The animators get a a lot of practice

@Joe Bauers haha I'm sure USCSB would put out a video on it but who would make it?

@@david-stephenmyles9539 the intern Pete could do up a quick flip book.

@Joe Bauers I want the USCSB to do an investigation of the KyoAni fire

Yes, save his voice now to use when time goes by..! And the animators could do their own game of safety. Gta or sims style.

Yeah, the last ~2 minutes of the video was the most professional way of saying "hey assholes, we told you over 15 years ago something like this would happen, are you going to listen to us now?"

Yaaaas!

Y'know, sometimes I feel like the USCSB needs an anger translator. For those... ahem... 'stubborn' plant owners?

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@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 enforcement wing

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I ain’t even in this profession, safety is safety and I like the animation and narrator.

An unfortunately common problem with mills like this. The Fox River Valley has been dealing with this stuff, and the polluting results for almost a century now.

This wasn’t quite so easy as a single guy not doing his job. Lets also not forget about the “you can’t do that - it’s MY job” problem created by strictly divides union environments that also make people afraid to know things outside their area - creating dangerous solos of knowledge and responsibility.

Safety is everybodies job

More of a, no one knows who job it is. Then it becomes not my problem.

Which can be easily solved by upper management stepping in and just making a decision. 3 innocent people were killed by office politics.

I initially thought you said Polish (Poland)

@@homefront3162 The Polish are amazing 😀

I got your polish right cheer buddy.

Sometimes I polish my pollish.

You notice too,new tech is not 20 years anymore New software so many waiting an received Sim airplane simulator

Really goes to show that you need to do your job correctly. Like you said, the case isn't usually that all the fault falls on one person, but any one of the people involved with the failures more than likely could have prevented these accidents.

@@l0os176 complex system are almost always in failure mode, but because there are systems to handle failure, they can still mostly work, catastrophes happen when multiple failures combine in an unpredicted way.

It's about what's called hidden stories, where yes a trigger did cause the accident, but other factors made the trigger more likely, and can extend to inefficient computer control and alert systems

Correct in my experience. I'm not involved in anything near as interesting as the subject matter of most UCSB videos, but every accident, mishap, whatever can usually be traced back to multiple failed systems.

Well it's normally one error that ends up leading to multiple errors because of the first one. While we humans are very very good at trying to think of everything....we still make mistakes. It is very unfortunate but today we get to believe we will 100% be safe at work every day and we will always get to go home at night as long as we follow all the guidelines. Back in the day....companies used to predict how many employees would die before a job would be completed....it wasn't a if....it was a "well lets see how many die this time...maybe instead of 30 we can only lose 29 this time..." These freak accidents are the very few things that we don't think of or are easily overlooked. Fortunately(and unfortunately) when these accidents do occur....it further increases future generations safety at the job site. Millions have died in the past for us to be as safe as we are today.

When the CSB posts, suddenly the air smells fresher. Grass looks greener. I hear birds chirping. The sun comes out and I bask in the warmth.

Csb vids naturally align my chakra through the vibration of the explosions. Namaste

CSB videos cured my cancer and my male pattern baldness.

Yep, it doesn't matter the industry corporations will do anything to save money if it means putting their workers at risk or if it means breaking the law.

@@blackhatfreak Weren`t even workers in this case.

There is no way possible to monitor the millions of industrial businesses in the US and the biggest problem is there is a ton of inefficiency in the government, there needs to be some major restructuring done to eliminate the overlap. There is an old saying that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing and that's the government for you. Rather than regulations, there needs to be stricter penalties and even prison time for offenders, that would do a whole lot more to reduce accidents.

@@4nciite They don't have safety inspector on facility, right?

@@4nciite safety is your responsibility alone, once you stop relying on others to keep you safe and look out for your self you will be a whole lot more safer.

I wonder why in murica the safety standards didn't apply for the given tank, when it clearly should have. Obviously a deadly oversight/failure by the responsible government and/or the safety agencies which provide intelligence to the responsible legislative.

whats worse is all the safety agencies rules weren't really being broken yet this still happened to create an incredibly UNSAFE working environment. almost as if having a proactive rather than reactive safety governing body is part of the actual solution to stopping avoidable tragedies like this form ever occurring again.....

@@moos5221 well it did apply to that tank, they were just followed at a less than optimal degree of effectiveness & yielded a subpar result. aka blowing up, going into low earth orbit and, causing about ten casualties in total.

