will see the bench flex with ALL of his presses. I changed my bench top to a 3/4 ply top with a 40mm solid oak kitcken worktop screwed to it. No movement under any pressure on any of my presses. I use a T-rail like Gavin's but the front rail is kept approx. 70mm back from the front edge of the bench. As solid as Thompsons Graving Dock. Regards. JP. Think I'm gonna have one of these.....

@Silverone858lol 5 жыл бұрын

Yes I've seen his bench flex a bit. I had to brace my LLM with a steel tube to the floor.

@madman432000 5 жыл бұрын

@@jp7233 I had to look again and yes it seems the mount plate is flexing. I didn't think I liked that mounting system he was using and that confirms why. But I don't change to different presses so I don't need anything like that.

@matthewgarrett6371 5 жыл бұрын

FWIW, the standard Prazi Press, as in the base press, has MORE than enough room to service a .338 Lapua(300 grain bullet weight/length) cartridge. I've owned my Prazi for two years and cannot think of a better press. I have had a friend, who works within the industry, to say that it was "aero space quality"... FWIW & IME...

@pacman10182 5 жыл бұрын

"I like smooth knobs" ~Gavin 2019

@pacman10182 5 жыл бұрын

"least amount of chafing" stop it, I'm dying!

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Haha! Keep your mind out of the gutter :)

@pacman10182 5 жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatereloader my mind is right where it belongs

@nosh1753 2 жыл бұрын

finally something really great for the reloader... that we dont have to buy from overseas (which means wait for delivery, spare parts etc.) get some dies from TRIEBEL as well folks... they´re worth the money.. just like the präzipress ! ...greez from Austria !

@josh10mm 5 жыл бұрын

can't wait to see show down

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

[Clint Eastwood music in background]

@martinscharf3902 5 жыл бұрын

If you like this press, try dies from „Triebel Guntools“ in combination with it! You‘ll be amazed! But i‘ve to warn you, they’re also on the pricey side.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

I'm hoping to! Thomas Turban was telling me about them!

@zazkariafrady9152 5 жыл бұрын

Amazing press. I cant wait for your single stage shootout.

@mattpie595 5 жыл бұрын

I tried to buy the140mm last night for bmg but could not decipher how to pay. It kept asking for my bank account number. How about visa?

@KyleShields 5 жыл бұрын

I've gotten less bullet runout than this using a Lee Breechlock Challenger with either a Lee seating die or a Forster seating die (the same one that Gavin has in this video). Measuring with the same tool after seating 140gr ELD-M I barely saw the needle move from 0, the "worst" result was about 0.0015. I'm not meaning for this to sound negative- from what I can tell I'm sure this press is excellent. The build quality looks great! I just feel that having great reloading technique and practice goes a lot further than any press will. :)

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Great results Kyle!

@robertqueberg4612 2 жыл бұрын

Hello Gavin, A nice review of an obviously well designed tool. Your reservations about the Hornady Lock N Load bushings introducing an error are in my opinion, based on nearly twenty-five years of using them on several different calibers, is that they(your concerns) are unnecessary and misplaced. As I stated, these are my opinions, and no animals, other than woodchucks, coyotes, and prairie dogs were injured in this testing. I loaded around 3000 rounds of 22-250 for three rifles, that will all produce 1/4” or better five shot groups @ 100 yds. from Pac-Nor barrels. Another rifle in 25-06 AI will produce.3-.5” groups until the barrel needs to be set back. One of the miss placed concerns is any radial movement of the press ram, or dies. It is easier to allow some radial movement, to allow the case and bullet to find their common center axis. If you go to any sanctioned national best rest competition (talk about picky), and you will see a large percentage of top tier competitors using the arbor press type die set up in order to get the best case bullet alignment possible. During a conversation with Todd Kindler at one of the Super Shoots, he mentioned placing a thin o-ring under the die lock ring to achieve the same benefits.

@1stormseekr336 5 жыл бұрын

Some will complain about the price..but things like this will cause some design changes in cheaper presses...even lead to maybe a new design.

