Understanding the War in Ukraine (8) - NATO (Russia/Finland/Sweden)

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STG Director Prof Alexander Stubb sheds light on the war in Ukraine in a series of video lectures. Each lecture focuses on a different angle regarding the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
This eighth episode zooms in on NATO, as Finland and Sweden to apply for membership.
After a first round of six lectures covering the general situation, Finland, Europe, "the world", Russia and China, the seventh lecture looked at the United States of America.
This episode was recorded on 2 May 2022.
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@anksie
@anksie 2 жыл бұрын
The timing of this content is spot on. The world is in flames and a sound of reason is needed. Never stop making these videos. Brilliant content.
@grumpydinosaur2347
@grumpydinosaur2347 2 жыл бұрын
I was once in sweden and later in finland. Sweds are kinde nice but chill mode and clean cities and attitude in general is so amazing in Finland. This country is just amazing.
@gagsdoublej4254
@gagsdoublej4254 2 жыл бұрын
Excuse me Sir/Madam Are you saved? If you died tonight are you going to heaven? Jesus Jesus loves you
@alexmaina739
@alexmaina739 2 жыл бұрын
What the hell does this have to do with NATO?
@TheGoreFist
@TheGoreFist 2 жыл бұрын
@@gagsdoublej4254 What about Raptor Jesus, does he love me too?
@m.2pcie471
@m.2pcie471 2 жыл бұрын
...because they are inbred - and therefore outdated. It's like you saying Germans would have been chill if there wouldn't have been any Jewish Germans. A fascist always shows his real colors when people appear that are different in some way.
@jesseaffiliate6328
@jesseaffiliate6328 2 жыл бұрын
@@gagsdoublej4254 God bless you and everyone
@edwardfowle2404
@edwardfowle2404 Жыл бұрын
You are awesome Sir!!!Thank you for your insight! Slava Ukraine!!
@emesejohn5367
@emesejohn5367 2 жыл бұрын
Love the new Stubbalicious analysis. Clear and concise as always, thanks Alex.
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
transnational all small countries when to be non France we are national as in Sweden my second country Nato an alliance of "democratic states" values like... Turkey and Erdogan who has the second army in the Alliance you just say counter truth Nato is a new win-win ? alliance for the new members Finland an Sweden who joins with out referendums. In 2003your brothers Danes participated to the illegal war invading Irak lead by the most unpeacfull country USA over armed to make the gendarme in the world Usa rallied mostly of European Nato countries except France and Germany Nato is a win win alliance for US military complex stealing from its allies military contracts as for example they made made an outrageous stealing of a French 50 bilions contract with Australia nato is a tool also to sell F54 fighter to Poland a forced sell when Rafale or Jas Gripen is better. Germany who has announced it want to have a real army and announced they were going to equip their fo ces with F35 win win for whom ? like Carl bill you are a salesman for nato it is win win for you and him
@robertaurens5665
@robertaurens5665 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously you watch too much TV and get your brain washed for your trouble.
@JohnDupuyintegralrecovery
@JohnDupuyintegralrecovery 2 жыл бұрын
So glad to see your listenership growing. Alex you provide a much needed voice.
@cindybogart6062
@cindybogart6062 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Prof. Snubb. For this great series on Russia, NATO , Ukraine & others involved. It’s an excellent cometary.
@user-tv4th7eo2x
@user-tv4th7eo2x 2 жыл бұрын
Cindy Bogart, or maybe I just call you "Irina Ivanova". (How in the hell you Russian trolls you make those names so clear to see through like "John Doe") I must ask you how is the weather in Ulitsa Optikov in St. Petersburg???? LMAO!
@rree9550
@rree9550 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-tv4th7eo2x the weather is fine... everything's fine...
@Itapirkanmaa2
@Itapirkanmaa2 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Snubb yes haha and "comedy" you mean?
@daxx77m
@daxx77m 2 жыл бұрын
It's a great series of lectures. Alexander Stubb is a fantastic communicator!
@farrier53
@farrier53 2 жыл бұрын
Very well explained & presented. I have learned a lot in just a few minutes of your lecture !
@thor9563
@thor9563 Жыл бұрын
Alex, I have just found your series and tonight have begun to 'catch up' by watching past dispatches. Thank you for a very intelligent and enlightening series! I am glad that in this video (#9), you FINALLY alluded to the cause and the purpose of NATO's formation (4:10): To provide a secure military deterrent to a beligerent (Soviet) Russia. It is for this that I find it difficult to understand Putin's stated annoyance with NATO's growing presence at Russia's border. Putin and Russia have always been the justification for the existence and the persistence of NATO! Putin has stated that NATO represents an 'existential' threat to Russia. Rather, NATO represents an existential threat to: Putin and his kleptocratic dictatorship which is sustained by the following institutions: a. Oligarchs placed at the head of all major industries; b. a propaganda machine; c. a subservient judicial/police system with the Law of Rule; d. Undivided governance providing zero checks and balances. It would indeed be intolerable for Putin to have a free Democratic/capitalistic European state at his border, demonstrating the strength of the West to Russia's populace.
@theH0UNDSofD00M
@theH0UNDSofD00M 2 жыл бұрын
The Finnish army is huge in proportion to the population. I would say that Finland and Sweden are more than welcome at NATO. Plus, both countries have amazing Heavy Metal bands, which should be mandatory condition to join anything, really! 🤜🤛
@cisadaneinteligentofagency8923
@cisadaneinteligentofagency8923 2 жыл бұрын
I think They Joined Pop-Punk
@ransu7327
@ransu7327 2 жыл бұрын
Gracias señor🙂👍
@69VAJRA
@69VAJRA 2 жыл бұрын
Yeaa Finland are wellarmed against russians supersonic missile 5 times faster then sound.
@Grak70
@Grak70 2 жыл бұрын
@@69VAJRA ok, they shoot the 12 uber missiles they have. Now what. Russia can’t even deploy a new tank to Ukraine.
@69VAJRA
@69VAJRA 2 жыл бұрын
@@Grak70 Yeaaa and the next media lie going to tell you that its best we attack Moscow to disable and stop war in Ukraine..... Just remember Russia are number one or at least number 2 having nuclearweapon, provoke the bear and we all will be blown to scrambles either direct or by after effect regardless were you live on the planet. War talks like you all have tells about your cognitive dissonans, your under masspsycosis Were are the diplomacy and peace talks in media or among people?
@mariuszmusiaka9692
@mariuszmusiaka9692 2 жыл бұрын
Point 1: good job Point 2: thank you Point 3: Greetings :)
@Oikonomos12
@Oikonomos12 2 жыл бұрын
Always very clearly explained...hard to get for the Italian Left and Right
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
Nato an alliance of "democratic states" values like... Turkey and Erdogan who has the second army in the Alliance you just say counter truth Nato is a new win-win ? alliance for the new members Finland an Sweden who joins with out referendums. In 2003your brothers Danes participated to the illegal war invading Irak lead by the most unpeacfull country USA over armed to make the gendarme in the world Usa rallied mostly of European Nato countries except France and Germany Nato is a win win alliance for US military complex stealing from its allies military contracts as for example they made made an outrageous stealing of a French 50 bilions contract with Australia nato is a tool also to sell F54 fighter to Poland a forced sell when Rafale or Jas Gripen is better. Germany who has announced it want to have a real army and announced they were going to equip their fo ces with F35 win win for whom ? like Carl bill you are a salesman for nato it is win win for you and him
@whistleblowerer6527
@whistleblowerer6527 2 жыл бұрын
As a swede i can clearly say we would not join nato if it weren't for the 24th of februari. Also we would not join nato if Finland would stay out of it as it would put Finland in a bad spot between nato and russia and the political pressure on Finland from russia would escalate. And we stick togeather.
@nicolasgarcia248
@nicolasgarcia248 2 жыл бұрын
The attack to prod and prol since 2014 didnt Matter? Just 24th feb did?
