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In his first five seasons, Patrick Mahomes has already won a Super Bowl and league MVP. According to FOX Bet SportsBook, Mahomes is currently tied for the best odds to win MVP this season. In a recent article, the Kansas City Chiefs' QB was mentioned as the heir apparent to the GOAT throne currently held by Tom Brady. TB12 has won seven Super Bowls and won three MVPs. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe discuss whether Mahomes will be considered better than Brady or not.
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@UndisputedOnFS1
@UndisputedOnFS1 Жыл бұрын
Listen to Out of Character: sprtspod.fox/OOC
@HouseOfMoths
@HouseOfMoths Жыл бұрын
We still on this Did you not see LV Josh Allen is a better qb and if not will be
@paulamadden1766
@paulamadden1766 Жыл бұрын
Shannon wasn't any football player and I think he knows what he's talking about Patrick mahomes is not called showtime for no reason. He's never had a bad game ever. If hes just a little bit under stellar they say he's had a bad day. Patrick mahomes is the most exciting the most versatile the best quarterback the NFL has ever seen. And it takes an All-Pro like Shannon to know what he's talking about
@ikjotsingh4353
@ikjotsingh4353 Жыл бұрын
When skip start talking i gotta switch it to 1.25x
@andremcclendon1220
@andremcclendon1220 Жыл бұрын
@@paulamadden1766 he is great but he has an amazing offensive Coach and he has had great weapons his whole career let’s see if he can carry an offense deep into the playoffs. That is true greatness and the fact that people just skip him past guys like Peyton Manning and Joe Montana is just pathetic And he definitely is not Tom Brady, Tom Brady literally went into Patrick Mahomes building and beat him with a much less talented team and out played him when it counted most. Patrick Mahomes poor play in the first half of that AFC championship game cost his team a chance to go to the Super Bowl in 2018. He is the most spectacular quarterback we have ever seen and that does not mean he is on Tom Brady‘s or Joe Montana’s level
@andremcclendon1220
@andremcclendon1220 Жыл бұрын
@@ikjotsingh4353 I agree that Skip is an idiot and he does Tom Brady and Michael Jordan a disservice when he argues in favor of them
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 Жыл бұрын
Skip: "I hear a lot of buzz" Shannon: "You left your door open it was a fly flying around"
@JayIs2Wavy
@JayIs2Wavy Жыл бұрын
lmfaoooo yo
@f.iyanda3838
@f.iyanda3838 Жыл бұрын
Lol... as soon as he said that, I went to check the comment section.
@bugaboy18
@bugaboy18 Жыл бұрын
Shannon quick on his feet 😂
@gutiadim8028
@gutiadim8028 Жыл бұрын
Unc is crazy
@davidkirba3191
@davidkirba3191 Жыл бұрын
These 2 are the best 👌. I really believe skip just says outlandish things that even he himself doesn't believe for the show. He knows it would make great back and forth with Shannon.
@chiefhead7
@chiefhead7 Жыл бұрын
wait so Skip has a problem with Mahomes being compared to Brady but has no issue with Burrow being called the next Brady even though he's not as accomplished as Mahomes?
@andrewhansen1126
@andrewhansen1126 Жыл бұрын
Different play styles
@TheMissiIe
@TheMissiIe Жыл бұрын
Skip only compares Burrow's play style and composure to Brady.. he's never said Burrow is closer to Brady than Mahomes in greatness
@user-ws7zv6sf2w
@user-ws7zv6sf2w Жыл бұрын
NFL is 100% RIGGED!! How else do you have non athletic Brady win 8 SB's after this year's UNDEFEATED season going 20-0.
@sgthomas1266
@sgthomas1266 Жыл бұрын
@@user-ws7zv6sf2w is his arm talent at age 45 also rigged ?
@israelp348
@israelp348 Жыл бұрын
@@user-ws7zv6sf2w Then I guess every sport winner and championship is rigged right? 🙄😑
@CMW345
@CMW345 Жыл бұрын
“I hear a lot of Joe Burrow buzz.. “- skip “NO THATS YOU” - Shannon 🤣🤣🤣
@captaincoffeecake3595
@captaincoffeecake3595 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes is a incredible talent , BUT keep it up over 20 years … that’s the real challenge.
@soggythestinkydungsniffing962
@soggythestinkydungsniffing962 Жыл бұрын
*PATRICK TOILETSNIFFERHOMES IS THE WORST QB IN THE ENTIRE NFL AND SHOULD BE 0-1 RIGHT NOW AND WILL LOSE TO THE CHARGERS AND FINISH 1-16 THIS YEAR. ALSO HE LOST THE SUPER BOWL 31-9 TO TOM BRADY*
@mgardner70
@mgardner70 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Absolute truth.
@mgardner70
@mgardner70 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Absolute truth.
@vincente4570
@vincente4570 Жыл бұрын
Ditto 😎
@Quvan
@Quvan Жыл бұрын
Those years were spent running from his wife. The cat finally came out of the bag this off season 😆
@tigerscott5929
@tigerscott5929 Жыл бұрын
Here’s a bright idea. Why don’t we just let Patrick Mahomes be Patrick Mahomes? He’s that good that he doesn’t have to be the next anybody
@brienmiller5129
@brienmiller5129 Жыл бұрын
Point well taken and well received.
@SoulKingKurosaki
@SoulKingKurosaki Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Took the words right out of my mouth
@ballsballsballs3617
@ballsballsballs3617 Жыл бұрын
Well to be fair his play style is identical to a young Aaron Rodgers, people just like to forget that every single throw u see mahomes make, rodgers made it first
@yaboisoe178
@yaboisoe178 Жыл бұрын
@@ballsballsballs3617 and pat mahomes already got the same amount of superbowls
@bigfellamike1913
@bigfellamike1913 Жыл бұрын
everyone should want to be the goat
@obnoxious3388
@obnoxious3388 Жыл бұрын
Brady played in 3 different eras He’s also played in 3 different resolutions (480, 1080 and 4K)
@Mj-uz1ng
@Mj-uz1ng Жыл бұрын
😂
@barringtonmorris90
@barringtonmorris90 Жыл бұрын
You got a point there. 😆
@musicindustrydrama838
@musicindustrydrama838 Жыл бұрын
💀💀
@tristans_
@tristans_ Жыл бұрын
Bro just skipped 720
@theglassesriley8229
@theglassesriley8229 Жыл бұрын
Brady is that old guy in the gym waiting on the sidelines but can ball anyway just waiting for a sucker.
@0168196250
@0168196250 Жыл бұрын
“That buzz is the fly buzzing around” I am dead. 😂🤣
@grant21999
@grant21999 Жыл бұрын
The Chiefs hadn't won a SB in 50 years before Mahomes was drafted. Honestly, he's already done a lot for the game of football.
@datsapaddlin
@datsapaddlin Жыл бұрын
The Patriots had never won one ever until Brady and he got 6 and another on another team. Pat is an all time talent but I don’t think he should be compared to Brady until he wins more. Brady just had a better season than him last year and won a super bowl more recently on top of that against the Chiefs.
