Understanding Total Eclipse Of The Heart

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6 жыл бұрын

Some songs are obviously interesting and deserving of study, but others... others surprise you. I'll be honest, when I got the request to look at Bonnie Tyler's Total Eclipse of the Heart I wasn't expecting much, but I'm happy to admit that I was very wrong. Jim Steinman, the composer, baked in a lot of really cool ideas, turning what could've been a pretty straightforward pop ballad into a deep, intricate exercise in harmonic ingenuity. The tools he uses are all pretty simple, but the way he uses them is anything but.
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@12tone 6 жыл бұрын

Hey, folks! These analysis videos are based on suggestions from our Patreon patrons, so if you have a song you'd like to suggest, just head on over to www.patreon.com/12tonevideos and pledge at any level! Here's some more thoughts about this song that I couldn't fit in the video: 1) The tuning. This song uses what I like to call Pantera tuning, which means it's all a quarter-tone flat. The notes you're hearing sit in between the normal notes on a piano. I rounded the names to the regular ones for simplicity, but in fact every note I mention should be half-flat. You can learn more about quarter-tones here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mL13aaZ4sLPSfnU.html 2) The structure. While I talked about things like verses, choruses, and bridges, those aren't really used in standard ways. They play each section once (Ok, technically they play the verse twice but they do them back to back so you can view that as one big section.) and then they just loop through the form a second time with a solo over the verse. Nailing down the "proper" names for various sections was difficult. 3) Passing notes/chords. The arrangement is full of these. They're short little visits to different harmonies that aren't really structurally important but they make the accompaniment sound a whole lot smoother. The most obvious of these is in the breakdown, in the transition from D to Bmi7, where they play an A chord for an eighth note. It doesn't change much but it adds to the falling feel of that section beautifully. There's probably more things too (I know there's some cool stuff going on in the melody.) but those were the ones I was most frustrated that I couldn't find room for.

@ktulu193 6 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised you're familiar with Pantera and their tuning (maybe it's the relaxed, friendly voice). Early Black Sabbath did the same (maybe an eight-tone?) but I think that may have been an artefact from mastering to vinyl. Do you think people can sense this different tuning because most songs are written to A=440?

@TheMetalMusicMachine 6 жыл бұрын

Quarter tones or the speeding up or down of the tape when mastering? In those years when you needed to adjust your master tape in the master plate process, they used to change the speed of the original master track to match certain specifications or spectral corrections (make the record sound brighter or deeper). Just thinking about to retune a grand piano just for a song 😱 (unless that piano is a CP80 but I really doubt it because the lower keys sound like a Grand) ... but... anyways... just wondering... Great analysis... keep on rocking 12Tone!!!

@TheMetalMusicMachine 6 жыл бұрын

That was what I was thinking about... they used to speed up or down for several reasons when printing the master plate!

@planetsoccer99 6 жыл бұрын

I was wondering why it sounded so weird.

@famguy2 6 жыл бұрын

Does this tuning happen in the cover of Come on Eileen, by Save Farris? It Is most definitely not A=440 so I'm curious if this was a purposeful choice.

@shingshongshamalama 6 жыл бұрын

So this song builds up long, abruptly peaks midway through the piece, gets a little bit supernatural, and then fades away to nowhere. Like an eclipse.

@Joe_Yacketori 6 жыл бұрын

1:43 "Major isn't supposed to have a flat seven chord. We're just borrowing it in order to have the same sound." Meanwhile, the mixolydian mode weeps in a corner.

@addyd.3140 6 жыл бұрын

Lol, which is way more common than Ionian in rock music.

@Kylora2112 5 жыл бұрын

Except, mixolydian is probably the most common rock mode, outside of MAYBE natural minor. Or, at least using a major scale for single notes, but using chords from mixolydian.

@JacksonSlayer24 5 жыл бұрын

I thought about it that way at first, but In that specific example he's talking about a relative change from the B minor to D major, so it makes sense to think of it as ionian with a flat 7 rather than start with mixolydian

@everestjarvik5502 5 жыл бұрын

12tone drinking game: take a drink anytime 12tone says "...the idea that different chords in a key have different functions, or jobs to do" exactly like that

@pprovost 6 жыл бұрын

Jim Steinman always writes peculiar progressions that sound simple but are actually quite complex. One of the more interesting composers, IMHO. Very dramatic and energetic, too. Thanks for the analysis. Very interesting, as usual.

