Ignition Timing For Power

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Uncle Tony's Garage

Uncle Tony's Garage

Күн бұрын

The conventional way of setting ignition timing on an engine is perfect for low performance operation, but exactly opposite of what's needed for high performance use. Here's how to mark and set yours for maximum power.

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@wedgewarrior71
@wedgewarrior71 4 жыл бұрын
How do you get a spark with the cap off?
@UncleTonysGarage
@UncleTonysGarage 4 жыл бұрын
On most setups you just go from the coil wire to ground. HEI is a little more difficult and is easiest with a second set of hands holding a wire from ground to the center post inside the cap.
@jeffreylunney3137
@jeffreylunney3137 4 жыл бұрын
The coil will fire, with your new balancer mark at 30 degrees, and the coil wire attached to coil and distributor end unhooked and place near something metal on the motor will jump the gap when the distributor body is twisted to a position where the ignition points close.
@rudyjhughes
@rudyjhughes 4 жыл бұрын
Ya I’m still confused with this, if you want it go come up on #1 plug but cap is off???? Confused
@jimjungle1397
@jimjungle1397 4 жыл бұрын
You plug the number one cylinder spark plug wire directly to the coil on one end and to a grounded spark plug on the fender, outside of the engine. Hold the rotor hard in its direction of rotation with the distributor body past firing in that direction. Then rotate the distributor body in the opposite direction of the rotor rotation until it fires a spark. To set it up, first the engine has to be on the compression stroke of number one cylinder and the distributor timing has to already be close. What I do is finger in the number spark plug hole and rotate the crankshaft until there is pressure (compression). Then set the balancer timing at 10 or 12 degrees before top dead center. With the distributor cap in place and ignition on, rotate the distributor in the opposite direction of rotor rotation, (or just back and forth for a rough position) until there is spark at number one wire on an open spark plug. After that rough setting, turn off ignition, pull the cap, plug spark plug wire directly into the coil, the rotate balancer to full ignition advance mark before top dead center (must be measured and added), then with ignition on, hold rotor hard in direction of rotation, rotate distributor body in same direction first, then in the opposite direction until there is spark.
@501isa
@501isa 4 жыл бұрын
@@rudyjhughes you are feeding a spark plug from the wire that would normally go to the centre of the cap and triggering the coil off the points in the base of the distributor.
@stanglincoln1659
@stanglincoln1659 4 жыл бұрын
You're one of the most knowledgeable car guys that I've ever seen I remember 33 years ago you were the first one to tell people where to set timing on a 5 liter Mustang
@needmetal3221
@needmetal3221 4 жыл бұрын
Yes he is.
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds about right. Im still stuck on those Fox fuelies. Lol.
@stanglincoln1659
@stanglincoln1659 4 жыл бұрын
@@hotrodray6802 you're not the only one
@bobmeyer7009
@bobmeyer7009 3 жыл бұрын
I like your "old school" approach! I've been working on cars for over 50 years and have used almost all, if not all of your methods. FWIW, I scrapped a $1200 custom electronic ignition and went back to points because of reliability issues. The engine is just as happy with points, and it doesn't suddenly quit and leave me stranded!
@arthurmoore1524
@arthurmoore1524 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh.... I'm a young man, I know about points, but HEI is where it's at.... Remember back in the day, everyone used to carry spare points in their glove box? You know.... incase THOSE POINTS went out while you were out lol I carry a spare coil and module and cap in my classic and all the stuff needed to change out these parts. change them out like a set of points on the side of the road if need be... I've yet to have to use my spare ignition parts because hei is so dependable and on the money all the time. My secret? Buy the cheapest distributor in the jegs book if it's GM make sure it takes a 4 pin style module. Then.... Buy another one. Rob all the parts out of it.... CARRY THEM IN YOUR TRUNK OR GLOVE BOX Last time I bought one one was 79.95$ and it was 120$ at my local orielly for a cap, module and coil. YUCK. You get to keep the extra body incase your shaft bearing starts to go bad or something happens to your housing, AND you get all the parts to rebuild the one in your car at a cheaper price. EXTRA CREDIT : Since the housing and internal bearing never hardly go bad... take that spare body and build a tuned distributor. One with very high out put, light springs, and all the fixins... Then when it's time for a tune up, drop it in... enjoy....