@grant21999
@grant21999 Жыл бұрын
@Peter Angles I would disagree no one cares or none of us would be here
@grant21999
@grant21999 Жыл бұрын
@@datsapaddlin true but with those o line injuries, the chiefs had no chance in that SB. I don't think KC gets to another SB this year. I think Mahomes will have a great season regardless
@datsapaddlin
@datsapaddlin Жыл бұрын
@@grant21999 He got him in the playoffs with the Patriots as well. Injures are just apart of the game but he got a long way to go to accomplish what Brady did. It’s way to early to compare when he only has 1 ring and less accolades.
@mikejoneswho3758
@mikejoneswho3758 Жыл бұрын
I’ve played football and been watching for 25 years. Mahomes is the greatest pure qb talent I’ve ever seen. The pocket awareness, arm strength, arm slots, progressions I’ve never seen at such a high level at once. I don’t really care if he ever catches Brady in SBs because that’s just an argument made for TV and to keep us talking. He’s gonna get at least a couple more as long as the chiefs build a good roster
@johnnyringo2690
@johnnyringo2690 Жыл бұрын
Brady also played in several different eras when it wasn’t pass heavy and changed rules like it is today. This conversation will never age.
@robb1155
@robb1155 Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised either or haven’t mentioned that yet . Unc quick to bring up Brady plays in a softer era but fails to mention throwing the ball 30-40 times a game was not a thing when Brady first got in the league
@Kyle-fq4kq
@Kyle-fq4kq Жыл бұрын
Who cares about the rules? He’s not gonna abide by them anyway
@andremcclendon1220
@andremcclendon1220 Жыл бұрын
That type of nuance is really lacking with the so-called analysts nowadays. People literally just use basic stats to try and prove their point which just doesn’t work especially when you’re talking about football, you almost have to throw stats out of the window
@cornelius9466
@cornelius9466 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Brady's DEFENSE caused rule changes due to harassing colts players in the playoffs in '03 and '04, and he wasn't even that great until 2007.
@andremcclendon1220
@andremcclendon1220 Жыл бұрын
@@cornelius9466 Yeah they were great in the early 2000s but the narrative that they were great and the 2010s is just a media narrative. And he was great in 2001 and on he just wasn’t asked to fully carry the offense until the era changed and they gave him weapons. Greatness is not defined by stats… especially in football
@youthinkyouknowme5551
@youthinkyouknowme5551 Жыл бұрын
Brady has an incredible 18 post season games where he's thrown for +300 yards and has thrown for 4/5 of the top passing games in SB history including #1- 505 yards and #2- 466 yards.. My message to Mahomes on that GOOD LUCK 😂
@arsenioseslpodcast3143
@arsenioseslpodcast3143 Жыл бұрын
505 yards = loss
@youthinkyouknowme5551
@youthinkyouknowme5551 Жыл бұрын
@@arsenioseslpodcast3143 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 .> 5 SB MVP's , 13,000 yards passing in the playoffs / 2nd All Time Manning at 7000 Wanna Play with me Chump?
@JustinStrife
@JustinStrife Жыл бұрын
@@arsenioseslpodcast3143 He still broke his own record for passing yards in the superbowl and was carrying the team on his back that game. His defense was nowhere to be found. You haters are going to have to try harder to discredit him.
@SycoticForeverNeverAF
@SycoticForeverNeverAF Жыл бұрын
@@JustinStrife cry harder. Mahomes had that bottom 5 defense since being the starter and still carried the team to multiple sb’s.
@barryrammer7906
@barryrammer7906 Жыл бұрын
@@arsenioseslpodcast3143 lucky swip took that game. But your right a loss is a loss. He did get a gift from Seattle so it's even.
@nabeelsiddiqui5724
@nabeelsiddiqui5724 Жыл бұрын
Another non story.. Brady was pick .199 and wasn’t even suppose to sniff a start in the NFL let alone win 7 SBs and crush all the Qb records.
@musicindustrydrama838
@musicindustrydrama838 Жыл бұрын
He been in 10 superbowls
@mangualc
@mangualc Жыл бұрын
Not how you start. It's how you finish. Brady is GOAT. Mahomes has a shot
@The_Bigot
@The_Bigot Жыл бұрын
@@mangualc every young an in the league has a shot not just Mahommes
@bever4568
@bever4568 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Bigot if a qb started today. So for his next 13 seasons. He has to win every playoff game to catch up to Brady’s wins just in playoffs. Good luck with that 😂
@bever4568
@bever4568 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Bigot he has 35 playoff wins and second is joe Montana with 16. He doubled+ him. In football it’s so hard to win a playoff game. Brady’s stats and records are out of this world.
@mgardner70
@mgardner70 Жыл бұрын
Imagine a world where a Dallas Cowboys fan saying someone has an ego?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jwalters7460
@jwalters7460 Жыл бұрын
Does it make it a false statement?
@YEDxYED
@YEDxYED Жыл бұрын
Tom is still ballin at 45…how could Mahomes pass that
@GeEmTeVe
@GeEmTeVe Жыл бұрын
Mixed people don't age man he will be balling out bro trust me
@beastyboy101bo
@beastyboy101bo Жыл бұрын
@@GeEmTeVe no guarantee, winning one is tough now 7!!!!??? Nope, Brady made it look to easy for you young folks he cannot be compared
@azazelvalentine1762
@azazelvalentine1762 Жыл бұрын
@@beastyboy101bo Idk why no one realizes that no other qb playing rn has more than one ring except Brady. And everyone time a new qb wins one and tries to repeat Brady beats them and take the ring from them(Warner,Wilson,Mahomes)
@MattnCam0408
@MattnCam0408 Жыл бұрын
​@@beastyboy101bo yes he can hahaha brady is average
@droneviewphotodvp7614
@droneviewphotodvp7614 Жыл бұрын
Brady threw most touches and yards when he was 45. And to be the GOAT you gotta beat the GOAT and Mahomes is 0-2 against Brady in the playoffs
@jakobcorona2020
@jakobcorona2020 Жыл бұрын
Brady is still setting that bar so high TD passes Passing yards Reg/playoff wins The 10 Superbowls will never be touched
@TDR-0484
@TDR-0484 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes will crush him in every stat except super bowl wins as long as he stays healthy
@richardramos8218
@richardramos8218 Жыл бұрын
When Burrow accomplishes what Mahomes has (SB Ring, MVP) then he can be included in the conversation
@riskkktakeee
@riskkktakeee Жыл бұрын
Tb he not getting them no time soon buffalo bills here he not winning mvp
@johnnyringo2690
@johnnyringo2690 Жыл бұрын
And IF Mahomes accomplishes what Brady has then he can be included in the conversation.
@3nim3nimabl3
@3nim3nimabl3 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnyringo2690 😂 you can tell it emotionally bothers you
@b-2466
@b-2466 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnyringo2690 exactly. Tf dude talking about. Mahomes isn't even close to brady.
@mr.erikchun5863
@mr.erikchun5863 Жыл бұрын
Two broke MFs arguing about two men making millions playing a little kids game. Smh
@theredrooster7143
@theredrooster7143 Жыл бұрын
No matter what Tom does there will still be people saying things like, but he had this or that. They won’t say that about other qbs. It’s just the age we live in. All the guy wants to do is win. That’s all he’s ever cared about. He knows all it takes in a game is basically one or two great drives and he’s the best at that.
