The absolute best part is that if you go through with the entire game without killing anyone per his request but then at the very end decide to kill ASGORE, he gets genuinely caught off guard and demands to know if you were trolling him in this exasperated, clearly pissed off rant. It's _amazing._

Asgore: “you have the same feeling of hope in your eyes” Frisk: -_-

Honestly this represents so well how hopeless Asgore is when you meet him, even when you manage to finally spare him and give him a slither of hope, he’s so broken inside to the point where it leads him to refusing your mercy Also the “your choices were an illusion” is a nice mirror to Deltarune

here i was thinking i knew everything about undertale. then asgore killed himself.

"Nothing you do really matters" And here we have our forshadowing for Deltarune

Basically Flowey has to spoonfeed you how to get the true pacifist ending

You never fight Omega Flowey in the 'same' playthrough more than once, no matter what, though. Honestly, that's a relief to me.

The amount of detail that Undertale has is really impressive!

Asgore can’t live with himself after killing 6 humans realizing that they can be good, so he commits suicide anyways.

"Maybe you should go back and *'hang'* with them" Omori fans: That's the funniest joke I've ever heard

It is interesting to see that Flowey really finished his promise. Even as a literal souless flower that constantly tries to mess stuff up he still has SOME degree of morality to keep his word, specially after knowing that you are actually capable of killing him even with the souls (Which kinda confirms that he truly has DETERMINATION enough to see through timelines like a player, which makes sense as he is an Amalgama of Asriel's dust and a Golden Flower, and it's not just a power that was granted to him by the souls (He saves and messes up stuff outside of the game during OMEGA))

Toby trying to guide you to the happy ending through flowey haha

I just realized something, I barely see people say asgores name like "Asgore" ive only seen it like "ASGORE"

“Nothing you do really matters!” Flowey would be a amazing in deltarune

Oh no I'm slipping back to my Undertale phase

Flowey has always been a sight to behold. Despite the overwhelming despair he must have felt after everything he experienced, at the very end, after witnessing Frisk's determination, whatever remained of Asriel's soul wanted to help. Flowey, despite supposedly being devoid of a proper soul, proves that even the most decrepit of people are capable of kindness. It's only a matter of choice.

Flowey is an extremely interesting villain. Only you can understand him, and he is the only one that can understand you. His motivations seem clear, bored of peace, he seems to have lost all sense of humanity after all of his resets. Then you come along. And then his motivations aren't so clear... the moment he lets you get away, tells you how to get a pacifist ending... and speaks with you in every ending. He's the most compelling villain I have ever seen in a videogame. And nothing could have been more fitting for undertale.

I tell you what. Suicide Asgore shouldn't have been a secret detail in the game, IF AND ONLY IF you play this game SUPER BLIND and free of spoilers. The real gameplay should have been: Blind Neutral (some killing. Toriel should have been your soft roadblock here in the REAL BLIND playthrough and had forced you into killing her, since she is intentional to be hard and the repeating spare mechanic to be not obvious until the next reset, in which, an extra dialogue is added.), Learned Neutral (no killing, and witness Asgore's Suicide), Pacifist (you start befriending.), blind genocide (you didn't grind, since that one is also a hidden mechanic, so you just killed everyone that crossed your path. sans will say you could do better, so you did) and finally Genocide (The start of discovering the grind mechanic). But you see, in the old times, the community demanded the youtube streamers to avoid killing in-the-get-go (which means spoiling them about the mechanics) to "make things convenient for them and avoid the full reset grind". In the Undertale fandom, they thought they are just helping, but outside the Fandom, the fandom is viewed as toxic to the streamers. Best example? The curious Markiplier. it should have been a real BLIND playthrough if the community allowed him to be curious, since he's the BEST at it. But no, they "helped" him, which obviously turned out bad. Thanks to this, the majority only knew 3 categories: Neutral, Pacifist, and Genocide ending, since they thought everything else are just "variants". But little did only realize, that "Variants" is also a category of it's own. It's the blind playthrough's learning phase. But alas, it's already too late. Now that the hype has died down, the only real blind playthrough that I know of today is one from Alan Becker, creator of Animator vs Animation series, on his second channel. Sure, he didn't get the suicide Asgore phase, but he still did the full reset (not to be confused with the real/true reset) that most of the streamers avoided of during the hype times. Lesson to learn here? Let your favorite streamers play. More content would have gone more public if people avoided from "helping" them. Spoilers are called spoilers for a reason you know.

Yeah, Flowey promised not to kill Asgore, but never destroy his soul.

I got this ending. I was completely blind, came ultra late to the fandom and literally knew nothing. So this is what happened for me. I’m surprised to hear other people don’t know this ending or consider it rare since it was my first ending.

Your choices don't matter? Jeez. If Toby himself didn't confirm Undertale wasn't related to Deltarune, I'd be all over this lol

"But your freedom... ...is what my son... ...what ASRIEL would have wanted" and then Flowey destroys his soul.