@jeffirwin7862 6 жыл бұрын

That was surprisingly complex. I have a new respect for Total Eclipse.

@axelnussbaumer 3 жыл бұрын

I tried singing it as a karaoke song and as I was doing it, I started noticing it was more complex than I realized. Definitely thought, "oh fuck I never noticed there were modulations or whatever just happened, unitl right now". Then I decided to see if there was a 12tone on it, and lo and behold here we are.

@NotJonJost 6 жыл бұрын

Jim Steinman did some really deceptively complex and intricate compositions. But now he's just written off as "that guy who wrote powerballads for Meatloaf" at best. But even then there is a lot to be said for songs like Bat Out Of Hell and Bad For Good and the mostly-forgotten-but-best album "Original Sin" by Pandora's Box.

@felipenocedal3948 6 жыл бұрын

Z C he's a god of music

@YAMMAS 2 жыл бұрын

Original Sin has to be one of my favourite albums of all time.

@beenaplumber8379 2 жыл бұрын

I've never heard anyone dismiss Steinman in any way. I have only heard of reverence for his compositions, even from people who were turned off by Meat Loaf. I can't imagine anyone dismissing Meat Loaf's music either, especially the Bat out of Hell album. I've certainly never heard anyone go there. I absolutely love him as a composer. He helps get me un-stuck in my own music. What would Steinman do here? (What would come next if Meat Loaf was singing?) Sometimes that helps. Not always...

@NotJonJost 2 жыл бұрын

@@beenaplumber8379 Never had someone say anything besides "lol, really?" when I say I like Jim Steinman music a lot.

@TheTrueAltoClef 6 жыл бұрын

0:13 everyone outside of the US feels like you man...

@fizzylimon 6 жыл бұрын

I've always listened to this song and been like "I should sit down and do a harmonic dictation" so thanks for letting me not have to do that, haha. Also-have you seen "Totale Finsternis?" Apparently the composer wrote a German vampire musical and Totale Finsternis is the Act I finale and it's a contrafactum of Total Eclipse of the Heart and it's about the best thing that could have possibly happened to this song

@darkiee69 6 жыл бұрын

The whole musical "Tanz der vampire" is built on Jim Steinman songs, just new lyrics. And I agree, Totale Finsternis is better than the original.

@12tone 6 жыл бұрын

I haven't, I'll look it up!

@YAMMAS 2 жыл бұрын

I never thought I'd be as much a fan of Tanz Der Vampire as I am since I don't know a word of German, but it's such an epic musical and I love it to death. The renditions of the songs in it are amazing.

@ThatMattGoodMusic 6 жыл бұрын

I love approaching sections (especially bridges) in a song with a through composition mindset. I've used it a lot in my songs.

@JVR10893 6 жыл бұрын

Jim Steinman is brilliant. I would love to see you do an analysis of some of his other famous songs namely It's All Coming Back to Me Now by Celine Dion and of course what is arguably his most famous piece: Paradise by the Dashboard Light by Meat Loaf.

@fnjesusfreak 6 жыл бұрын

Céline Dion's version is basically a near-exact clone of the original Pandora's Box version. xD

@crazycakes2008 3 жыл бұрын

@@fnjesusfreakMs Dion's version pisses over the original though. sadly.

@fnjesusfreak 3 жыл бұрын

@@crazycakes2008 Céline Dion is the unquestionably better singer. The backing track is almost identical to the original (natch, both are produced by Steinman).

@langlinaiseiou 6 жыл бұрын

Goodbye Yellow Brick Road is a doozie that I took as a simple pop song. I was wrong in that assumption.