@jimmycharlotin7050
@jimmycharlotin7050 Жыл бұрын
He got haters for real you know what that means tom Brady is the greatest Living American no cap he's first athlete that all media outlets and even former nfl players pray on his downfall but he rise like yeast and shut all the haters up time and time again he's the greatest
@stopcampin4097
@stopcampin4097 Жыл бұрын
@@jimmycharlotin7050 off your knees bruh my goodness
@theredrooster7143
@theredrooster7143 Жыл бұрын
@@jimmycharlotin7050 he is just a dude.
@jimmycharlotin7050
@jimmycharlotin7050 Жыл бұрын
@@theredrooster7143 he's not just a dude he's greatest nfl player ever
@theredrooster7143
@theredrooster7143 Жыл бұрын
@@jimmycharlotin7050 everyone is just a dude. He’s just a dude that’s really really good at something. All respect.
@madnessontheisland
@madnessontheisland Жыл бұрын
Greatness is about playing big in big situations, not just about stats. Mahomes plays big when it matters. He doesn't always win, but he always plays big - and unlike the other young QBs mentioned he's actually won the big game. It's unfair to compare him to Brady right now. Compare the two when their careers are both finished.
@kenchan376
@kenchan376 Жыл бұрын
Agree. I think Mahomes has the best chance to surpass Brady out of the current crop of QBs, but the odds are still heavily stacked against him. Brady has done a great job taking care of his body, but he has also been lucky to last this long. This is the case with anyone who can play this long in their sport.
@lukaspanzer2120
@lukaspanzer2120 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes choked in the both Super Bowls he played. He actually is the worst performing Qb in the super bowl of all time that’s crazy. In his first super bowl he got carried by the refs. And the second was just embarrassing.
@normanphilp1760
@normanphilp1760 Жыл бұрын
@@lukaspanzer2120 lol how about the third one?
@coldbluewater9025
@coldbluewater9025 Жыл бұрын
Brady closed the door by his most assassin move ever in negotiating the Fox deal. Anyone who could catch him in one or two categories if they play another 10 years will take the broadcasting deal at age 35.
@MattnCam0408
@MattnCam0408 Жыл бұрын
u realize tons of qbs r better then brady? lol
@MrLarryLessor
@MrLarryLessor Жыл бұрын
OK ... this is an example of overthinking: A lotta people dont' care to be broadcasters - Did Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant or Brett Favre ever try to be on Fox or CBS or do an NBA or NFL Show? No. So to act like Brady is 'being an assassin" ... lol YOu're giving him credit for things he probably has not worried about. Not every one talks like Tom (Translation: White guy). not everyone is going to get a TV contract like Tom (Mahomes definitely does not talk like a white guy.... and the money isn't the same for people who don't talk like the "norm" or standard. That shows in the stats for salaries.
@coldbluewater9025
@coldbluewater9025 Жыл бұрын
@@MattnCam0408 Until someone else holds all the records. They just playing in his ever growing shadow.
@MattnCam0408
@MattnCam0408 Жыл бұрын
@@coldbluewater9025 hahaha u realize if not for being 45, he wouldn't be top 5 in stats haha
@bluerisk
@bluerisk Жыл бұрын
My god, one great game and they are back on this track.
@thegoldentroll
@thegoldentroll Жыл бұрын
Hank Aaron never had a 50 HR season. He did have eight 40 HR seasons though...
@aaronschutte7160
@aaronschutte7160 Жыл бұрын
I love Mahomes and I root for him but damn! It’s gonna be tough enough to pass Joe Montana. Let’s just enjoy this young man’s career for now, can we? And then do the comparisons later on. Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes. He doesn’t need to be anyone else.
@DemonProLLC
@DemonProLLC Жыл бұрын
FACTS!!!!
@andrewmensah1904
@andrewmensah1904 9 ай бұрын
Well said my brother!!!
@pablosanchez3305
@pablosanchez3305 Жыл бұрын
Skip: “I’ve been hearing a lot of joe burrow buzz” Shannon: “no no that’s You!”
@heathernks8
@heathernks8 Жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="180">3:00</a> I loved Unc's laugh, lol. Sometimes I just can't with Skip!🤦‍♀️😂
@CalobAdamsInfamous913
@CalobAdamsInfamous913 Жыл бұрын
Shout out to my fellow Kansan who also appreciates Unc👏🏽
@heathernks8
@heathernks8 Жыл бұрын
@@CalobAdamsInfamous913 Hey there fellow Jayhawk!
@Darkkent83
@Darkkent83 Жыл бұрын
"That's you, you left your door open" 🤣😂
@ceese_1302
@ceese_1302 Жыл бұрын
But yet Burrow had 4 turnovers last weekend but we don’t talk about that 😂
@jaquayvermillion4524
@jaquayvermillion4524 Жыл бұрын
He's a beast but he's overrated he's not as good as mahommes nor is burrow or Allen but the media forces them in the conversation with mahommes and it's disrespectful
@OC.TINYYY
@OC.TINYYY Жыл бұрын
What was Mahomes stat line against Brady in the Superbowl? Burrow is just an all around better QB than Mahomes. 15 years from now Burrow will still be playing the same, Mahomes athletic abilities will of been erased.
@nicyee3701
@nicyee3701 Жыл бұрын
@@OC.TINYYY He is not an all around better qb though. He doesn't have a better arm nor the athletic capability of mahomes. If you give Mahomes an O-line you see what he can do.
@nicyee3701
@nicyee3701 Жыл бұрын
@@OC.TINYYY Burrow has played perfect for about 2 months. Just calm down a bit in 5 years im willing to bet that 2021 playoff run was just a fluke.
@tristans_
@tristans_ Жыл бұрын
@@OC.TINYYY you mean mahomes stat line against the bucs defense with no oline and receivers dropping everything. You clearly didn’t watch the game lol
@johntate455
@johntate455 Жыл бұрын
How can any body forget about Terry Bradshaw who was the first Quarter back to win 4 super bowls and Joe Montana
@ralphkris6366
@ralphkris6366 Жыл бұрын
Respect to Terry
@abc_12333
@abc_12333 Жыл бұрын
Skip said that Montana was the GOAT until Brady won his 5th Superbowl. Back then, I still thought Montana was the GOAT.
@100spurs
@100spurs Жыл бұрын
Peyton outplayed Brady once in the 2013-14 AFC championship game. Brady player better in 03-04, 06-07 and 15-16 Conference Title games
@cornelius9466
@cornelius9466 Жыл бұрын
Pretty lackluster in half of those actually. Manning is 3-2 in the playoffs vs. Brady.
@The_Bigot
@The_Bigot Жыл бұрын
Colts had to switch divisions had to be put into the expansion division just to get to the playoffs. Don’t forget that. Peyton held the record for rookie Ints for a long time. Peyton sexually assaulted a girl in college. Nobody ever talks about any of that. He also sucked in both super bowl victories.
@The_Bigot
@The_Bigot Жыл бұрын
Oh and Peyton failed to win a playoff game with the same broncos team that was already a winning playoff team when lead by Tim Tebow only a season prior. Overrated and under scrutinized.
@cornelius9466
@cornelius9466 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Bigot Colts went 3-13 before manning, 13-3 in his second year, had a couple solid seasons, then went at least 12-4 seven straight seasons. He was in a terrible situation so of course he threw the most interceptions. If we're trying to cast doubt on character, Brady has played horribly in multiple super bowls, does business with a snake oil salesman who tried to disguise himself as a doctor so he could steal money from cancer patients. Brady is a proven cheater, took a $960K government loan to buy a yacht two years ago, likes to kiss children, has most likely paid the officials at least once, and does all sorts of shady business off the field! What a hero!
