Since I've uploaded this video i've been in touch with UltraViolet and we've talked in private. We both have very strong and passionate views on racing games and we were able to come to a good contentious. We hold no hard feelings with each other. In fact, Moses has been extremely chill and professional about my response video which I respect a TON. I will Not Tolerate any hatred or defamatory comments towards Ultraviolet or anyone involved. After all, we are talking about video games on the internet. Like I said in my video please watch his video before you watch mine, and come to your own conclusion. I want to thank Ultraviolet again for his professionalism and please check out his content!

I do agree with him about how the legacy cars and also the body kits from heat being resold.

"That's mostly it" is straight up misinformation. The gameplay updates is what every KZfaqr making Forza critique videos would love and he just refused to play it.

20:58 This is the thing I agree with the most. Modern arcade racers in general, not just NFS, have just been disappointing and have had the same problems especially with live service. Also yes, it is hypocritical for him to talk about scams and support TCM when they literally took away The Crew 1 from buyers. And he calls the Donks vs Lowriders for TCM update a good example of the type of creativity we need in modern racers, when the rhythm minigame is just a rip off of GTASA's minigame, and you there's only a few donks and lowriders actually added to the game, that can barely even be customized at all, when nearly 20 years ago, we got Midnight Club 3, where you can make pretty much ANY car a Donk or Lowrider, and add hydraulics to any car. It's crazy how low the standards have gotten for customization in arcade racing games.

I just want drift and drag offline that’s all 😩

I usually really like UltraViolet’s vids but that video felt really pointless imo. I definitely agree with some of his points, especially the fact that the updates are multiplayer focused which is annoying for someone like me who generally prefers to play in an offline single player setting. So I completely understand him not wanting to give Unbound a second chance because at the end of the day he already played the game and isn’t obligated to revisit it in any way. What I don’t understand is why he felt the need to make a whole video explaining that he isn’t going to give Unbound a second chance while also making a lot of glass half empty arguments and comparisons that he seemed to have formed due to the fact that he hasn’t properly delved into the new content in the first place. If it was a case of him getting annoyed that people were asking him for a re-review then he should’ve put up a community post stating that he has no intention of returning to Unbound and left it at that. If that’s not the case then idk, it just seemed like he really wanted to rip into Unbound to the point of straight up spreading misinformation. Whether that was his intention or not I don’t really know. Also that whole bit at the end, basically rallying people to boycott not just playing the game but also simply giving a re-review was really unnecessary.

I will say, some things Unbound did are a bit questionable but that doesn’t mean you should not give Unbound a chance of redemption. I gave it after not playing it for some time and I enjoyed the current state of the game because it’s very enjoyable and more fun than Motorfest and Forza. Normally some of the videos from him are okay but this one really turned me off.

5:47 His complaint about the single player lacking content after the main story is perfectly valid though. I jumped back in the game after vol.7 released , and played through the new stuff in multiplayer I like linkups, the new drag mode is ok, the new drift physics are better but overall to me these are minor additions. They dont make me want to play the game any longer than an hour or 2. Its not fair critique but the point still stands that as a more single player focused player , i wouldnt be happy to have to jump in to multiplayer for all these new features , modes and cars, when not many of these additions have made it into singleplayer. I think multiplayer having its own progression was a interesting idea and it certainly helps with increasing playtime But i would have loved to have single player cars be usable in multiplayer and also to not grind so much

What if one doesn't want to ever touch multiplayer? He is going to not have new additions from volumes. I personally hate being forced to do something example is use a multiplayer when I don't want to.