@philipng6598 6 күн бұрын

I just came across LE Wilson’s website and they are coming up with their copy of this press and it doesn’t seem like it has been released yet. Would love to see if you can get your hands on and do a review

@justinberwick2827 5 жыл бұрын

Really looking forward to the single stage review. It will be very informative. Perhaps there will also be a head to head comparison of some progressive presses in the near future.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, I do plan to do the progressives as well, hopefully this year...

@justinberwick2827 5 жыл бұрын

That's great news. I would like to get one this year.

@halfdollar86 5 жыл бұрын

I sometimes when I have runout over 2 thou I’ll run my ammo back through the seating die and turn the case and do it again and it really helps.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting...

@halfdollar86 5 жыл бұрын

gavintoobe give it a try. It helps a lot.

@shawn-stuff 5 ай бұрын

Thx for the effort on the review

@topgunjoeicdbko 5 жыл бұрын

I love the enthusiasm!!!

@zappbrannigan8352 5 жыл бұрын

german 1- "so how much do we sell the press for?" german 2- "I dont know. just pick something ridiculous, but be sure to put 'german engineering' on the box. it works for the finicky cars we sell" haha

@TXPhred1 3 жыл бұрын

Do you still,load with your PraziPress? Have you compared it to the Area 419 press? What is the accepted point of contact on the bullet for measuring concentricity? Close to the case neck or further away?

@tomjoseph1444 2 жыл бұрын

Great press if you can afford or justify it. I have owned about every common press you can name over 50 years of reloading including 8 Dillons at one time. In my twilight years I am using a Co-Ax and it does just fine. P.S. I had a '72 280 SE when I lived in Germany. The last of the actual hand built cars and engines from Mercedes. One of the best cars I ever owned.

@michaelcraig7297 4 жыл бұрын

Glad I checked the comments below and found-out the price. Not even worth the time to watch the video, now.

@derstedi1481 Жыл бұрын

Great review! Thanks a lot and thumbs up!

@jimbasler303 4 ай бұрын

This is not for newbies like me. Very nice.

@aaronmcleanmclean2245 5 жыл бұрын

This is way better than the forster co ax press. I am getting +or- 3-4 on my sizing or headspace. As for runout on Conictricaty I dont know , I dont have a Conictricaty gauge.

@rpap5322 3 жыл бұрын

How about priming the empty cases you will have to c-clamp the top plate down to seat the primer, or is there a hand prime tool that come with the Mercedes ......

@DimaProk 5 жыл бұрын

You had me at linear ball bearings!

@Dwayne7834 5 жыл бұрын

Great looking press. Good video

@44hawk28 3 жыл бұрын

Single stage press, I'd like to know what you paid for it. I did work on an RCBS Rock chucker years ago on my very first Centerfire rifle which was a Ruger Model 77 and 7 mm mag that I purchased in 1979. I would neck size only, because I was told to buy a benchrest shooter. A man who had held the 200-yard record for some years. And when I took it to the range I fired the first and then we spend that cartridge nine rounds to sight in the scope. Then I fired a 20 shot group into a group the center to Center spread was 049 in. The man sitting next to me at the bench had a 22-250 benchrest rifle and he said he had never seen a group like that in his life and he asked me where the rest of the groups were that I had shot. I told him that's all 20 rounds and he was utterly flabbergasted. It was a heck of a lot of round to shoot at a bench. But it was 140 grain Spire point with I believe, if memory serves me correctly it was 47 or 49 grains of 4350. At the time I remember that it was three range over the top load in any of the books that I had. But that's the load that this man gave me. It was also the slowest powder I think that was available at the time. But it shot superbly. And that's with an RCBS Rock chucker press. And it was more than Precision enough to put together ammo that shot out of this really spent Lee Barrel I had on that Ruger. It left me with a rifle that I can literally shoot flies with at 100 yards. The interesting thing about it is it would shoot the Sierra bullets as tightly as it would the Hornady bullets with a completely different ogive. That surprised the hell out of me. I ended up selling that rifle to a man who is really looking for a 7 mm mag. And I had every Target I had shot with it over the previous five years and I had still fired it less than 100 rounds total. I gave 20 rounds of ammo that I had loaded. And I gave him all of the load data never. It was a superlative rifle but it would beat the living tar out of you at the bench. I would fire it I would open the bowl and I would let it sit there for about 15 to 20 seconds and then I would close the bolt on the next round take my physician fire it and I will open the bolt and let it sit there for another 15 to 20 seconds. I've never had a rifle shoot that tight except for a Galil I fired at Selfridge Air National Guard base that was a full auto 308 with a carbine length barrel and a folding stock that fired a half inch group with iron sights. That's the only firearm I've ever fired that came close to that rifle. Good luck with the Press. But remember that that 6.5 Creedmoor has a tighter chamber than most rifles. That's how they've been able to take the next step up in precision rifle shooting. If my recent purchase of a medium-weight barrel Ruger Model 77 in 308 it shoots anywhere close to as nice as that 7 mil mag did, I will be a happy camper.