@cornelius9466
@cornelius9466 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Bigot A team that went 8-8. Had an MVP level season with a mediocre team and went 12-4 (yes, the receivers were good I know) but a team doesn't magically go from average to dominant without someone truly great at the helm. Also, RAHIM MOORE?!
@alexanderb4165
@alexanderb4165 Жыл бұрын
How has coach Belichick done since Tom has left?
@abc_12333
@abc_12333 Жыл бұрын
Belichick already has 8 rings. He doesn't need to do anything. Bill Walsh did NOTHING in the NFL without Montana. Pete Carroll did NOTHING without Russell Wilson. So why single out Belichick???
@alexanderb4165
@alexanderb4165 Жыл бұрын
@@abc_12333 Because it was his ego that let him go. Single worst move ever!
@abc_12333
@abc_12333 Жыл бұрын
@@alexanderb4165 The Pats got eliminated in the 1st round in Brady's final year on that team.
@alexanderb4165
@alexanderb4165 Жыл бұрын
@@abc_12333 o the team that was the 1 seed at 12-4 before the “greatest” coach could not make one defensive stop against Fitzpatrick 😂😂😂😂 Yup that same team🤫 Then again coach couldn’t make a single stop against Foles when Brady threw for a record 505 yards….. IN THE SUPER BOWL!!!! You trippin 🤡🤡🤡 Us real one’s know. It’sTommy forever ♾ 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
@abc_12333
@abc_12333 Жыл бұрын
@@alexanderb4165 The same defense that carried Brady in his first 3 Superbowl wins and the 1st Superbowl playoff run where Brady ONLY got 3 offensive TDs? That defense? Yeah that's Belichick's defense. It was Tannehill NOT Fitzpatrick. Brady threw at pick 6 at the end of that game 🙂
@drewbryan6739
@drewbryan6739 Жыл бұрын
How can you have a "successor" to the GOAT? It stands for Greatest of ALL TIME. You can't have a succession of GOATs. Can' they say something like "the dominant quarterback of his time"?
@The_Bigot
@The_Bigot Жыл бұрын
That doesn’t sound very good though DQOHT?
@cbsregg1620
@cbsregg1620 Жыл бұрын
This is a conversation we should have when and if he wins his 4th super bowl
@Asianmike8402
@Asianmike8402 Жыл бұрын
I always love how Skip goes Brady can easily be 9-1 in Super Bowls. That’s true but he can also easily be 1-9 in the big game. Would’ve, could’ve, should’ve. He’s 7-3 which is fantastic. Just stop it there.
@vincente4570
@vincente4570 Жыл бұрын
Your statement is nough said👏
@ballsballsballs3617
@ballsballsballs3617 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Brady is the goat no question about it, but at the same time he’s arguably one of the most overrated players in all of sports, skip also talking about mahomes saying he has the perfect situation like he gonna forget Brady had a top 5 defense every year he won a super bowl to go along with the tuck rule, 28-3, and goal line interception
@davidwight5544
@davidwight5544 Жыл бұрын
@@ballsballsballs3617 how can Brady be the GOAT but at the same time be overrated? That makes no sense.
@KH33ZY69
@KH33ZY69 Жыл бұрын
@@ballsballsballs3617 How can one be the GOAT and overrated at the same time? Top defense argument doesn’t work once you’ve realized a lot of the greats also had top defenses during their career…they just couldn’t capitalize it as often as Brady. Just look up when Montana, Manning, and Rodgers won, they all had top defense. I’m sure your football knowledge is far better then that of his peers who consistently vote him the best or near the top every year.
@TheRobertPorter
@TheRobertPorter Жыл бұрын
@@davidwight5544 because while it’s true that he’s undeniably great, he’s also had more team support and UNBELIEVABLE luck then any other big QB ever, and that’s an objective fact
@dimitrisgreen2883
@dimitrisgreen2883 Жыл бұрын
I swear Skip only talk about the other team when he don’t got shot too really say
@benp5103
@benp5103 Жыл бұрын
Brady is a legend walking among men.
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 Жыл бұрын
It's gotten to the point where I don't even root for any team or player, I just root against anything skip wants.
@tucker8071
@tucker8071 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you watch this show too much haha
@jmarie6128
@jmarie6128 Жыл бұрын
Shannon is too funny...Skip is a trip lol I just love these guys 😆😆
@kennyhiggins7806
@kennyhiggins7806 3 ай бұрын
I’ve NEVER seen Mahomes throw a pass behind his back, or between his legs as Skippy keeps saying!! Patrick does throw no-look passes, and left-handed passes. Nothing else out of the ordinary! And I’ve only seen 1 lefty pass. But Skippy is so much in ❤ with Tom Brady that he’ll NEVER give any other QB the Praise he saves for his ❤ LoverBoy Tom!!
@Channel-23s
@Channel-23s Жыл бұрын
To put it into perspective Tom had 3 Rings by the age of 28 Mahomes is what 27 rn so he’s not on track to catch him
@millenniummind1481
@millenniummind1481 Жыл бұрын
Amen
@dillanhawkins5430
@dillanhawkins5430 Жыл бұрын
How is he not on track to catch him? He wins his 2nd ring this year at 27. Then next year he wins his 3rd at 28. Easy.
@millenniummind1481
@millenniummind1481 Жыл бұрын
@@dillanhawkins5430 That would mean Mahomes would win 2 more Super Bowls. Mahomes ain't that guy. He needs help from the refs. He is not Tom Brady.
@dillanhawkins5430
@dillanhawkins5430 Жыл бұрын
@@millenniummind1481 Don’t be that way. He definitely has the potential to be that guy. He doesn’t need help from the referees. When has that ever been a thing? Now you’re just being silly. If anything Tom Brady has needed their help countless times. Lest we not forget Spy Gate and Deflate Gate…
@millenniummind1481
@millenniummind1481 Жыл бұрын
@@dillanhawkins5430 Those rumors are fake. He blew out the Colts after everyone said he deflated the football. Any other theories are conspiracies to why Tom Brady keeps winning.
@gbrow1604
@gbrow1604 Жыл бұрын
It sucks cause Mahomes could easily have 3 Super Bowls already. And two of them could have been against the Rams! Just like how Brady won his first against them. His defense really let him down in the 2018 loss but for this most recent loss he definitely deserves a lot of the blame.
@KrypticCmd
@KrypticCmd Жыл бұрын
The GOAT conversation I swear Tom Brady is the most Accomplished QB in history but no matter what he does he will always have an Interception and a loss in the Super Bowl when Joe Montana never threw a interception in a Super Bowl or lost in one.
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 Жыл бұрын
I love watching Burrow but skip gonna make me start to dislike him. He's great and what he did last year was amazing to watch but he ain't close to Brady or Mahomes yet.
@soggythestinkydungsniffing962
@soggythestinkydungsniffing962 Жыл бұрын
*PATRICK TOILETSNIFFERHOMES IS THE WORST QB IN THE ENTIRE NFL AND SHOULD BE 0-1 RIGHT NOW AND WILL LOSE TO THE CHARGERS AND FINISH 1-16 THIS YEAR. ALSO HE LOST THE SUPER BOWL 31-9 TO TOM BRADY*
@manuelshaul9244
@manuelshaul9244 Жыл бұрын
He is. And they including his perfect LSU season. Burrow ain't nothing nice. And he's better than mahommes.