I can’t believe this guy seriously shit on Need For Speed unbound which is a game that is trying its best to fix its problems and promoted The Crew which is an actual scam franchise 🤦🏿‍♂️

UltraViolet being UltraVoilent towards NFS

as someone who’s made videos critiquing NFS, i attacked it from the angle offering what i thought the game was missing or what existing things were half-baked. THIS is just embarrassing. most of the DLC is just aesthetic packs and none of the paid cars give you an edge. bro was trying to argue out of nothing. play the game. it’s aight. it used to suck 😭

Two emotional takes butting heads usually doesn't go well. I'm just nerdy about this stuff, personally, but you both have very valid points. And, in a way, do seem likely to very much misunderstand each other. I see this as two different perspectives, speaking as someone who somehow still regularly watches so much arcade racing game stuff: the side of someone who is somewhat of an average consumer and isn't interested in single player, and the side of a very long-time fan very aware of the work going into this game. Unfortunately, something I've learned over the years is that the behind-the-scenes knowledge and understanding ultimately doesn't matter if something doesn't impress at face value. If someone has a down payment on a product, and that product gets delayed several times with full explanations as to why, they can be accepting of what's going on, or they can not care and be totally pissed. Or both! It's one of those things where things just don't align, and that's fine. I see the work going into Unbound, and I appreciate it. Yes, all of the paid content is obscene but I like the game! If someone else doesn't or can't, ah well! Just gotta keep doing you and not let someone else's take affect how you do you.

Lost my sides at him gassing up the Donk mini-game as being "creative" as if it wasn't lifted straight from GTA:SA on top of being nothing but a novelty no one is gonna touch a day after launch.

He refuses to touch Unbound's Multiplayer. Yet he's praising Crew MF which is an online only game.

Right now this is CraptasticJack vs. UltraViolet at the moment.

It's 100% ok to critique a game. In one comment they replied that they "don't enjoy making critical videos, but someone needs to do it". But the tone of that video was definitely not critical. It was more of a mocking essay and felt like they had a personal agenda against the game. I am actually happy that SP & MP are separate games. I agree there are things that Unbound might have done wrong. But to ignore everything that it has done right is just funny. MP is the end game in NFS Unbound. Yes, there are meta cars, but there are also people who win races with non meta cars. It's easy to get on the hate bandwagon and garner views. Someone needs to call that video out for what it is : It's just another shill video.

25:56 I’m so sick and tired of people who don’t even play this game, telling the developers to let it die

NFS Unbound Seasonpass is one of the easiest in the industry. One linkup round and a couple of races in one hour, and I usually get 5-6 tiers of 75. I don't grind this BP, I breeze pass it.

Disingenuous is a good word to use for a lot of similar people/vids I'm quite disappointed in him, what a clown

People saying they're forced to play multiplayer for the new content is so funny, like who is forcing you? Lmao It's also confusing because if you played the singleplayer and enjoyed it, why not keep enjoying it as it you did? And if you didn't like the game at all even in singleplayer just don't play it. What's so hard to understand?

He cant say anything about multiplayer if he never got into multiplayer. Things like these is what triggers me of peoples opinion

Bro is really going to praise the crew MF, I do enjoy the game but the game is hella grinding especially getting the upgrades you want for your car since it’s RNG based, or the price of vehicles, only thing about Crew MF is being able transfer your cars so you don’t have to grind the cars again

I really don't understand all the hate NFS Unbound is getting. I don't play it regularly, I went through the single player and that was it for me, however I did enjoy the single player portion of the game. I really don't understand why everyone is being so pissed off about it, it feels to me like at this point it's just trendy to hate on it and that's about it.

What made me unsubscribe from them without looking back was the corny ass villain speech at the end of their video.

BRU i got talked into giving nfsu a 2nd chance as i liked underground and i was having fun a 1 hour turned to 2 then more its making steps to point i look forward to the next season coming. i feel there isnt a perfect racing game

I dont see why people are so triggered by UV. He doesnt play the game and clearly just doesnt like it. If he doesnt play the game, why take his opinion w anything more than a grain of salt?