@fabiosantos8591 5 жыл бұрын

For this price, better buy a dillon 650 with case feeder. But the Turban press is amazing.

@amsb4dafunk406 5 жыл бұрын

Fabio Santos I get 1 MOA from my 650, but for the sub-MOA one hole stuff, I use a single stage.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

For the price of apples, I'll stick with oranges

@peterkolovos3079 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry, but you don't reload precision rifle ammo on a Dillon.

@MotivatedMetalworks 5 жыл бұрын

@@peterkolovos3079 Gavin says you use a powder thrower to do it. ;) Yeah, I laughed good at that one too.

@michaspi 5 жыл бұрын

Peter Kolovos US Army Marksmanship Unit has single stage and progressive presses of all kinds making precision ammo.

@o2wow 5 жыл бұрын

Very interesting press, it would be interesting to see how the performance of the Präzipress press compares to arbor presses/dies.

@cs_yt 5 жыл бұрын

I can't wait for the single press combined test, since I'm about to add a single precision press. I'd love to spring "für die Präzipress", but I'm not sure the shooter/re-loader over here can rack the benefits to justify the cost.

@jassonco 5 жыл бұрын

While those are excellent runout values, should have done one more test "case runout", but it probably would'v been excellent also!

@heeroyuy4561 5 жыл бұрын

You're right I want one!

@silentbob267 5 жыл бұрын

Is it just me or was the die moving up and down during sizing? If yes is there some free float built into the design or is something else at play here?

@f1rezs 5 жыл бұрын

It's the quick change mount, look at the front edge (11:40), it moves the same amount.

@silentbob267 5 жыл бұрын

@@f1rezs I don't think that is a quick change mount. It looks like it threads in the same as the bushing on a Rock Chucker would.

@f1rezs 5 жыл бұрын

No, I mean the quick change top/table mount. The die and adapter are threads, no way to have noticable axial movement here.

@silentbob267 5 жыл бұрын

@@f1rezs I see what you mean now. I looked before but didn't notice it. Nice catch.

@lancevaughn5337 5 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to big single stage press review. You mention measuring ram wobble. Looking forward to how you will be doing this. Thanks!

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, especially on aluminum frame presses where you can't easily use a magnetic indicator holder :)

@lancevaughn5337 5 жыл бұрын

gavintoobe Yes, that will be a challenge. I’m so looking forward to this study of yours. You are doing a great service with your channel! Thanks for all you do. It helps the rest of us to make decisions that are more wise.

@42TRGSako 5 жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for this review! Can't wait to see more videos with this press. Also is that a Kennedy toolbox in the background?

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Yes! Multiple Kennedy toolboxes :)

@garyc5245 2 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing the RCBS shell holders had no issue popping into place?

@peterkolovos3079 5 жыл бұрын

If you guys are high-end competitive shooters who are reloading for PRECISION, then the price doesn't matter. If you are plinkers, weekend warriors reloading cannon fodder for the range, or just Chairborne Rangers then this press in NOT for you.

@DimaProk 5 жыл бұрын

You might want to check concentricity on that milling chuck, wobbles like crazy.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, that chuck is kind of a piece of crap (I did not get it from Precision Matthews :) ).