@bradywalton1380
@bradywalton1380 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Pat has to deal with his wife and brother makes him the 🐐
@chrislikeswetpussy
@chrislikeswetpussy Жыл бұрын
No pat picked her and she is a loser
@mikekinsella2822
@mikekinsella2822 Жыл бұрын
he could dump them both
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 Жыл бұрын
Patrick: "Every time you try to forget who I am, I'll be right there to remind you again"
@tylerbrubaker_7
@tylerbrubaker_7 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes could potentially have the greatest #’s of all time but no one will care cos no one will catch Brady in rings
@English_MoFo
@English_MoFo Жыл бұрын
EVER.
@Morbian13
@Morbian13 Жыл бұрын
So 7 rings is unreachable?..........
@devus9793
@devus9793 Жыл бұрын
If you combine greatest numbers of all time with maybe 4-5 rings then Mahomes could could have a good argument. But even that’s extremely difficult
@English_MoFo
@English_MoFo Жыл бұрын
@@Morbian13 no. Mahomes getting 7 rings is unreachable. He's not a true pocket passer and he'll need that later, plus Herbert and Allen are coming on STRONG
@martinramirez3096
@martinramirez3096 Жыл бұрын
Brady is like bill russel… and Patrick will be like MJ when it’s all said and done
@fredygrillz
@fredygrillz Жыл бұрын
Bro yall never talk about the chargers even tho they play today smh.
@jucci178
@jucci178 Жыл бұрын
They did talk about them during the matchup for tonight. Other than that, nothing.
@PeanutButterAndJellyBros
@PeanutButterAndJellyBros Жыл бұрын
He won’t ever surpass Brady. Brady played for one of the most stubborn head coaches ever and had to make the ingredients around him better. Couldn’t throw the ball deep like Rodgers and Mahomes because he didn’t always have those deep threat weapons for most of his years in New England. Randy Moss for only two full seasons and Gronk who would usually miss games. Guarantee no other quarterbacks would win Super Bowls with guys like Edelman, amendola, and chris hogan on their offense because their playing style will never allow them to truly elevate these type of receivers on every game day. Rest my case. Mahomes might have a case for number 2 greatest of all time when his career is said and done.
@yusufbey1587
@yusufbey1587 Жыл бұрын
You give mahomes moss gronk edlemen amendola etc he’s winning multiple Super Bowls lol especially with those legendary bill bellicheck defenses mahomes took two sub par defenses to bowls and won one
@stopcampin4097
@stopcampin4097 Жыл бұрын
Bill is just as responsible as Tom is stop
@JustinStrife
@JustinStrife Жыл бұрын
@@yusufbey1587 Dude, just stop... You're embarrassing yourself.
@JustinStrife
@JustinStrife Жыл бұрын
@@stopcampin4097 Bill was 5-13 in New England before Brady took over. What's Bill's record without Brady during his entire coaching career?
@stopcampin4097
@stopcampin4097 Жыл бұрын
@@JustinStrife bill won 2 Super Bowls without brady how many did brady win?
@asiiiexperience3361
@asiiiexperience3361 Жыл бұрын
Why are they having this conversation when Mahomes has only played four years? Let him have his career and then we can discuss this or stop comparing players to each other
@poetgooner
@poetgooner Жыл бұрын
So we can't talk discuss our views on the ceilings of young talents? If a 19 year old wins a US Open, we can't discuss if he could be greater than Roger Federer? Was it so wrong to discuss Messi at 22 of possibly becoming greater than Pele? Why is discussing players potential so bad?
@asiiiexperience3361
@asiiiexperience3361 Жыл бұрын
@@poetgooner because your speaking on the unknown Instead let’s just enjoy their careers and once they have finished and retired then we can discuss a GOAT conversation not in four years because you don’t know what their careers will be
@poetgooner
@poetgooner Жыл бұрын
By that logic, you're destroying most of sports fandom. Talking about the unknown most of sports fandom. Should we not discuss who will win the NBA, the NFL, or the World Cup too? Just enjoy the tournaments! Who's going to win the MvP? Don't talk about it, just wait till someone win to talk. Talking about things that haven't happened is not just part of the fun, it's integral to sports fandom itself.
@asiiiexperience3361
@asiiiexperience3361 Жыл бұрын
@@poetgooner I’m saying speaking on what we know instead of assuming what a player will do when we have no idea makes for an enjoyable and more educated discussion about sports. Having what if conversations are pointless because you can’t prove anything with them. Talking about the results in a results based world is what I find much more enjoyable.
@exclipezyt8691
@exclipezyt8691 Жыл бұрын
Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, are all over Mahomes now. All they gotta do is win a Super Bowl and keep their key receivers.
@abc_12333
@abc_12333 Жыл бұрын
Why are you including Justin Herbert who has never made in the playoffs and NOT Lamar??? Gee I wonder......
@trovelemmanuel5627
@trovelemmanuel5627 Жыл бұрын
I just wanna see Mahomes, Herbert, Burrow, Allen play for the next 15 years.
@justenlilly9099
@justenlilly9099 Жыл бұрын
well they will. unless they get banged up.
@reneflores8732
@reneflores8732 Жыл бұрын
You forgot Lamar Jackson mate
@trovelemmanuel5627
@trovelemmanuel5627 Жыл бұрын
@@reneflores8732 you're 💯 % right bro. This league will be 🔥 for the next decade for sure
@Terror832
@Terror832 Жыл бұрын
And Deshaun Cosby. I know he’s got libido issues but talent wise he’s legit.
@jenniferaceste8823
@jenniferaceste8823 Жыл бұрын
@@Terror832 He was real legit in the playoffs against Mahomes when he was up 24-0, right?
@brightonanderson6622
@brightonanderson6622 Жыл бұрын
Injuries will be the obstacle. Brady may not have the iron man record but, outside of 2008, he's started and ended every game in his career. Mahomes is always hobbling at the end of every year. I think the only year he wasn't nursing an injury, he won his Super Bowl.
@DemonProLLC
@DemonProLLC Жыл бұрын
Excellent point.
@kaylalove2917
@kaylalove2917 Жыл бұрын
That's not true he actually had a knee injury the year he won the Super Bowl
@obp23
@obp23 Жыл бұрын
I thinks it's the Mahommes v Allen era, they're top of the game
@antoniobrown6210
@antoniobrown6210 Жыл бұрын
I'm just enjoying the show we are lucky to see this generation of quarterbacks
@Sandra-wj4on
@Sandra-wj4on Жыл бұрын
Even when Skip gives Mahomes a compliment, it still sounds like an insult.
@ne0n1nja247
@ne0n1nja247 Жыл бұрын
They actually gonna have to beat Elway Marino and Montanna before they worry about Passing Brady
@juultoo
@juultoo Жыл бұрын
Mahomes already passed Elway and Marino in terms of accolades. He has to pass Montana, Manning, Starr, Graham, and Staubach before he gets to be considered among Brady.
@alexfromproduce1521
@alexfromproduce1521 Жыл бұрын
Brady is the undefined goat believing that it is far fetched that pat won’t catch him (wich I don’t think he will) is insane
@wt606
@wt606 Жыл бұрын
Here we go again. 1st game of the season and Mahomes is back on the GOAT conversation. What a joke🙄 There is only one GOAT and it's Brady. Stop this.