@MrCWL 5 жыл бұрын

I feel justified that I’m onto something smart because I like this song a lot and I can’t explain it musically anywhere like you can, even though guys at work think I’m some kind of wuss or whatever, immasculine or unmanly. But the way this song builds up to that line of “forever’s gonna start tonight!” Is incredible, especially in the second part with the organ or whatever it is, pounding the parallel chords or however you call it, up this ladder, before she screams the last line, it’s just so powerful. I’d turn this song up so loud at work if people would just stop pretending to be seen as tough and just listen to it properly. This is a helluva single, a helluva song. I wish I knew music properly, because watching your videos for the first time the last two weeks, you’ve analysed songs I really like but I have no way to express why it is. Which makes me feel like I have good tastes. I should have learnt music theory and played instruments so I can at least understand what I feel and know of music, how to explain why this sounds bad and that sounds good, etc. Then maybe I could create my own and create something of beauty and something I’d be proud of. I would love to hear from other people like me out there in the comments, I’m 28 years old, with no training at all, hear from people who learnt music and to play instruments and created their own music. I would love to do this but I worry that it’s really going to be a frustrating and unfulfilling process of many years into my late thirties, I’m not smart and a fairly slow learner. Iq of maybe 97. But whenever I analyse art, I appreciate it more and more. Music and film and literature and poetry or whatever. The deeper you go the better it gets.

@SebastianGuile 5 жыл бұрын

This channel needs more views. Excellent content!

@markvegas2271 6 жыл бұрын

almost 100k subscribers you really deserve it, you are a great teacher!

@JiggyWig 6 жыл бұрын

Wonderful, thanks for sharing your insights.

@zacharydesjardins3701 6 жыл бұрын

This channel is so interesting and innovative!

@estoy1001 6 жыл бұрын

I think a dissection of Black Sabbath's Iron Man might help people understand why the riff is so infectious, and realize the song is deceptively complicated.

@louotero 5 жыл бұрын

This song is a guilty pleasure of mine. I love it.

@caesarspeaks 2 жыл бұрын

Nothing to be guilty about mon frere

@Posiman 4 жыл бұрын

I was looking for a video like this since I just recently noticed how rich story the harmony of this song tells. The verse is like conversation with a depressed friend, the "turn around" vocal is trying to bring her up and she refuses, always bringing herself back down to wallow in self pity. In the D major "turn around" phrase is more urgent in its hope, she begins to feel it and therefore instead of just falling back down she starts negotiating, then the "turn around, bright eyes" comes and it's so powerful in its hopeful message that she finally starts to bring herself up, giving her the power to scream her heart out how she needs you now, tonight, how she needs you more than ever. This feels like the absolute climax of the song, but at this point she's so overwhelmed by her emotion that she pushes forward and up with the "together we can make it..." bridge finally resolving to "I really need you tonight!!" apex, which feels almost like a primal scream, a desperate urge, her passion being so strong that we really feel that forever really IS gonna start tonight. Then we get to the point where she finally accepts her pain, she understands it, resolves it. "Once upon a time there was light in my life, but now there's only love in the dark. There's nothing I can do, it's a total eclipse of the heart..."

@vampoftrance 2 жыл бұрын

That's a good understanding of the lyrics. And the music as an instrumental also says the same thing you just wrote. Major chords sad and minor chord progressions lifting. Try humming this tune and you will feel it, if you forget the words.

@Posiman 2 жыл бұрын

@@vampoftrance A good training is listening to "Totale finsternis" from the musical Dance of the vampires, it is that same song, but... First thing: It's in German. Second thing: the lyrics are completely different. Third thing: the context is totally different. But the melody and harmony still tell a similar story...

@chancereynolds9091 6 жыл бұрын

When you mention the ii-V with that B chord, I thought of that switch to the minor vi F# chord as switching to the relative minor, and adding in a major 6th scale degree in that relative minor, the D#. A minor i to IV is what my ears immediately heard, but then again, you’re the one with a KZfaq following haha

@AroundTheBlockAgain Жыл бұрын

Between the video's analysis of the chords and the comments mentioning the composer's connection to musical theatre, this definitely explains the huge dramatic shifts and big, belting climax. This song is such a fun time, haha

@TomiV. 6 жыл бұрын

Speaking of epic pop-songs...Wuthering Heights - Kate Bush (Pat Benatar's version will do, too)

@thegrouchedegrouchie5106 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, I've been watching you for quite a bit, and I've always wanted you to do a Steinman piece, without knowing you already have

@tracyzimmerman7912 4 жыл бұрын

I love love love Jim Steinman and this song!

@zool84 6 жыл бұрын

Would be interesting to see you take on Wuthering Heights. Amazing and charming channel. Cheers!

@fonzimendoza1979 6 жыл бұрын

Total eclipse of my appreciation for this song.