@yuriys.6352 5 жыл бұрын

Very interesting! Thanks for the review!!

@Klocaine237 5 жыл бұрын

I like geeking out with you on your channel. 🤪👍👍👍👍👍

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad to have you as a subscriber!

@PJ-si2po 3 жыл бұрын

I did own a German car and had often electric problems expensive to fix transmission was leaking, and got raid of it at 82,000k and bought a Focus station Wagon and I did spent way less money on that car in 225,000k and the car was 1/2 the price and I still drive that car to this day

@danmacdonald1291 5 жыл бұрын

Bad ass workshop you have there, maybe a short video on your gear and what you do with it would be sweet ;)

@johnbailey9682 5 жыл бұрын

I think the mec press is just as good . Plus you save a lot of money . Put this press side by side with the mec and see what results you get .

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

I did. Please see the 14 press shootout!

@Choronzon39 5 жыл бұрын

I live in an apartment. So, I use a Lee hand press and Hornady dies. I also have some L.E. Wilson hand dies an a arbor press. Anyway you don't need $1000.00 in reloading gear to pump out some accurate rounds.

@peteraugust5295 Жыл бұрын

While I think this is a cool tool and a cool piece to showoff, the question stands: Why would I care about perfect press allignment If eventually my case floats in a holder with 0.5mm play and the holder floats in the ram with 0.5mm play? Again, I completely get why people buy this and I understand why it is more fun to work with quality tools, but how is it supposed to help with accuracy of your ammo? Also what is the point of measuring 0.001 inch with calipers? calipers are not meant to measure that and as you nicely showed you can easily push your values to what you want with one tiny movement of your thumb...

@peteraugust5295 Жыл бұрын

@@t3h8ar0n I know how handloading works and I understand the concept beind it. Still: the side to side allignment does not need a lot of precision, since your ase is held losely in the caseholder anyway. There is no need to have allignment of 1/100th of a millimeter, when your case has 0.5mm slop in its holder.

@petersouthernboy6327 4 жыл бұрын

A Forster Coax is about half the price. Which leaves you enough money for a set of custom Whidden Dies, Alpha or Lapua brass, and Berger bullets.

@steverowe2943 5 жыл бұрын

Nice review and looking forward to seeing more on this press. I doubt I will ever own one since I have been unable to wear out the Forster Coax. I was wondering about your thoughts on annealing. I have been eyeing the AMP unit but it also comes at a high price point that I can't currently justify for my use. Thanks.

@haylspa 3 жыл бұрын

Wow that is impressive!!! I WANT ONE!!! Nice intro guy!!

@TheKajunkat 5 жыл бұрын

Summary of comment section: Prazipress, wah too expensive! Schmidt and bender PM2, wah too expensive! Accuracy international action, wah too expensive! Kreiger barrels, wah too expensive! Lapua brass, wah too expensive! Atlas bipod, wah too expensive! Berger bullets, wah too expensive! ecetera ecetera ad nauseum. Basic economics people, small batch and high precision equals much more money. Mass produced and low precision equals less money.

@TSPhotoAtlanta 5 жыл бұрын

Your comment, wah, too precious! Only ‘black or white’ are fallacies, have always been. But this does appear to be the machinists’ better press.

@Anunnasboy 5 жыл бұрын

Clearly Gavin has been a successful engineer. I should've partied less in college.

@twilightroach4274 4 жыл бұрын

You forgot AMP annealer, wha too expensive, lol, I now will have to upgrade to a prazipress 🙄

@308guy8 5 жыл бұрын

Are you trying to validate your purchase or sell presses either way i would like to no

@CHIBA280CRV Жыл бұрын

Hey Gavin , in your opinion if you had to choose one over the other would you pick the German unit or the area 419 zero unit ? Looking to purchase one , and respect your opinion.. Thanks let me know please 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@CZed75 5 жыл бұрын

When measuring bullet run-out you were saying + or - 1 thou. So is that a total of 2 thousands run-out? I'm just not understanding your verbage. If the needle runs + and - of where your indicator is set you add them together to get your run-out measurement. Also in future videos can we get some close up shots of what you are reviewing?