@DavidPruitt
@DavidPruitt 2 жыл бұрын
If points were more reliable than electronic ignition you were doing something seriously wrong. Points you've gotta deal with every oil change. I never had an electronic ignition system that went less than 60k miles before a failure, and that was the distributor shaft wearing out.
@theondebray
@theondebray Жыл бұрын
Well I have electronic points, & carry a spare unit. If it fails, its a case of undo one screw, remove & refit new one, now adjustments required. They are magnetically operated, so no heel wear or timing changes. To hell with points.
@jayski8987
@jayski8987 Жыл бұрын
And don’t forget to carry a pack of matches in your glove box to set your point gap
@nickking1510
@nickking1510 3 жыл бұрын
Much respect from Ontario Canada . Many years back when I was in school and worked for a gm dealership a mechanic who used to drag race taught me how to make power old school timing exhaust carbs and using a vacuum gauge Back then we made tons of power with minor mods and calibration. I became the qjet expert .They were great street carbs once you understand them and super reliable as well a great on gas
@jamesbetts3371
@jamesbetts3371 3 жыл бұрын
something you might want to mention about static timing an engine is it works with points but not on capacitive discharge ignitions and I believe on multiple spark ignition systems. It helps when you have everything in place battery, coil, ballast resister plugs etc. along with a distributor with a cap and rotor. really enjoy your videos keep them coming stay safe.
@cpnms5
@cpnms5 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, my pop said when he was in high school in the 60s, he would bump the timing up on his 55 chevy, then go lay a patch, the longest patch is where the timing was left lol.
@strikeforcek9149
@strikeforcek9149 4 жыл бұрын
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@strikeforcek9149
@strikeforcek9149 4 жыл бұрын
How I set timing: rev that bitch up until it's at the absolute highest rpm I can get it WITHOUT pinging/detonation.
@strikeforcek9149
@strikeforcek9149 4 жыл бұрын
@living in a desert it depends on the engine, but it typically sounds like one of a couple things: It'll sound like a a knocking of sorts, that happens at random in different places/different cylinders. You'll know it different from engine knock from a rod or etc, because those stay knocking at only 1 cylinder/area of the engine. It can also sound like "pinging", kinda like if something tapped a hollow portion of your engine head and it had a short ring to it, but at various cylinders and etc. Kinda like Ping-Ping-PingPing-Ping--Ping. (Hopefully that kinda explains it a little better)
@richardtheturd1891
@richardtheturd1891 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who actually speaks English on this timing subject, cheers uncle tony!
@SPEEDOFDOG
@SPEEDOFDOG 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone goes in-depth on timing thank you Tony!
@greatdane145
@greatdane145 Жыл бұрын
But gets the measurement wrong …
@ryandavis7593
@ryandavis7593 4 жыл бұрын
I got a book years ago(centuries) that I think was put out by Mallery all about timing and ignition. I read it repeatedly. It went over nearly everything you said. Since then I have never had difficulty timing engines. I don’t like vacuum advance, to each their own.
@andrewcavers1399
@andrewcavers1399 3 жыл бұрын
I miss those days , nice refresher thanks for your time
@crazycoffee
@crazycoffee 4 жыл бұрын
Just woke up after hiking all day yesterday. Im happy to wake up to an uncle tony video. Keep it up
@moparedtn
@moparedtn 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, talk about ironic - I was just experimenting with this exact thing yesterday on my own 440. I don't have any fancy measuring devices, so I used a piece of paper to transfer the timing marks off the front of the engine to the stock harmonic balancer. Not even kidding.... and it worked, just like Tony shows here with his caliper thingy. I had two distributors that I wanted to choose from and was able to compare the two's performance easily doing this - there was quite a bit of difference in each one's built-in advance. In the end, the DC/Mopar Performance distributor won and the stock one lost and was relegated to the parts bin. Once again, VERY practical lessons being taught here at UTG! You can do exactly what he shows here easily, without a bunch of fancy tools or high tech equipment. Thanks as always, Tony. -Ed on the Ridge
@HunterNapier
@HunterNapier Жыл бұрын
That initial timing trick with the spark is freaking GENIUS dude.