@vanhalenmaster1 6 жыл бұрын

Paranoid Android for a future installment maybe?

@martinkrauser4029 6 жыл бұрын

They have a huge backlog of tune requests, so they are prioritizing Patreon donor requests. That's the way the cookie crumbles. You could sub and ask there, but knowing the internet, it's probably already been requested. :)

@johnr3552 6 жыл бұрын

The metronome in the intro to these videos always reminds me of that song.

@Smurfman256 6 жыл бұрын

I've got a challenge for you; anything by Meshuggah. Preferably "Rational Gaze", "Demiurge", "Dancers to a Discordant System", or "Bleed."

@baylinkdashyt 3 жыл бұрын

Jim Steinman can do amazing things with anything - I think it would be well worth your time to look into some of his other compositions, which were written for a whole lot more artists than you might think. I really want to see somebody do a compilation album just all the songs he wrote for everyone else.

@drawntothefire 6 жыл бұрын

I love the subtle harmonic complexity in some older pop songs. Whatever happened to interesting composition in popular music!

@Spudcore 6 жыл бұрын

Technology and drugs happened. Electronic instruments opened up the potential sound palette available to producers and the focus shifted away from melody and harmony and onto timbre. Along with Ecstasy and rave culture, this brought a new form of musical composition with a focus on intense, repetitive buildups and big, heavy drops. Changed the musical landscape forever! I must say, I too love the complex arrangements of pre-90s pop songs. They can really grab you right by the feelings. Not that songs are worse now exactly, but just in terms of technical mastery, the standard back then was really high and the top songwriters were absolutely crushing it.

@KayZee1957 4 жыл бұрын

It's hiding in a cave with singing grooving with a pict.

@marquisdelafayette1929 4 жыл бұрын

I like rap but now it all sounds the same . No difference from the bubblegum pop of the late 90s and early 2000s who then turned into “scandalous” and “sexy”. It’s all about what the industry wants for the moment.

@mohamads6426 6 жыл бұрын

I was surprised when I didn't find "We are the champions" video in your channel, but great work and great music, please do more of queen's 😉

@RyanManahanNews 6 жыл бұрын

You should check out Jim Steinman's Bad For Good. It's one of his bests.

@feliperojas-doomride 6 жыл бұрын

Jim Steinman is an awesome composer

@felipenocedal3948 6 жыл бұрын

Felipe Rojas o sí tocayo

@RonTheFlyingDutchman 6 жыл бұрын

Songs that sound like easy listening but are actually quite difficult: - Alice Cooper - How you gonna see me now - Starship - We built this city - Sergio Mendes - Never gonna let you go - Joe Cocker & Jennifer Warnes - Up where we belong

@marvelboy74 4 жыл бұрын

Steinman really brought a musical theatre sensibility to his pop music writing which I think helps explains his chords changes. But man, he wrote some chart topping ballads. His songs for the movie Streets of Fire helped make it a cult classic.

@Petch85 6 жыл бұрын

Great video... Grate song, and now I feel like at understand the song just at bit better, it has always sounded wired to me... But that must be the Pantera tuning. Thanks for it.

@XprPrentice 6 жыл бұрын

I'm a new devotee to your channel, and I had to pause and write this note when you mentioned through composition. I'm an instrumentalist who has transitioned a bit to composition, but I don't really have formal training from that angle. (And your videos are fantastic to help folks like me learn a bit of theory!) I've seen the term "through composed," usually for concert music rather than pop, but it stuck out that you used it here. Have you done a vid on this concept already that you could point me to? Or, perhaps, would you do one on this concept? Many thanks for your insights!

@saam6768 6 жыл бұрын

I AM SO FUCJING HAPPY YOU DID THIS SONG THANK YOUUUUUUUU!

@Zeupater 6 жыл бұрын

What’s wrong with longer videos? Some of us appreciate spending extra time on interesting material. I was surprised when I learned this song a few years ago. I get it. Could there possibly be a longer, alternate version? "The 12tone/12minute Deep/Dive"? You can call it that if you like. Y

@mullandglow 6 жыл бұрын

Any chance of explaining more dissonant chord progressions? Like older Architects, Underoath, Converge, or Dillenger Escape Plan?