@whistleblowerer6527
@whistleblowerer6527 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasgarcia248 The opinion on nato did change some in 2014 and we got more people who wanted to join nato but it was still around 30% or so. But we and finland have been way more involved with nato since 2014 but the public opinion did take a drastic turn now in feb
@whistleblowerer6527
@whistleblowerer6527 2 жыл бұрын
@Meme Memeson yep you are saying what we already know. Our "neutrality" is long gone and we know that but it still hangs around outside of Sweden for some reason. But the public opinion wether we should actually join nato has been quite low until now. So im not trying anything, i know what is going on. And i know our cooparation with nato. Its no secret. But i can say that we would not join nato if Finland didn't it is kinda one big reason we never did back in the day. But im glad you have read something and somehow think its hidden away from everyone in Sweden and want to share it. So thanks
@Dandersenification
@Dandersenification 2 жыл бұрын
The Finns are our sisters and brothers from ages ago! I need only say "Sven Duva!" and you will all know what I mean. Any enemy of Finland is an enemy of Sweden!
@nicolasgarcia248
@nicolasgarcia248 2 жыл бұрын
@Meme Memeson not to mention that every Saab aircraft was desing to perform against russia (in their mind, only russia was enemy)
@alcoholfree6381
@alcoholfree6381 2 жыл бұрын
Very well done; he has obviously thought a lot about the topics surrounding the Ukrainian War. His political/diplomatic experience gives a lot of insight!
@qwerty6383
@qwerty6383 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers to that! 🍺🍺🍺
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
Nato an alliance of "democratic states" values like... Turkey and Erdogan who has the second army in the Alliance you just say counter truth Nato is a new win-win ? alliance for the new members Finland an Sweden who joins with out referendums. In 2003your brothers Danes participated to the illegal war invading Irak lead by the most unpeacfull country USA over armed to make the gendarme in the world Usa rallied mostly of European Nato countries except France and Germany Nato is a win win alliance for US military complex stealing from its allies military contracts as for example they made made an outrageous stealing of a French 50 bilions contract with Australia nato is a tool also to sell F54 fighter to Poland a forced sell when Rafale or Jas Gripen is better. Germany who has announced it want to have a real army and announced they were going to equip their fo ces with F35 win win for whom ? like Carl bill you are a salesman for nato it is win win for you and him
@tuijanordstrom3063
@tuijanordstrom3063 2 жыл бұрын
Pragmatic vs ideological, indeed! In both countries i have seen the rapid and immediate change of opinion after Feb24 although it seemed more decisive early on in Finland while there were more discussions whether or not in Sweden. Nato is for added security, not to show aggression toward Russia. I hope indeed that we can continue coexisting peacefully, as independent countries. It will be a win-win situation also for Russia and Russians.
@carlabroderick5508
@carlabroderick5508 2 жыл бұрын
The stronger NATO becomes, the more influence to help Ukraine and Russia recover from this tragedy. Never again!
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
Nato an alliance of "democratic states" values like... Turkey and Erdogan who has the second army in the Alliance you just say counter truth Nato is a new win-win ? alliance for the new members Finland an Sweden who joins with out referendums. In 2003your brothers Danes participated to the illegal war invading Irak lead by the most unpeacfull country USA over armed to make the gendarme in the world Usa rallied mostly of European Nato countries except France and Germany Nato is a win win alliance for US military complex stealing from its allies military contracts as for example they made made an outrageous stealing of a French 50 bilions contract with Australia nato is a tool also to sell F54 fighter to Poland a forced sell when Rafale or Jas Gripen is better. Germany who has announced it want to have a real army and announced they were going to equip their fo ces with F35 win win for whom ? like Carl bill you are a salesman for nato it is win win for you and him
@SebastianRup
@SebastianRup 2 жыл бұрын
Enlightening insight. I am enjoying this series! Thank you Prof Stubb. One thing I disagree with, or I would expand on, is the statement that NATO has returned to its founding purpose. To defend against Russian (Soviet) aggression. This is not broad enough a definition. The purpose of NATO remains as the defender of Western values, and that threat has shown itself to come from Russia again. What are Western values? In short (but by no means a concise list): Democracy, accountability, freedom of speech, respect of human rights, respect for the individual, respect for sovereignty.
@goldreserve
@goldreserve 2 жыл бұрын
Those are important ideals but do they correspond with US and Ukraine actions? The Iraq war was started with a lie about WMD in Iraq. The result 1 million dead. Was that a crime against humanity? If not, why not? See 'Roses Have Thorns (Part 6) The Odessa Massacre' on KZfaq. No one ever convicted. The far right group responsible 'Right Sector' were formed into a Ukraine National Guard battalion. How does that equate to accountability? Ukraine has banned opposition political parties and media. The list of journalists killed in Ukraine is very long. we know free speech doesn't exist in Russia. Can free speech exist in a country at war?
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
Nato an alliance of "democratic states" values like... Turkey and Erdogan who has the second army in the Alliance you just say counter truth Nato is a new win-win ? alliance for the new members Finland an Sweden who joins with out referendums. In 2003your brothers Danes participated to the illegal war invading Irak lead by the most unpeacfull country USA over armed to make the gendarme in the world Usa rallied mostly of European Nato countries except France and Germany Nato is a win win alliance for US military complex stealing from its allies military contracts as for example they made made an outrageous stealing of a French 50 bilions contract with Australia nato is a tool also to sell F54 fighter to Poland a forced sell when Rafale or Jas Gripen is better. Germany who has announced it want to have a real army and announced they were going to equip their fo ces with F35 win win for whom ? like Carl bill you are a salesman for nato it is win win for you and him
@user-bm6jn9ls4n
@user-bm6jn9ls4n 2 жыл бұрын
It would also be true to say NATO is aggressive at least that is what most of us non Europeans/Westerners etc
@dichebach
@dichebach 2 жыл бұрын
Exceptional lecture!
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
Nato an alliance of "democratic states" values like... Turkey and Erdogan who has the second army in the Alliance you just say counter truth Nato is a new win-win ? alliance for the new members Finland an Sweden who joins with out referendums. In 2003your brothers Danes participated to the illegal war invading Irak lead by the most unpeacfull country USA over armed to make the gendarme in the world Usa rallied mostly of European Nato countries except France and Germany Nato is a win win alliance for US military complex stealing from its allies military contracts as for example they made made an outrageous stealing of a French 50 bilions contract with Australia nato is a tool also to sell F54 fighter to Poland a forced sell when Rafale or Jas Gripen is better. Germany who has announced it want to have a real army and announced they were going to equip their fo ces with F35 win win for whom ? like Carl bill you are a salesman for nato it is win win for you and him
@hamoduro8466
@hamoduro8466 2 жыл бұрын
Well done Finland and Sweden great decision right time Simple answer for Vladimir putin is that security concerns for Russia stops at Russians borders not beyond. Thefore Putin as no jurisdiction over Finland or Sweden or any other country outside Russia is authoritarian ambition must be stopped right now
@rree9550
@rree9550 2 жыл бұрын
you're all sweet and brave at 9!
@helenaleahy9396
@helenaleahy9396 2 жыл бұрын
I guess Putin wasn't expecting this ??
@mrbrand4720
@mrbrand4720 2 жыл бұрын
Well this week will be interesting here in Sweden and in Finland .
@mrbrand4720
@mrbrand4720 2 жыл бұрын
history in the making .
@Bathtubcrocodile
@Bathtubcrocodile 2 жыл бұрын
Finland signed their application today, yes? Sweden will sign on sunday. It is pretty much done.
@mrbrand4720
@mrbrand4720 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bathtubcrocodile Read in the newspaper that Sweden and Finland will send its application on monday .
@Bathtubcrocodile
@Bathtubcrocodile 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrbrand4720 Correct.