@electrix6751
@electrix6751 4 жыл бұрын
@4:15 Uncle Tony said: _"'Why don't you use timing tape?'" Because timing tape doesn't stay on forever."_ The trick to prevent timing tape from flying off is a) make sure you have an extremely clean surface on the damper before you stick it on, and b) once on, take a can of Krylon CLEAR spray paint (or other brand), and spray over the timing tape. *Once again: The key to prevent timing tape from loosening up and flying off is a **_very_** clean surface; that means NO grease, NO oil and NO rust on the harmonic balancer (aka damper) before you apply the timing tape then a shot of Krylon clear paint over it to seal the tape to the damper.*
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable 4 жыл бұрын
It is best to paint your entire engine bay with clear coat. Eliminates corrosion. Helps hold things in place. Makes wiring last forever. And oh man is it a joy to work on pater. Rinse it off and she’s clean.
@lilo2469
@lilo2469 4 жыл бұрын
Red Green always used Duct Tape😉
@philipmazzuca2269
@philipmazzuca2269 4 жыл бұрын
Use the timing tape then take a hacksaw and cut your marks into it using the tape and a guide. Any performance engine should not have a factory damper anyway.
@jhammy444
@jhammy444 4 жыл бұрын
@@philipmazzuca2269 You make a really good point here. Some of the old 60's and 70's dampers were pretty good for not spinning and being factory accurate. The later shit was literally made with not much better than spray foam. The balancer could be out by 4 to 8 degrees new. I remember back in the early 90's setting total timing on a 403 Olds motor and I'd lock down the distributor, rev the engine up a couple of times and the timing had changed. I thought the distributor was somehow turning. Took me a bit to figure out the outer ring of the damper was spinning on the rubber. So, I agree buying a good damper is cheap insurance in my opinion.
@philipmazzuca2269
@philipmazzuca2269 4 жыл бұрын
Hammy- Agreed
@christopherpoucher483
@christopherpoucher483 9 ай бұрын
I watched all your videos on timing and finally bought a dial back light, set it to 35° total 350 chevy and it runs way better switched to ported vacuum and adj the can. It completely woke it up!
@mitchelllight4085
@mitchelllight4085 2 жыл бұрын
This kind of knowledge isn't learned in a week. This is gold wish I would have known a few of these tricks back 15 yrs ago
@brianb5779
@brianb5779 4 жыл бұрын
9 sec street car BBF 466cu w minor mods loved 28inital w 36 total on the dizzy. Beautiful throttle response on the street w a 1050dominator. Nice to see someone who understands all this put it out there, so many guys dont know how to tune for power and cant tell them squat. Love your vids man,,,
@nomadicconquistador7-5-39
@nomadicconquistador7-5-39 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother you really know your stuff. My 1956 ford vanette step van has a 352 fe with a 2bbl carb. I had a difficult time getting my fuel mixture right. Your video was very helpful. Thanks hope all is well on your end with covid-19 stay safe now.
@Muttleytech
@Muttleytech 4 жыл бұрын
That's interesting because I found the same thing using an advance light. Always seemed four degrees off. Then my dad showed me the caliper method. I learned on an old Buick about points systems and timing. Loved it!
@Muttleytech
@Muttleytech 4 жыл бұрын
@billyfromtheusa It's transferring the timing cover marks onto the harmonic balancer using the calipers in increments to go beyond what the factory mark will show off idle with a timing light to get a total advance reading. He showed this in his video with bottle rocket. I used this method on the Buick 430 as it ran manifold vacuum and not ported like the later 455.
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 4 жыл бұрын
Numbers are fine place to start, but But Actual power production dictates the actual setting for YOUR COMBINATION.
@tonywaters1374
@tonywaters1374 4 жыл бұрын
From one Tony to a other, thank you for putting up these videos and sharing your knowledge and experiences. Please keep doing it. And by the way, your right, there are very few individuals out there (speaking automotive) that have channels dedicated to this discipline. Thanks!