@ellissmith2909
@ellissmith2909 Жыл бұрын
I don't hear anyone saying Pat is the GOAT but more can he beat Brady's records?
@TYreLL0416
@TYreLL0416 Жыл бұрын
@@ellissmith2909 He could. We will see
@sread833
@sread833 Жыл бұрын
When any QB gets 5 + SB and records then we can have a conversation. Until then, Brady is the GOAT. Brady has 3 HOF careers: first 7 years, second 7 years and third 7 years. Just no comparison.
@thomasdavis3998
@thomasdavis3998 Жыл бұрын
no body can ever or will ever beat brady’s greatness. there are more talented people sure. no one is a better leader and no one is a better winner and no one ever will be
@millennialfootball9499
@millennialfootball9499 Жыл бұрын
No, there is no "heir". Pat Mahomes in 2 Superbowls: 2 TDs 4 INTs.. He wont reach the same resume as brady but people will undoubtedly lower the bar for him
@Terror832
@Terror832 Жыл бұрын
If Mahomes can win - 6 more rings - 4 more SB MVPs - 2 more MVPs - 1 more OPOY - 2 more 1st Team AP - 2 more 2nd team AP - lead league in yards 4 more times - lead league in TDs 4 more times Then he has matched Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr. But no shame if you don’t match it.
@TheKing-im6uu
@TheKing-im6uu Жыл бұрын
He can only get 3 rings and he’ll be better
@israelp348
@israelp348 Жыл бұрын
@@TheKing-im6uu 🤣🤣🤣🤣 LOL he needs more than that buddy, and he WON'T get it. He'll be fortunate to get more than 2. You people think it's easy to go to 10 Super Bowls and win 7? Lol it simply isn't doable.
@baseupp12
@baseupp12 Жыл бұрын
@@israelp348 it isn't doable but it's been done before which means it can be done again
@TheKing-im6uu
@TheKing-im6uu Жыл бұрын
@@israelp348 Tom was absolute trash his first two Super Bowls and won two more because the defense and had to cheat in two more 😂
@christopherbarthelus4625
@christopherbarthelus4625 Жыл бұрын
@@TheKing-im6uu trash and he led game winning drives in the first 2 and also won MVP trash. Remember against the niners mahomes was garbage for 3 quarters but he was playing against jimmy G
@motownzfinezt
@motownzfinezt Жыл бұрын
They forgot Donovan McNabb but Patrick Mahomes is something special
@mr.erikchun5863
@mr.erikchun5863 Жыл бұрын
Mentioning McNabb doesn’t get anyone watching a show full of BS
@rustyshackleford7436
@rustyshackleford7436 Жыл бұрын
Athletically mahomes is eons ahead of Brady and is still a smart player. But he's just gotta do it over a 20 year career and get those Superbowls.
@tmot6714
@tmot6714 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes isn’t winning 6 or 7 Sb’s. Realistically I think he‘LL finish 3rd all time behind Brady and Montana.
@diamondback4522
@diamondback4522 Жыл бұрын
As a lifelong KC fan, If he gives us 3 super bowls I'll be content
@tmot6714
@tmot6714 Жыл бұрын
@@diamondback4522 That’s where I have him at. I think he’ll finish his career with 3 rings,4 Mvps.
@Griffinex
@Griffinex Жыл бұрын
Mahomes can never catch Brady mainly because Brady whopped him on 2 different teams in the playoffs and won 2 Superbowl on him as well
@royshadcurry5698
@royshadcurry5698 Жыл бұрын
Eli manning beat him twice IN the Super Bowl so what is your point ?lol
@millenniummind1481
@millenniummind1481 Жыл бұрын
@@royshadcurry5698 Mahomes overrated
@Griffinex
@Griffinex Жыл бұрын
@@royshadcurry5698 ok and your point Eli ended with 15 years in his back pocket which is good but got ran out of town. we are talking about 2 very different things and to just throw Eli out there like he was something special to compare to Brady and Mahomes is telling you don't know that much
@youthinkyouknowme5551
@youthinkyouknowme5551 Жыл бұрын
@@royshadcurry5698 I would comment but I can already you wouldn't get it
@arsenioseslpodcast3143
@arsenioseslpodcast3143 Жыл бұрын
So a QB best a QB? Didn’t know that.
@look3467
@look3467 Жыл бұрын
The goat doesnt necessarily need be superman because it takes a team to win. The leader of a winning team is where its at.
@k05odom32
@k05odom32 Жыл бұрын
Skipp has the dripps in the noise lol☔
@ghosti79
@ghosti79 Жыл бұрын
Tom can read defense before the play. He's been there for years and knows almost every trick. Mahomes is good but not that good. Tom is playing 5d chess while Mahomes is playing 3d chess.
@huffstudios4328
@huffstudios4328 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes won’t make it 16yrs, he’s a lot more physical when he plays then Brady ever was. Mahomes only shot at being a QB in history books is beating the records he can in the amount of time he has.
@narmabc
@narmabc Жыл бұрын
But he's smart and can throw from the pocket your delusional bro. With time he won't be as physical but his pocket presence will improve.
@d36b
@d36b Жыл бұрын
He will adjust with age ofc he’s not going to be 30+ years old doing what he does now
@huffstudios4328
@huffstudios4328 Жыл бұрын
@@narmabc its a different game when defenses know you cant run out the pocket for 50yds a game, or jump throw the ball 50yrds parallel to the ground. What makes him amazing is his ability to create pressure with his legs and his arm.
@narmabc
@narmabc Жыл бұрын
@@huffstudios4328 I just told you he pocket passer too not just a running qb! What are you talking about?
@huffstudios4328
@huffstudios4328 Жыл бұрын
@@narmabc its a combination that makes him good not just 1 thing.
@ethan2kays228
@ethan2kays228 Жыл бұрын
Why don’t we talk about the game mahomes is playing tonight rather than comparing him to tom brady for no reason at all
@PAuguste16
@PAuguste16 Жыл бұрын
i find it interesting how its always qb vs qb like they see each other on the field. the better evaluation should be how well did they play against the shared teams they played against
@tucker8071
@tucker8071 Жыл бұрын
Such a good point, but I’m sure they also are impacted by watching the other quarterback sharing the same field.
@PAuguste16
@PAuguste16 Жыл бұрын
@?? i dont recall even mentioning brady v specifically. i was talking a general case when people say two comparable qbs out played one another on the field which is not neccesarily the case. in basketball it is very cut and dry for the most part the two players are on the court simultaneously impacting the game. but lamar jackson isnt trying to sack joe burrow. obviously a qb could have a bad game where they are careless with the football and/or inaccurate. but its an offense vs defense game, a bad defense can make a mediocre qb look like hes the best in the league. hence i think although mahomes had a great game vs teh cardinals that was more arizona being inept, had he done that against the bills it would have been more impressive.
@PAuguste16
@PAuguste16 Жыл бұрын
@?? are we really talking overall numbers for a qb that has played 23 years, flip montana and brady in terms of era and he would most assuredly have comparable numbers. brady is easily the most accomplished qb now and probable in the future but numbers is not the metric that i would go by. originally i was making a qb v qb point but since we are talking about brady yes he has been great but similarly very lucky . yes lucky, he had the benefit of playing 18 years in the weakest division in football where the other 3 teams have had combined 20+ different starting qbs in his tenure at NE almost guranteeing him a bye. the years in which he did not have a bye i recall he only made it to the superbowl once. he then leaves not only a division that finally got a good if not great qb in josh allen (but also a conference that got stacked a qb) to go to a weaker conference and a division that ultimately lost drew brees and has two other teams in rebuild mode.