What if Flowey was right? I mean, Undertale choices being a mere illusion? There were no choice at all? When you just natually finish the game, Flowey gives you idea of the Pacifist. After Pacifist he "warns" you about not ruining this ending. This leads to Genocide. And Genocide leads to giving your SOUL away to Chara. It always was only the one ending, don'tcha? Ending is, when there is no point of return. Genocide is only one way to get this effect. Because even if you come back to Pacifist after that, Chara will take control after your "sweet ending".

When this happened, I was freaking out. I've played the game like 10 times and hadn't found this until my most recent playthrough.

This is fascinating, this is exactly why I got into undertale, because this game actually does has freaking consequences.

The universe really doesn't want Asgore to live aside from True Pacifist, huh?

I'm surprised Flowey didn't say anything like "did you really expect ME of all people to keep THAT promise?!"

I’m still on the part where you have to kill flowery and he is really strong

It might be a Mandela effect thingy but I could’ve sworn when I did this Asgore had an animation ripping his soul out THEN the white screen happens.

“Nothing you do really matters!” WELL WHOEVER’S FAULT IS THAT HUH

Even after all these years there is still things that people don't know about this game! Foby Tox is fucking genius!

This is exactly what I got when I played the game for the first time in 2015, I didn't know anything about it, a friend just said "Hey, download this game, it's cool" and so I did. I killed a few monsters in the begining, before I realized what the game was all about, and got Flowey telling me to not do that. And so I didn't do that, but also didn't know how to befriend Alphys, and so got the ending where Flowey told me to go back and befriend everyone. I reloaded a save, and figured stuff out and was able to get the pacifist ending. Of course after that, I did a genocide one, Sans took me a good week to beat, nowadays tho I can do it first try, I know the fight like the back of my hand at this point.

When I first heard Flowey say: “Don’t kill anyone, and I won’t kill the kind” I thought he was tricking me but did it anyway. It was interesting that Asgore got more dialogue. This dialogue from Flowey happened after I got the annoying dog ending.

I got this ending before, all you have to do is play twice around, one time being the nuetral route and then do pacifist and it will still work

If Toby never got that extra Kickstarter money I don't think Undertale would feel as alive and as real as it does. This little puzzle box of a game just keeps on giving

I think this is a clever way to bring the player to experiment the true pacifist route. Remember that we all got in the true pacifist route, because we read it somewhere else, or got tell by a friend about it. Think of a new player that knows absolutely nothing about Undertale. Think of their surprise when they find out there is EVEN MORE in the game than flower behaving differently in this scene, but a totally different ending!!!

Iv never delved too deep into the endless variation toby bothered to create in the neutral varients. But to know its there, to know toby cared enough to make it is awesome. Also i like how flowey shows how he isnt pure evil, just bored, he remembers just like you and is happy to experiment with you, i like seeing the side of his character that just wants to talk.

That's cool that by following Flowey's instructions, he essentially tells you how to get the Pacifist ending

how have i never heard of this.

I never seen this before

So Flowey tells you that your choices don't matter, huh? Reminds me of DELTARUNE...

so he doesnt kill asgore , but he does destroy his soul when he oofs himself

I remember getting this ending on accident because I wanted to fight omega flowey again and I reloaded the file

Wow it's amazing how I still see new things about Undertale to this day😃 Thanks for making this video😁

I remember getting this in my third playthrough after doing a True Pacifist and Hard Mode! My third playthrough was a neutral and I spared Flowey, so in the next playthrough (In which I done another Ture Pacifist, to see Sans' room) Flowey appeared at the start and instead of attacking just said "Remember, don't kill anyone!"

Wait, so why can't you do the True Lab or get the True Pacifist ending if you do all that this time?

Asgore dying is frisks canon event

As a completionist, it gives me so much anxiety knowing I'll never know EVERYTHING about Undertale

This happened to me too. It was my first time playing, so I didn't even know whaf was going on. I didn't know that I had to trigger it.

I spared asgore twice because I forgot I beat him the first time and then flowey tried pressuring me to do the genocide route. He was genuinely caught off guard that I went back to talk to him again.

I remember this happened to me before. Where flowey asked me not to kill anyone to prove myself. I ended up going through it all but at the very last moment I killed asgore. Flowey called me a psychopath 😀

I always had a faint memory of asgore killing himself i always thought it was just my imagination and I just made it up but now I know that I was correct this made me feel some nostalgia thank you for letting me finally put to rest this memory

*"Nothing you really do doesn't matter! No matter what, end will be same! This is why we call Neutral Ending!"*

I dont believe that flowey actually is meant to be a bad person (or should i better say flower XD) cos here, he tries you to make friends plus in genocide he tries to stop you from the run. Still tho he tries his best to be a bad character. Thats why i like flowey :)

See Chara wasn’t so bad if Asgore thinks Frisk resembling them is a good thing. It’s worth noting that Asgore doesn’t even recognise Frisk as being human in genocide

The fact that there is still some things like this in the game i dont know is shocking to say the least, and believe me when i say that i investet too much time and i mean TOO MUCH TIME of my life in this game and all its interesting bits and pieces.

but after flowey says that, if you realy go back and "hang" with your friends, you get a happy ending

Back when we thought there was only the neutral, genocide, and pacifist ending

“Maybe you should go back and… “hang..?” with them.” Papyrus: OH YES, *HANG*

Woah, even years after discovering this game, I'm still finding new stuff!