@kkyler9582
@kkyler9582 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video explaining total advance. I know there is a debate on full manifold versus timed versus no vacuum advance. The answer is they are all correct depending on your engine setup and most importantly what you plan to do with your car. If you are running a stock engine and only care about initial timing say at 10 degrees, then hook up that vacuum canister. It won’t hurt a thing and will help with engine idle. If you are running a mildly modified or high performance engine, then you will be better off working with total timing in the 32 to 36 degrees range. Uncle Tony hits the nail on the head when he talks about running total timing with full vacuum advance. The engine will miss fire and sputter at mid or half throttle because the timing will be way too advanced. He is also right when he talks about opening the idle mixture screws more as a possible remedy. This will work sometimes but the consequences is a rich running engine at idle that will run you out of your garage or shop and eventually foul plugs. So, disconnect that thing when running total timing or plug into the timed vac port on your carb. Your engine will thank you! Great work UT! You da man! K Roush.....
@Nick-jr6qe
@Nick-jr6qe 3 жыл бұрын
I mean this guy is golden! He backs up every single thing he says with proven examples and not a bunch of bullshit talk.
@edjacques3118
@edjacques3118 Жыл бұрын
You have some awesome old school advice, my friend!! I grew up in a time where i welded up the advance in the distributor to limit the total timing. , file to suit,. 12 initial plus 22-24 centrifugal was fairly accurate. I’m showing my age and your vids are enjoyed.!!!
@tommycanovan5892
@tommycanovan5892 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos help alot to someone learning as I go. Every video packed with info love it. And badass cars
@UnityMotorSportsGarage
@UnityMotorSportsGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Folks... Listen up !!! The info he gave here is priceless! Having a instant light off .. on a Flat tappet cam is CRITICAL!!!
@1brasov
@1brasov 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I needed to set total advance on my 009 VW. Thank You!
@muskyelondragon
@muskyelondragon 4 жыл бұрын
I have had both a timing light and a timing tape failure as well. Expensive and lasting lessons.
@termonostruman
@termonostruman Ай бұрын
i have a detonation sensor.. good luck
@martinblackburn2723
@martinblackburn2723 4 жыл бұрын
i like that you still use accel supercoil and thanks for these amazing tips
@01trsmar
@01trsmar 4 жыл бұрын
I like these types of videos...keep them coming!
@cfmechanic
@cfmechanic 4 жыл бұрын
This here is the timing video I have been waiting for thanks again tony
@steveedwards1072
@steveedwards1072 4 жыл бұрын
Great info as always. Thanks Uncle Tony and Uncle Kathy.
@timrayburn2461
@timrayburn2461 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation Tony. In my 66 years I have seen many burnt pistons caused by people not understanding The correct way to set total timing.
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 4 жыл бұрын
UT didnt explain that. He told us how to fire off initially. Setting you real world timing is slightly more involved.
@termonostruman
@termonostruman Ай бұрын
@@hotrodray6802 true, they keep not understand the whole thing.
@terrycullender123
@terrycullender123 4 жыл бұрын
The force is strong with this one!
@brocluno01
@brocluno01 4 жыл бұрын
All good and you made it clear that "Performance" engines can get away with just mechanical advance. They are not meant to get gas mileage necessarily ... Mild street engines that haul the family around need the vacuum too. Good tip on fattening the low speed circuit to get away from lean burn and stratified charge issues at high vacuum cruise :)
@pauldenick1830
@pauldenick1830 4 жыл бұрын
Another great episode from UTG. I love how U explained the negative comments from the peanut gallery before they had a chance to type them in. Awesome job with explainingTony and great job with the video Kathy. Can't wait to see how bottlerockets progressing and what happened to her trans.
@forrestcowan448
@forrestcowan448 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent way of explaining it spot on like the way u mark the dampner
@needmetal3221
@needmetal3221 4 жыл бұрын
I've marked these things for people by putting them on an indexer on a bridge port mill. Does a nice job.
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын
That's something I'd pay for, for sure!
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 4 жыл бұрын
Thunderhead289 vs uncle tonys garage on carbureted engine tech!!
@UncleTonysGarage
@UncleTonysGarage 4 жыл бұрын
We may be the only guys out there really hitting it hard.
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 4 жыл бұрын
Uncle Tony's Garage everyone’s hates us lately for this that or the other thing
@tattmanndann
@tattmanndann 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThunderHead289 not me, i love the info you share.