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

It's all in the write-up.

@gdog4323 5 жыл бұрын

Is it more precise to measure the run out so close to the end of the cartridge on the concentricity tool?

@livincincy4498 5 жыл бұрын

It looks like the went the opposite direction of a free floating press design. I have to wonder if the results have any bearing on the range and at what distances you see diminishing returns.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, locked down rather than floating- kind of like the "floating reamer holder" -vs- precision lathe without float for reamer when cutting a rifle chamber!

@livincincy4498 5 жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatereloader - There has to be a matrix to solve the cost of dies, cost of press, cost of gun, cost of press, distance shot vs group size question... I think the reality is we live in a time where we have to choose the right golf club in shooting / hand loading sports. It is not which equipment is best... it is what do I want to do ? It is a great time to be into this form of recreation.

@Choronzon39 5 жыл бұрын

I load my rounds on my coffee table while watching TV for the most part.

@Plainsimple67 4 жыл бұрын

AND THAT'S WHERE MISTAKES HAPPEN.

@petergriffin383 4 жыл бұрын

Upload the kaboom please

@PC-vq5ud 5 жыл бұрын

How about sizing military sourced once fired 7.62 NATO? That would tell us more about sizing consistency.

@schwellenzaehler4587 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry, but military cases are not the right material for reloading precison ammo. Military ammo is not precisely build, the cases have relatively great production tolerences. This Ammonition is build mostly for function in all weapons and must be cheap, precision is a minor factor. My buddie tried al lot with this cases, he wasnt ever happy with this stuff.

@PC-vq5ud 5 жыл бұрын

@@schwellenzaehler4587 True that. My point is that most military 7.62 ammo is fired in full automatic weapons that have large chambers. The cases take a considerable amount of force to size. Gauging them after sizing for exterior size consistency would be enlightening.

@Mr911rugster 5 жыл бұрын

How do you even know if you bumped the shoulder? You didn’t measure prior to sizing...

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Shoulder bump was measured at -0.0015"

@daviddale3624 5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely amazing.

@josephalexander3884 3 жыл бұрын

1.25x12 inch could be used for .416 Barrett I suspect, could it not? It is shortened 50 BMG case.

@badoldboy5557 5 жыл бұрын

Greatings from good old Germany - YES - I like it - It was always more expensive to have a special taste. It's really expensive but - what ist expensive ;-)

@edstimator1 4 жыл бұрын

OK...first comment you made...pulled out the handle and seemed to be VERY impressed. It's a threaded rod of steel with a ball on the end very similar to my hornady lnl. I guess when you pay that much for a press you get impressed with everything starting with the box??

@JeromeHernandezincali 4 жыл бұрын

Don't you think the run-out is mostly because of the Forster? I get same result with my old rock chucker.

@GearZenChannel 4 жыл бұрын

My Leica and my H&K approve.

@albertthesecond210 4 жыл бұрын

Nothing tells a woman you love her more than a nice new press with awesome leverage!

@xAeschylusx 3 жыл бұрын

What is the significance of bullet runout, and how exactly is that a function of the press and not the die? I’ve always done 3 presses while seating bullets, but that’s more to get consistent COL rather than for runout. Always chalked up inconsistencies in COL as being from the slop in the shell holder and how the bullet was sitting in it rather than the press

@SABjork 5 жыл бұрын

I can't believe the level of concentrisity you are getting. You know that you can adjust the runout to zero using the gauge, right?

@iamsomebodynobody 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure how easy to mount the turban press on the reloading bench directly instead of inline fabrication platform. Do the mounting holes at unusual location and in different size comparing to other mainstream brands like Hornady, RCBS, Lee etc.?

@junmadrid2010 4 жыл бұрын

Does Prazi have a smaller press and with lower cost ? For pistol and decapping....

@madman432000 5 жыл бұрын

Anyone else notice the die moving when he sizes the case? What's with that? Is that flex in the base that he talked about? I checked out the Turban website and the standard 105mm press is a 2 column press, not 3 like this one, and will handle up to 338 Lapua. Essentially the same as an O frame press, Rockchucker etc.