Jesus Christ is risen. Hallelujah. 🙏

Here's an encouraging understanding of what happens when believers die in Jesus: they "sleep" (look up how frequently death is referred to a sleep) until the resurrection at the second coming; in this sleep there is no consciousness - of time, or of anything else - so there will be no perception of a delay between the the believer's last conscious moment and their coming awake at their resurrection. It will seem to happen in the very next moment. That's a very comforting belief!

I read alot about philosophy, and became a Christian later in life after a religious experience. Completely transformed the way I read the bible, and especially the Epistles. Not seen Tom Wright or read his books, but really like what he's saying and much of it reflects the 'knowledge' I gained/felt during my religious experience. Main thing was this knowledge that we each had a path we were to live, and that contributed to a future that God wanted, and even though we strayed, we could get back to the path. The other thing was all encompassing love of God - conversation and analysis are irrelevant compared to that love. I wrote book on this too (Christianity from the Ground Up).

God is not restrained by time and space as we are hear on earth now,when we die we will be in for a big surprises.🙏❤️

Missed this 2 weeks ago but it's great confirmation by NT Wright what the Spirit had been impressing on me about what's coming after and the confusion about the bodily resurrection and being with the Lord when our present time on earth in our "earth suit" ends. What would be good for Tom to clarify is issues of the Rapture, Tribulation and the return of the Lord Jesus and the Millennia to complete the Restoration of this fallen world.

sleep is a simple answer to this. Just sleep, rest, take a nap. You will feel refreshed when you awake. You are resting in His hands. When you die, you have died and will be raised. Why can we not just trust God even in death?

I agree with N.T. Wright that John's Gospel emphasizes new creation: 20:1 - on the first day of the week, when it was still dark (cf. Genesis 1:2-4). 20:6-7 - the arrangement of the grave clothes (cf. John 10:43-44 - Lazarus is still entangled in death, but Jesus is DONE with death), 20:15-16 (cf. Genesis 2:15) Mary thinks she is talking with the first man, but in fact she is talking to the last man; like Mark, John is glad to slyly employ irony. HOWEVER (or...in addition...), John 20:11-12 (cf. Romans 3:25 - God put Jesus forth as the hilasterion - the mercy seat, the Greek name for the lid of the Ark of the Covenant) angels at the head and feet of where Jesus's body lay suggests Jesus's body is the seat of mercy - this does have more of a forgiveness of sins/propitiatory cast.

Another great lesson Bishop Wright. I’m always impressed how so many people in the comment section are ready to correct an expert Bible scholar…

Thank

Brilliant! I need to think carefully, and review what I believe.

Have missed this interviewer he's good

This is very very interesting. But I'll need a few listens!!

Im saved, nothing else matters🎉

Love it.

2 Corinthians 5:6-8 6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: 7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) 8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

This was really interesting. First time hearing of the vindication of Jesus and the destruction of the temple. I need to get some NT Wright books.

Ignore the hapless trolls!

You do not need to believe the rapture to be saved.

even the blind man refers to the beginning. love NTW

Man, I miss Justin's and NT Wright's dialogues.

I take issue with the idea (at 2:30 in this video) that God is going to renew the existing creation, rather than take us away somewhere else. Because Jesus Himself, in John 14:1-7, tells the disciples explicitly that He is going back to God to prepare places for us in God's own house, and that He will return to fetch them and take them back there. It's pretty straightforward and difficult to misinterpret, is it not? There is no indication from Jesus in this passage that He intends to return to clean up the place where the disciples are already living. And that is the whole context for John 14:6, which is a fundamental, well-known verse quoted by almost every Christian. Or are you saying that I am misinterpreting this passage, and that I therefore have an incorrect understanding of John 14:6?

Great talk! As always a delight to listen to Dr. Wright. A small annotation I would make: In my opinion if one interprets the Son of Man title in the Gospels it is also crucial to look at later texts like 1hen in order to understand the transformation from the application of the "Son of Man" title to Israel, to the application of the title to an eschatological figure. The vindication of the Son of Man then, in my opinion, can indeed be interpreted as a visible coming as the judge of the world. But still interesting take on the temple destruction...

If when believers die, they go wherever Jesus is and there they will remain until the restoration of all things; fine. Wouldn't that mean that when Christ returns - all those with Him will also return with Him to earth?

Heavens on Earth . Michael Shermer .

Brilliant ❤

If minute 22:36 (you will see the Son on Man coming on the clouds of heaven...) is not meant to be understoond literally, how then should Matthew 23,39 (For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.) be understood?