@joesmuckatelly8282
@joesmuckatelly8282 4 жыл бұрын
College verses high school my money on uncle tony he can send them iowa kids back to school
@UncleTonysGarage
@UncleTonysGarage 4 жыл бұрын
@thunderhead289 My friend, think of the haters as a gift....a sign of your success. Nobody pays attention to people who don't make an impact. You're doing great
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 4 жыл бұрын
Great points UT, especially on unverified dial-back lights, very well said as they can be unstable. I'd like to add, don't trust marks left by others, I've experienced situations where a motor ran like crap but good enough to pass apparently b/c the guy who marked the damper accidentally marked it twice with 2nd mark being accidental paint drip. Then set timing to the accidental mark. (Doh!) Deep boat bilge and salt-rusted damper but almost by luck I noticed the two paint marks. I'd suspected something was wrong just by listening to the motor idle, the timing sounded off and looked into it. So I encourage others experiment with igniton timing a little to gain experience and listen closely. Small tweeks can improve things like drivability, etc.
@thrrsn350
@thrrsn350 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clearing up some terms for a newbie! Great vidya!
@1234Testicle
@1234Testicle 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony. Another great video.
@Holtiton83
@Holtiton83 4 жыл бұрын
Hey uncle Tony, please tell us kids a bed time story on how to read plugs in depth. Thanks, this is great channel.
@oldsjetfire8975
@oldsjetfire8975 2 жыл бұрын
Been playing with engines a long time and not one time did I ever think of holding the shaft and turn the body till it sparks. GREAT IDEA!!!!
@termonostruman
@termonostruman Ай бұрын
well if it sparks and cilibder has gas inside you may end in the garden of the lost ones....
@TravisTellsTruths
@TravisTellsTruths 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. I'm going to learn this. I'm working on putting in my own HHO system and then advance the total timing on this 1998 test Toyota Camry.
@larrymitchell4124
@larrymitchell4124 3 жыл бұрын
Man Tony you sir are a lost art you just can’t find engine tuners like your self any more
@robbyddurham1624
@robbyddurham1624 3 жыл бұрын
thanks, I've been needing this and didn't want to be one of those guys that didn't do his research before asking...
@thedobermangang3503
@thedobermangang3503 3 жыл бұрын
this guy is a smart mechanic good video my brother
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable 4 жыл бұрын
If your real good in a first timing you can set to timing mark and turn the distributor til you hear the spark. Much love tony. Keep me interested in my projects. I’m grateful for that. Without enjoyment life ..... Ain’t good
@artjones2498
@artjones2498 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid tony.....as always...spot on info.....
@77chevy4x4
@77chevy4x4 2 жыл бұрын
Ty Tony a year later video in Tony’s English is perfect. Ty . Big block Chevy had a set advanced setting. Tutorial was awesome.
@benjaminperez8609
@benjaminperez8609 2 жыл бұрын
Thank for your videos I have a dart and all this help me a lot!!
@1961kickboxer
@1961kickboxer 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are really interesting even though I’m running a big 4 pot lump.
@robertgalvin7081
@robertgalvin7081 4 жыл бұрын
You, Tony are a Genius!
@jameswhitaker163
@jameswhitaker163 10 ай бұрын
Best timing video EVER ! Thanks for that
@bradyhicks1381
@bradyhicks1381 4 жыл бұрын
Keep feathering it brotherman 🐔🔥
@lenkowalyshen9571
@lenkowalyshen9571 4 жыл бұрын
Good job Tony.........lot's of good advice here
@PanjiThame
@PanjiThame Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony. This is a great video.
@MrPublicPain
@MrPublicPain Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the hex key mention!
@6t9customs
@6t9customs 4 жыл бұрын
Uncle Tonya garage laying down some knowledge while im in the garage rebuilding my 429 bbf for my 69 tbird 👌
@shaggydogg3786
@shaggydogg3786 4 жыл бұрын
Good tutorial Uncle Tony.
@killeruchiha24
@killeruchiha24 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I really enjoy the material 👌🙌👍😎
@notsure3640
@notsure3640 Жыл бұрын
Great channel. Got a hold of an 85 mustang this spring. The first thing to go was the electronic ignition.
@CathalCoolkirky
@CathalCoolkirky 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great "tech tip" video - I like the part of the video at the end moving the disty to get a spark at max timing. Great idea - thanks again.
