One thing you should still learn is the mechanics with fallen trees. The transparency mechanic works based on your distance to the fallen tree, but spotting and camo mechanics work based on distances separately, on their own, not based on the transparency mechanic. Transparency is just a visual thing to guide the players. So this means that when a tree is, lets say 15m tall, and you knock it to the ground. When you approach it, it will turn transparent at less than 15m distance. But at that point you're still more than 15m from the furthest part of the tree to you. This means the tree will still act as camo between you and the enemies and you aren't spotting through it, it is in fact blocking your spotting. This is why with fallen trees you can't trust the visual transparency mechanic but instead judge the distance to the furthest part of the tree from you when you want to spot through it. This is 100% tested thing and this is how it works. Nothing is broken, it's just different mechanics and the limitations of the visual transparency mechanic with objects that are bigger.

Just learned that the 15m behind the bush = save isnt anymore... well, that alone explains ALOT. 🤣

Finally someone explained it. Because I also thought that bushes have different types of camouflage, and some are even broken.

Extremely interesting. Very, very useful for myself and I believe everyone not knowing all these mechanics. I'm not sure I would understand without examples but this was very clear. Great job, thank you !

The only time I understood camo. You are the best

Fantastic video. It all makes a lot of sense now! I've been thinking of that Daki clip for a while now

There's a tier X field mod that decreases bush camo. With that field mod and CVS the new critical number becomes 37.92%

Great video Iyouxin. Very good explaination of camo and bushes.

The best explanation of cammo in WOT.

ffs, pure treasure, thank you! I am quite a good LT player, learned by watching the best in CIS, Nidin, he understands all this, but never explained it so well, like you did, as well as tonns of other LT bloggers.. massive THANKS!

Great content. I always play with very sneaky tanks, so sometimes i was getting spotted without understanding, then i started to know about those weird 25% and 80% bushes. Then when CVS appeared, and EBRs can use them, everything got more complex for my AMX line

makes sense to me, thx i always struggled with that hopefully im better now

This is a great video, wow thanks for sharing this awesome tip. GG and WP mate.

Love the guide and have a suggestion. Could you make a video specifically showing how to deal with EVEN 90s with other T8 lights? EVEN 90 doesn't really have a lot of counterplay other than passive scouting in an 80% bush and hoping he pushes into a single, but how do you decide when you think the EVEN will push? EVEN is top 10 most popular tank on every server cluster despite being a light, so every 3 mark session in T8 lights is basically you vs. EVEN 90. Even worse when you get an EVEN 90 and have to split your spotting with them or lose it entirely.

You are one of my favorite player and person in this community cheers mate.

kinda funny, that if you go full camo on a T30 (bounty exhaust, bond vents, BIA, camo paint, camo skills, exhaust directive and Cola) you can actually get the 36% stationary to make it invisible in bushes :D no one in their right mind would go for that set in a T30, but the fact that it is possible is kinda insane

amazing explanation

Really helpfull. Thanks a lot!

Wow, no wonder my M41D did so well on prok when I was grinding for 2 mark and doing union-15, I was using bounty exhaust which gave me just over 36% camo

Holy sh*t i didnt know how much i needed this, thanks a lot !!! 🎉❤

Honestly I respect how much your english speaking ability has improved over the years of watching your streams and vids. Great job!

Sometimes you can spot the enemy light just before entering ths proxy distance. This is because bushes become clear when you get close enough to them. So sometimes you can move through the bushline and get so close that the enemy light only has 1 bush effectively speaking.

WOT Professor Iyouxin, thank you sensei.

First of all, congratulations on an excellent video. In the calculation file there seems to be an error in the 80% “after firing in bush” box (is the same as 50%). Furthermore, I believe that the calculation file is only valid for lights, because it does not take into account camouflage in motion and in motion after shooting. It's right? On the other hand, for me, there are also some errors in the calculation in motion, boxes "in bush" boxes (0,9 and 0.85 must be 0,875). Sorry my english

Very good vid.

Thx for that knowledge, I really appreciated it Cheers Sir from Poland 🍻

Actually went into the Discord to get the camo calculator. Thanks!