I'm listening to this for the third time because I want to soak it all in. But right at about 4 min 30+, Dr Wright says if the man who died is a baptized believer he will be with Jesus. He can't be saying we have to be baptized to be saved, can he?? I do not believe that.

I find it intriguing that the various Christian interpreters have a tendency to identify others that do it incorrectly. Seems that is how it becomes so many denominations of Christianity rather than the one church that Christ was building. Mmmm🤔

A long, long time ago I read in "Gramophone" magazine a review of an LP of plainsong. The author said that plainsong is the music of the soul in exile from its God.

Como me gustaría ver estos valiosos videos traducidos al español. Lamentablemente no sé inglés así que no puedo aprovecharlos.

First Thessalonians 4:16 “For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. 18Therefore encourage (comfort) one another with these words.” The Thessalonian Christians understood that the Rapture of the Church saints would be BEFORE the beginning of the seven-year Tribulation period (the outpouring of God’s wrath). But in Second Thessalonians Chapter 2, they Christians were DECEIVED (by a forged letter) into believing the Tribulation began and they panicked. Paul told them that it was NOT possible. He reminded them what he told them back in his first letter to the Thessalonians. If the Thessalonian Christians were taught and believed they WOULD go through the Tribulation, they would not have panicked. They would have been HAPPY Jesus was coming soon. If it was true they MUST go through the Tribulation, Paul would have told them to be happy and endure through the Tribulation because Jesus would come afterward. Paul told them they had been DECEIVED. It was not POSSIBLE for the Christians to go through the Tribulation, like he told them in First Thessalonians. Paul did not say the apostasy and revelation of Anti-Christ takes place before the Rapture takes place. He said the apostasy and revelation of Anti-Christ is to take place before the Day of the Lord (Tribulation) begins. Bottom line: The Christians were taught they would NOT go through the Tribulation. That is why they panicked. Paul told them they were DECEIVED, and he reminded them that the Christians will NOT go through the Tribulation.

Kingdom of heaven exists only in our hearts (its not a tangible manmade kingdom, it cannot be.) until the return of Messiah Jesus! Our hope is not in this world, the world is at enmity with Messiah Jesus -ENEMIES! We are not to love this world or the things of this world, our hope is in a heavenly Jerusalem ... Jesus said his kingdom is not of this world! (John ch18 vs 36) New Yahrusalem comes down out of the heavens This world eventually passes away! This modern world is ruled by Antimessiah/Antichrist. NO MAN MADE THEOCRACY!

At 6:04, Wright conflates the Greek word for "mansion" with the Greek word for "cemetery." This, I feel, is a deliberate misrepresentation, since it's a necessary (false) pillar to bolster up further aspects of an unsound theology. Here is the entry for "cemetery" from Etymology Online--read it for yourself: cemetery (n.) "burial ground, place set aside for burial of the dead," late 14c., cimiterie, from Old French cimetiere "graveyard" (12c.), from Medieval Latin cemeterium, Late Latin coemeterium, from Greek koimeterion "sleeping place, dormitory," from koiman "to put to sleep," keimai "I lie down," from PIE root *kei- (1) "to lie," also forming words for "bed, couch." Early Christian writers were the first to use it for "burial ground," though the Greek word also had been anciently used in reference to the sleep of death. In Middle English simeterie, cymytory, cimitere, etc.; forms with cem- are attested from late 15c. An Old English word for "cemetery" was licburg (see lich (n.)). In 19c. typically a large public burial ground not attached to a church. COMPARE TO: μοναὶ (monai) Noun - Nominative Feminine Plural Strong's Greek 3438: Lodging, dwelling-place, room, abode, mansion. From meno; a staying, i.e. Residence. >After this comparison of terms, it's crystal-clear that Wright is speaking (in) error. *** In short, the body "sleeps" in the cemetery ("the wayside inn," if you will), but the rest of the person is in the immediate presence of Christ. Where is Christ? At the right hand of God. Where is God? On the throne of heaven. Simple. Jesus and the apostle Paul confirm this dynamic, or schema, in several places in The New Testament: Consider Jairus' daughter; consider Paul's words to the Thessalonians regarding those who've "fallen asleep in Christ." There are others. Don't be misled by a prolix and fast-talking man.

We also need to be assured that we will be allowed to die peacefully.

Tom is right up until minute 17. Jesus speaks a lot about people being taken and the coming like a thief in the night. Tom thinks that he has to just address the dispensational view about people being raptured, but the far more compelling view is that people are taken, but they are taken to judgement by his angelic army. Being taken is exactly what one doesnt want to happen!