@perrygray61
@perrygray61 Жыл бұрын
Let’s be real, nobody and I mean nobody is not Surpassing Tom Brady in any universe
@abc_12333
@abc_12333 Жыл бұрын
Can you predict the future? Are you a seer?
@khalilconway6834
@khalilconway6834 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad Shannon sticks ups for Pat 💪🏽💯
@Rocker9861
@Rocker9861 Жыл бұрын
Skip is so bad at making points just nit picks instead of seeing the whole picture.
@fineline8348
@fineline8348 Жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="152">2:32</a> Hahaha he shut him right up, “na na thats you”
@tekanatoken
@tekanatoken Жыл бұрын
Win 7, then we'll talk.
@abc_12333
@abc_12333 Жыл бұрын
Bill Russell won 11. Is he the GOAT? M Richard won 11 Stanley Cups. Is he the GOAT?
@tekanatoken
@tekanatoken Жыл бұрын
@@abc_12333 Difference is Brady IS the GOAT. Bill played in an era where there were only 10 teams and Richard only won 8 cups and played in an era where there were only 6 teams. Your whole argument is flawed at best.
@abc_12333
@abc_12333 Жыл бұрын
@@tekanatoken Not really. I actually meant Henri Richard and he got 11 Stanley Cups. You are basing everything on rings. I'm telling you that that is not how it works. You have to factor in MANY other things. Otherwise Eli Manning is better than Dan Marino. Troy Aikman is better than Dan Marino according to your logic. So no. Mahomes does NOT have to get 7 rings to be in the GOAT conversation.
@tekanatoken
@tekanatoken Жыл бұрын
@@abc_12333 Mahomes is a generational talent, I'll give you that. He's a great QB with all the fundamentals, and he's fun to watch, but it's still way too early for the GOAT conversation.
@abc_12333
@abc_12333 Жыл бұрын
@@tekanatoken Agreed
@tjjones2907
@tjjones2907 Жыл бұрын
I have always scratched my head when the talking heads say "QBa out dueled QBb". The two QBs are ALWAYS facing two different defenses. Why Skip and others fail to grasp such a simple concept is beyond me. No one says "Trent Dilfer out dueled Kerry Collins in the 2000 SuperBowl." But if it's anything less than a LEGENDARY defense, (ie, the 2000 Ravens), the QBs get the credit or blame.
@abc_12333
@abc_12333 Жыл бұрын
FINALLY!!!! THIS
@n00utz81
@n00utz81 Жыл бұрын
Brady is in Jordans and Ali's class it's nice to have pie in the sky theories but these 3 are untouchable
@Firefoot03
@Firefoot03 Жыл бұрын
Shannon rattles off stuff not on paper in front of him and Skip can't answer without prepared info 🤣
@The_Bigot
@The_Bigot Жыл бұрын
Shannon has severe dislexia. Can barely understand him most of the time.
@sabintee9232
@sabintee9232 Жыл бұрын
Skip Is the definition of a hater. I’ve never seen a hater of this caliber
@chrispoulin6116
@chrispoulin6116 Жыл бұрын
Rob Parker is right there with that
@kenjie1646
@kenjie1646 Жыл бұрын
stop crying man
@alexanderb4165
@alexanderb4165 Жыл бұрын
Also Tommy have already beaten him in a conference championship game in KC and a Super Bowl. What’s that worth? 😳💯🤔
@cornelius9466
@cornelius9466 Жыл бұрын
2 interceptions and a 78.5 passer rating vs. Chiefs in 2018, an end zone interception and season-ending interception negated by Dee Ford. Completed 5 throws over 5 yards, had 2/3 yards come after the catch and defense held mahomes to 9 points in the super bowl. Brady was the least pressured quarterback in sb history that game, Mahomes was the most pressured.
@alexanderb4165
@alexanderb4165 Жыл бұрын
@@cornelius9466 😅😂🤣 WTF you talkin about!!!! Tell yourself whatever you need to. By the way didn’t Brady complete multiple fourth and longs in overtime to squash your boy at home in that conference game. Dude stop. If your boy has half the career Brady does it will be considered a great one no shame in that but please stop the silliness 😂😅🤣
@abc_12333
@abc_12333 Жыл бұрын
QBs don't go head-to-head. They literally don't face each other in football. They play DIFFERENT defenses. Brady and Rodgers said this themselves before a game.
@r.brown0294
@r.brown0294 Жыл бұрын
The road to the Superbowl in the AFC goes thru Mahomes.
@damontussing4333
@damontussing4333 Жыл бұрын
All I know is I'd take mahomes 1st overall in a draft of all players in NFL history. And so would most of the GMs in the league.
@6r0ck19
@6r0ck19 Жыл бұрын
Nah not even close. He’s very good but will never come close to Brady
@jonathanpech5638
@jonathanpech5638 Жыл бұрын
I love Patrick Mahomes and I wish as a giants fan we had him as our qb but we don’t…but I agree with Shannon I have always said since his first season as a starter that he’s gonna be so special and prolly be close to being the best qb OAT. I still think btw.
@jonathanpech5638
@jonathanpech5638 Жыл бұрын
It’s a stretch for him to be better than Brady if all time but if he plays for 20+ seasons I think he has a shot*
@luchalerae7687
@luchalerae7687 Жыл бұрын
Trevor Lawrence will be better
@The_Bigot
@The_Bigot Жыл бұрын
Mahommes will suffer an injury that will ultimately ruin his career.
@iunnor
@iunnor Жыл бұрын
Brady is so far removed from anything realistically possible from anyone else that any comparison must be a joke.
@yaboisoe178
@yaboisoe178 Жыл бұрын
Its not when pat MAHOMEBOY already better 🤷🏽‍♂️
@Imulletman12
@Imulletman12 Жыл бұрын
4 straight AFC Championship games, 2 Super Bowl appearances, 1 Super Bowl championship, Super Bowl MVP, League MVP, First Team All-Pro, Second Team All-Pro and 4 Pro Bowls in his first 4 years as a starter? I’m a Bucs fan and a Brady fan too, but you’re out of your mind if you think that a Mahomes/Brady comparison is a joke. Mahomes WILL be better than Brady and there’s not even an argument to be had.
@SRx01854
@SRx01854 Жыл бұрын
@@Imulletman12 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@adamboussetta3443
@adamboussetta3443 Жыл бұрын
@@Imulletman12 Hahahhaha no win 7-8 we will talk
@adamboussetta3443
@adamboussetta3443 Жыл бұрын
@@yaboisoe178 bro my grand mother better but he has 7 rings my grandmother doesn’t
@barrett4621
@barrett4621 Жыл бұрын
How come the vid's arent uploaded to 1080p? Wanna see sharpes beautiful smile even clearer
@slimypickle19
@slimypickle19 Жыл бұрын
Skips defense of Brady is hilarious. Literally Mahomes only knock on his playoff resume is that dud in the 2nd half against the Bengals last year. Brady in his first 4 years had a top 10 defense in nfl history that could bail him out of anything. Put Brady behind that half depleted chiefs o line in the sb. Or how about his defense line up offsides and cost him a title game? Mahomes has had a lot less to work with than Brady at equal points in their careers
@gofanman8455
@gofanman8455 Жыл бұрын
No. He'd be lucky if he's counted among Brees and Rodgers
@abc_12333
@abc_12333 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes has ALREADY passed them by going to 2 Superbowls.