@johndifranco5315
@johndifranco5315 3 жыл бұрын
Timing is everything Thanks Tony for your educational videos It's got a 360ci 1941 D19 Luxury liner / 6 passenger coupe [All MOPAR] Edelbrock Performer THANKS Timing and Tune up is next
@dln8393
@dln8393 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks Tony! Gonna go set up my 350 c10
@davidwright873
@davidwright873 3 жыл бұрын
So i just built a 351w for my 70 mustang....Im still running the break in oil for the first 500 miles..that's how new it is...I drove it today...man, rich, timing off...everything...Now i can pull it in the garage and confidently do it my self...thanks to Tony and Thunderhead...You guys are the bomb!!
@matt_1969ChevyC1o
@matt_1969ChevyC1o 4 ай бұрын
ATI dampeners are not cheap, but the 360 degree timing marks are worth every penny. Totally agree on the dial back lights being inaccurate. Threw mine out as well. Static light and 360 timing marks are the way to go. Thanks for another great video
@markt9438
@markt9438 Жыл бұрын
That was a good tip on manually opening the weights on your rotor for maximum advance
@connorwilson8696
@connorwilson8696 4 жыл бұрын
perfect timing.. messing around with my mopar electronic distributer right now.
@tarstarkusz
@tarstarkusz 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing! I was just about to tune up my engine.
@stratznhatz
@stratznhatz 4 жыл бұрын
Me too, Uncle Tony is not just an ace mechanic, he's psychic as well!
@bladeslicemaster5390
@bladeslicemaster5390 4 жыл бұрын
You mean Perfect "timing", lol
@Chriscarnes1619
@Chriscarnes1619 Жыл бұрын
Great content brother
@Pork-Chopper
@Pork-Chopper 2 жыл бұрын
I made my own marks using masking tape. Put the masking tape on top of the timing tab, mark the lines, they are 2° apart then put the masking tape on the damper. Kinda like using timing tape, then use a marker to mark the damper up to 40°. On my small block n big block Chevy, full advance running the engine using a timing light, hit on 36° full advance, which was coincidentally at about the 12 o'clock position on the damper. I used a medium n light spring on the HEI distributor. Both engines run great! Great drivability, and good getup n go when I need it. Passing gear kicks in good n hard n works great as well.
@bshnabel
@bshnabel 2 жыл бұрын
Good and detailed video, thank you
@DayRider76
@DayRider76 4 жыл бұрын
On my pontiac, I don't use the vac advance and have modified weights, so setting the timing for me is setting it as advanced as possible without having a miss at idle! And boom, it's perfect.
@Nt0759
@Nt0759 2 жыл бұрын
having a lean miss with my holley at part throttle, never thought to look at my vacuum advance on my dizzy. Thanks! I'll look at that first then the fuel aspect again.
@joe-hp4nk
@joe-hp4nk 4 жыл бұрын
You're right about every engine is different, the efficiency of the combustion chamber makes a big difference. Back in the day chambers were not as efficient as todays engines thus needed way more total advance ie low 40s for max power.
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 4 жыл бұрын
👍 60s SBF needed 42-45. Some 429s needed 48.
@superrodder2002
@superrodder2002 4 жыл бұрын
One thing I would add is to check the stock damper to make sure your "0" Mark is where it's supposed to be. I have found a few Ford and Gm dampers that the Mark was off by noticeable amount. Also when building an engine from random parts this needs to be checked because over the years the factory marks were located in different spots. So a timing cover or pointer from a '67 could be in a different spot then in '71. And this can make setting timing a nightmare unless you check this carefully when building the engine. Or when trying to figure out why an engine runs poorly when timed by the marks .
@dh2360
@dh2360 4 жыл бұрын
Gold UTG, this is gold!
@TargaWheels
@TargaWheels 4 жыл бұрын
I tried making marks by measuring half way around which is 180 degrees. Half of that is 90 degrees, half of that is 45....and keep halfing/marking it until you get the range of marks you want. And that would work with any diameter damper/balancer. Just have to make sure the outer damper didn't spin on on the rubber ring previously.
@eagleeye9549
@eagleeye9549 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, that was a very good video bud!