THANK YOU 👌

@6:00 need the tree be cut? does a normal standing tree counts? and 8:40 how far can 2 bushes be away fromn each other to seill count as doublebush?

I have one question @iyouxin twitch, i'm not sure if when we we are 15 metres behind the bush, we have still 50% camo from bush or its changes to 80% And when one bush in front of us and its 15 netres in front of us we are still able to spot with no changes? Sr for bad english

wow amazing ty

You have NO IDEA how many times I told our light tank to go and just sit in that D/E 1 position 🤦‍♂️ 95% of the time they either yoloed like crazy in the middle or they passed through the line of bushes at line 2, obviously getting spotted and lost the game for all of us ☹️ I had GREAT spotting games from that position with either a stealthy td or a medium 😱 It's just awesome! And not by using cvs, I also had great games at lower tiers, just by sitting in that bush and / or then shooting double bushed.

back in the days light tanks would allways spot TDs but now TDs spots light tank first

Nice guide man. Is there a website where we can see tanks visibility points? So we can tell if that little part of the track that's sticking out of a bush really makes a difference.

Very good info, but one thing it doesn't address in terms of my gameplay is 90% of the time im match made with potatoes playing with boxing gloves on. I can go to all the nice spots and keep things lit but all kidding aside half the team is dead in 2 minutes and the rest of the team are camping the back line in heavies. It keeps my winrate hovering at 48-50%. People will say "lrn to play better" but my spotting has little to do with half my team being in the garage before the battle is even really set up.

It is 80%, because game mechanic allows to aquire up to 80% camo from foliage, so there can be 10 bushes in front of you, it still gives 80% :)

spotting guide for every map please

I wish WoTB have you, this is a great video

Hello, I loved your video and the excel is very accomplished, but I have doubts because the vision, the camouflage and if the enemy tank has CVS, doesn't it have an influence? I understand that the excel is a reference but the enemy tank also influences. Great job

Great video. But u mean that u need to sit behind the bush to make it to an 80% one? Or it also work if u knock a tree into a bush so both overlap and sit in it?

Great vid my WR just fkn boosted i feel like my enemies are bots XD thanks!!!

I’ve played for ocer a decade and I feel like a boomer when it comes to how CVS changes bushes, but slowly learning it lately by playing EVEN 90

I learnt nothing till you whipped the map out and then, dam I never realised pushing the left hand bush line gave me 80% camo instead of 50% cammo. Title lies I learnt how camo mechanics work in 8:23 m,inutes :D

where can I get the camo calculator? Great work btw! Keep it up!

Iyouxin, is there a video or website that shows all the different trees by camo provided?

I still dont understand when bush conceal gets added, like when you are in a bush and enemy is in an open field does it count as both tanks gets the bonus as theres a bush in between or only you get it as you are actually in the bush?

This explaination is neat - except for the emphasis on 36% camo. My Sheridan with max camo skill, low noise exhaust, and exterior camo has less than 35.81% camo. Am I supposed to need field mods or consumables to get to 36%?

Very informative! But where do you get this camo calculator? XD

I don't understand what 25% bush,50% bush is. This index means that when entering the bush, it adds up to 25%, 50% or something like that? Hope you can explain it to me. thanks you.

Thumbnail looks like iyouxin eating broccoli 😂

6:00 but 50% bush + 25% tree will do 75% camo wont it ? either way this helped me a lot ! but I keep wondering 25% tree and 50% bush together do 80% camo ? I guess for 75% tree to work you need 36%camo + 5 so 41 logically ?

6:43 - this is just the theory, because in reality - the tank in the line of bushes will also benefit from the knoced tree and the bush of the Bulldog, that's why Bulldog won't be able to outspot the enemy LT.

Great... so on what map are we supposed to use this? New Mountain Pass where they removed all good TD positions? Or all the other maps where we are supposed to bush behind some grass.

Your awesome

I have to say it, your sometimes really annoying iyouxin, but these videos are on another level. Really profesional work ! Nothing i didnt know but ill leave you a sub and a like just for your way to explain camo.

You are the beast 😄 Can I have a link to Excel?