Honestly, my biggest beef up till now is that UV is BORING. And this isn't me being some Tiktok kid, cos I love guys like Noah Caldwell Gervais. I don't care much for racing game YT either. But I put on a UV video, even one I agree with and I'm just bored. Too boring to even sleep to. I'm not sure what it is specifically. Their voice, the writing, or what, but I'm clicking off, it's repellent to me, like a Ubisoft game.

feels like he tried to replicate the flippys video about tony hawks pro skater 5 😢

He is definitely becoming thing that he hates the most and im honestly worried

I cant believe ultraviolet has a problem with functioning multiplayer and developers actually improving their game ( uv's vid just seemed like rage bait)

19:22 Ive spent about 160+ hours on this game

Personally speaking, nfs unbound has never been my cup of tea and my overall opinion on it hasn't changed at all, but I don't go out of my way to mindlessly shit on people who like anything about this game. Ultraviolets whole video gives off this feeling of ridicule, shaming you for liking this game and making it out like you're somehow crazy for supporting it, which makes him come off as a jerk at points. He is 100 percent allowed to not like this game and give constructive criticism on it but his whole attitude throughout that video, especially that corny ass ending was uncalled for.

The fact that he wants the game to be discontinued just because he hates multiplayer pretty much contradicted everything he said up to the point. Like seriously, who made him mad?

I've only been on lakeshore online twice. A few months ago and tonight. maybe like 3 hours, i already have enough to make builds for playlists. There is zero grind, you get the cars you bought in campaign and you get a ton of money if you play the little zone activities. The online i forgot was a feature but its ok some of those lobbies are fun. the m3 lobby is fun seeing everyone struggle in the sh*tty stock m3 comp.

ill say this every need for speed game becomes freeware once they stop selling meanwhile the crew couldve just made an offline patch

youtube algorithm have been shoving me that UltraViolet video. Not trying to discrediting UltraViolet here, but i'm glad i kinda skip that video and straight into your reaction. from my view, UltraViolet's rant is valid but its too much of the stretch. I agree about new content on MP should be also brought over into SP simultaneously is one thing. but saying "F this game and their predatory montazation, play other games instead", that has waaay more predatory than the one they're boycotting ? hmmmmm idk about that one, chief. smells like some hypocrisy going on here.

22:14 John Racing switched gears to whoop some asses.

Honestly i just think UltraViolet hates NFS at this point but pretends to care about the series instead of dropping it and moving on as normal people will do.

Dammit my two favourite youtubers who both also happens to like hpr2010 are at war hmmmm

Call me a Criterion apologizer all you want. This game is really good and i hate that so many people dismiss it. Besides, Ultraviolet's video has no solid fundaments.

I personally don't find it a problem to spend over 100 hours to grind for a reward

The thing about forza adding all these cars for $15 vs need for speed adding 2 cars for $15, is the amount of work on the models. Forza horizon will never have this amount of customization with all these clashing and varied bodykits with stylistic choices like the tags on top of that. The only game that comes close to the car customization is the crew.

The monetization is bad, but content was actually added into the single player if i'm not wrong. But not all content, wich SHOULD have been in the single player. Add takeovers, drag, proper drift, cars and the content that comes with them not only in single player, but also free (the speed pass could be excused, but it's not ideal) 5:19 you also can't limit the content to one single game mode. Imagine if, in F1 2020, you could ONLY use Formula 2 cars or classic cars in Multiplayer Look, i'm not trying to defend everything in that video, but i did agree with lots of it. I went out of my way to reinstall the game, wanting to see what was new, but i was greeted with no new additions to the single player (granted, there was the oh so precious realistic effects, but that's just for those goblins who don't accept different aesthetics) and a glitch specifically in lakeshore online where i could absolutely NOT buy or sell any car, just stuck with the two i had, and everything released after Vol. 2 was monetized, so not only did i waste time uninstalling GRID Legends and reinstalling Unbound to have literally nothing new except for "buy riced Nissans", "buy Audi", "buy M3" and "buy Mustang". Oh, and the glitch as well The extra content is pointless in practice, and live service doesn't make a game a failure (and he also mentioned Horizon 5's updates in a positive light, despite bashing it on launch and bashing Unbound's updates) And there's also 22:22 - 23:13 wich is perfectly explained

Honestly, he should be grateful that this game is still being updated and trying to fix what is wrong with the game. Criterion could've easily abandonded the game with no warning.