@@moos5221 & it's like that all across North America, and not just in the states. I mean shit, it's like that all over the world. wherever there is industry, there are people either not properly following or just totally disregarding safety rules, regulation & protocols in the pursuit of maximum profit. it is the biggest weak point of the current capitalistic system. and yes, I know, nobody has genuine capitalism, that however is both far too technical and unrelated to be mentioned in this comment.

see what you're really doing is a true big brain play. if you stand next to them, you die with them and wont have to deal with the repercussions and or guilt from having messed up.

It wouldn't be the first time they did that. I'd imagine these people have pretty thankless jobs, so they got jokes

Meme citation needed.

Secret Tesla Spacex Plant

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thought about a childhood moment shooting paper footballs between finger goals.

This is common, and usually decided by a risk analysis. Early on they said the content was mostly water, and the flammable gas would be minimal if operated according to their design. This would make the tank a low risk system and therefore not worthy of increased monitoring. The problem was introduced when changes to their procedures were not controlled, ie no one purged the turpentine. This doesnt seem like a design problem to me, it seems more like a change control issue...

​@@KeissRandomKeissenor rather than change control, simply verifying procedures? Perhaps you are saying the same thing in different words. Regardless, FMEA should have shown that procedural deviations could expose workers to increased hazards. A simple mitigation would be to verify purging (or another name for getting rid of the excess turpentine) procedures had been followed prior to issuing hot work permits. I agree it's not an engineering design issue, but some of these procedures could be redesigned for increased documentation and verification before hot work/other hazardous activities. If it is low risk only when x activity happens, then x activity must be monitored and verified.

Literally what I'm dealing with right now....

"Let's all meet by the mystery tank"

It was the hidden engineering behind location of the tank supports :P Marvel only to be seen in its parting moments.

This was a planned explosion the tank is a paid actor.

intentional design

KZfaq rigs it with a bunch of party poppers... "The detonation occured because documentation funding was requested, but turned down in 2019. At hundreds of inches a second, The paper expanded, potentially injuring the eyes."

Or "hot work"

...then go to work drunk at your job of industrial plant safety engineer and end up in one of these videos, right?

Literally said it as I read this comment

@@samneal7679 no fun allowed, no jokes allowed on the internet

Do that and your stomach will become a foul condensate tank lol.

This is a old vid just re uploaded

Parts of this video are from an earlier video, but more information has been added from the investigation.

JHlc alright that makes sense I thought it was a little different but I definitely recognized it

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Have the virus you're just being a hypochondriac LOL that's the way he always sounds and like somebody said this is no video I just never seen this one before sorry for the people who lost their life

These videos show a negativity bias, because they are only supposed to show when things go wrong. Which is not to say the videos are not very helpful, and that hot work is not dangerous. I just don't want people to be biased into thinking that all hot work is going to create explosions, or something.

@@LeafseasonMagbag Workers in general and specially welders should be taught to be wary of possible combustible presence in their surroundings. If that is not considered ANY hot work could cause and explosion.

@@LeafseasonMagbag Yes, but these videos demonstrate the fact these story's are highly under reported in terms of how mismanaged things were in places where it could of easily been fixed. The same with the rules in place and how lives could of been saved if slight changes and enforcement were made. Things like these should make fundamental changes in the industry and with the rule books, but its rarely enforced or resolved. Which is why as much as the majority of welders doing contract work get along fine, they shouldnt ever once consider the idea something could blow up due to negligence and mis communication. Sort of like in the aviation industry, it's only highly regulated there because of civilian liability, which then trickles down to worker safety aswell. It should be here for these industrys but it's not, especially for the low class workers.

@@LeafseasonMagbag Yes; learning about welding by watching USCSB videos is like learning about drinking by hanging out in AA meetings. Not false, but obviously biased towards bad outcomes.

@@bcubed72 Utter nonsense! Your approach is part of the problem with low safety standards rather than the solution raising standards

Tbh I'd watch a show where they investigate instances where *buildings can go flying,* that's much more exciting than whatever new "csi ___" is coming out now

These guys also get right to the point unlike Seconds to Disaster

You just nailed it why I liked this so much! I wasn't able to exactly put my finger on it.

@@forceawakens4449 I mean, "Seconds to disaster" wad a TV show and had to make the cases long enough to fit in the programation

@@douglasnorona6895 true, but they could have gone more in depth instead of having tons of useless filler

@@forceawakens4449 Hours and Commericals to Disaster

I've seen this first hand. And just as you say "any company dealing with flamable hydrocarbons should make sure about R&R of every person" ... the big-wigs at that company are arguing, "It's not my job to make sure know's their responsibility! That other manager is supposed to ensure everyone knows their role."

@@Algebrodadio Yeah, I know what you are talking about, and it is kinda sad. Sometimes this kinda incidents are also involved with toxic power game among managers or teams... Very sad.

That or "it's not in my job description".