This math makes sense. But how do you make it useful given in game there’s no time to crunch numbers? Do you memorize a few numbers before you go in?

You gotta love the quote *There is not a single tank that has 600m Viewrange* Am ...wrong xD

why does it matter that the tank is passing through one line of the bushes, when one bush gives you 50 percent camo and that's enough to make you only be proxy spotted if u have 36% camo? shouldn't he only be able to be proxy spotted?

So if I knock a tree into a bush and then sit IN the bush (not behind) do i get max camo or do I still need to sit behind it? Thank you!

so basically that 36% camo mark just is, no explanation, WG decided it's gonna be that way, same with proxy spot... why it is 50m? because WG decided it's 50m, some game mechanics are just set at some value because somebody felt that it would be okay to have that value up there 🤷‍♂️ another example: in NBA made by 2K there is a player stat "ball handling", if you have this stat at 86 or higher (range 25-99) you can run around your defender, but it you have the same exact player with just 85 ball handling, you won't get past the defender, he'll lock you in place like he glued you to the floor... why 86? nobody knows, it's just the way it is 🤷‍♂️ so I wouldn't look for an explanation for the 36% camo value being some calculated value, it's just a set value that WG picked... nonetherless an amazing explanation and the most important thing for me - the bush camo values, I knew they had different values, but didn't know what and how to recognise them 😅 so thank you very much Professor Iyouxin 💙

so are you saying I don't need to boost my camo on say ebr?

Hi, where can I download the google xlsx you are using in the video

is there any link tho this google table with calculations?

Enter the Matrix

How can I get that sped sheet.

Its like an lecture. I fall asleep 😴

Where can i download that?

Great explained. I know now how to use the bushes. But its really hard to understand the mechanics Great Video🍀🌞👍😁

Where is the link to the sheet? The discord doesn't work.

People are still getting confused by stating that 50% + 50% = 80%. Rightly so because from a mathematical point of view this of course does not make any sense. It should therefore be pointed out that in WoT there is a practical limit of 80% camouflage offered by foliage. In other words, no matter how many 50% bushes or fallen trees you have between you and your opponent, the provided camouflage is never be higher than 80%.

arond 20:00 mark, why do you have Turkish words on your search bar? :)

How I get this Excel document?

I♥BUSHES

"25+25+25+25=80 that's how camo in WG works" - all you need to know how logic works in WOT ;)

iyouxin causaly being a pro in understanding camo makes me feel dumb

The newer commander's vision that counteracts camo is 20p it needs to be nerfed if anyone's wants to run with camo as a tactic in my not so humble opinion

Excuse me , im not an english native , what is the CSV ?

Can someone please tell me the math as to why do you exactly need 36%+ camo to not get spotted by anything? I just hate when i dont know why 36 is such a magical number

Thank you very much. You nedd to be CC from WOT. They must forget everything!!!!! You are the best.

I have a bush

I didn't pay so much attention even in classes, excellent teacher, excellent service (5 stars)

can u share excel ?

the problem is differnciating between types of bushes

I have 56% camo on EBR105 no one can find me if I'm in bush, only 50m😂

Sorry, I did not watch the whole vid. Where can I download this spreadsheet? Thanks.

@iyouxin : where can i get ur calculator? :)

"Understand Camo in 23 minutes", but this video is only 22 minutes long, meaning I will never unlock the secret knowledge of camo.

Why is the difference between 35.9% and 36% so big?

What wait? - nvm.. 50+50=80

Yeah maxed out on camo for elc and they spotting me and in same bushes that are 50% but keep believing the mechanics act as they should. I mean im maxxxxxxxxxxxeddddddddddddddddd

There should not be this amount of complexity in a game that is decided by RNG. 15-3 steamrolls and 4 min games.

as we all know, WOT is a mathematic game, lol

isnt that dumb that u can only be spotted in proxy range if u are in 80%bush and with 36+ cammo

I wish WOT console’s camo mechanics were the same as PC’s. It’s sooooo bad on console

Please re-post Is-7 videos :)

My name is Valera. I am old man. I am 54 years old.

гра перетворюється в математику. надто багато цифр потрібно тримати в голові.

school for kindergarten???

This was a waste of my time.