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bathtubcrocodile du måste klara av Erdogan om du gör det är du bakar om kurderna men du har redan sålde ditt själ åt jänkarna
@DudorSP
@DudorSP 2 жыл бұрын
Finland does indeed make Nato stronger. Sweden does not have a large standing army at the moment but on the other hand it has kept it's massive cold war weapons industry going which is already developing Nato-compatible weapons like the now famous NLAW all the way up to gen 4.5 fighter jets. It's a big win-win for everyone but Russia.
@dguy321
@dguy321 2 жыл бұрын
It's a win for the Russian people. Their leadership will be less likely to start new invasions that send Russian citizens to die while trying to murder their neighbors. And if Russia isn't invading anybody, the sanctions will lift and its economy will improve.
@frozenmadness
@frozenmadness 2 жыл бұрын
It's also a win for Russia: It reduces the attraction of attacking Finland and Sweden, thus possibly saving tens of thousands of Russian soldiers' lives.
@farzana6676
@farzana6676 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone that does not meet their 2% defense spending commitments need to be kicked out of NATO! NATO is not an alliance for freeloaders.
@mannydib
@mannydib 2 жыл бұрын
Finland has the largest artillery capability in Europe
@Redfizh
@Redfizh 2 жыл бұрын
@Pennan We Finns used to have couple but those are museums now.
@metalhamster14
@metalhamster14 2 жыл бұрын
the number of views have grown quickly for this series not surprising
@vitoroliveirajorge368
@vitoroliveirajorge368 2 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@folwr3653
@folwr3653 2 жыл бұрын
“It is not a zero sum game”. That is unfortunately the thing Putin is not capable of understanding.
@coolbertgzz
@coolbertgzz 2 жыл бұрын
You must know well what he wants.
@abdulahmadi4512
@abdulahmadi4512 2 жыл бұрын
Great respect from Denmark. Very wised ...
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
dane mac helped US agent to bug Macron and Merkel celphonesthank you Danemark puddle of USA Danes were also more present than any country in the US illegal invasion under false evidences ( with Ukraine) it made 1/2 million deaths Putin is an amateur
@Stockholm17
@Stockholm17 2 жыл бұрын
Let me ask a thing I never understood since I moved to Sweden in 2009. Russia kept (and keeps) harassing Sweden with air-space or marine-space violation of all kinds: with submarines, jet fighters, ships, etc. Swedes are russiaphobic for this reason, but I never understood why Russia is so fixated with harassing Sweden. Why is that?
@FelixMeister
@FelixMeister 2 жыл бұрын
The 16th to 18th centuries mainly. Sweden consistently smacked the crap out of Russia for a couple of hundred years.
@byteresistor
@byteresistor 2 жыл бұрын
Turkey stopped the problem of Russia violating their airspace with one swift move by shooting one their helicopters down. They haven't done it since. Try that approach.
@Wargasm54
@Wargasm54 2 жыл бұрын
Russia has been doin that to everyone for the past 40 years. They like to push it. Until you do like Turkey and shoot one down.
@Gretstarret
@Gretstarret 2 жыл бұрын
@@byteresistor Its a bit easier to do when you are part of NATO and being mountainous country that is absolute horror to invade.
@ArchOfficial
@ArchOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
I'm somewhat sure Russia keeps annoying and prodding its neighbors so that they remain "russophobic" and Russia has a reason to keep being aggressive.
@johnhelenius
@johnhelenius 2 жыл бұрын
Make this as a podcast version as well
@AlfaGiuliaQV
@AlfaGiuliaQV 2 жыл бұрын
Putin made the desicion for us in one day.
@Harold075
@Harold075 2 жыл бұрын
realizing that we have 1 300 km border with Mordor.
@cutev1nce128
@cutev1nce128 2 жыл бұрын
I am in sweden and i have bombs exploding please pray for us🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@AlfaGiuliaQV
@AlfaGiuliaQV 2 жыл бұрын
@@cutev1nce128 No worryings! Finlandball will of halpings.
@survived4679
@survived4679 2 жыл бұрын
u expect our woman leader not to join😭
@sampza00
@sampza00 2 жыл бұрын
@@survived4679 how does gender matter in this discussion in any way lmao
@spoged7692
@spoged7692 2 жыл бұрын
The polls just hit 76% for nato
@jderoma4382
@jderoma4382 2 жыл бұрын
I am really enjoying you series. Very enlightening. I have a question, though. Has NATO ever tried to sign a non-aggression pact with Russia?
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
I can answer Poutin asked to Clinton if Russia could be member of nato the uS president nearly fell out in laugh
@jeremiasfronda108
@jeremiasfronda108 2 жыл бұрын
Hoping still possible to stop war, rebuild damaged, pay compensation of victims of war, displaced persons return to their homeland, become friendly. As our Greatest Leader said :" Love your enemies." and be "forgive one another. " Let peace and security will prevail over the wicked war.
@richardnewton5465
@richardnewton5465 2 жыл бұрын
I am really enjoying your series. I would like to hear you weigh in on the future relationship of Finland, Sweden, and Norway. Do you think that Canada and the United States will be close partners with the Nordic countries?
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
like carl Bildt a good sales man for Nato
@tirzhaprinsloo2774
@tirzhaprinsloo2774 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this insight I think it is important to join Nato if it is only for security reasons.
@vl647
@vl647 2 жыл бұрын
Why just security reasons?
@travezripley
@travezripley 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@davidhowse884
@davidhowse884 Жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in some mention why those former Soviet Block states chose to join NATO, instead of continuing historical ties with Soviet Union before its break-up. . I would also be interested in a comment or mention on what I read in a Wikipedia summary of "Foundations of Geopolitics..." 1997, by Aleksandr Dugin, which I believe stated Finland should be absorbed into Russia-did this text have influence in Russian geopolitical thinking and Finland's thinking about Russia? I would be interested in Alexander Stubb having a public discussion with John Mearsheimer about NATO and the causes of the war in Ukraine. His lectures on the Ukraine war or Russian relations with the west are at variance with others.
@Nome_e_Cognome
@Nome_e_Cognome 2 жыл бұрын
I still wonder why they called it "North Atlantic treaty organization" with Italy as a founding member. Last time I checked Italy was in the very center of the Mediterranean sea 🤷‍♂️
@LifeWithSeb99
@LifeWithSeb99 2 жыл бұрын
How big of a role the natural resources found in Eastern Ukraine play in this conflict?
@user-tv4th7eo2x
@user-tv4th7eo2x 2 жыл бұрын
Good question. Maybe bit smaller that we think in the west. Russians seems really believe that "Nazism" and "Facism" existence in Ukraine...
@albinnorrving4378
@albinnorrving4378 2 жыл бұрын
Swedish neutrality during the cold was was more or less non-existent. The level of cooperation between NATO (especially the US) and Sweden surpassed that of many NATO members. For example, Sweden got the newly developed Sidewinder air-to-air missile before the UK did. Of course this was done so that the Soviet long range naval strike aircraft could not reach the north Atlantic and sever the supply lines to Europe.
@magnushem8734
@magnushem8734 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree. 1945-1990 Sweden tried really hard to appear neutral. Sweden had a strong military and it’s own industry of munitions, cannons, fighter jets etc. After the Cold War, Sweden has joined EU and initiated a very close collaboration with NATO.
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
it was neutral until Stalingrad after fiercely pro anglo-saxon des är bra ni ka hopak dåliga F34 dura I stylet for utmârkta jas Gripen jenkarna comme utrota sveriges militâra industrin som de gör i Frankrike det ¨r ju syftert av NATO
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
and Sweden has sur strömming but it is very cruel to use in a war
@albinnorrving4378
@albinnorrving4378 2 жыл бұрын
@@louisecorchevolle9241 Ah, yes. That's why we try to confine it's use to the Northern most parts of Sweden.