@godnotavailable2094 6 жыл бұрын

Hey 12tone! I know you focus mostly on your Patreon requests but I'd love to see an analysis of any Stone Temple Pilots song! Though I'd personally like to see Dead & Bloated, it's the most musically intriguing to me.

@Sean-Ax 6 жыл бұрын

TIL that I've been using deceptive resolutions without knowing that that's what it was. lol I love the sound of vii° to vi; it's super melancholic, but still feels resolved.

@christianmopas4052 6 жыл бұрын

Jim Steinman, bros. Man's fucking insane.

@anthonyholroyd4338 6 жыл бұрын

I know! I clicked on this thinking, 'genuinely, how much can there be to talk about in total eclipse of the heart' - colour me impressed!

@andrijalazic3763 6 жыл бұрын

I would like to see you analyzing something from Morphine, i think that you would be surprised. And please keep going with your content creating. You are amazing!

@tbhv 2 жыл бұрын

honestly this has got to be one the most complex songs I have tried to understand so far and I cant help but feel all the fun drawings of elephants are belittling me haha. Although I will say I am glad I'm not the only one who wrote explanation points down white trying to work it out haha awesome vid! Also just out of curiosity at the beginning you refer to the A as the flattened vii chord but Im not sure how this is because surely in the key of Bm A is just the VII? In my mind I viewed A as the I because of when we saw functional harmony later in verse so in the chorus I referred to it as a ii I progressions. Any thoughts?

@scoutskills 6 жыл бұрын

I agree it's quite a brilliant piece of music with a relatively simple sounding melody but deceptively complex.

@eriktempelman2097 6 жыл бұрын

Want to do a simple one next? Try "I bought a flat" by 10cc. And thanks btw, I am learning a lot from your vids.

@the_tonic_ Жыл бұрын

It might be worth pointing out that this whole analysis is a semitone sharp (key of A Major that Ab Major). Understandable perhaps as the master recording seems to sit somewhere slightly above Ab major (though not quite as far as a quarter tone up to A to my ear.) In terms of the record I'm not sure what happened there - maybe something to do with mastering from analogue tape? Her subsequent live performances seem to be in the key of Ab which assuming that they weren't lowered to accommodate a drop in vocal range would reinforce Ab as the original key.

@dwightschrute9693 6 жыл бұрын

Can you do Iris by the Goo Goo Dolls

@jazminrodriguezpaez1349 6 жыл бұрын

Blackbird-Alter Bridge? 🙏

@evileyeball 4 жыл бұрын

Another interesting thing about this song is Jim had initially written it for his friend Meatloaf but then they had a falling out so he gave this to Bonny Tyler and the other song he had for meat, Making Love (out of Nothing at All) to Air Supply.

@milesstrand7920 6 жыл бұрын

Okay, I read the disclaimer- originally I was going to shout A FLAT but I never noticed the Pantera-esque tuning of the song!

@ragnkja 6 жыл бұрын

Whatever they key, it's not tuned to A=440 Hz. If it's A and not A♭, the tuning is probably just under 430 Hz.

@nikoyochum6974 5 жыл бұрын

Steinman is a boss. If you haven't checked out the work he did with Meatloaf on the Bat Out of Hell albums, I highly recommend it

@FSquid 6 жыл бұрын

Here's a good one for you: Exit Music by Radiohead. It's a very interesting piece in terms of how it builds.

@franciscodeassis1996 Жыл бұрын

Have you guys heard something like a second (or ninth) minor interval in 4:36 (official video)? Sounds like an Eb7(9b), in the key of Ab, but I'm not sure. What do you think?

@jazminrodriguezpaez1349 6 жыл бұрын

good job btw

@charllandsberg 6 жыл бұрын

If you ever get the chance, please review the frankly weird and awesome song Once in a Lifetime by the Talking Heads. I think it's a simple song, but the layering of the various elements gives it this weird feel that I'd love to hear you talk about.

@waltero.8957 6 жыл бұрын

Sorry for the dumb question, I'm new to music theory, but why is the C# at 6:52 (breakdown section) major and not minor? shouldn't it be a minor chord if we're in the key of A major? Or is this because of the Lydian mode you explained before? Also, please do Paranoid Android (or any other Radiohead song you want).