@coachmaupin201
@coachmaupin201 Жыл бұрын
Brady 7 rings Mahomes 1 ring….. the gap is too long
@alwaysbam
@alwaysbam Жыл бұрын
But 15 more years if he keeps winning
@coachmaupin201
@coachmaupin201 Жыл бұрын
@@alwaysbam yeah yeah good luck to him ….
@alwaysbam
@alwaysbam Жыл бұрын
@@coachmaupin201 I think if he has incredible years and stats and wins like 4 more to get to 5. Ppl will at least debate it
@coachmaupin201
@coachmaupin201 Жыл бұрын
@@alwaysbam probably….
@kenchan376
@kenchan376 Жыл бұрын
Not impossible, but it will be very difficult. Mahomes needs to be able to stay healthy for another 15 years probably.
@andrehill7033
@andrehill7033 Жыл бұрын
It's been over. The only chance Mahomes had to catch him is if he won back to back by stopping Brady from getting 7 then the score is 2 to 6 with plenty of yrs for Mahomes to get close enough to 6 rings. That's a 6 ring gap now vs possibly 4 especially with the elevated talent at the QB position in the AFC. That gauntlet plus wear and tear each yr, I don't think Mahomes will get close enough in rings.
@Dylanjrvs
@Dylanjrvs Жыл бұрын
People never talk about how both of mahomes super bowl appearances were the worst of all time for a winning qb and losing qb. He’s probably gonna be the next Aaron rodgers. A great one ring wonder.
@CJCrespo31
@CJCrespo31 Жыл бұрын
Did skip just forget how many passes mahomes receivers dropped in that super bowl?
@alexjerez3364
@alexjerez3364 Жыл бұрын
So skip is saying that mahomes is overrated because he is an offensive system that maximizes his talent and athleticism to their fullest, that’s crazy
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 Жыл бұрын
"Early in Brady career, he could play bad and they would still when because their defense was outstanding, Mahomes does not play great they're not winning"
@SeanFication
@SeanFication Жыл бұрын
That's a crock. Mahomes joined a fantastic Chiefs team which was winning before he even got there. Brady has joined poor teams and made them great.
@joshuavaughn7209
@joshuavaughn7209 Жыл бұрын
This guy lol. Mahomes had kelce and hill and Smith had them in the playoffs prior.
@TheSHAD0W93
@TheSHAD0W93 Жыл бұрын
That’s not true considering he was playing bad last year and they were winning.
@wavenstein
@wavenstein Жыл бұрын
@@SeanFication a "fantastic" team that hadn't won a playoff game in a qtr century? That's a lot of things but fantastic is not among them
@GODISGREAT_12
@GODISGREAT_12 Жыл бұрын
Same with Aaron
@Jussttiiinnn
@Jussttiiinnn Жыл бұрын
I don’t think skip really be watching the games 🤣🤣🤣
@MrKoopa757
@MrKoopa757 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes imo is a tier ahead of all of the Qbs his age just cause hes already got a ring and a couple Sb appearances. Josh Allen is the closest to him but hasnt gotten to the Sb yet.
@midwestguy1983
@midwestguy1983 Жыл бұрын
It's why it's they are Brady v Manning 2.0. It's why we will see them playing repeatedly in January. Sometime Burrow will breakthrough and sometimes Lamar Jackson will, and eventually so will Mac Jones but the AFC is going to be dominated by the Chiefs and Bills for the better part of the next decade.
@josiahkahkonen2307
@josiahkahkonen2307 Жыл бұрын
No, he won’t. Obviously extremely talented. But he’s not gonna be as good as Brady, or ever be as accomplished. There is only ONE. Just like in the NBA. MJ is the GOAT, he is the one and only. Same applies to Brady in the NFL. He is the one and only.
@MattnCam0408
@MattnCam0408 Жыл бұрын
r u dumb? there isn't just one hahahahaha brady is in a pile of qbs for comparability
@andrewwilliams3389
@andrewwilliams3389 Жыл бұрын
Shannon doesn’t truly feel like Mahomes can catch Brady it’s jus that he hopes one day he can say somebody other than Brady is the goat because he hates Brady so much.. that’s what it’s really about I mean let’s be real🤷‍♂️
@KevonDaDon
@KevonDaDon Жыл бұрын
I believe he think he can his potential is so absurdly high it’s kinda underestimating if you don’t think he can reach it
@user-ne8dj8qc4d
@user-ne8dj8qc4d Жыл бұрын
Quit comparing Mahomes to Brady. It’s stupid and unfair to both
@Quvan
@Quvan Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Drip hasn't leaped from his chair, attacking Shannon for blaspheming Brady every time his name is brought up.
@juancarlosreyes5138
@juancarlosreyes5138 Жыл бұрын
I think the greatest hurdle for Mahomes passing Brady as the GOAT is that in the postseason Brady directly won 2 Super Bowls at the expense of Mahomes 2018 Brady beat Mahomes in the AFC title game to win chip number 6, the. 2020 Brady won chip number 7 while playing against Mahomes in the Super Bowl. Their are more details that adds context but ultimately I think time will boil it down to Brady beat Mahomes twice on route to winning 2 Super Bowls.
@tristans_
@tristans_ Жыл бұрын
These are terrible arguments for comparing qb’s. Qb’s don’t directly play against each other they play the defenses. Brady defenses >>> Mahomes defenses.
@eastgate6134
@eastgate6134 Жыл бұрын
Brady never beat mahomes. They not on the field at the sametime
@abc_12333
@abc_12333 Жыл бұрын
@@tristans_ EXACTLY! The media keeps pushing QB vs QB and it is very annoying. Now they got fans believing that QBs go head-to-head. Ridiculous.
@cocodacoco3065
@cocodacoco3065 Жыл бұрын
It’s a little irritating how it took Tom Brady over 10 years of sustained excellence before everybody put him above Montana and the rest of the historic superstars as the greatest quarterback. And it’s like the moment they did, every young guy with a good year or two is the new GOAT. Tom Brady won the Super Bowl three times in his first four years, and nobody called him the GOAT, they just said the Patriots were a great team.
@jeffrey8893
@jeffrey8893 Жыл бұрын
Stop. Mahomes is literally the only person compared to Brady because of his early success, nobody else. Stop pretending as if Brady won those Super Bowls the same way he won the last few. At the beginning, he was not the driving force of those championship teams.
@TheBlackestKnight21
@TheBlackestKnight21 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffrey8893 facts , brady didn’t win no MVP and throwing 50 Tds in his 2ne year
@abc_12333
@abc_12333 Жыл бұрын
That's because Brady ONLY got 3 offensive TDs in the entire playoffs the year he won his first SB. The defense was stacked. Mahomes NEVER had a good defense.
@dorian_vlogs
@dorian_vlogs Жыл бұрын
The simplest way to put this segment is this, Skip always loves Brady, Shannon always hates Brady. End of story.
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