@moparmatt5896
@moparmatt5896 4 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for the next one
@79tazman
@79tazman 4 жыл бұрын
I just use Timing Tape on my stock damper I put it on when I rebuilt the engine and it still on there and works great or if you buy a aftermarket damper it will have the timing marks right on it
@NebukedNezzer
@NebukedNezzer 4 жыл бұрын
great information.
@gordo4044
@gordo4044 4 жыл бұрын
Good video!!
@howabouthetruth2157
@howabouthetruth2157 4 жыл бұрын
Tony, you probably get sick & tired of me repeating the following, but it's true: Both you and "My Vintage Iron" ( channel ) are hands down the best 2 teachers on youtube.......barr none. Plus, both of you guys work more with the classic, older stuff. I meet young mechanics all too often who don't even know how to work on drum brakes, lol.........and forget about carbs. If it ain't EFI, they're totally lost.
@71wicker
@71wicker 4 жыл бұрын
UT. Whhoooo!! I got it and do it with my cars, but you just made some run for the Xanax bars!!!
@bladeslicemaster5390
@bladeslicemaster5390 4 жыл бұрын
Thank's for using the actual damper and cover with those marks... I learn best by seeing and not by hearing a lot of talk.
@frankjames5515
@frankjames5515 4 жыл бұрын
Well done, thanks.
@ovreazy3731
@ovreazy3731 4 ай бұрын
You explained it perfectly
@jon-christiankaczor5384
@jon-christiankaczor5384 4 жыл бұрын
This has always been gospel to me for the past 30 years I've been working on and building engines and any mouth breathers that try and say otherwise are nitwit keyboard warriors
@bertramlrezenet9311
@bertramlrezenet9311 10 ай бұрын
Sometimes I wish I could jump in the video and help you explain some concepts. I trained Auto-Diesel Tech for thirty five years during the muscle car era. In order to do power timing with certain degree of accuracy, you best have access to a chassis dyno and the proper test equipment. Power time a stock engine at peak torque rpm under load was best practice at the time. A modified engine is best power timed on an engine dyno. Although it can be done if you have proper component specs. You can still semi-power time an engine under no load, by moving the distributor until you achieve best vacuum at peak torque rpm and go from there. I have a question: how lean is too lean? During the early 70's, while doing R&D work, I had carburetor curves set at 21:1 at cruising speeds and with the proper engine timing. I know you were trying to show how to "static time" an engine. I think it would have made more sense to the viewers if the distributor cap had been on the distributor and at least #1 cble had been on the cap Keep up the good work! It's fun and instructional watching your videos. Cheers!
@lebaroncars
@lebaroncars 4 жыл бұрын
Good video , never built compete race engines , but for the standard engine tuned it by ear , slight cam changes the marks some does it not , anyway , slight ping when hitting it , back it off till none , and your done , quite an educational video keep them coming .
@connorwilson8696
@connorwilson8696 4 жыл бұрын
looking forward to the curving the distributer vid.. my mopar distributer is adjustable it seems, slots and screws to adjust how far it will advance i think.. rather then having to weld the slots like most others i see
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 4 жыл бұрын
🔔😎 Didja ever notice all the big name hot shots doing that first crank and then trying to turn the distributor to get their creation to run?? Ya, meee too. Drives me crazy. Good job UT.👍👍 Simple and effective explanation. 😎😎😎🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@jensenwilliam5434
@jensenwilliam5434 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@HamiltonSRink
@HamiltonSRink Жыл бұрын
Quite good information!
@moparmatt5896
@moparmatt5896 4 жыл бұрын
I liked that. Good 💡
@rattle-can-resto5893
@rattle-can-resto5893 4 жыл бұрын
I can agree with this video. Setting up the curve and tuning the distributor should be good video.
@jimjungle1397
@jimjungle1397 4 жыл бұрын
I use the static method to set initial timing and to break in the camshaft and engine. I use a timing light to set total mechanical timing at high RPM. Most stock distributor springs won't allow the full total timing of the weights at any RPM, but after market, high performance quick advance springs do, as they reach total timing at a much lower RPM, often making the factory vacuum advance unusable at part throttle and left sealed off.
@KingJT80
@KingJT80 4 жыл бұрын
thast why you need an adjustable advance to limit it
@deerslayer5863
@deerslayer5863 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on
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