@srincrivel1 6 жыл бұрын

From what he said afterwards I get that the full explanation for this is way too complicated, so he resumes with the secondary dominant thing. Dominant chords are a semitone away from the chord they want to resolve in, so in the A key, E is a dominant chord because it contains G# (the 3rd from the E), which ends up setting things up to go to A. Same thing here, C# has F, so it wants to go to F#. If any of this sounds weird just think about a diminished chord trying to come back to the tonic, a dominant one has the same effect, but less dissonant

@waltero.8957 6 жыл бұрын

Oh ok, I see. I was watching the video he made for In Bloom and something similar was going on there. Thanks for the explaination.

@srincrivel1 6 жыл бұрын

You're right, I've been a guitar player all my life, and most of this stuff doesn't matter there, I just recently got into piano and am trying to cover up these kinds of hiccups

@harrisonhutton 6 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video on The Stage by Avenged Sevenfold? Theres tons of key changes and awkward notes where they dont belong

@kokomumu7420 6 жыл бұрын

Aqualung by Jethro Tull please?

@kokomumu7420 6 жыл бұрын

Andres Valle I never knew that!

@julicoole 5 жыл бұрын

He did it :)

@radishmonster419 4 жыл бұрын

Ok I love all your videos, and I really do enjoy how you explain things and all of the above, but like...the first two chords are b flat minor and a flat Major....I’m very confused. Did you do this for a specific reason? Because I checked on my piano and the piano on my phone and the first two chords are definitely a b flat minor/ ab major arpeggio...

@composerdave68 6 жыл бұрын

I call Jim Steinman the “mag genius”. His influences are clearly 50/60s rock and roll and Phil Spector, musical theater, opera and a sense of the gothic. His compositions are far more involved than most pop music. There is a grandness and often a tongue in cheek pretentiousness. Check out all the classic Meatloaf songs. Some amazing work.

@loveloss8590 6 жыл бұрын

Hey - have a question about major 7th chords that I think you could explain to me: I’m the songwriter for my band and I came up with a chord progression in D Dorian where I move a D minor chord to what I thought was an F major 7 (piano voicing low to high: “F, C, E, A”)... but it actually sounds more minor to me... as if I’m playing an A minor with an F in the bass... which is it and why does what I thought to be a major 7th chord sound minor to me in the context of the progression? Thanks! Blake

@jbrandao7675 6 жыл бұрын

Your videos are really cool, but why do you write from the right to the left?

@adamiotime 6 жыл бұрын

JBrandão cos he's left handed and would be blocking the view of what he just wrote.

@AlexKnauth 6 жыл бұрын

Bass reharmonization!

@Brendolicous 6 жыл бұрын

Hi 12tone! At 6.53 you said that the C# major was a 2nd dominant of the F# before. However, my suggestion is that it makes more sense to look at it as a borrowed chord from the harmonic minor scale.

@12tone 6 жыл бұрын

Hi! Interesting... How would that work, though? We're in the key of A, so harmonic minor would have C augmented, not C# major. It could be borrowed from harmonic major, if you view the E# as an F, but what would it be doing there?

@Brendolicous 6 жыл бұрын

12tone Hey, I realised i should have been more specific in my first comment. But anyways, would it be wrong to see the C# as a borrowed chord from F# harmonic minor?

@bryede 6 жыл бұрын

I've watched a few of these, and finally figured out the duck-rabbit.

@bean4423 6 жыл бұрын

it would be rlly dope if u did a video on a stevie wonder song or d'angelo's one mo' gin

@kunzangrangdrol 5 жыл бұрын

I have a request, but I cannot find anywhere to place it. So, I'll drop it here, hoping you might see it... Can you please do an analysis of David Bowie's Blackstar?

@quietone610 5 жыл бұрын

The song "Animal" by R.E.M. uses an eclipse in the music video. It's obscure.

@MarcoChurchH 6 жыл бұрын

Piano and drums are played by Roy Bittan and Max Weinberg, who are famous form Bruce Springsteen's E-street Band, why don't you cover Backstreets from Born to Run?

@elliegentry8196 6 жыл бұрын

Is a II-V a secondary dominant?

@12tone 6 жыл бұрын

It often contains one, yes! The V in a II-V is often a secondary dominant, while the II is a secondary subdominant chord.