Ephesians 2:6. We are made alive together with Christ, raised with him from death, and have been seated together with him in heavenly places. 2 Corinthians 5:8 speaks of a preference to be absent from the body but present with the Lord. From these verses we know that that we already have a heavenly presence in Christ which will continue when we depart from these mortal bodies. So, there is no going to heaven because we are already there in Christ, but when we die we leave this body and continue living with Christ. And Christ will dwell together with His people forever in the new heaven and new earth (Revelation 2:1-2). The new Jerusalem is described as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. A city is a dwelling place for people and the people are the temple. The language is picturesque and metaphorical, but the people and the Lord are truly the focus. They will be together and everything will be new forever.

Thinking themselves wise, they have become fools.

People try to come up with new ideas. Sometimes it’s just a difference in terms ie the “the place with no tears”… you mean heaven 😑

Well that is the claim in that old book which at best, only says a thing. WHY, think it's anything different?

How does a man rise from the dead and nobody writes about it? (outside of his small band of followers) Wouldn't this be headline news?

Of course John 3:13 No one has gone to heaven except the one who came from heaven.

If you're still confused by this endless allegorical hermeneutic mixed-metaphor word salad, read the below in the first chapter of Acts. "And THEY also said" (truthful words of unfallen, ANGELS of God)... Acts 1:11 "and they also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in just the same way as you have watched Him go into heaven.”"

Was not earth called paradise where Adam and Eve were? And Jesus never went to Paradise as he was the grave for part's of three days before ascending?

Absolute nonsense - false teaching

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The point is we are going to be where Jesus is and where is Jesus right now? What was he talking about when he said you will be with me? Clearly it’s going to heaven maybe that’s not permanent maybe there is a return to worry use of both earth and heaven, but to be in heaven with Christ, you must have some part of you that is not a physical human body. You also have Lazarus and the rich man even if it’s a pure, Jesus making the point that there is life after death outside of your body you can experience and know where you are. It’s a different location, etc. etc.. I think the church have a little bit off, but it’s clear to me, and I was raised Jehovah’s Witness, which believes none of that, that the Bible does teach some form of afterlife in heaven, even in the Old Testament. Sheol what is the destination of all of the dead good and bad and they were aware of it when they were there. NTR is a really intelligent man and I like a lot of what he says but he’s wrong on this

But the elements will melt

I read somewhere that the scriptures never say that Jesus will walk on the earth again. I am interested in knowing whether that is true.

Yes , I'm aware of this one day in the lord could be a thousand years for us humans ! However , this gospel [ the good news ) bible shows in the sayings of this Jesus was that he was going to return in the generation living THEN not NOW and that many living then would not die and still be alive to see the coming of Jesus with the angels in the clouds ! Revelation , chapter 22 simply affirms his previous promises as to his coming " SOON " ! And 1900+ years later the faithful are still waiting in vain for this event to happen !

The rapture was invented in the 1800's 😅😅😅😮😮😮

Nice try Winchester.

What we mean by that varies person to person. Mostly it’s meaningless drivel. But is appears I should’ve had someone read scripture to me with incredible background music, at least according to the ad the proceed of this. Then I could impress people with my incredible biblical knowledge.

By far, the most historically probable explanation for the empty tomb is that the Romans removed the body to fake the resurrection. Pilate, alone, had the ability to do it plus he was greatly motivated to do it. He wanted the extremely pro-Roman teachings of Jesus to continue, plus he wanted to exact revenge on the religious leaders for forcing him to murder an innocent man. Ability + Motivation = Historical Probability. The same is true in a murder case. Therefore, the Romans probably did it.

Dead set wrong about rapture sir. Elijah enock were raptured ) happezo in Greek meaning snatched away

The rapture, a 19th century doctrinal invention.

Why do my comments get deleted? Can't you tolerate an intelligent response?

Making assertions in a posh accent does not make them more likely to be true. NTW does a pretty good job of explaining what is said in the Bible but none of it is even remotely sensible.

I think NT Wright is over analyzing the bible. The bible was meant to be understood by simple persons. Keep it simple.

In Heaven there is a beautiful garden. The angels tend all the plants and the tulips last forever. Everybody will have a sunbed next to a private swimming pool.

NT Wright is smart but terribly blind.

It always astonishes me as to how seemingly intelligent and scholarly people like this can continue to assert these bronze / iron age myths , fables and shaman invented fiction stories ! And that it's considered to be real and authentic ! That anyone should take any of this Nonsense seriously is Incredible !! After all , did not this jesus promise in revelation chapter 22 , that he would be returning " SOON " ( quickly ) with he father yahwehs celestial kingdom , and repeated his promise THREE TIMES ! And that was 1900 + years ago ! This SOON is taking a LooooooooonG time for this gospel , good news to happen !