@AK-ns4kn
@AK-ns4kn 2 жыл бұрын
I think, sir, that there is an another factor rarely spoken of. Namely: the war in former Yugoslavia. That was a shock for the Europe - the fact that the fall of Soviet Union and similar states just unfreezed a lot of old grievances and local competitions (the elephant in the room was e.g. Hungary which had territorial grievances towards almost all of its neighbors and was speaking about it pretty openly) and also consequences of this like the genocide during this (Balkan) war. Which on the other hand hastened reactions later in the case of Kosovo. For some extend the NATO serves (or served) as a container putting all these, often growling on each other, countries in one basket of an alliance: "you cannot kill each other while being in the same happy family with Uncle Sam. Behave kids". ANd there was this Central-European+Baltics factor which today, after the invasion on Ukraine might be called "I told'ya so!" moment.
@Redfizh
@Redfizh 2 жыл бұрын
Your account is is 4 days old.
@AK-ns4kn
@AK-ns4kn 2 жыл бұрын
@@Redfizh so? (You do realize taht ist a date of activation the account on YT - which force you to create the channel just to comment - not the actual account creation date).
@gilbertoescobar5814
@gilbertoescobar5814 9 ай бұрын
Sir could you make a video possibly looking at the cartel issue? I'm just curious on your analysis on the cartel and corruption with 🇲🇽 Government and possibly corruption with U.S. Department of defense via border control? I'm not sure if your any interested in it but I see your outside perspective of subjects is brilliant. I think of myself as a open minded individual but you can elaborate better than me I believe. I'm no professional in anything but I'm Interested in the whole process of breakdowns and analyzing issues.
@rolandgustafsson5655
@rolandgustafsson5655 2 жыл бұрын
I understood that Sweden is looking for Nato membership when the Swedish government announced that they will increase the defense budget too 2% and that is what Nato want the Nato members to spend on their own defense 🤔
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
now the of Sweden budget is 1.2 % contrary was conférencier says You will buy F35 bad and expensive, instead off Jas Gripen cheap and excellent then US military industrial complex will train swedes lmilitary industry as they do for France
@OliverMillin
@OliverMillin 2 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity - Does anyone know what happens if they get attacked between the time their application has been lodged and when it is approved? EG do they become a protectorate of NATO during this period or would the attacker have a small window to attack them and take control of their government to withdraw the application before it ratifies? Or if they are 'at war' does this then make them an illegible candidate (because they have an 'ongoing conflict').
@FelixMeister
@FelixMeister 2 жыл бұрын
From what I understand when they apply a special temporary guarantee, the functional equivalent of article 5 will be granted. The 'ongoing conflict' exclusion isn't a hard and fast rule but more of a guideline so that there's a measure of stability to those countries joining NATO. And it's in reference to when they apply, so doesn't count if they apply and someone attacks them after that point. But it probably would if they applied then went and invaded/attacked someone else. Sort of like a 'we don't want crazy fuckheads in our club' clause.
@watershed8685
@watershed8685 2 жыл бұрын
@@FelixMeister there’s no such thing as automatic temporary guarantee but in case of Sweden and Finland it would apply if key members of NATO decide they are obligated to protect the candidate states who were long-standing partners of NATO. Some members might refuse to act but it would likely backfire quite spectacularly because key members entering into conflict would elicit retaliation on Russia’s part and thus trigger article 5. Forsaking a call of article 5 would mean their eventual ousting from NATO and even entail sanctions or other negative consequences for breach of trust and commitment. And there’s a huge damage to its reputation as such a country would be considered an unreliable partner, making it much harder to enter in other long-term agreements, be they security or economy related.
@FelixMeister
@FelixMeister 2 жыл бұрын
@@watershed8685 sorry. I didn't mean to imply that this is a normal thing. Discussion has been had between Finland and NATO about security guarantees in the case of potential Russian belligerence. This is being handled, from what I'm aware, as a special case.
@Isinlor
@Isinlor 2 жыл бұрын
Separately from NATO, Sweden and Finland enjoy also mutual defense clause of EU treaties. Article 42 point 7 of the Treaty on European Union: If a Member State is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other Member States shall have towards it an obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power, in accordance with Article 51 of the United Nations Charter. This shall not prejudice the specific character of the security and defence policy of certain Member States.
@cYYAN88
@cYYAN88 2 жыл бұрын
Boris Johnson is in Sweden today actually to sign security assurance while the progress happens. US also said they would help and I believe macron said similar. The latter two isnt in writing though, UK assurance supposedly will be later today.
@rree9550
@rree9550 2 жыл бұрын
oh stubb.. that himboy... greetings from helsinki
@pete2363
@pete2363 2 жыл бұрын
use the screen to put up illustrative stats. e.g. you mentioned 12 founding NATO member states, but dont list them. put it up beside you on the screen maybe
@manuelarias9158
@manuelarias9158 2 жыл бұрын
So I reckon that in the end the 1000+km of new Nato border with Russia comes out as even or winning situation due to compability rather than plain strenght
@markusnurminen2103
@markusnurminen2103 2 жыл бұрын
Lets see those 3 points.
@Damadoo
@Damadoo 2 жыл бұрын
Ratification by end 2022 sounds slow considering that this is a dangerous phase. Why is a "fast track" of two "up to NATO compatible and level equipped" candidates so slow? I am ignorant of the process.
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
if Finland and sweden do no fear russianhypersonic missiles it is not dangerous; your brothers, Danes and Norwegian will protect you
@mattiaslarsson5868
@mattiaslarsson5868 2 жыл бұрын
And this was the lecture which John Mearsheimer missed out on.
@martinwest2538
@martinwest2538 4 ай бұрын
I've already posted this comment elsewhere, but it fits well under this title too: It's sad to say I really don't feel the security in Finland has increased since we joined NATO. Quite on the contrary. The reason is simple: NATO is the arch enemy of Russia, and thus Finland has now after a long period of friendly relations officially declared that Russia is our enemy. As Russia needs to protect itself from NATO, this eventually will bring Russian military hardware along the whole Finnish 1300 km long border. If Finland stupidly wants an U.S. military base and American troops on the ground, it will be considered as a rude move by Russia and will probably have serious implications in turn. The biggest insanity would be to allow nuclear weapons to be installed on Finnish territory, since this would be a direct threat against Moscow and St. Petersburg. The Russians would hardly allow this to happen.
@kleinpca
@kleinpca 2 жыл бұрын
Canada is a founding member of NATO. Not sure why everyone seems to forget that.
@talideon
@talideon 2 жыл бұрын
It's because everybody tends to forget Canada.
@daniellarson3068
@daniellarson3068 2 жыл бұрын
@@talideon Second largest country in the world - Kind of hard to forget. The country that really gets forgotten is New Zealand.
@sanataj
@sanataj 2 жыл бұрын
@@daniellarson3068 They both get forgotten, I think because they are not loud and brash and not trying to dominate and compete for world supremacy.
@talideon
@talideon 2 жыл бұрын
@@daniellarson3068 Second largest country in the world... that also happens to have most of its population in a thin strip along its southern border, and that sits right next the the one remaining superpower. I like Canada, but Canada gets forgotten for the very same reasons as NZ does: its neighbour.
@daniellarson3068
@daniellarson3068 2 жыл бұрын
@@talideon True - Australia is always in the news. NZ is only in the news when they have an earthquake or similar issue.
@elite3x6g80
@elite3x6g80 2 жыл бұрын
Will there be a national vote on this matter or will the governments decide on their own?
@rikukoskela2791
@rikukoskela2791 2 жыл бұрын
You clearly do not understand the democratic parliamentary system. The parliament is made up of community representatives that are voted into the parliament by the voting citizens. The parliamentary representatives then have a set period where they make decisions on the citizens behalf. If the community does not like the parliamentarian, they vote in a new representative at the next election. This is unlike Russian federation, which is led by a dictator and squashes any form of community involvement. Your welcome
@elite3x6g80
@elite3x6g80 2 жыл бұрын
@@rikukoskela2791 I'd rather have it as national vote. Don't think NATO was even mentioned in the representatives bios for whom I voted for. But thanks for the answer Riku
@verpal7920
@verpal7920 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Russia and watch your channel trying to understand this war. But I still don't ((
@mortmortannon6640
@mortmortannon6640 2 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to know more about Nato’s situation in the Kosovo war. This gets brought up a lot nowadays as an example why Russia sees Nato as a potential agressor. Would have loved to hear your view on this.