So, this is the origin of Your Choices Don't Matter.

i got to experience this first hand because i accidentally killed a whimsum in the ruins cus i thought they had more health, i also thought it only mattered if the main characters were alive for some reason to get the pacifist ending so that was great 😭

This is actually more painfully tragic than the normal pacifist Asgore defeat.

I am still learning new things about Undertale to this very day..

I didnt know the asgore suicide ending existed and I like how he mentioned Chara this feels like fan made content

“You have the same feeling of hope in your eyes” Frisk: *eyes are closed*

OK seriously how many fucking endings are in this damn game 2022 and I’m still discovering new ones

Oh YEAAHHH i remember this. It’s one of the more obscure endings. I exhausted everything in the game though. Every possible play through I went through so I’ve seen everything. It’s just been a while.

I love the replayability undertale has with all the alternate routes and secrets there

I'm confused as to why Flowey still breaks Asgore's soul and absorbs the human souls in this ending. The outcome will be the same except monsters will have lost the human souls. I'm guessing it's simply so that Toby isn't forced to write many more endings about what would happen if the humman souls didn't disappear, but in the story all Flowey is doing is getting rid of the souls for no reason. Why?

Dude when I heard the sound effect of the Trident being pulled out I was like :O

i got this ending in my first playthrough. for years i thought it was something my mind made up or smthn. but that small detail was able to keep me motivated to continue playing the game, and here i am, 9 years later seeing my memories prove right and being a fan to this day.

5:34 Jeez, man, no need to kill me after watching your video. If anything, you could’ve just slugged my shoulder.

I appreciate this game more and more. I don’t have the heart to restart my game though.

I honestly never knew that was a thing in the game. So Flowey DOES keep his word.

So in short this ending is Deltarune, In short, even if we try and have Determination, we are still nothing without the help of others, Look at Spamton, He had all the Determination, he became a demi-god just to lose to 3 kids, Even if we try with all our might, even if we have all the power and best intentions, we still cannot change the world without others, it sounds depressing at first glance, But it is not, it shows our human nature, as individuals capable of nothing, but together in unity, There is no force that can stop us, Even God, or Death itself, humanity laughs in the face while still digesting, Still existing, This is the message of Undertale and Deltarune

I knew that you could fight Asgore without fighting Photoshop Flowey afterwards, but until now, I did not know this was the resulting ending of that alternate scenario.

Plot twist: flowey kills asgore because he doesn’t want you to become part of his family

Asgore: You have the same feeling of hope in your eyes. Human: -_-

Just kill asgore again a few times, see what's flowey gonna say

Gotta love how even though he kept his promise not to kill the king, he still broke his soul just to make sure you don't leave.

4:53 flowey fr speaking facts

Underrated

New things being found to this day, damn Toby.

I remember getting this ending after like thousands of hours of gameplay for the first time and it completely blind sided me, i was like “WTF HUH WAIT WHAT HUHHHHH”

this is the ending i got on my first playthrough. i had to reach level 10 to beat asgore, but then i did what flowey asked me to and got true pacifist.

there's probably a WHOLE buncha other secrets that people dont know about. I didnt know typing ball on the undertale menu screen makes a noise. I didnt know about the wall you can noclip through in the hotel. I dont know alot of things

undertale is the most hopeful soul crushing game ever

Undertale has 93 total endings apparently

This is prob the way toby wanted people to know there are 2 different paths you could take. Just in case no one told you

I came across this ending by accident on one of my first play throughs (maybe even my first I can’t remember) because I did a nuetral play through but spared asgore and flowey and didn’t understand that this was not a rare ending lol. I guess I got more sympathetic as I learned the true story and learned what the acronyms were post sans judgment.

And toriel is still hating. Must be lonely being the only one in the club.

I love that flowey explains how to get true pacifist just in case you didn't actually know!

Asgore: you have the same look of *hope* in your eyes.. Literally frisk: *-_-*

I wish there were an ending where you can live with Asgore in new home.

I forgot to do some things on my first playthrough (like alphys's lab with the amalgamates) and flowey told me to do them to have a happy ending

never thought thered be more for me to learn about this game

I’ve played this game twice per year since 2016, and there are STILL some things I don’t know about it Absolute masterpiece

Huh, mercy really wasn't an option...

Man undertale really is a magical place