@@MrSupasonics training and equipment boundaries were obviously lacking which to me indicates a workplace where they were flying by the seat of their pants. Not to mention the top of the tank could have been shielded with fire blanket as part of the work permit and absolutely there should have been a nitrogen blanket on the tank as part of the design. In my experience working operating crews for 20 years there are a few people out there who's work needs to be checked constantly and that causes incidents and puts extra stress on other workers but in my opinion 90% of workplace incidents come down to management not spending the money on training or listening to operators when they try to address an issue or pushing to get the job done... Why wasn't the tank drained and purged? Easy , it would have taken time and time is money.

@@snakeylanes4804 No fire blanket or spark containment is very surprising here. I guess standards are different everywhere (coming from an operator in Ontario), but that amazed me.

If you don't think you work near dangerous chemicals or equipment then you aren't very observant, they're almost everywhere now

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It’s crazy how excited I get seeing a Notification for this channel!!!!! You know it’s gonna be some meaty content!

Mike Gaskin Lol, yes sir, we’re all here again

@@Syclone0044 I was just thinking about that lol. "Oh yay, a UCSB video I didn't watch! Oh, someone probably died."

Greg S ikr 😂 stay safe!

I think it's a morbid curiosity. Like I really like nuclear weapons test films. Or Chernobyl, Fukushima; Bhopal disaster films. But I don't know the psychology of why some people like this stuff. It's a good question.

Same. Lol

Jason Swearingen humans are known to have a natural morbid curiosity

@@vonschweringen8321 it's not "morbid"curiosity on my end. I'm far more interested in what happened before the kaboom moment than after. However I LOVE learning about Chernobyl

There is already a lawsuit by an employee, the employee stated that the company made cheap repairs to the pipes that were leaking, but they kept leaking and were never properly repaired.

Holy shit dude. I had seen the initial news pop up on my phone, but I haven't looked into it until now. Jesus christ...

it's a longer version of the video they uploaded in 2018. Not sure why they redid it

I guess that was the preliminary report.

@@mageklok older version just described the incident. This is them including their safety recommendations and other analysis

@@LeafseasonMagbag thanks dawgie, at least I know I'm not going crazy

No no that one had the tank fly across the river

Man I had the opportunity to go into paper mills during a previous jobs. They're huge, I'm pretty sure some of the ones I went to covered more square footage than my college campus. So much machinery, so many people, so many giant tanks like the one that blew up in this video. It's incredibly fascinating but also a little unnerving.

I think you speak for a lot of us here... (for me, I for one tell myself that I like these videos for the same reason I like Sherlock Homes)

I love these as i learn, damn learning is a hell of an addictive drug. I am addicted, to the drug of learning. Damn it.

@@charadremur333 Welcome to the LLL - the Life-Long Learner Club! Proudly addicted to cramming as much new information into our brains as it can possible handle!! 👌🤓💭

Nope

If Trump had his way they'd be dead.

Not everything…we wouldn’t get these wonderfully informative and beautiful videos!

@@WhiteHatMatt right right more people should blow stuff up

bit late to improve safety? they cant even get iosh to change the procedures

OMG RON, YOU LIKE THESE VIDEOS?

Spider_ Hand55 I was never here

Bro how'd you know?

Yup

DING DING DING we have a winner!!! Something tells me this isn't your first USCSB video

@@brow4840 I think nitrous oxide is. Or propane and ethanol maybe?

@@vonschweringen8321 not an expert but both ethanol & propane are extremely flammable (in b4 r/whoosh)

@@brow4840 You mean non-flammable? Inflammable means highly likely to catch fire, without even the need for an ignition source.

@TheBrodsterBoy thank you for clarifying

"not enough oxygen to create an explosion"

Dang.

Never have I ever clicked on a video so fast just to be heartbroken.

It's not a re-upload. This includes final report updates, remedies, and additional information not listed in the original video.

"never mind"? what? this has a ton of new content and way sharper animations. I'd watch it even without the new content.

@@BrainScramblies Someone was very proud of the bit with the valve. "Look at this amazing oxidised galvanized valve!"

Mr. Safer the CSB has no enforcement power. That responsibility goes to goes OSHA and other bodies. This prevents witch hunts and bias from ruling the investigation process. Think of NTSB verses DOT.

was it in the US?

Yeah, they weren't as blatantly ignorant in this incident. Others (like Iron in the Fire) are so blatantly and infuriatingly negligent that many are openly critical of the companies. But this one...? They just... didn't consider it. Should they have? Yes. Did they know they should have? Maybe, maybe not. And that's where the accountability hinges. If they knew, then it was negligence. If they didn't, it was ignorance.