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan 2 жыл бұрын
serbia was accused, charged,proven and sentenced before an international court of genocide massmurder and other warcrimes. That serbia required the intervention of nato armies. (naturally, since countries that live next door represent the bulk of nato - forget the yankees for a minute. Not all is about americans all the time. On the 10th June - an UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL issued resolution 1244 - which settled the NATO security contingency Kosovo Force (KFOR) Since most nato countries lived in europe, and right next to the warzone it made sense that not some japanese or new-zealanders come to do the job. - europe/nato stepped in under codename "KFOR" and started to protect civillians. Wherever you get the story from, if the serbian war crimes are not mentioned - then it is russian/serbia-fed lies. I remember we had shitloads of refugees from bosniaherzegovina - because of seribians targetting civillians in good old ussr fashion. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f5qAfM-XndfWnWw.html
@phobos2077_
@phobos2077_ 2 жыл бұрын
He seems to keep avoiding this topic a lot. Maybe because it's uncomfortable to talk about in depth for an avid NATO supporter like him.
@JamesC785
@JamesC785 2 жыл бұрын
NATO was stopping genocide essentially. Maybe he'll do a talk on it later.
@gustavmeyrink_2.0
@gustavmeyrink_2.0 2 жыл бұрын
NATO intervened to uphold UN Security Council Resolution 1199 which passed with 14 votes in favour and 1 abstention. The single abstention was by China in other words Russia voted in favour together with permanent members France, UK and USA plus the non-permanent members at the time which were Bahrain, Brazil, Costa Rica,Gabon, Gambia, Japan, Kenya, Portugal, Slovenia and Sweden. The resolution called for cessation of hostilities and a lasting ceasefire. Also included was a clause saying that 'further measures would be taken to restore peace and security' if hostilities continued. Bottom line: Russia voted for the resolution and any further consequences.
@goldreserve
@goldreserve 2 жыл бұрын
George Washington University has a 35 year old freedom of request information archive called National Security Archive. There is very likely to be something there. I've only just found it. First page I read shows that Yeltsin was mislead over the Partnership for Peace (or he was too drunk to understand) that is was a prelude to gradual Nato expansion. Yeltsin quote 'That's genius'.
@zacharydavis4398
@zacharydavis4398 2 жыл бұрын
12:01 - 12:12 👏🏾🙏🏾
@nunogonzalez4037
@nunogonzalez4037 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the speaker committed an important oversight when he did not mention the bombings carried out by Nato on Serbia without ONU support in 1999. Regardless of the bombing justification (I think it was right) that event would have serious repercussions. Putin would justify 22 years later the Invasion of Ukraine with that NATO action intervention. A "peace intervention" to protect a minority from genocide.
@notapilot1
@notapilot1 2 жыл бұрын
I woud like to hear a talk on Turkey, at the southern flank of NATO. Turkey is in an interesting situation because of the Bosporus, a maritime chokepoint at the entrance to the Black Sea. Russia, I think, has been striving militarily to ensure its commercial access to the Black Sea, but Turkey is in a position to make this a moot question. Right now Turkey is behaving like a neutral state with regards to Russian activities, but will that change?
@fiddede5229
@fiddede5229 2 жыл бұрын
That is not true. If you start to count how many drones they have provided to ukraine. I really dont get it either because turkey have good relationship with russia so why russia haven't start to scream at erdogan?🤔 That's really confusing
@disregardthat
@disregardthat 2 жыл бұрын
@@fiddede5229 remember that the drones are made by a private company, the Turkish government is merely approving their sale. politically, Erdogan has attempted to take a "neutral"-ish stance due to his good relations with Russia. he has had Turkish diplomats moderating the Russia-Ukraine negotiations, which is actually an excellent use of Turkey's position as both a Russia-friendly state and also a NATO member
@fiddede5229
@fiddede5229 2 жыл бұрын
@@disregardthat Ahaa i didn´t know that. So thank you for clarifying that for me :) So now i know ;) Have a great weekend :)
@disregardthat
@disregardthat 2 жыл бұрын
@@fiddede5229 no problem, it is an interesting situation with Turkey, I only learned it because I went digging in the news from other languages with google translate lol. you enjoy your weekend too!
@sampza00
@sampza00 2 жыл бұрын
what!? cant be! a civil discussion in youtube comment section on a video about russo-ukrainian war? unbelievable.
@siniaura
@siniaura 2 жыл бұрын
Hei Stubb, ootko käyny Dialogia Lavrovin kanssa? ;)
@politicabritanicaynorteame9266
@politicabritanicaynorteame9266 2 жыл бұрын
I think you forget about Spain, if I remember well we entered in 1986. Y, po cierto, es posible que su país, Finlandia, y Suecia, ingresen en la Alianza, es decir, que se apruebe su ingreso, en la cumbre de la OTAN en Madrid el próximo mes de junio. Saludos desde España 🇪🇸 y bienvenidos al Club OTAN.
@santoriniblue8413
@santoriniblue8413 2 жыл бұрын
I think the least Spain could do is ask for all its national territory to be covered by NATO, a glaring anomaly in face of a southern neighbour who is not precisely friendly to it. Turkey is surely going to end approving the membership of Sweden and Finland, but it has put its concerns on the table and surely shall get some guarantee either from NATO or of the candidates regarding its concern. Seeing some foreign policians compared to our domestic, it sparks envy at the intellectual and patriotism of these statesmen versus the short term vision and wasteland policy carried out by a chaste only worried about their personal interests. But politician don't come from another planet, they are a reflection of its society that votes for them. No wonder the country suffers "brain drain".
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to buy us weapons Club complex militaro industrial US
@Orga50
@Orga50 Жыл бұрын
Are you trying to understand through this series of videos or are you trying to make all others understand what you think?
@hellbreaksloose5536
@hellbreaksloose5536 2 жыл бұрын
Would Finland still have conscription even if they join NATO?
@aleksanteriuotila6210
@aleksanteriuotila6210 2 жыл бұрын
In this situation for many years to come. But unfortunately when things cool down in the future its not guaranteed. There was a strong lobby to put it down in early 2000's when nobody tought that major war in Europe would happen again.
@sampza00
@sampza00 2 жыл бұрын
as long as there is any threat to finlands sovereignty by neighboring powers, i do believe conscription will continue to be the best available solution for defense.
@Robertchu
@Robertchu 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about 🇹🇷 and nato? You’re talking about values and everything members have in common, but 🇹🇷 doesn’t seem to fit in. 🇹🇷 today is clearly a dictatorship quite similar to Russia. Moreover, no one in nato seems to care about Turkish incursions in Syria and Iraq. Maybe it’s a hot topic for a former Finish prime minister given Erdogan’s recent attempt at blocking Finland’s application for nato membership. Nevertheless, I would love to hear your thoughts on Turkey’s role in the alliance and the current situation.
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
turkey it is not important it is only the second army of Nato ( when you are a salesman for Nato)
@Robertchu
@Robertchu 2 жыл бұрын
@@louisecorchevolle9241 thx, maybe I don't need any further explanation after all, this makes sense
@harrywoods9784
@harrywoods9784 2 жыл бұрын
Just a thought, Enjoy all your videos’ The failure of the Soviet union may be echoed By the failure of the Russian federation
@daniellarson3068
@daniellarson3068 2 жыл бұрын
It's kind of like the last gasp of the Soviet Union. Have you noticed that all the guys in charge of Russia are old Soviet KGB people? After they die out, Russia may make real progress for it's people.