You can spiritualize the truth away, but Jesus warned everyone to repent from sin, to watch and pray always to be accounted worthy to ESCAPE all the things that are coming to pass and stand before him (Luke 21). What chance does anyone have who doesn't even believe that Jesus promised to go create a place for us in heaven then come receive us there (John 14), let alone prepare as he warned?

@ 4:37 our faith has nothing to do with Baptism! we are saved by the blood of the lamb and NOTHING else. The Death and Resurrection is the Grace that is received from belief in Christ alone. Other wise the thief on the cross would not enter as he hadn't been baptized. Baptism would steal the Glory Given to Christ for the punishment put on him for our sins. We do not need to be a "believing and baptized member of the body of Christ".

When Lord Jesus died he ceased to exist death is cessation of life he didn't go anywhere after death His life went to God not Jesus but His life, actually he died His body was in the tomb his life went to His father but after 3 days life came from father and entered the dead body of Jesus and he rose again from the dead and grave, death or cessation of life wages of sin is death our death punishment Lord Jesus took and ceseesed to exist for 3 days then when He received life from Father He lived again

It seems to me That N T Wright Has some sort of "Gnosis" or, at least esoteric Views concerning Heaven & The Rapture in particular! What Was the real Meaning behind That word-salad pontification!?? HUH!??

New Testament versions regarding the Resurrection are ambiguous at best. At most they would have been "visions" granted to the Apostle's. The idea of being carried away on cloud ascending to heaven is a fairytale. We must not take everything literally.

Paul no different than Joseph Smith; you believe it or not. Both saw a “vision” and got others to believe it. You either believe it or not. Same “evidence” for both. Word salad.

Cool, cool. Now any evidence that any of that is real?

Too much talking and not enough specific teaching. Where is your Mother Mr. Wright? This is like someone who forgot to take his ADD medication. Less is more. I would like to apologize to anyone who ever spoke with me if I never paused to listen.

I could never understand why people would base their lives on fantasy books like the bible, torah, quran or any of the other approximately 3,000 deities recorded in human history! A mental weakness...or the fear of death?

Spoiler: you cant make sense of it

There is a great book on this stuff called 'What on Earth is Heaven?' by James Paul

Using the best European and particularly British traditions of polite, soft spoken tones, Mr. Wright denigrates the reasonable, logical, scripturally based and consistent interpretation that has come to be known as Dispensational, as "crass". (This last term reveals Wright's otherwise "diplomatically" veiled abhorrence for an idea that was not even recognized as worthy of study in his own, self-elevated theological studies in university.) However quaintly, or even in microphone whispered tones one speaks, with contempt of an entire class of people and the legitimate study of Eschatology, including the doctrine of the Rapture of the Saints/Believers, it remains contempt, unsupported by full discussion of Scripture and the coherent theological doctrines to be derived in truth and in good reasoning.The majority of the Catholic and so-called Orthodox Traditions of Christianity are framed in worldly, non-Scriptural, non-Jewish centered ways, and have served as examples of distorted Bible interpretation and practices, for generations. The horrors of wasted, abused, and misled seekers of God, due to the practices and self-validating policies, of these organizations in the greater Body of those who trust in Jesus, remains remarkable in its continuing onslaught. Mr. Wright chooses to ignore the sequence of development of revelation in the Bible, from the oldest book, Job, through to Revelation. Job spoke of a day he'd see God face to face, Jesus walked and talked with Adam in Eden and promised to return, and accomplish much. In the time of God's plan and processes, He performed much through leaders of faith and trust in Him.He also achieved much personally, in special situations, with meeting with Jacob, including actual wrestling, His meeting with Joshua at Jericho, and other similar unique events. In the scripture record of God accomplishing His plans for redemption of people, He also brought Enoch to be with Him in Heaven, before Enoch would ever die. He brought Elijah to Heaven, bodily, before Elijah ever would have died. Matthew 27 clearly states that the first course of saints to be raised from the dead, happened at time of Jesus Resurrection - likely in the fulfillment of Jesus' enacting or realizing fulfillment of the foretold blessings of one of the 7 prophetic Sabbath days, or Appointment Times of God, the Feast of First Fruits. Also not referenced by Mr. Wright, from Revelation, after the "catching away" of saints/believers before the start of "the Tribulation, the great tribulation" period of eschatology, is the return of the 2 witnesses of God, to Jerusalem. Extremely clear descriptions and references to Old Testament accounts indicate these two people are very likely 2 of the people God "caught up" to heaven before their respective natural deaths - Enoch and Elijah. The World comes under the influence of secular, non-God focused cultures, as described in the dream of Nebuchadnezzar, and the interpretive dream of Daniel, with 5 specified segments, corresponding portions of the body, as revealed to Daniel. The Roman period, during which Jesus incarnation by virgin birth, in Bethlehem, had its period of influence on Jews, Judaism, in theology and practices, including the time period John recorded his vision from Jesus in Revelation. It could be frustrating or perhaps, in the extreme response, seem to be unfair, unreasonable, or even offensive, to feel one must "go back" and learn what the intricate, specific, consistent, and numerous references to Torah or Old Testament scripture and theology and practices were, in order to gain mastery and credible discourse in Bible Eschatology. That is the position where Mr. Wright and his compatriot Church organizations are. Paul is clear in the scripture passage cited by Mr. Wright. Just as Elijah raised the widow's child from the dead, and just as God made miraculous preservation of the earthly life of Noah and his immediate family, at a specific foretold time, before enacting judgment on the rest of humans, God has made clear in corroborating scripture passages, that His return to our worldly realm will be in part of his larger, global, pan-historic plan of salvation of humans, which will culminate after His millennial reign on Earth.This is a brief, informal summary of the orthodox view of the Rapture of the Saints, set in some of the many specific events included in the process from Scripture. This view of Eschatology, is not a core salvific doctrine, but it is more simple, consistent with the normal scholarly practices and procedures of rightly dividing the Scriptures. There is no call for such veiled disrespect by a prominent representative of a Christian organization, hidden in its quiet tones, and multiplied in the numerous public discourses of leaders, like Mr. Wright, to devalue and dishonor a large portion of Christians. Such behavior serves only to degrade the credibility of the Christian "witness" (from Greek "martyr"), and is more of a violation of the more central, salvific fundamental doctrines of God and from Scripture, "prove all things, hold fast to the true and the good" and "love your neighbor." Premier Unbelievable? program could have better edited or otherwise framed the recorded interview of Mr. Wright to avoid such an affront and such disrespect for a secondary, though significant doctrinal view of Scripture prophesied events. (As it is a recorded event, such correction remains easily possible.)