I never played multiplayer online until unbound and I love it and haven't played anything else for almost a year

Who pissed on this guys cereal lmaoo, he lives in a society

I feel like both him and you are on extreme of each side. Violet's just like, yeah this is shit. And you are like "nah game very good".

26:25 what ubisoft did with the crew 1 should be consider a war crime

Nah, the 22:09 broke me, couldn't stop laughing. "Brand new gamemodes in the game like new and better drift model and drag races and other stuff? Nah check the boucing cars, YEAAAA THATS WHAT IS NEW AND EPIC IN RACING GAMES"

He complains about a feature that he has an opportunity to have access to he litterally uploads videos. If he knew as well you can no start your own races by yourself helps the grind. Only thing i dont like was challenges to unlock cars. They could’ve easily put it behind the online level system. We go up to 250 and it takes a while i have 500+ hours online only never played multiplayer and im at the 170. Id presume somewhere here i should starting seeing the high end lambos etc. None of this being in single player sucks cause technically thats the base game and as a person who grew up in the black box era, we got everything in one package. Its sad to say seem like these days are over but i agree with him. We shouldnt have to depend on updates to get things that should’ve been there. Also i do think licensing has ruined the game(s) in general. We couldnt get audi base but 10 labos that are mixed variants was money well Spent? If you’re smart youll never buy a vert over a coupe cause verts are heavier. We dont have those shows like the magazine covers in ug2 to show off my neon hood, trunk and speakers. Its been a genuine hinderance but now they’ll use it as leverage to bring hype. Audi not in base baffles me. You cannot give a excuse that makes sense. Forza outsells this game its a shame this game 3rd party not exclusive it has a bigger pool by default. In terms of features and car selections it aint that hard as an enthusiasts to pick what we’d want. Dont get me wrong i love this game but all of this till now should have been in on release. We as an audience has lowered our standards for what a full product should contain. This game is just pocket change for EA.

Why are we wasting lung power on someone who had the wrong idea and data about the Supercar era of NFS? Also, wish i could talk to some points you make in the video podcast style

I hate all this negativity nowadays, so I’m glad someone is pushing back on it. You do agree with him on some points, so it’s not like you’re glazing Unbound entirely. UV is just so wrong, it’s funny.

What even was that tirade at the end from UV 😭😭😭 The whole video just feels like he's clouding his judgement with some personal vendetta that he has

He's actually right tho. The updates aren't for single players. Literally the only reason I bought this game is for single player, and it's trash 🤷‍♂️ if I want to play a multiplayer racing game, there's ten thousand better options than the newest NFS that's "only ok" I mean, do you remember how much people lost their minds when star wars battlefront had little to no single player? You're right that the multiplayer should be fun for people who want to play it, but the single player should be also. When I see a new NFS game, I and I bet a lot of others want something that has a very very strong single player, like the underground games or Most Wanted, and in modern gaming that should mean that the single player campaign should be awesome as fuck, AND the multiplayer is also awesome as fuck. It shouldn't be one or the other. Modern NFS games are literally defined as "only ok" that's not what we want.