@paldenno1 6 жыл бұрын

Hope someone here can answer this: If you borrow a chord from another scale, you can use that parrent scale while that chord is being played. But sometimes that chord can be found in another scale as well. How do you know which one to use? (I thought you could use either, but sometimes that just doesent seem work. F.ex in a (the key of B): Bmaj7 - fm (borrowed) - E, progression. The fm can for instance be from both dorian and mixolydian. But only mixolydian seem to work. Or maybe Im just confused by the melody in my head?

@12tone 6 жыл бұрын

It depends on context, but generally the safest approach is to take the scale you're starting in (B major in your example) and modify only the notes that you have to in order to include the chord. So you need to change the A# to an A natural (I'm assuming you meant F#mi, not Fmi) but you don't have to change the D# so you probably shouldn't. Thus, B mixolydian works better than B dorian, because it maintains as much of the base scale as possible while accommodating the borrowed chord.

@paldenno1 6 жыл бұрын

(Yes, I meant f#m). I see! That makes a lot of sense! You just helped me alot. Thanks!

@VanessaDMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Have you noticed this song is recorded slightly sharp??? It’s in around 450hz compared to 440hz

@VanessaDMusic 2 жыл бұрын

I tried making an arrangement and it didn’t match up with the original recording until I retuned my program to 451 hz

@bonecanoe86 6 жыл бұрын

W A G N E R I A N P O P

@OlorinDNarya 6 жыл бұрын

waitig part 2?

@Ringohulk777 3 жыл бұрын

VAMPIRE LOVE SONG!!!!!! LET'S GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

@fionnmurphybass7664 5 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't it be simpler to explain the B major chord as a V/V from A major??

@andyschweig621 4 жыл бұрын

These videos are interesting, but why did you change the key of the song? The original is in A flat major (as opposed to A).

@225haloman 2 жыл бұрын

I have one that I would love to see an analysis of: How to disappear completely by Radiohead

@bwebb90 6 жыл бұрын

Happiness is a warm gun?

@lengmoua6861 6 жыл бұрын

Understanding “abba”?

@nahuelma97 5 жыл бұрын

This and It's All Coming Back to Me Now, by Celine Dion, both written by Steinman, have such weird chords.

@Le_Tchouck 6 жыл бұрын

Nice, I love this song! My suggestions if anyone see this are: The One, Elton John. I don't really listen to "pop music" but the harmony in this is cheesy and yet beautiful. Or maybe something like After the Love is Gone, Earth Wind & Fire, because I the tone change feels brutal and smooth at the same time and I did not take the time to try and understand why.

@GlaceonStudios 6 жыл бұрын

Try The Chain by Fleetwood Mac! Or Landslide.

@215dagby 5 жыл бұрын

I fuckin’ need you now tonight!

@lumen-saxty-sax 5 жыл бұрын

Why is everything a quarter tone flat?

@12tone 5 жыл бұрын

To match the recording.

@ThePi314Man 6 жыл бұрын

okay, when i play this song, it sounds more accurate down a half step.

@12tone 6 жыл бұрын

The version I was working from is actually tuned a quarter-step down, but the video was getting long already so I just rounded to the nearest normal note names.

@Mattteus 6 жыл бұрын

I feel like there was a lot of this in the 70s and early 80s

@Carewolf 5 жыл бұрын

Mentions the piono and bass, but no analysis of how the vocal tone plays in?

@mattdoesstuff8987 6 жыл бұрын

White pearl black oceans by Sonata Arctica would be awesome!

@marquisdelafayette1929 4 жыл бұрын

Every time I hear this I think of Will Farrell singing this drunkenly in Old School.

@GraemeMarkNI 6 жыл бұрын

Could you analyze the video clip so easily though...

@slitbodmod5555 2 жыл бұрын

Ok am I am going mental or am I hearing this song a half step out of what 12 tone is notating, like I swear to I've played the song and this video a bunch and ever time it sounds like A#m - G# but it's written as B-A???

@Burns1993Joe 2 жыл бұрын

You’ve got the key of the song a semitone high! Your videos are also very fast and hard to keep up with. Rick Beato is far more methodical and easy to understand.

@tyler_dold 6 жыл бұрын

Anyone else notice that all the chords sounded a half step down? Or is it just me

@Annihilated481 4 жыл бұрын

That bothered me too. He's notating the chords in the key of Bminor but playing them in the song's original key of Bbminor. It's really annoying. Make up your mind!