If I accept that why not think the same about Pinocchio, Harry Potter, Thor, etc...

That people discuss such things gives the lie to the claim of intelligence.

See Pope Benedict's Eschatology book... Has all this and more

This man is so clever to talk so much nonsense but doing it in such a way that believers are soothed and non-believers feel that they know nothing (a form of classy bullying). He is so adept at this sort of sophisticated apologetics!

Rubbish

I like Justin and think he’s an excellent host and interviewer. NT Wright, on the other hand, is the epitome of bloviation. His gentle and educated voice give the impression of authority; however, he really does talk an awful lot of nonsense

There is no god, so there is no reason to care

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How is it in this day and age that we continue to take any of these bronze / iron age myths , fables and superstitious fictional fairy tales real ! It's all NONSENSE ! Time to grow up and out of these nonsensical tales !

Perhaps a novel idea, how about we start with the resurrected? Us. But whom can we speak of as the example to follow among us after our Lord? The Saints of God are first. Which are the living ressurected Children of God. I am an Eastern Orthodox Christian and have been following the Saints in prayer and so repentance. Those who Jesus chose for us and sends the Holy Spirit to for us. And my life is resurrecting here on earth. It is being done. What else makes sense? Or has meaning unless we resurrect and live now so we might truly begin to live after all? God is life and we were and are made for eternal life. A beautiful Pascha to all.

Another millions of years subscriber. God>man. Not vice versa. C’mon Justin! Search your heart and decide whether you’re truly supporting God’s word or man’s. Happy Easter!

I would not want to be a Christian. I like to take money when I go out in case I need to buy something. (Matthew 10:9)

That is going on for 2k yrs isnt it time to reconsider that jesus is not coming back? Or worst never left therefore no one is coming back. Nice story though..

For Christiansall good things happen ‘in Jesus’. What the hell they mean by that, only they know. (And Why does god need to rescue the world that he himself has created?)

The dead are dead! Their hope, our hope is a resurrection. Didn't you hear, 'back to the dust'?

Yes god wants a repentance for sins asks you to worship him alone then changes his mind 2000 years ago 😂😂😂 co incidentally when a roman pagan comes to the throne

What a waste of oxygen. Like watching people taking about how long Harry Potter wand is, and how important harrys magic 🪄 . Is To hogworts . Grow up Justin This is white noise. NT Wright has a bad case of verbal diarrhoea