John racing my beloved

I have seen both of your videos, but one thing I have to say. Most people playing NFS are trying to rediscover the magic from the offline NFS games (which I feel where UltraViolet comes from) and his POV is true that I wouldn't join the online because it is a sweaty, grindy part of the game. I think it was just that his audience was pushing him to make a revisit video and the thought of paid content just exploded to unbound. If it was Hotwheels for example, he would be on another streamer's radar. I agree with him that the prices of games are going too far. I remember paying just 70 dollars for a FULL game. Now it is 200+ for a full experience and I have to fight time FOMO to get the content. So I feel that you just cursing him out is also not fair to him.

he is more then wrong and he have have no idea what is he talking about , he talk in a way like he is right about everything when in reality he is so missinform , he makes big deal out of nothing,. criterion devs did alot for this game and listen to community , the game goes on sale for 7-8 $ on steam and much more great things. when he complains about optional things in the game like there is no tomorrow. i had to unsubscribe immediately

As someone who's played all three racing games fairly regularly, tcm is a freaken disaster rn (with the most recent update breaking everything), unbound is doing the best of a bad situation (40 employees doing nore work than a team bigger than polyphony) and forza (horizon and motorsport) is just doing stuff (nothing horridly insulting, yet nothing extremely game changing[bar a radar in forza motorsport]). I'm honestly sick of people doing these "critique" reviews, which are from people who haven't even played 50 hours (like even ign is more useful with the amount of bias seen in them imo)

took a whole year btw

Me listening to this video while playing Motorfest 😂

I think ultraviolet woke up on the wrong side of the bed today...

as someone who only plays offline I don't see your argument at all dude, he said he is only interested in Offline why you dismissing that? have you actually watched the video? He opened offline and saw nothing new whatsoever and people kept asking him to re visit it and it's empty...also about the cars and the licensing I see you skipped the part where he mentioned what FH4 and GT did with Toyota and Mitsubishi, think EA and NFS definitely will charge people for that. about the dlc you yourself literally didn't pay them then why you upset when he complains about the ridiculous prices? you know it's expensive for no reason, as he mentioned with forza you get 7 cars for the same price, don't say nfs give a car more customization and forget that in Forza car sounds changes with parts and you get interior details and some bodykits for some cars, not to mention all of that is available offline, also why 3 bodykits cost more than the base game? what's your excuse for that. why are those things just not available offline? there's no reason for that. also when you miss free new cars in the Festival playlists, you don't have to pay real money to get them next update(I know crazy right), why is that even a thing? you dropped for free and then changed your mind?! even you as a die hard fan should admit that's crappy. why don't stop playin unbound, GT7 and Forza for a year and then comeback later and tell which one has more free content.

by UltraViolet logic Gran Turismo Sport was a failure

While the decision to split multiplayer and singleplayer will always baffle me in Unbound since it was never a thing for Heat or Payback, dismissing all the gameplay modes added saying the updates are only "body kits and a couple cars" is a blatant lie born from a half assed attempt to ragebait a fanbase for ad revenue without actually doing what his channel is purposed for. Going into games and ANALYZING them as much as they can (I say that because lots of older games have non functioning online unless fan servers are made). If he genuinely didn't want to touch NFS Unbound he could've made a post on his socials, or include a snipit in his next video briefly explaining that he wouldn't touch Unbound, its not anyone was holding him at gunpoint

Having played the game at launch, and recently as well, the problem is not the features, the car list, the customization. Its the driving. Whereas I don't want to see Ashpalt levels of arcade, I don't want Horizon levels of simcade (very based arcade granted) either, and somehow, jumping cars in Horizon feels more controlable - because the physics are predictable. Cars in Unbound (apart from the Audis) genuinely don't feel like you have any control over at high speeds, and the grip/drift balacing is still very poorly integrated. Hot Pursuit is a good game. Most Wanted 2012, albeit an egregiously badly chosen name, was a good game, - especially online. Unbound? yeah, they're trying to correct things, but the core gameplay is flawed - and this is why it has failed.