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
the rouble not yet has fall it is boosted by sanctions and has more value than before the war
@Soordhin
@Soordhin 2 жыл бұрын
KFOR is still active in Kosovo. And is still needed as a peacekeeping force.
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
a maffia state liked to Albanias maffias drugs killings and prostitution
@chrisrosenkreuz23
@chrisrosenkreuz23 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Nato was formed as a response to the soviet threat. It's natural for them to call Nato a threat considering they are the actual threat to others. It's almost like bullies never factor themselves into their own logic. Must be lonely.
@jaimepatena7372
@jaimepatena7372 2 жыл бұрын
It is called projection.
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
but Ukraine is never be in Nato the only who has been invaded Georgia was a response to georgian russophones
@rathelmmc3194
@rathelmmc3194 2 жыл бұрын
I’m really curious on if this could happen. It seems to me that both Finland and Japan (maybe others) could apply extra pressure on Russia by demanding their annexed territory to be returned under threat of military action. It seems that if Russia thinks it’s okay to annex what they think is theirs then why couldn’t other countries annex back territory that Russia stole? Thoughts?
@rree9550
@rree9550 2 жыл бұрын
yeah... weed is the answer...
@terrymoore861
@terrymoore861 2 жыл бұрын
NATO were collapsing and failing to elicit support without a war so a war with Russia will help to save NATO from collapse and finally be seen to be needed.
@Raikenbolai
@Raikenbolai 2 жыл бұрын
"In response to NATO considering Russia a threat merely by it's existence, Russia began to perceive NATO as an existential threat." Well said Prof Stubb
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
contrary of what James Baker and Bush senior promisses nato advanced to russian border
@terrygreene1395
@terrygreene1395 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t you think that when the Soviet Union collapsed back in 1991, that if NATO had designs of conquering Russia as its reason for existence, that it would have done so then?
@alexandervandevelde2311
@alexandervandevelde2311 Жыл бұрын
Turkey and Hungary will see about that timeframe.
@gurusandirasegaram1171
@gurusandirasegaram1171 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant explanation. I believe abstain is correct. ( UN vote) Many countries has no clue about Ukraine war including myself. Ukraine’s historian gave me an explanation Who created Ukraine war & why ? What was a problem in Donbas & Crimea ? Konigsberg became Kaliningrad because Germany attacked the USSR in 1941 killing more than 20 million civilians. There figures hide a variety of types of violence nowadays. This has been repeated since 2014 in Ukraine. Where on may 2014 nationalists from western Ukraine came to Odessa & buried 48 local residents alive.for expressing their own opinion in the city square.( with the help of UK & USA) After the 2014 coup in Ukraine the influence of nationalists ( Nazis hooligans) the name has no matter.but only their crime has intensified among these nazis hooligans & There descendants of those who served Hitler This for an example This Galitchina detachment with their crime Volyn massacres against civilians. After 2014 Ukraine began to distort its view of the history of the Second World War. This expressed in the fact that in the best case an equal sign is drawn. Between the attacking Germans and the liberated soldiers of the USSR Such a sign of equality is a betrayal of those who thanks to whom we are alive. This was a reason that Donbas & Crimea do not want to be with Ukrainian. In response for 8years Ukrainian mines and shells have been falling on the heads of Donbas residents. So many adults and children were killed & torn apart. MSM will not show this to west world & 3rd world audience. Therefore Putin hesitated for a long time whether to take a active action. Because it already happened in 2008 when Georgia attacked Ossetia & Russian soldiers stood up for Ossetia.-squeezing Georgian soldiers back into Georgia. but the MSM did not show part of the conflict. When Georgia attacked Ossetia MSM began to show the conflict. Only after Russia joined.at the same time they showed the Ossetian city of Tskhenvali destroyed by the Georgians during the offensive & at the same time they said that it was the Georgians city of Gori. Russia is most maligned country and the most conscientious country in foreign policy through the prayers of despair of people from God gave Russia a good president. I asked my final question to Ukrainian historian Who do you support? Ukrainian or Russian He mentioned to me that our generation escaped from Hitler & settled down in Canada. Therefore I support Denazification.
@argentaamore
@argentaamore 2 жыл бұрын
In this Nr 8 there's nothing new compared to ur past lectures. Pls add concrete fact or delay the lectures until there's something note worthy. I'm a big fan of yours - very well spoken
@TorianTammas
@TorianTammas 2 жыл бұрын
Just don't watch. There are a lot of information you just have no use for them.
@rockflowerful
@rockflowerful 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you again for the clarity. Am I wrong in thinking that all? Most? members of NATO are not actively against anyone, Russia included. We just pray that demonstrating we are united to protect all members from attack by others , will give potentially aggressive entities pause for thought? Though I understand why Finland and Sweden have to emphasize this point just now. Is it true that Russia with the kind of government it endures, needs something like NATO, to scare their own people into accepting the governance they have. The existence of NATO is used as a tool, a threat to keep their people afraid of what is outside their borders , rather than fear of what is within their own borders?
@goldreserve
@goldreserve 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but switch things around. After the collapse of the Soviet Union Boris Yeltsin stated he wanted Russia to join Nato. It was proposed that Nato would be replaced with the Partnership for Peace. Why didn't US want Russia in the Partnership for Peace/Nato? Two likely reasons: Justification of astronomical US military budget requires constant wars/potential enemies. Russia refused US companies to develop Russian resources.
@rockflowerful
@rockflowerful 2 жыл бұрын
@@goldreserve I take your point and it is a good one, I am afraid greedy self interest is universal. I also have great sympathy for the ordinary Russian person, after the collapse of the Soviet era, there was all this hope that democracy would sweep in and be wonderful. It took centuries for democracies to develop in the West…….was it ever going to happen over night in Russia? So they experienced chaos. From what I have read as an ordinary citizen, the country became a kleptocracy with the opportunistic stealing vast wealth from the Russian people. We too were giddy with optimism, thinking all our worries were over. Was it possible we could have helped more, trusted more? I don’t know, we do know that Democratic government is very far from perfect but so far it is the best option.
@sampza00
@sampza00 2 жыл бұрын
@@rockflowerful well said
@MPD1337
@MPD1337 2 жыл бұрын
read the thumbnail title and was "why would the world health organization be joining NATO?" :)))) rofl
@1701Larry
@1701Larry 2 жыл бұрын
OK ------ 4:! The M-777 155mm Gun could be Ukraine's SUPER WEAPON to WIN this WAR!!! But the current American M-777, 155mm gun only has a short 39cal. Steel barrel that is even inferior to the 42cal Steel barrels in most of Nato's inventories... Giving the Short barrel M-777 a projectile range of only 23 miles with the standard M-795 round. But the M-777 gun America is giving Ukraine could have a range of over 43 miles (instead of just 23miles) with the same M-795 round using a new High Tech long 58cal Barrel (replacing the M-777 old tech steel short 39cal barrel) that is now being field-tested by a Battalion of M-109 Self Propelled Superguns (that truly look beautiful with their long barrels). The new high-tech none steel barrel is a Composite Carbon case, Titanium sleeved long 58cal Ultra High-pressure Marvel of American Engineering... The high-pressure 58cal (30 feet long) barrel using supercharged propellant (that would blow up the average steel barrel) gives the M-777 155mm Super Gun a range of 60 miles firing the new XM1113 projectile... and over 150+ miles with the new subcaliber Hypervelocity GPS guided projectile. Making the M-777 a terror for all Russians in Ukraine... Allowing Ukraine to finally take back (freeing) the Crimea and the Donbas without suffering massive Ukrainian casualties... K ------- America needs to send the Battalion of new M-109 Super Gun, long-barreled 58cal guns to Ukraine for testing in real combat (instead of blowing craters in the Texas desert), which would be followed by the new high tech SUPER BARREL Kits for Ukraine's M-777 guns (the new lightweight composite 58cal 30-foot long barrels {same weight and balance as the 39cal steel barrels in both the M777 and M109} simply slide into the gun carriages of both weapons, replacing the original 39 cal barrels without any major modifications). That could number 1,000 M-777 Superguns deployed to Ukraine in a short time if they are pulled from American storage Depots that are waiting to be scrapped... (in addition to the measly 90 the US is sending now...) Giving Ukraine the Numbers to finally have a chance against a Russia that has thousands of big guns more than Ukrain but lack the range of the M-777 SUPER GUN that would be able to sit back and safely SNIPE the Russian big guns and their ammunition depots into oblivion no matter how many Putin sends...!!! Finally giving Ukraine an advantage they Desperately need...!!! As the Russians both outnumber Ukrain in weapons and manpower...!!! Ukraine has been refused modern fighters but with enough M-777 and M-109 guns, Ukraine can make up for what they cannot do without new fighters they can not get!!! Win this WAR!!! K1 ----!!! Please call and write President Biden and your Congressmen in the House and Senate to demand that Ukraine get the thousand M-777 and hundreds M-109 guns from our storage depots NOW, with the SUPER GUN 58cal upgrade kits following as soon as they are produced on the production line now making the test barrels for the M-109 Supergun...!!! That will stop the Russians in their tracks from taking any more Ukraine cities to torcher innocent local civilian men, Rape women and children then murder and bury them in mass Graves...Thank You...!!!!
