I remember thinking exactly the same thing last year. TBH I think the people that the 25k runners see ARE the better 50k runners. Most of us were still at the bottom of the Watkin path when the 25k people hit the top!

Ahhh interesting -- I did the 25km and felt like when I saw them on Snowdon, the 50kms were in a different league on speed of descent and how fast/fresh they looked. Gives me more hope I could do the 50 next year reading this!!

100%. The 25km runners will have seen the sub 10hr runners. The majority of 50km runners will have arrived atop Snowdon well after that. If you can do the 25k you can ABSOLUTELY do the 50km - if you put in lots of hill work

Well done. It sounds as if we all went through it on those last couple of hills. What an experience, eh?! Once I crested Mynydd Mawr I was fairly certain I was going to make it, as I remembered from my recce that Moel Elio is not a 4 hr trek. That said, I hadn’t taken into account the long run home so it was perhaps tighter than I had anticipated and I’m glad I kept going.

Thanks - much appreciated and good luck for next year. Plenty of hills during training, plenty of water and electrolytes during the race - do this and you won’t go too far wrong!!

That’s great to hear! Even up to the last moment, I was undecided re water capacity. Water is heavy. Having run in rain for 4 months it is easy to forget how much water one gets through on a hot race. However 2l of capacity was definitely the right choice, even though I only filled up 1.5l at the start. Having that extra flexibility to load up with more water en route was invaluable and the water filter was a great buy. It just gives you that confidence to push on knowing you always have a plentiful supply of water. Purification tablets are good too but I just found that the taste of anything artificial was really off putting near the mid/end of the race. Many congratulations for completing the 25km - some of the comments remind me how boggy and hot the section after the checkpoint is. And, yes, I am proud!

Mynydd Mawr was by far the low point. Still undecided what’s next, although I am running my “backyard” Martian Half in June (“Martian” because it is held on Horsell Common where HG Wells has the Martians landing in War of the Worlds!)

100k may be too much for me - not sure I have any ambitions there but let’s see. I’m more inclined to do the 25k with some friends - a group run with more time to enjoy the rest of the day, finish line and event village. Let’s see.

@@grahammethold any race with 100 in the title doesn’t interest me either. It’s nice to go out there and enjoy the experience knowing you can get to the checkpoints. Enjoy your recovery 👍

Thanks - that's kind of you to say so

@@grahammethold You’re welcome. I also did the 50k in Snowdonia the other weekend. Looks like I came in about 15 minutes behind you. So very well done 👍

Thanks - I've booked myself in for the 80km Arc in January!

I have a local race in June - the Martian Half - on Horsell Common, but otherwise not much planned. Any ideas of what I should do next? I can apply for a UTMB in Chamonix for next year but I probably need to get something in the diary for this year. I am going to the Lakes for a weeks holiday so perhaps a good opportunity to recce the Lakeland races?