Sooo, DLC's are scams now? I thought the whole point was being extra content for a game. Payday 2 has a ton of DLCs, but the base game is still perfectly playable without buying any of them, and you can buy them if you want more content. Plus, making the models themselves (without taking licencing or anything like that into account) takes developers to make. Those developers need to be paid. It wouldn't really make sense to just hand those few hundred hour development time for free Also, I'm pretty sure I could still launch up NFS MW2005, or The Run (my beloved) and still play the singleplayer just fine. Something I can't do with the Crew 1 which is now just rotting away in my Steam library because I can't play it in singleplayer. Motorfest comparison doesn't make sense when NFS games from decades ago are playable (alone) when TC1 isn't. Motorfest WILL also eventually shut down it's servers. As will Forza Horizon 5/Motorsport. As will Unbound at some point. The difference is, you will be able to play Unbound offline whenever you want. Same with Forza. Not the same with Motorfest. I will say it's BS that multiplayer content doesn't transfer over to singleplayer (maybe just for now?) so you will lose the DLC content you bought, but you will also lose EVERYTHING you spent in Motorfest for example This seems like a sizeable UltraViolet L honestly

Unrelated to video but J0hnRacing cars look amazing, especially the 180sx. But yeah UltraViolet just bashed Unbound's multiplayer for no reason. Turning an all free speedpass into a free and paid speedpass was stupid but Criterion's on a skeleton crew so it's understandable.

I like UV’s content. But I am very disappointed in him for this.

I don't play NFS but him not knowing that their updates cater to online only is actually a joke. I don't know how anyone can take him seriously after that. He's big enough into racing games that there's no excuse to not know it.

They always compare forza to nfs when they are literally diffracted games forza is a realistic sim its closer to grand tourismo nfs is an Arcade game

Oh. I don't like these kind of videos, man. Shit like this divides us. It's great that you've both got your own opinions. We all do. However throwing a video like this up is stirring the pot for... well, it seems like views. Oh well.

I will defend this game forever

Who asked?

Hello, I'm the writer of the video in question, I knew the video would be controversial but I can't say I expected a half hour response not even a day after upload! As content creators it's certainly fair enough to be held to the same standard as the media we criticise and I'll be honest, You're right about quite a few things, I do agree with a lot said and some of the facts I definitely got wrong. Though I definitely stand by a lot of the points made that you seem to disagree with. One thing I'd like to point out the was neglected in this video is the reason why I wrote the inital video in the first place, it was in response to many comments asking for a rereview of Unbound. The reason I was so harsh was because I checked what the game had been up to, to see what people were clamouring to want us to cover and I was simply appalled at how the monetisation and singleplayer abandonment was handled, and immediately wrote the script out of passion moreso, that's why a lot of my facts were off because simply as a writer I find I do my best when I'm in a sort of zone and am just purely writing without having to deviate. This of course leads to consequences such as things like missing the new game modes and such. And yes, I'll concede the last line was a bit cringe! (there was even more of that believe it or not but a lot of it was cut). This is the reason things like TC1 shutdown wasn't mentioned. Of course I'm not happy with that but it wasn't relevant as the subject of this video (though I see why bringing up TCM was a bit of a mistake in retrospect). If you'd like at all to discuss more of what I wrote, I'm more than happy to have a discussion on discord if you'd be willing

No, he's not wrong about Need for Speed Unbound Y'all just are so acceptant of garbage because you've been fucked over for 10+ years with NFS games that anything that's slightly positive looks like a holy grail

8:05 He isn't talking about the grinding though.

he literally is right in that video about singleplayer, about looking stuff online and about monetization your argumentation is horrible

Love your video keep up the good work and your amazing love you dude and you make my day love you bro and your amazing thanks for making my day brighter and better love you bro keep up the good

Ultra Violet is basically another Luke Stephens

Nah he's right

best take: all AAA modern arcade racing games are utter shit, all of them, it's fucking dead already.

The thought leader thing is wrong, usually the best video essays are someone explaining why they love something they’re passionate about, such as moses’ videos that praise the racing games he does like

Finally I was sad and thought Unbound was really going to die Thank you 🤍