@CrazyHeross
@CrazyHeross 2 жыл бұрын
??? XD
@silkeschumann7261
@silkeschumann7261 2 жыл бұрын
Russia for the time being is trapped by the "Russian Soul" but even more so by a fascist religious right. The younger generation was very much exposed to western culture and adopted many mind frames, so should Russia collapse and a new government emerge that is actually willing to find its own way somewhere between communism and capitalism, Russia may find that the generation taking over in 10+ years may very well seek to be part of Europe and work towards this goal in a time frame of 25 to 30 years from then on. Provided Europe can hold on to the ideas and doesn't destroy itself.
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
for the moment there are more fascist in Ukraine Azov bataillon and the national hero is Stepan bandera a nazi collaborator. If you say that to a russia he vill not accept russia estimates that they made a large part of the job agains Hitle ; 20 million deaths
@silkeschumann7261
@silkeschumann7261 2 жыл бұрын
@@louisecorchevolle9241 Russia is a disinformation spit fire. You can't any source. And currently there isn't a country in the world where there isn't an active fascist group, some more some less. Russia is full blown fascist. Not because all the people are, but because the regime is with Putin at the helm. And this will be my last comment on the subject in this thread.
@PaulKRedd
@PaulKRedd Жыл бұрын
NATO, an alliance or a dependency? Collective or reliance on USA? Please discuss the extent to which the USA has really carried the burden of blood and treasure for NATO and whether this is sustainable. I.E: Why is the USA the primary guarantor of the borders of Lithuania? Should not the Europeans carry more of the load of a European collective defense?
@belisarius2776
@belisarius2776 2 жыл бұрын
There are people all over the world that are blaming NATO for the war in Ukraine. I would be interested in your opinion
@stischer47
@stischer47 2 жыл бұрын
And NATO will remember that when they get into a jam and start crying for help.
@MegaWunna
@MegaWunna 2 жыл бұрын
If my country of Sweden joined nato we have protection of Nato and Nato's Article 5 is like this "Collective defence means that an attack against one Ally is considered as an attack against all Allies" Sweden is an EU member at the moment at least we have eu's article 42.7 which is a mutal defence clause. From Eu's article 42.7 is like this "This clause provides that if an EU country is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other EU countries have an obligation to aid and assist it by all the means in their power, in accordance with Article 51 of the United Nations"
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
so why you join Nato without referendum 5 months of general election because Carl Bild, an American agent you have even nuclear protection of France but you need Mac Donald an they will loot your military complex
@jeffreywall4818
@jeffreywall4818 2 жыл бұрын
The Swedes don’t bring much - the Finns yes but not the Swedes. They have gone from an 800,000 man army organized in 21 brigades [a flexible and powerful combined arms combat organization] to an army of 6,000; they call it a "professional defense force" . They spend a meager 0.93% of their GDP on defense and have divested most of their military assets on the world arms market much of it to the UK. Sweden would be a drag on NATO, not an asset.
@Aoskar95
@Aoskar95 2 жыл бұрын
Where are you getting your numbers from. Sweden has about 50.000 soldiers and is increasing defense spending. Sweden also has an incredibly well established and efficient arms industry with some of the most advanced equipment available.
@mattiaslarsson5868
@mattiaslarsson5868 2 жыл бұрын
The Finns brings a big asset but you may not be aware that the we (the Swedes) have 100 top modern JAS39 FIGHTER jets ready to respond day or night all year round. We also patrol the sea with top modern sub marines and an outstanding navy (check out the Visby Corvette). On top of that we have one of the world's most advanced anti-missile system Patriot. We also know how to use them. Our government are making historic findings to increase all of this and more. So if you count power in numbers, yes we're small, but I think the war in Ukraine has proven that shear number doesn't do it all the way in modern warfare.
@claudiomannoni5557
@claudiomannoni5557 2 жыл бұрын
Around point 2….Actually Russian December 2021 request to NATO was to get back at 1999 extension … thanks Mr. Stubb for your views
@SL-sd3sg
@SL-sd3sg 2 жыл бұрын
Professionalism of Putin’s army is questionable
@rree9550
@rree9550 2 жыл бұрын
so is your syntax
@artemkazakov5974
@artemkazakov5974 Жыл бұрын
This point of view on NATO can hardly be supported by all the actions it took in Serbia and Iraq. That was not legal in the language of international law. Surprised to see such week arguments by such high government official
@squirepraggerstope3591
@squirepraggerstope3591 2 жыл бұрын
Er, applictions are open to all European states (REAL definition of "European" btw, NOT just states that are EU members) who are willing to take on the conditions of membrship. That does NOT mean membership follows automatically. The existing NATO members must still agree to accept the candidate.
@TorianTammas
@TorianTammas 2 жыл бұрын
26 European countries are in the EU so not much left as they form 14 trillion GDP.
@squirepraggerstope3591
@squirepraggerstope3591 2 жыл бұрын
@@TorianTammas So what? It seems completely unrelated and indeed irrelevant to the point I made. Alas, it's also inccurate as you're clearly including Finland and Sweden too, although neither have as yet even formally submitted applications to join NATO. Though as I did already state, in their cases I hope both WILL join the alliance soon. Purely because they are entirely compatible with NATO ON THEIR OWN MERITS and irrespective of their current status as EU member states.
@TheNordmo
@TheNordmo 2 жыл бұрын
if Russia withdraws from all of Ukraine and battles for all the destruction they have inflicted on the country. And starting to behave like a civilized country, then Russia has nothing to fear
@albertamodia294
@albertamodia294 9 ай бұрын
Why NATO enlarged
@pungwem4306
@pungwem4306 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think Nato is good organisation for Europa or you are calling the war to comme to Europe ?
@irishboy4853
@irishboy4853 2 жыл бұрын
Sweden became neutral in the 1800 after a census revealed its population was only 1 million and the King at the time thought its was 5 million. he realised they couldn't win another war and became neutral after centuries of being a waring state
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
it was also a consequence of Poltava battle a day Sweden never more in history became a super power It was Ukrainian cossak leader Mazzepa who promised a lot of cossaks to the Swedish king But Peter the Great bribed a large parted them to his side so Carl XII lost
@bishopofsahs
@bishopofsahs 2 жыл бұрын
What is it that I like this guy I think what it is I just like Finland so I guess anybody from Finland I like unless they’re from Russia that emigrated to Finland I don’t like them I don’t like rush at all I mean at all I just I think there are bastards
@quietcorner293
@quietcorner293 2 жыл бұрын
I am 99.9% sure that NATO members do not have to respond if a NATO member initiates the attack. Is that right? A good example, IMO, would be the Iraq war where countries like Canada did not take part.
@magnushem8734
@magnushem8734 2 жыл бұрын
Correct. NATO wasn’t involved in Vietnam or Iraq or any other unnecessary war. Article 5 can only be invoked upon unprovoked attacked on own territory. It has happened only once, September 11, 2001 where NATO took actions against the Taliban regime.
@jansix4287
@jansix4287 2 жыл бұрын
The Taliban didn’t attack the US, they just housed al-Qaida. Which was reason enough for the US to attack them with Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF). Many countries including muslim countries voluntarily participated in this US-led war, which was part defensive part offensive. Separately from that NATO organized an International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) for Afghanistan based on a UN mandate. This was basically a peace-keeping mission without blue helmets and white tanks.
@jansix4287
@jansix4287 2 жыл бұрын
@Márcio Oliveira And it cost them $ 2 trillion and 4,500 death soldiers.
@Itapirkanmaa2
@Itapirkanmaa2 2 жыл бұрын
Slava Rossiya! Sori siitä!
@divinethunder6020
@divinethunder6020 2 жыл бұрын
Was founded because of Josef Vissarionivich Dgushvilli. Ask his ghost.
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
by Leon Bronstein in my opinion
@divinethunder6020
@divinethunder6020 2 жыл бұрын
+@@louisecorchevolle9241 Lev Trotsky founded NATO Haaaaaaa!
@pr0newbie
@pr0newbie 2 жыл бұрын
Good. Keep the proxy wars in Europe. I hate the words "pivot to Asia". It's definitely not for peace and prosperity.
@raymondreaney6988
@raymondreaney6988 2 жыл бұрын
Well presented video! I wish NATO'S primary goal wasn't defense against Russia but simply the defense of Europe and member nations. People seem to think that NATO just kept us safe from the USSR when really it stopped European nations from attacking each other as well. Well if you look at the last 70 years its not been Europe who has started all the wars. Yes Europe has helped in some wars / sent troops or supplies to some wars, but its not been Europe starting them. In fact since NATO Europe has stopped fighting itself and stopped starting wars, so part of NATO is stopping Europe from eating itself and going to war again. Like anyone who knows the history of Europe knows that Europe has had thousands of years worth of warfare, until the point that virtually every nation in Europe has fought each other, more than once. My guess is without NATO we would have seen more wars in Europe by now as some idiot leader would have got in power and tried to delete their neighbors. Defending against Russia is a possibility but should not be the focus or prime mission. I also think NATO should give Russia some guarantees not to attack / not to launch nukes unless fired upon first ect. I'm not sure if they have already but NATO could even promise to come and help Russia in case of major natural disaster, things such as massive earthquakes, asteroids and so on. The prime mission of NATO shouldn't really be defending against Russia, in fact maybe the prime goal should be to befriend Russia / heal wounds with Russia / work with Russia. NATO has made some mistakes, NATO has expanding further than promised, Russia does have concerns so they should be addressed by NATO and not ignored. I like NATO, I see the point of NATO, but honestly NATO is a bit crap if its only real mission is just to protect against Russia. I would be looking at a total rethink / reorganization of NATO and its polices, along with addressing Russia's security concerns properly. I do welcome Finland and Sweden to NATO however if Russia doesn't want large NATO forces or missile sites in Finland then maybe NATO need to look at honoring that and telling Russia. NATO was suppose to be about Europe where at the moment it just feels we are fighting a proxy war because the USA doesn't like Russia. That should not be the aim of NATO.
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
not even at level of gymnasium
@mixxeerr
@mixxeerr 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you not address Russia's legitimate concerns about Nato expansion eastward? Why was there a necessity to keep expanding Nato eastward when the better option was to keep a better power balance between NATO and Russia?
@varana
@varana 2 жыл бұрын
There are no "legitimate concerns". NATO is a defensive alliance. Russia's "concerns" about NATO are only substantial in the case of Russia attacking or using other kinds of force on _other_ countries - like Ukraine, or the Baltics, or Finland, etc. Russia _chose_ to see NATO as their primary enemy, it is by no means a foregone conclusion. The main effect of NATO enlargement is preventing Russia from exerting dominance over countries on their periphery. Being able to bully others around you is not a "legitimate concern", though.
@mixxeerr
@mixxeerr 2 жыл бұрын
@@varana NATO is not a pure defensive alliance. That's insane. Do you know how many operations it has carried out offensively in the last 20+ years? Do you know how many interventions to non NATO countries it has carried out? Sorry but NATO is definitely not a pure defensive alliance.
@varana
@varana 2 жыл бұрын
@@mixxeerr Two and two halves. One in Kosovo, one in Libya. Operations in Bosnia and Afghanistan were UN operations carried out (in the case of Afghanistan: together with many others) by NATO. The US and NATO are different entities. Not every war that the US is involved in, is automatically a NATO operation. (The same goes for Turkey in Syria, for instance.) In wars like Iraq 2003 all major NATO countries except the UK told the US to eff off, basically.
@mixxeerr
@mixxeerr 2 жыл бұрын
@bruce parka If NATO steps outside its borders in order to do “peacekeeping missions” or to enforce no fly zones that becomes offensive. You’re stepping outside of your jurisdiction, which should always have been within your own borders and not within the internal affairs of other nations. NATO has become a clique.
@Kavala76
@Kavala76 Жыл бұрын
Stubb should appear holding NATO coloured pom-poms. He's such a shameless cheerleader for the west.
@annehersey9895
@annehersey9895 Жыл бұрын
If NATO is 'open to any European country who wants to join and follow the rules', then WHY was Ukraine not admitted when it has wanted to be? Even now with Ukraine's recent application for expedited membership, I've heard retired Generals and different people say it was doubtful Ukraine could join. NATO has never said that before about a country and it is upsetting to me. Yes, they border Russia but so does Finland and Estonia. I think it is because NATO is afraid still that it would be a provocation to Russia. I say Hogwash! By virtue of Russia breaking the unspoken Gentleman's Agreement of the UN that border disputes are only to be settled by dialog and then to threaten that they were very willing to use Nukes, Russia has lost any hope for a seat at the table. IN fact, the countries that NEED to join NATO the most are those that DO border Russia because Putin has shown that Russia can NOT be trusted to keep its word or adhere to treaties. Had Ukraine been a member, Putin would never have invaded or if he had and article 5 had been invoked, this war would have already been over and done!
@Latexi_LMX
@Latexi_LMX 2 жыл бұрын
Smart dude, Alex please consider Finnish presidency when Sale retires, thank you.
@amadeuz8161
@amadeuz8161 2 жыл бұрын
No, he might be a smart guy but his political views are fcked up.
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 жыл бұрын
@@amadeuz8161 you make the finish election here
@Mt-uy5wi
@Mt-uy5wi 2 жыл бұрын
Considering that Putin said West promised Nato wouldn't expand (and he repeatedly mentions it). Please could you be so kind to let us know what you think about it? I know it is complicated, but I guess it is worth to understand better Ukraine war
@TheLivirus
@TheLivirus 2 жыл бұрын
I hoped Alexander had addressed the risk that Finland's movement towards NATO membership increases tensions in the region to the point where it sparks a greater war.
@nonjabulongcobo729
@nonjabulongcobo729 2 жыл бұрын
You mean Putin was friendly with NATo at the time😂I doubt it was whole of Russia
@Ratselmeister
@Ratselmeister 2 жыл бұрын
He is not an independent Profesor. He is a member of the finish pro-EU party Kansallinen Kokoomus and former ministerpresident of finland.
@trulydeadly
@trulydeadly 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he mentioned this many times
@Ratselmeister
@Ratselmeister 2 жыл бұрын
@@trulydeadly So he should shut up! He wanted to end Nordstream long before the war in 2009! He is just led by anti russian and anti german policy!
@dancingduckling1435
@dancingduckling1435 2 жыл бұрын
Like literally starts the series of with an extensive description of his history, views, and biases.....
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